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Title: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Megs79 on May 15, 2007, 11:35:58 AM
Now that the networks are announcing what's cancelled, what's coming back, and what's new, what are you most looking forward to?

I'm glad that "rules of engagement" will be back on CBS.

I'm interested in ABC's "women's murder club," based on the James Patterson series (1st to Die, 2nd Chance, 3rd Degree, 4th of July, The 5th Horseman, and The 6th Target). I've read all but #6.

I'm hoping the Grey's Anatomy spin off will die a quick death, even though I watch Grey's. 
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: clemsonfan on May 15, 2007, 11:50:20 AM
Scrubs coming back! Yay!!!
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: cuddlyevil on May 15, 2007, 11:51:56 AM
I'm hoping the Grey's Anatomy spin off will die a quick death, even though I watch Grey's. 

Amen sista. If the spin-off works, I'll probably stop watching Grey's too--it's not the same without Addyson.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 15, 2007, 11:56:46 AM
The article (http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/05/14/tv.newseason.ap/index.html) that Cuddly posted the other day mentions a Heroes spinoff.  The NBC site doesn't show it on the schedule at all.  I wonder if it's acutally going to happen?

Oh who am I kidding, it sounds like shit on a stick to me.  Getting the origins of the characters on the actual show might be interesting but I'd rather the writers do their own thing instead of writing for characters voted on by viewers.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: kcneon on May 15, 2007, 12:00:30 PM
I wanna give the Grey's spinoff a chance.  I usually like Amy Brenneman and Tim Daly.  But Grey's will really suffer losing Addyson.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Jonathan on May 15, 2007, 12:02:02 PM
It's not so much that there's a Heroes spinoff as it is that pretty much every new NBC show seems derivative of Herpes - sorry, Heroes in some way. Even Chuck was described as "My Name is Earl crossed with Heroes."

Since NBC is going so overboard with the supernatural, I've got no interest in them. Although I'm glad to see that Law & Order is back. And I find it interesting that this year, L&O: Criminal Intent episodes will be airing first on USA, and then on NBC.

(Side note: The "Herpes" thing wasn't intentional, I accidentally hit the p key instead of the o. But I liked the mistake so much I decided to keep it.)
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: kcneon on May 15, 2007, 12:07:23 PM
Wow, ABC's comedies will be hard to beat:

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ABC also gave the go-ahead to "Cavemen," a comedy adapted from the Geico insurance commercials.

 ::)
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Jonathan on May 15, 2007, 12:19:29 PM
I had heard about that being in production, had no idea it'd ever be green-lighted.

ABC's shows, honestly, are the ones that most intrigue me, because some of my favorite actors are going to be in shows that sound interesting:

* Peter Krause in Dirty Sexy Money where he plays a lawyer for a bunch of rich, corrupt relatives.

* Johua Malina in Big Shots where he's one of four corporate execs, the type of people who might need the services of Peter Krause's character. Dylan McDermott is also in this show.

* Jonny Lee Miller and Victor Garber in Eli Stone. Sick Boy plays a lawyer (geez, another lawyer) who is either bat-shit insane, or a prophet. Interesting.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: cuddlyevil on May 15, 2007, 03:22:29 PM
The article (http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/05/14/tv.newseason.ap/index.html) that Cuddly posted the other day mentions a Heroes spinoff.  The NBC site doesn't show it on the schedule at all.  I wonder if it's acutally going to happen?

Oh who am I kidding, it sounds like shit on a stick to me.  Getting the origins of the characters on the actual show might be interesting but I'd rather the writers do their own thing instead of writing for characters voted on by viewers.

That's the thing, if the rumors are true, they won't even be giving you backgrounds of characters on the show. They'll be for new characters and the audience chooses which one would appear in the new season. How lame is that? I think it's something that's in development but not to the point where they'd put it up on the schedule (if they're even going to go through with something like this).

NBC is grabbing at straws.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Jonathan on May 15, 2007, 03:27:02 PM
NBC is going "Hey, we've got something that's a hit! Let's run it into the ground!"

Just like they always do.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 15, 2007, 03:32:23 PM
That's what I was trying to say Cuddles, didn't do a very good job of it though, I see.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: cuddlyevil on May 15, 2007, 03:46:04 PM
Sorry kwyj.

According to entertainment weekly the heroes spin off is in the works *shrug*  (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20038789,00.html)

Is it me or does "Journeyman" kinda sound like quantum leap?
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 15, 2007, 03:53:08 PM
What?  You were expecting originality?

With the newspaper angle I was thinking it sounded a lot like that show where the guy got the paper a day early.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: cuddlyevil on May 15, 2007, 03:57:52 PM
After they announced that they're remaking the bionic woman? Any hope for creativity/originality was lost at that moment.  :-\ It just struck me more than any of the other new stuff (which sounds god awful), do we need another dance competition? 

I'm wondering if they'll air the heroes spin-off while the regular season is on hiatus.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: kcneon on May 16, 2007, 11:55:05 AM
What?  You were expecting originality?

With the newspaper angle I was thinking it sounded a lot like that show where the guy got the paper a day early.

Exactly...on both your comments, Kwyj.

From the article on CBS changes...this made me laugh today:
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"Jericho" started out strong last fall for CBS. However, like "Lost" on ABC and "Heroes" on NBC, many viewers abandoned the show after it went on a long midseason hiatus.

Imagine media execs not 'getting it'.  Folks figured they'd just catch up when the season DVD comes out instead of letting the networks screw with them. 
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 17, 2007, 04:18:14 PM
Well, apparently Jericho has been canceled.  It's not on the schedule and there's some standard stock letter from a CBS VP up on the show's message board.

