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Title: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on September 26, 2007, 08:04:15 PM
Seedy Seeds-- The Little Patton.  So catchy....  but so stupid.... but so catchy....  but so stupid.... but so catchy....
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on September 27, 2007, 01:08:59 PM
It is probably a bad idea to watch old episodes of 120 Minutes when you are in a really grumpy mood and there is any chance of the following video/song coming on:

UZeMVw_K5FU
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: bluebastard on September 27, 2007, 01:48:49 PM
Where can you watch old 120 Minutes episodes? Or am I asking a dumb question because you're sitting on a pile of taped episodes?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on September 27, 2007, 01:55:28 PM
VH1 Classic is rebroadcasting them, although I suspect that it is actually just the Alternative using the old MTV graphics/theme.  Unfortunately, none of the old VJs.

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: whigsgeek on September 27, 2007, 01:59:04 PM
It is probably a bad idea to watch old episodes of 120 Minutes when you are in a really grumpy mood and there is any chance of the following video/song coming on:

UZeMVw_K5FU

Not a Fixx fan, I take it?  :)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on September 27, 2007, 02:48:04 PM
It is probably a bad idea to watch old episodes of 120 Minutes when you are in a really grumpy mood and there is any chance of the following video/song coming on:

*some Fixx video I can't identify because my sound's not on*

Have you been following my "now playing" box today, FG?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on September 27, 2007, 03:55:56 PM
Quote from: rva
Seedy Seeds-- The Little Patton.  So catchy....  but so stupid.... but so catchy....  but so stupid.... but so catchy....
I am totally with you. So fun, so annoying, so fun, so annoying.

Sadly, the other stuff of theirs that I've heard has done absolutely nothing to encourage me.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: kcneon on September 27, 2007, 05:20:09 PM
From the breakroom (we're on the 6th floor) I saw a single red balloon floating along between our building and the local school.  Made me think of Nina and her 99 luft balloons which of course, I'll be humming all the way home tonight.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on September 28, 2007, 12:04:51 AM
Sleater-Kinney was better on album than live, but they still were the best female rock band of the last fifteen years.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on September 28, 2007, 07:24:36 AM
VH1 Classic is rebroadcasting them, although I suspect that it is actually just the Alternative using the old MTV graphics/theme.  Unfortunately, none of the old VJs.

I thought they were just broadcasting the show The Alternative using the "cachier" name of 120 Minutes to try and draw in the sad old bastard crowd, not that it was actual re-airs of old videos in old shows in some kind of orderly fashion.

That video sure does suck.  Nice that the video tagger couldn't even get the fucking name of the song right too.  You'll just have to watch it to see what I mean.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on October 01, 2007, 02:24:15 PM
Radiohead virtually giving away its new album online, legally. (http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/01/radiohead-album-price-tag-its-up-to-you/index.html?ex=1=348977600&en=3fcc31047e8b6255&ei=5088%20&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss)

I'm sure people have seen this by now, any thoughts?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on October 01, 2007, 04:47:42 PM
MPNiDFbseSM

Damn if this doesn't take on a whole new meaning 30 or so years after release
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on October 01, 2007, 09:05:57 PM
Radiohead doing that could change the Industry for good.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on October 01, 2007, 09:28:17 PM
meh.  Some people might pay up once just for the novelty, but it's not going to change anything.  Radiohead is one of the few bands that can do this and possibly still make money, or not care if they don't. 

Offer a group of people something for 2 cents, and sooner or later that's how much they will pay for it.  Unless they can get it for free.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on October 02, 2007, 02:13:44 AM
I realize I've really sold Brian Jonestown Massacre short.  I always thought they were kind of odd, and DiG! didn't help.  Now I kinda see what they were talking about.  13 Tales is a really fantastic pop album, but BJM is the better band overall.  By a lot.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jonathan on October 02, 2007, 08:18:16 AM
I've never really give BJM a chance because Anton Newcombe comes off as a bigger prick than Courtney Taylor, and that's actually kinda hard to do, when you think about it. Perhaps I'll give them that chance based upon your recommendation.