I guess we'll never know what happens next.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: cuddlyevil on May 17, 2007, 04:36:39 PM
There was a blurb about it getting the axe in one of the articles about cbs' fall schedule too. They laid the blame square at the feet of the hiatus.

Veronica Mars got cut from the CW line-up too.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Jonathan on May 17, 2007, 04:44:25 PM
Yeah, but Veronica Mars had been dead on its feet for about a year now.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 17, 2007, 04:46:14 PM
The message I read from the CBS exec said that they feel a show should hold an audience even with a long break.  Good luck with that.

He also said not to forget about all of the other great CBS programming that will be coming back, like CSI-Miami. 

Oh hells yeah!  CSI-Miami, I've forgotten about Jericho already!
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: cuddlyevil on May 17, 2007, 04:56:30 PM
Yeah, but Veronica Mars had been dead on its feet for about a year now.

Has it? I never really watched it much, then they moved it to the CW and we couldn't watch it even if we wanted to (we don't have cable). It always seemed like it was one of the really popular ones, like gilmore girls. Guess chatty fans don't always add up to ratings
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Jonathan on May 17, 2007, 05:51:36 PM
It always seemed like it was one of the really popular ones, like gilmore girls. Guess chatty fans don't always add up to ratings

Guess what else got cancelled?
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: cuddlyevil on May 18, 2007, 09:18:57 AM
Oh, I know. GG was one of my sister's favorite shows, she has no idea what to watch on Tuesdays now.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Nate on May 18, 2007, 10:53:15 PM
Apparently NBC (which is 4th out of the 5 networks in terms of viewers) has a BIG surprise for their programming this fall which will save them!

Yup, you guessed it...20 1-3 minute commercials for the new Jerry Seinfeld movie! (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/chi-0705140593may15,1,5761358.column?coll=chi-news-col)

This is the only new "comedy," albeit unintentionally, NBC has planned for now.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: va-vacious on May 21, 2007, 03:25:44 PM
Yeah, but Veronica Mars had been dead on its feet for about a year now.

Has it? I never really watched it much, then they moved it to the CW and we couldn't watch it even if we wanted to (we don't have cable). It always seemed like it was one of the really popular ones, like gilmore girls. Guess chatty fans don't always add up to ratings

I'm so disappointed that Veronica Mars was canceled. It was appointment tv for me, and I bought the dvds and everything!  :)  It was alot like Buffy: clever dialogue, interesting stories, and of course, eye candy. It's hard to get ratings when they don't promo your show and then bump you for the Pussycat Dolls for 8 weeks. Bitter. Very bitter!

My sadness is that the producers didn't find out about the cancellation early enough to do a proper series wrap-up, so instead we're left with a cliffhanger. That is what really annoys me! I want to know how it ends.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Jonathan on May 21, 2007, 03:31:42 PM
Same thing with Jericho. From the way they "ended" that, it makes me think that nobody told them cancellation was even a remote possibility. A *lot* of loose ends there.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 21, 2007, 03:49:29 PM
Yeah, not even close to a neat wrap up for Jericho.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Jonathan on May 21, 2007, 06:41:33 PM
I think, after that 400th episode, they can safely put The Simpsons to bed now.

It was, in a word, underwhelming.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Bronzetree on May 22, 2007, 02:16:18 AM
Yeah, not even close to a neat wrap up for Jericho.

Exactly. I'm kinda pissed about that because I figured the show was safe. Had I known, I wouldn't have wasted my time with it.

I'm gonna take a shot in the dark here and say The 4400 isn't coming back either. It's been a looooong time, and I'd imagine even if they come back, they've probably lost the bulk of their audience by now. To be honest, I can't recall how last season ended anyway.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 22, 2007, 08:49:32 AM
I think, after that 400th episode, they can safely put The Simpsons to bed now.

It was, in a word, underwhelming.
We thought that too.  The 399th episode though, the 24 spoof, was highly amusing.

I'm gonna take a shot in the dark here and say The 4400 isn't coming back either. (...) To be honest, I can't recall how last season ended anyway.
I don't remember either, but I remember thinking that last season was pretty stupid.  It usually fires up early-mid May.  I'd be surprised if it was canceled, but not upset.

A little poking around proves that it will return for a fourth season: Clicky (http://www.usanetwork.com/series/the4400/behindthescenes/news/news082206.html).
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Cockney Rebel on May 22, 2007, 08:55:13 AM
The trailer for "Bionic Woman" (shown during "Heroes") made it look about as exciting as piles. The outcome probably similar.

Good to see "America's Got Knobends" is coming back, with the Hoff, Piers and now Shazza  ::)
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: cuddlyevil on May 22, 2007, 09:14:20 AM
I think, after that 400th episode, they can safely put The Simpsons to bed now.

It was, in a word, underwhelming.

I missed most of the episode but that's what my husband said too. He was really disappointed in it, called it "not funny".
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Cockney Rebel on May 29, 2007, 09:15:18 AM
So (according to EW), "Studio 60" averaged 8.5 million viewers, whilst "Friday Night Lights" averaged 6.1 million viewers.

Consequently, NBC (No Bastard Clue) renew......... the show with fewer viewers.