More than likely, though, I'll forget about this whole conversation within 15 minutes.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on October 02, 2007, 10:44:12 AM
You can legally download all their albums for free at  http://www.brianjonestownmassacre.com/mp3.html
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on October 02, 2007, 02:52:23 PM
Who put the bop in the bop-she-bop-she-bop?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on October 03, 2007, 12:39:28 AM
meh.  Some people might pay up once just for the novelty, but it's not going to change anything.  Radiohead is one of the few bands that can do this and possibly still make money, or not care if they don't.

I think you're being kinda shortsighted.  If Radiohead is successful, how many bands will choose to re-up with a label when their contract is over when they can make four or five times the money themselves?  Granted, very few bands remain popular over the life of a major label record contract, but this could have serious implications if it works for Radiohead (and if they release their sales figures).
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on October 03, 2007, 03:34:47 PM
Playing "spot the electronica/hip hop samples" while listening to Isaac Hayes's "Hot Buttered Soul" provided a bit of entertainment for Mrs. Foolsgold and me while we made scones last night.

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: MissKitty on October 03, 2007, 03:37:21 PM
Mmmmmm....hot buttered scones.....
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on October 05, 2007, 09:47:12 AM
So sorry 'Grillz' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CmaYW6H3Aw), 'Back Then' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4zWEVdS8eY)and 'My Humps' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvojmbodxLI), you've been replaced.


vum3qgoh0x4
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: whigsgeek on October 05, 2007, 10:28:37 AM
Popping in the new Springsteen disc, hearing the sound of Roy Bittan's piano chords like the voice of a friend you haven't seen in 20 years ... and all is right with the world.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on October 05, 2007, 11:51:28 AM
Every time I hear "Tropical Ice-land" I get to thinking Fiery Furnaces aren't so bad.  That song is kinda fun.

... and then I hear a different Fiery Furnaces song and I'm reminded again how horribly they suck.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on October 09, 2007, 12:17:59 AM
The Radiohead .mp3s will be encoded at 160kbps to keep them off torrent sites like oink, which have a minimum bitrate for sharing.

Now the download only deal isn't looking too good if you paid more than $5.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on October 09, 2007, 01:01:06 AM
So sorry 'Grillz' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CmaYW6H3Aw), 'Back Then' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4zWEVdS8eY)and 'My Humps' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvojmbodxLI), you've been replaced.


vum3qgoh0x4

I DJed two high school dances this past weekend, and this was the number one most requested song by every single freaking teenager. It's on a level almost as bad as Detroit Grand Pubahs' Sandwiches, though. I absolutely hate this song. Ugh.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on October 09, 2007, 01:02:25 AM
The Radiohead .mp3s will be encoded at 160kbps to keep them off torrent sites like oink, which have a minimum bitrate for sharing.

Now the download only deal isn't looking too good if you paid more than $5.

There are programs out there that'll "rip" the original file into a higher bit rate...
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: vizzah on October 09, 2007, 08:47:16 AM

I DJed two high school dances this past weekend, and this was the number one most requested song by every single freaking teenager. It's on a level almost as bad as Detroit Grand Pubahs' Sandwiches, though. I absolutely hate this song. Ugh.

I just heard it while I was shopping this weekend.  I was in one of those typical east Dayton closeout stores that have really cute, cheap clothes - but also a very poorly placed boombox tuned into hot-whatever...today's hottest hip-hop and R&B.  The song was SO bad, that I stopped short of finding a cute pair of shoes and just left. 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on October 09, 2007, 03:30:53 PM
There areprograms out there that'll "rip" the original file into a higher bit rate...

Yeah, but those don't improve on the sound quality, really.  Instead of getting an .mp3 directly from the source, you're ripping from a medium quality copy of the source, you know?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on October 09, 2007, 08:48:54 PM
I'm just saying you can fake the bitrate, making sharing a possibility.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: whigsgeek on October 10, 2007, 03:45:24 PM
R.E.M. plans to debut a new song from their upcoming album tonight on "Anderson Cooper 360°" ...

Quote from: CNN.com
The song "Until the Day Is Done" also will appear later this month in "Planet in Peril," a four-hour CNN documentary that looks at environmental crises around the world. [...] This isn't the first time R.E.M. has worked with Cooper. The band premiered its video "Bad Day" on the show in 2002. [...] "Planet in Peril" features CNN anchor Anderson Cooper, chief medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta and "Animal Planet" host and wildlife biologist Jeff Corwin. The two-part documentary was filmed in 13 countries and focuses on the issues of climate change, deforestation, species loss and overpopulation.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on October 10, 2007, 09:42:20 PM
That's true, but oink has pretty draconian rules about transcodes.  I think the album has already been pulled from the site.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: cuddlyevil on October 11, 2007, 01:12:57 PM
I DJed two high school dances this past weekend, and this was the number one most requested song by every single freaking teenager. It's on a level almost as bad as Detroit Grand Pubahs' Sandwiches, though. I absolutely hate this song. Ugh.

Mason High School just banned it from being played at homecoming. (http://www.middletownjournal.com/hp/content/oh/story/news/local/2007/10/11/souljaboyweb.html)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on October 11, 2007, 01:37:13 PM
I hate the song, but that's ridiculous. His lyrics are damn near unintelligible. Leave the kids alone and let them have their stupid song.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on October 11, 2007, 01:49:07 PM
I posted something on the article, not realizing my e-mail address would be visible. I can't wait to get either loads of spam, or hate mail. Or both. I contacted the webmaster and asked them to remove it, but we'll see what happens.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: cuddlyevil on October 11, 2007, 02:03:44 PM
People seem to be agreeing with you Scott, so you may get more props than hate mail. maybe?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on October 11, 2007, 03:17:42 PM
I don't know.  It's a pretty stupid song but people just want to do that little dance number thing that goes with it.  I can kind of dig it.  You know, people are kind of shy about dancing but sometimes its fun.  Especially in HS, it's a way for kids to just dance without worrying about looking dorky or asking a chick or whatever.

I still hate the song, but it's not nearly on the level of My Humps.




Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on October 11, 2007, 07:34:25 PM
Cool, they deleted my comment. I posted another with a dummy account.

It's all over the local news. Wonder if it'll get national exposure.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: va-vacious on October 11, 2007, 10:27:40 PM
The program I teach to 4th graders has a dance component (1850s Virginia Reel) to it. Today's group, when I told them we would be dancing, wanted to know if we were doing souljaboy. I told them no. They kept asking though, and were very disappointed that it was not the kind of dancing people did "back in the day". And this is not the first class that has wanted to show off their souljaboy moves!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on October 11, 2007, 11:08:15 PM
Radiohead has sold 1.2 million copies of In Rainbows so far, earning them somewhere in the range of $9 million.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on October 12, 2007, 01:26:46 AM
I read they sold 1.2 million, but only averaged 1 pound per sale.  That would be roughly $2.4 million.  Of course, it's all just wild guessing at this point.  It also didn't include the $80 box sets, which I would imagine pump the earnings up tremendously.

Springsteen sold 335,000 this week, so I guess that would be about $3.4 million.  I'd expect Radiohead to beat the Boss mano a mano were it conventionally released, but I doubt they'd come anywhere near 1.2 million.  Maybe 400 or possibly 500k.  So if they really did move 1.2 million units and make $9 million that would be a phenomenal success.



Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on October 15, 2007, 10:43:55 AM
So I've been listening to the new Cult, and it's like somehow they've managed to take their clownish, cartoon-y hard rock to an even more clownish, cartoon-y level.  But it's still good.  I mean not AS good, but still good.  You want to laugh.  You do laugh.  But you still rock out.

So anyways, I started wondering just how far Duffy and Astbury can take it.  Now I've had this Ian Astbury narrator in my head the whole day.