That makes perfect sense and if was an advertiser at NBC I would doubtless see the decision as a good one.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Jonathan on May 29, 2007, 09:54:49 AM
Friday Night Lights is a good show...but then again, so was Studio 60.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 29, 2007, 10:18:46 AM
Anybody see Studio 60 on Thursday?  It was... not good.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Jonathan on May 29, 2007, 10:38:12 AM
It was weird...no Matt or Danny. What's up with that?
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 29, 2007, 10:58:39 AM
I was actually glad to not have their respective, goofy, uninteresting, love lives crammed in my face.  I personally would much prefer the show to be about the show within the show, they just didn't do it well this time.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Bronzetree on May 29, 2007, 01:19:28 PM
I've got it recorded, just haven't watched it yet. No Matt or Danny? Ummmm...
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: dufferton on May 29, 2007, 07:32:20 PM
I am glad How I Met Your Mother is coming back on. I don't know how I feel about the BIG BANG THEORY. too much of a really bad clique to me.

Now just because JERICHO is not on the line up doesn't mean it is over. They could bring it back Mid-season. They do that sometimes but don't tell you just to mess with you. They have a few shows that are listed as "coming back mid-season" but really I think they have more stored up for when one of their new shows, i.e. BIG BANG THEORY, bombs.

So maybe all you JERICHO fans won't have to be too disappointed.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Jonathan on May 29, 2007, 09:39:35 PM
Usually they're pretty up front about what is coming back as a mid-season replacement. They don't really purposely hold back information just to "mess with" viewers. Because that also messes with advertisers, and that's just bad business.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: dufferton on May 29, 2007, 10:29:06 PM
Maybe the mid-season replacements have not been chosen. I can't see only three shows coming back mid-season. But then again what do I know.
And how does it work with new shows that start in the "mid season"? That they have the pilots all ready but are not sure if they want to try them out just yet?
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Jonathan on May 30, 2007, 07:23:37 AM
Some pilots get picked up but are told they will be mid-season replacements because there's no room for them on the schedule at this time. Other MSRs come from shows that haven't been pitched yet, but will be in the fall.

One of the dangers of announcing that a show has been cancelled is that the actors will then go an attach themselves to other projects (because they like to work - funny, that). So you basically make everyone on a show a "free agent" and it's damn near impossible to get them back together.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: dufferton on May 30, 2007, 10:26:42 PM
Some pilots get picked up but are told they will be mid-season replacements because there's no room for them on the schedule at this time. Other MSRs come from shows that haven't been pitched yet, but will be in the fall.

One of the dangers of announcing that a show has been cancelled is that the actors will then go an attach themselves to other projects (because they like to work - funny, that). So you basically make everyone on a show a "free agent" and it's damn near impossible to get them back together.

Yeah geesh. Picky actors. What do they need money for? To eat! HA! I have always said that actors are servers because they get at least one free meal a day!
Which I also know is not true but still. Being a server does give you a more flexible schedule to audition.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: cuddlyevil on June 06, 2007, 10:45:45 AM
CBS reportedly rethinking Jericho's status for next season. (http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/06/06/jericho.cancellation.ap/index.html)
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Kwyjibo on June 06, 2007, 10:59:23 AM
Sweet!
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Jonathan on June 06, 2007, 11:45:42 AM
And salty!

(Assuming they were honey-roasted peanuts, of course. Mmm....honey-roasted peanuts...)
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Butter on June 06, 2007, 11:50:01 AM
And salty!

(Assuming they were honey-roasted peanuts, of course. Mmm....honey-roasted peanuts...)

What is this, stream-of-consciousness posting day?
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Jonathan on June 06, 2007, 01:01:31 PM
No, it's Butter-didn't-click-on-the-link-and-read-the-article Day, apparently.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: cuddlyevil on June 07, 2007, 10:28:43 AM
Cbs likes nuts, Jericho will be brought back. (http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/06/07/jericho.cancellation.ap/index.html)
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Jonathan on June 07, 2007, 01:13:36 PM
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"You got our attention; your emails and collective voice have been heard," Tassler wrote, and seven episodes have been ordered for midseason 2007-08. "In success, there is the potential for more. But, for there to be more `Jericho,' we will need more viewers."

Fans must do their part to rally interest while the network does its job, she said.

Does the "network doing its job" mean not scheduling a three-month-long break, thus completely killing all momentum for the show?

I'd be curious to see if Channel Seven (I think it was Seven?) in Australia will continue to air the episodes, too. Jericho was actually the first show that an American TV network released for overseas networks to air at the exact same time - and because of the date line, episodes actually aired in Australia twelve hours earlier. I'll be sure not to post any spoilers, Kwyj. ;)
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: dufferton on June 07, 2007, 01:57:47 PM
Cbs likes nuts, Jericho will be brought back. (http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/06/07/jericho.cancellation.ap/index.html)

Somehow I knew this would happen. Glad for the folks that like the show. I really couldn't get into it though.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Jonathan on June 07, 2007, 02:33:24 PM
Yep, I'm glad I was wrong, since I do like the show.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Bronzetree on June 07, 2007, 07:22:35 PM
Good news for those of us that dig the show. But they can't just order seven episodes and hope for the best. There needs to be some kind of commitment there for viewership to get back to where it was, or at least at a reasonable enough level to avoid cancellation.

Of course I'll watch, but that's me.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: cuddlyevil on August 13, 2007, 12:16:19 PM
For those who watch Criminal Minds: They just announced that Joe Montangna (sp?) is replacing Mandy Patinkin on the show. Good idea/bad idea?
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Poncho on August 13, 2007, 03:09:18 PM
Nothing can replace when Mandy says "Excuse me your honor... my name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father... prepare to die!"
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Jonathan on August 13, 2007, 07:05:45 PM
It depends on if you want to believe Fat Tony from the Simpsons as an FBI agent or not.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: whigsgeek on August 14, 2007, 10:17:57 AM
The only new show I'm looking forward to this fall (so far) is "Big Bang Theory," which stars Johnny Galecki, who's one of those actors I always tend to like no matter how crappy the show/movie he's in.

(http://www.nndb.com/people/087/000108760/johnny-galecki.jpg)
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on August 14, 2007, 06:50:52 PM
The only new show I'm looking forward to this fall (so far) is "Big Bang Theory," which stars Johnny Galecki, who's one of those actors I always tend to like no matter how crappy the show/movie he's in.
Are you watching My Boys on TBS, then? He's hilarious when guest starring as Trouty. If not, the "Ethics" episode that he is in is available online (http://www.tbs.com/video/0,,113971,00.html).
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: cuddlyevil on August 20, 2007, 12:58:35 PM
 Kristen Bell joins the case of Heroes *spoiler alert* (http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Blog/Todays-News/Kristen-Bell-Heroes/800020672)

There is a potential spoiler in the article, so read at your own risk.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: va-vacious on August 20, 2007, 05:58:21 PM
Yay! Now I can at least get a fix of one of my fave actors from that show. (The other being Jason Dorhing, but I'm really only interested in him as Logan!)
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on September 24, 2007, 10:13:34 PM
I watched The Big Bang Theory tonight and laughed quite a few times. It's a Chuck Lorre (from Dharma & Greg) show, so his end cards are back. Tonight's was a funny story involving Schlomo Tivowitz. I had taped Dharma & Greg from the beginning, so it was a nice symmetry.

Now off to watch Hereos.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: cuddlyevil on September 25, 2007, 11:08:03 AM
I caught the tail end of big bang theory, it looks like it's got potential.

The how i met your mother premiere was great, a perfect set-up for the season. I can't wait for the unit's premiere tonight!
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Butter on September 25, 2007, 06:29:17 PM
I'll give The Big Bang Theory a couple more episodes before I pitch it altogether, but I thought they were trying a little too hard to be "quirky".... or should that be "nerdy"?  A common theme among Chuck Lorre shows, I find.  It wore me out with Two and a Half Men, although I always did like Dharma and Greg.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 26, 2007, 09:21:01 AM
Did anybody watch Reaper on CW?  It got a few laughs from us.  It's kind of like Joan of Arcadia except with the Devil instead of God.  The first one was directed by Kevin Smith which didn't really help or hurt it I don't think.

The lead character, Sam, was also Sam in The Loop which Fox screwed around with for a couple of seasons and finally canceled.  A very funny show that deserved better.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Poncho on September 26, 2007, 09:39:33 AM
Watched my DVR of The Big Bang Theory and I agree... it was just TOO quirky/nerd to maintain any level of consistant funny.  They were really trying too hard.

There's just something jacked up about that Kaley Cuoco, too.  I have never been able to put it in words... but there is just something jacked up about her.  She's just not nearly as attractive as "they" want you to believe she is.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: kcneon on September 26, 2007, 09:53:24 AM
Kwyj,  I caught most of Reaper and was pretty disappointed.  I probably had too high an expectation when I heard Tyler Labine was cast.  Something just felt missing - I'm not sure what.  On the other hand, I thought Chuck was going to be a bomb and I enjoyed the whole ride right down to their music choices. 

Speaking of music choices....how lame were the tracks for Reaper?  ...as long as it mentions 'devil' in the title!   ::)
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Megs79 on September 26, 2007, 02:32:30 PM
Anybody catch Cane?  that looks promising.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Poncho on September 27, 2007, 11:21:17 AM
I watched a DVR of Journeyman last night.

Gaping plot holes that you could drive a Mack truck through in this time travel show.  The presently dead girfriend is hawt.  The wife is pretty nice except for her balloon lips.

Bonus points were noted for having both the wife and the dead girlfriend (back when she was alive) in their bra/panties.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 27, 2007, 03:15:14 PM
We watched Cane, the wife liked it, I hated it.  Whoever said that it was like Dallas meets the Sopranos was pretty much dead on.  Too much Dallas for my tastes though.

How about Dirty, Sexy Money?  Anybody else catch it?  We DVR'd it and watched some of it this morning.  I really like it, but then I really like Peter Krause.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: clemsonfan on September 27, 2007, 03:33:44 PM
The Office and My Name Is Earl premieres are on tonight! One hour episodes each!
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 27, 2007, 04:45:44 PM
30 Rock will be back after Earl and Office go back to 30 minutes, won't it?  I really didn't expect anything out of that show but damn did it turn out to be funny.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: redbobsled on September 28, 2007, 04:27:11 PM
Last night we watched our Tivo-ed Bionic Woman.  It started out really strong with interesting characters, but then quickly devolved into a sort of boring, generic action show. 

I think the turning point from good to bad came in a completely heavy-handed and useless scene that should have been left on the cutting room floor.  If you saw it, you know the one.  The little girl in the car with her mom talking about essentially, girl power.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Jonathan on September 30, 2007, 08:21:57 AM
The big news here is that a lot more shows are going to be aired at the same time as they are in the US. Last year, Jericho was the only one. This year, we're getting House, The Bionic Woman, Prison Break, Heroes, and Life.

Of course, I don't give a shit about Heroes or Prison Break. But I do like House, and I'm curious to see Life because it stars Damian Lewis. I guess I'll have to wait patiently for the rest of the shows.

I've started to get into My Name is Earl now that I'm away from all the rednecks and kinda miss them. Kinda.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Cockney Rebel on September 30, 2007, 11:04:08 AM
Chuck = Pants (lasted 10 minutes before canning it)
Journeyman = Pants (15 minutes)
The Office = Magnificent

Thanks to a free weekend from Showtime we did watch - for the first time - an episode from "Weeds". Fucking excellent. Drugs, full frontal nudity, swearing, sexy sassiness....... why have I never watched this show before???
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: dirk on September 30, 2007, 11:22:37 AM
Chuck has potential.  It wasn't great, but wasn't horrible either.  I'll give it another few eps to see how it goes.

The Big Bang Theory is a hard one to call.  There were a couple points that actually had me laughing out loud (like the response to "I'm a sagitarius.  That probably tells you more than you need to know"), but overall I didn't think it was great.  I have a feeling that it will be a mediocre show with spots of brilliance.

I still haven't gotten around to watching Reaper.

And was I the only one extremely disappointed with the Family Guy premier?  It just wasn't that funny.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Poncho on September 30, 2007, 11:36:54 AM
Watched the DVR of Bionic Woman... I'm on the fence.  Loved the cat fights scenes.  That bad girl Sara is niiice.  The main girl seems engaging and pretty "normal" in her background... which is nice. 

As stated before... some things were a little TWO convenient and typical for an action show.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Jonathan on September 30, 2007, 12:40:40 PM
Watched the DVR of Bionic Woman... I'm on the fence.  Loved the cat fights scenes.  That bad girl Sara is niiice.

Doug can tell you that she was on Battlestar Galactica. I didn't know that until I read an article about the show today.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Poncho on October 01, 2007, 08:48:13 AM
Isn't she a tad young for Battlestar Galactica?  I was a fairly young guy... and she can't be my age.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Bronzetree on October 01, 2007, 09:09:57 AM
You are aware there's a been a new Battlestar Galactica show on Sci-Fi for the last three or four years, though, right?
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: kcneon on October 01, 2007, 09:12:46 AM
yeah, that's what I was getting ready to post....she's from the new version of Battlestar.  Check out IMDB.

Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Butter on October 01, 2007, 10:29:43 AM
How about Dirty, Sexy Money?  Anybody else catch it?  We DVR'd it and watched some of it this morning.  I really like it, but then I really like Peter Krause.

Thought it was good.   Plan on DVR'ing it. 

Ratings for some new shows discussed here:

Monday

Big Bang Theory - Actually beat How I Met Your Mother, but still ranked WAY behind Two and a Half Men.  Has potential for growth, so if the ratings keep up, it will probably fit in well there all season and has multiple season prospects.  Looks like CBS is committed to the Monday night 2 hour sitcom block, so I would imagine they will stick with Mother and Theory all season.

Chuck - Beat the CBS comedy combo on Monday night from 8-9.  Definite potential there as well, as it did especially well with 18-49 year olds, the obvious target.

Journeyman - Finished 3rd of 3 and lost a bunch of lead-in from Heroes.  Will be lucky to last to mid-season.  I smell a Dateline NBC night ahead.

Tuesday

Reaper - Did pretty well for a CW show, so it's success will depend on how many people liked the 1st episode and decide to stick around.

Cane - Finished a close second to Law & Order: Geriatric Division... its ultimate success depends on whether or not the audience really enjoys a bad Dallas clone or if people just stopped in for a quick peek before writing it off.

Wednesday

Back to You - No one's mentioned this but me... but I was interested in a new sitcom with Kelsey Grammer and Patricia Heaton.  And it's got Fred Willard in it too.  But it seems far too standard a premise for people this talented.  You have the young, over his head news director (hello, Murphy Brown)... the cocky, old guy who is a city-wide icon (like Kelsey Grammer decided he wanted to try to play Sam Malone... here's a news flash, that's not you)... and then a really forced plot device from the first episode that seems like it might be pretty painful to watch.  Add in the one-liners that were sometimes painful from the rabble in the newsroom, and you would think that I hated this show.  But the plain out-and-out comfortableness of the show is its charm.  I will give it a couple of more episodes to improve.  The pilots for these types of shows are often too exposition-heavy for their own good.

Ratings-wise, it benefitted from having little competition on its debut night, but slipped quite a bit on its 2nd showing.  Fox has too much money invested in this show for it to be a short-timer, especially between this and its lead-out, 'Til Death (a show that I rather enjoy for the two leads, but also a show that is crashing and burning in the ratings).

Bionic Woman / Private Practice - Doing well, but I don't care.  Not going to watch either.

Dirty, Sexy Money / Life - DSM beat Life pretty soundly in round 1, and nearly beat CSI: Boise on its debut.  Again, these shows success will depend on how many people stick around after week 1.  Life did well with 18-49 demos, but my money's on people's obsession with celebrity and money with DSM.

Thursday

NBC - Their lineup of some of the best sitcoms on TV (Earl, The Office, 30 Rock (this year's surprise Emmy winner for Best Comedy), Scrubs), continues to get its brains beat in by the marquee shows of the week on the other 2 BIG networks.  A night move might be in order, because the initial ratings for Earl and The Office don't look any better than they did last year... when they would continually get drilled by Survivor: East St. Louis, Ugly Betty, CSI: Belize, and Grey's Anatomy.  If they continue to let such quality be virtually unnoticed by 2/3 of the network audience, then they are doing a severe disservice to these shows, and letting the star power of Steve Carell in the prime of his career amount to virtually nothing.

Big Shots - Did anyone even mention this?  It drove ER to third, and all I can say is if it finally gets that dinosaur off the air, all the better.

Friday, Saturday, Sunday

Does anyone even watch TV these nights? 
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Kwyjibo on October 01, 2007, 10:48:34 AM
I think I might actually watch Survivor: East St. Louis.

While I do watch pretty much the entire Thursday night CBS lineup, I hate it for ruining NBCs ratings that night.  If 30 Rock gets cancelled, I'll be pissed.  Andy Barker never stood a chance and damn was it funny.

Meant to watch Big Shots but depended on someone else to DVR it for me, which was a mistake.  Probably would have worked better if I'd told her I was depending on her to DVR it for me.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: kcneon on October 01, 2007, 11:05:19 AM

Big Shots - Did anyone even mention this?  

I had totally forgotten about this one, but I was out on Thursday and didn't see any of the shows.  Although I'm happy to hear it beat ER, I think any new show would.  So how was Big Shots?  I'm curious about the overall writing because I didn't get much of an idea from the previews I saw. 

At the moment Chuck is the only new show that gets my vote. 
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Butter on October 01, 2007, 12:56:01 PM
I had totally forgotten about this one, but I was out on Thursday and didn't see any of the shows.  Although I'm happy to hear it beat ER, I think any new show would.  So how was Big Shots?  I'm curious about the overall writing because I didn't get much of an idea from the previews I saw. 

It got the lowest combined rating on Metacritic of any new fall show.  I avoided it.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Poncho on October 01, 2007, 01:53:01 PM
Yeah... no idea there was even a new Cattlecar Battlerama on...
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: va-vacious on October 01, 2007, 08:49:31 PM

Friday, Saturday, Sunday

Does anyone even watch TV these nights? 

I will be watching Friday Night Lights which starts this week on Friday night. And that is appointment tv for me! (The only show currently on that I have to watch)

I watched Moonlight this weekend online, but it was only ok. Not a good sign that the best part was the 3 minutes Jason Dohring of Veronica Mars was on and that I was rooting for the love interest to get killed off.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Hell Toupee on October 01, 2007, 10:21:06 PM
The best pilot of the season that I've seen thus far debuts for everyone else (without torrent access) this week in "Pushing Daisies".

Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Jonathan on October 02, 2007, 08:29:41 AM
I, for one, can't wait for the debut of CSI: Sandusky.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Butter on October 02, 2007, 11:26:21 AM
Cavemen and Carpoolers also start tonight on ABC.  30 Rock returns Thursday at 8:30.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: whigsgeek on October 02, 2007, 08:29:05 PM
Cavemen and Carpoolers also start tonight on ABC.  30 Rock returns Thursday at 8:30.

I am watching Cavemen and chuckling quite heartily. Please help me.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Hell Toupee on October 02, 2007, 11:37:37 PM
Just a side note... I was thinking of using Tioti (http://www.tioti.com) to catch up on stuff I miss during the year (on channels I don't have) and was wondering if anyone has used it before...?

I wasn't sure if it was a waste of time, or if it was better to just catch streaming episodes from the garbage network sites.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Butter on October 03, 2007, 07:29:48 AM
I am watching Cavemen and chuckling quite heartily. Please help me.

You may need help if you chuckled at that last night.  I thought it was pretty horrible.  I get what they're trying to do... but it didn't work for me.  Substitute "black" for "caveman", and you've got yourself a massive boycott.  On the plus side, Nick Swardson was in it.  And... I thought the Ikea substitute was marginally funny.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Jonathan on October 03, 2007, 07:57:33 AM
Just a side note... I was thinking of using Tioti (http://www.tioti.com) to catch up on stuff I miss during the year (on channels I don't have) and was wondering if anyone has used it before...?

I wasn't sure if it was a waste of time, or if it was better to just catch streaming episodes from the garbage network sites.

Never heard of it, what's it all about?
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: c-lando on October 03, 2007, 08:37:18 AM
Substitute "black" for "caveman", and you've got yourself a massive boycott.
We were saying the same thing!!!!
For some reason, The Greg looooooooooooooves the Geico commercials. But, neither one of us enjoyed the show. Feh. However, we did stick around and watch CARPOOLERS and I liked that more than I thought I would which means enough to see a non-pilot episode.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Kwyjibo on October 03, 2007, 08:48:51 AM
Cavemen was nearly laugh free.  Carpoolers had a few laughs, but only a few.

Enjoyed the second episode of Reaper I'll watch for a while, see what happens with it.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: whigsgeek on October 03, 2007, 09:02:05 AM
Substitute "black" for "caveman", and you've got yourself a massive boycott.

But I thought that was the point of what they were trying to do with the show?  ???
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: vizzah on October 03, 2007, 09:24:04 AM
The best pilot of the season that I've seen thus far debuts for everyone else (without torrent access) this week in "Pushing Daisies".



Funny enough, I was only checking the thread to see if anyone else was anxious for that.  The dude and I have loved the bits they've been showing to promote it, and I haven't seen a bad review yet.  I believe it's tonight @ 8. 
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Bronzetree on October 04, 2007, 12:42:46 PM
I caught Pushing Daisies last night and dug it. Not sure if it's something I'd watch regularly, but if I were home and in the mood to watch TV, this is what I'd turn on.

I missed the first few minutes, though. Did they explain why or how the lead character has the ability to reanimate the dead? And I also missed how he killed the girl's father when they were younger.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: vizzah on October 04, 2007, 12:46:21 PM
My husband wouldn't stfu during the first few minutes, so i saw her dad die, but i'm not sure how it was Ned's fault.  You probably aldo missed the part where he not only brought his dog back to life (who he still has, but can't pet) - but also that he saved his mother's life when a blood vessel burst in her brain, then she died again when she kissed him goodnight that same day. 
As for why he has this gift/curse, i believe they said "for no partcular reason." 

that aside, i LURVED it.  it's like watching a tim burton miniseries.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Kwyjibo on October 04, 2007, 01:21:24 PM
His "gift" allows him to revive a dead person but if he allows them to remain alive more than one minute someone else must die in their place.  He said that who dies was a "random proximity thing".

When he reanimated his mother and left her alive more than one minute Chuck's father was the one to die in her place.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: dirk on October 04, 2007, 01:43:21 PM
Just a side note... I was thinking of using Tioti (http://www.tioti.com) to catch up on stuff I miss during the year (on channels I don't have) and was wondering if anyone has used it before...?

I wasn't sure if it was a waste of time, or if it was better to just catch streaming episodes from the garbage network sites.
I just checked out the site, and it seems like a waste.  It looks like you pay for it, and then they give you access to download the shows via Bittorrent.  My guess is these are torrents from other sites and they are just bilking money for being a standard torrent search site.  If you are looking for recent shows, just hit up Mininova.org or someplace like that and download it for free from there (via BitTorrent).

On a related topic, anyone know of any good movie/tv torrent sites?  I recently built a media PC to watch stuff I download on my tv, so now I'm looking to download more stuff.  I can't seem to find any really good sites for TV/movie, but I know they are out there.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Bronzetree on October 04, 2007, 04:14:38 PM
I caught the part about the dog, but missed the rest.

So, if someone else has to die if he reanimates someone and leaves them alive more than a minute, who died in Chuck's place?
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Kwyjibo on October 04, 2007, 04:48:19 PM
I caught the part about the dog, but missed the rest.

So, if someone else has to die if he reanimates someone and leaves them alive more than a minute, who died in Chuck's place?
The guy that ran the funeral parlor.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Bronzetree on October 05, 2007, 10:04:32 AM
Huh. I missed that. Ah, well.

I have to agree it reminded me a bit of a Tim Burton movie. Must be the wacky characters, narration, and music.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: c-lando on October 05, 2007, 02:07:39 PM
Bring on The Next Iron Chef!!!! WOOHOO!
Yay for a great first 30 ROCK to kick off the season. LOVE!
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: vizzah on October 05, 2007, 03:28:19 PM
Huh. I missed that. Ah, well.

I have to agree it reminded me a bit of a Tim Burton movie. Must be the wacky characters, narration, and music.

...and the imagery and use of color.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: whigsgeek on October 06, 2007, 06:44:01 PM
Quote from: ABCNews.com
Strike Fears Rise As TV Writer Talks Lag
No Progress Reported in Talks Between Hollywood Writers, TV Studios; Strike Is Possible

Talks between Hollywood writers and studios abruptly broke off for the weekend, dimming hopes of averting a strike that could cripple the television industry.

The Writers Guild of America has been in talks since July with studios represented by the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers. Negotiations lasted only about an hour on Friday and were not scheduled to resume until Tuesday.

In statements Friday, each side accused the other of intransigence and expressed frustration at the sluggish pace of negotiations.

The writers' contract expires Oct. 31. Studios and TV networks have accelerated filming of shows and movies and begun stockpiling scripts in case of a strike. The last strike in 1988 lasted 22 weeks, and losses to the industry were put at $500 million.

The sticking points include a proposal to delay paying residuals on movies and TV shows until producers have recouped their costs, guild negotiators said.

The guild also is proposing doubling payments on profits made from DVD sales and providing union pay and benefits to writers working in reality television and on basic cable shows.

The two sides also remain far apart when it comes to setting pay for reality TV shows, and for work distributed online and to portable devices such as cell phones.

The studios say they need time to determine which models of digital distribution are likely to be profitable.

"We have had six across-the-table sessions and have been met with only silence and stonewalling," said J. Nicholas Counter III, president of the motion picture alliance.

"The WGA leadership is hidebound to strike. We are farther apart today than when we started, and the only outcome we see is a disaster," he said.

The writers decried the plan for residual payments.

"Our members will not stand for that," the guild said. "The entertainment industry is successful and growing like never before. Writers, whose creativity is at the heart of that success and growth, are committed to sharing in it."
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Cockney Rebel on October 06, 2007, 08:57:36 PM
I caught Pushing Daisies last night and dug it

Anna fucking Friel.

Its.Anna.fucking.Friel

Talk about a prior knob fest. She was in long-running UK soap "Brookside" and was something of a fantasy figure for many 'people in my country', featuring as she did in the first ever lesbian kiss on British telly.

Sadly, lipo/botox has taken away her natural beauty, but its still Anna Friel.

Fuck me.

As for the show, I quite enjoyed it. Reminded me as much of Wes Anderson stuff as Tim Burton. I don't think MK dug it too much (calling it too quirky for it's own good - a fair comment) so it might just have to be a personal pleasure.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Bronzetree on October 07, 2007, 02:08:36 AM
I've had zero exposure to Ann Friel prior, but I'm totally crushing on her.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Poncho on October 08, 2007, 08:00:30 AM
I finally watched Pushing Daisies last night... and saw the Burton-esque and liked it.  I don't know that the rest of the show held up for me.  I don't know Anna Friel, but I was aware of the Brit-crush on her via friends.  When I saw her... I was like "Um? This is the woman that everyone went nuts for????"

Maybe it will get better for me?
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: c-lando on October 08, 2007, 08:57:51 AM
Is anyone else watching LIFE? I caught two episodes on USA this weekend and I liked it a lot.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Bronzetree on October 08, 2007, 09:07:40 AM
I think it's her...approachability? I dunno. She's not drop dead gorgeous or anything. She just seems like a cool chick. Hell, for all I know, I'm crushing on her character and not the real Anna Friel.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: va-vacious on October 08, 2007, 02:02:19 PM
I liked Pushing Daisies alot more than I thought I would. Very cute, with that Tim Burton-esque feel.  I watched Moonlight again, and it still sucks.

 The Friday Night Lights premier was Friday. It's all crazy and out-of-whack, but I think they are setting up some big stories for the season. The murder storyline has me appalled, and I hope it goes away quickly, and not enough Tim Riggins. I don't think it has jumped the shark, but it is a season long drama, so I expect the story to be unfolding over several weeks, not commercial breaks.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: cuddlyevil on October 08, 2007, 03:33:20 PM
Moonlight's gonna be gone by Thanksgiving, we've been watching it just to try and figure out where we've seen the blonde before.

I liked pushing daisies more than I thought I would.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: c-lando on October 08, 2007, 03:38:21 PM
Moonlight's gonna be gone by Thanksgiving, we've been watching it just to try and figure out where we've seen the blonde before.
Do you know this for sure or are you just guessing? I haven't been checking up to see how many new shows are getting the axe.
Also, I keep thinking I've seen the blonde before too. But, I've decided she's just a poor man's Kate Winslet.  :P
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Poncho on October 08, 2007, 03:45:31 PM
If you watch Doctor Who (the new series) she played Reinette, Madame Du Pompadour.  Her name is Sophia Myles and she is the RL girlfriend of the current Doctor, David Tennant.  She was in Underworld, as well.

She's pretty hawt too.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Butter on October 09, 2007, 08:41:38 AM
Carpoolers was created and is written by Bruce McCulloch... yes, the Kids in the Hall guy.  Scott Thompson had a cameo in the first episode.

Yet, it sucked.  Bad.  I wouldn't bother giving it another chance if it were anyone else.  But I'll keep DVR'ing it just in case it improves.  Or in case Dave Foley has a cameo or something.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: cuddlyevil on October 09, 2007, 08:44:31 AM
Moonlight's gonna be gone by Thanksgiving, we've been watching it just to try and figure out where we've seen the blonde before.
Do you know this for sure or are you just guessing? I haven't been checking up to see how many new shows are getting the axe.
Also, I keep thinking I've seen the blonde before too. But, I've decided she's just a poor man's Kate Winslet.  :P

I'm just guessing, it kinda looks like they're throwing out the best plotlines early--not a good sign.

Poncho, we thought she was the girl in underworld but we were too lazy to pull out the dvd and check.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: kcneon on October 09, 2007, 09:43:24 AM
Carpoolers was created and is written by Bruce McCulloch... yes, the Kids in the Hall guy.  Scott Thompson had a cameo in the first episode.

Yet, it sucked.  Bad.  I wouldn't bother giving it another chance if it were anyone else.  But I'll keep DVR'ing it just in case it improves.  Or in case Dave Foley has a cameo or something.

Well, that's truly a bummer.  But there is a big difference between a funny sketch and a full-blown show.  Man, I miss KITH!
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: rva on October 10, 2007, 11:45:56 AM
I saw Cavemen and Carpoolers last night.

To my surprise, Cavemen was actually not as horrible as I though it would be... but it was still pretty horrible.  I get the feeling there may be some good writers on the show, but they have nothing to work with because the premise is so stupid.  The stuff that was sort of funny would have worked in any sitcom.  Everything that relied the cavemen gimmick sucked.

To my surprise, Carpoolers actually managed to suck even worse than I thought.  Man, that show has nothing.  Terrible actors, terrible plot, terrible jokes.  Painfully bad.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: vizzah on October 10, 2007, 01:01:23 PM
My husband thinks Cavement is hilarious, so last night, I either had to watch it or....well, nothing.  We have a small house so my options are limited.  It was crap, no matter how funny he kept insisting it was. 
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: va-vacious on October 10, 2007, 10:59:04 PM
One other Moonlight thing- in the 1st ep. the murder victim was a student at "Hearst College". I think we now know what happened to Veronica Mars: she was investigating a murder in LA, and became a victim herself, and in his grief Logan became a vampire... or maybe he was one all along... :)

 
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: c-lando on October 11, 2007, 08:44:03 AM
...was a student at "Hearst College". I think we now know what happened to Veronica Mars: she was investigating a murder in LA, and became a victim herself, and in his grief Logan became a vampire... or maybe he was one all along... :)
Ha! I caught the Hearst College thing and laughed as well. But, I didn't take it to your fan-fiction level. I LIKES IT!
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Cockney Rebel on November 05, 2007, 03:48:28 PM
I love, I mean fucking LOVE "Pushing Daisies" now it's got into it's stride.

Which means it's a sure fire ABC cancellation come the end of the current run
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: cuddlyevil on November 05, 2007, 03:50:29 PM
It's gotta survive the writers strike first CR.
Title: Re: 2007 Fall Season
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 05, 2007, 03:52:31 PM
I wanted to hate Pushing Daisies, but I must confess that I'm really enjoying it.

I feel bad for Olive, the Piemaker is kind of a dick to her.