IA voice: I'm gettin' on the elevatoooor
BD riff: Da-duh-da-duh
IA voice:  That annoying dude is getting oh-on
BD riff:  Da-duh-da-duh
IA voice:  He makes a stupid joke, because he's a tool!  Baby, tool!  Baby, yeah!  Riiiidiiin' the elevatooooor!  C'mon, yeah!  We're riiiiidiiiiin' the elevatoooor!

bridge:  Now he's looking at me like I'm crazy, but I don't care.  No, I don't care.  This chick has on a short skirt, but I'm not gonna look baby no!  Cause I'm...

chorus:  riiiiidiiin' the elevator.  Ride the elevator, ride it RVA, Riiiiide that elevatoooor!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: IPrayForTang on October 17, 2007, 07:15:02 AM
I don't know if this has hit this board, but the new Hives record (which is fucking excellent, especially the second half) has been leaked and is being streamed here... http://3voor12.vpro.nl/luisterpaal/

Just scroll down the right side and click on the cover to get a working player to launch.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: kcneon on October 17, 2007, 08:06:50 AM
I don't know if this has hit this board, but the new Hives record (which is fucking excellent, especially the second half) has been leaked and is being streamed here...
It's so hard to keep track of new releases...thanks for the link, Jeff!


So I've been listening to the new Cult, and it's like somehow they've managed to take their clownish, cartoon-y hard rock to an even more clownish, cartoon-y level.  But it's still good...
You're far too kind, rva.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: IPrayForTang on October 17, 2007, 08:36:07 AM
It's so hard to keep track of new releases...thanks for the link, Jeff!
For real...normally I stay out of the music stuff around here but it's so effing good.  WE CAN PROBABLY ALL AGREE ON GOOD MUSIC FOR ONCE (well, it's at least rare for me to agree) AND YOU SHOULD ALL LISTEN.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on October 17, 2007, 09:57:09 AM
The Hives are always good.  I keep meaning to listen to that, but everytime I go to Luisterpaal I get distracted by Einsturzende Neubauten and The Sugarettes. 

That The Sugarettes album is really good.  It's like Blondie meets Garbage meets Jesus and Mary Chain. 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: IPrayForTang on October 17, 2007, 10:18:50 AM
The Hives are always good.  I keep meaning to listen to that 
Stop getting distracted and listen to Return The Favour.  I'm determined to have other people agree with me that this song is effing amazing.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on October 17, 2007, 10:36:36 AM
May be too 'old school' for many people here, but the new John Fogerty album is a reminder of just how good a tunesmith and rocker he really is.

I'm digging the new Bruce album too. Why the fuck does he ever bother doing albums without the E-Street band?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: IPrayForTang on October 17, 2007, 10:41:34 AM
May be too 'old school' for many people here, but the new John Fogerty album is a reminder of just how good a tunesmith and rocker he really is.

I'm digging the new Bruce album too. Why the fuck does he ever bother doing albums without the E-Street band?
That Bruce album, while enjoyable, feels a lot forced, especially vocally/lyrically.  The last one was so much better.  The new J-Fog album is something that I want to get into but haven't been able to yet.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: kcneon on October 17, 2007, 10:42:16 AM
May be too 'old school' for many people here, but the new John Fogerty album is a reminder of just how good a tunesmith and rocker he really is.
Who cares...good music is good music.  I'll take that recommendation and check it out.  Along those lines I am loving Ian Hunter's latest album, Shrunken Heads. 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on October 17, 2007, 11:08:32 AM
Stop getting distracted and listen to Return The Favour.  I'm determined to have other people agree with me that this song is effing amazing.

I listened to it right after I posted, jackass. ;D

It's pretty impressive.  The first half is kind of The Hives doing what The Hives do really well.  The second half has a lot of stuff that branches out in somewhat unexpected ways.

What's cool about it though, is that it doesn't feel different.  For the first 5 seconds you're like "Huh.  This is different."  But by the end of the song, it just sounds like The Hives.  They've expanded their sound a lot more than I thought possible without ever making it feel like a shift.  It sounds like they've been doing this all along.  For all I know they have been, they just didn't release it.

Return the Favour is pretty amazing.  Although I think You Dress Up for Armageddon might be even better.  It's close.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: IPrayForTang on October 17, 2007, 11:10:43 AM
Yeah, that's one of the 3 or 4 songs that convince me that the album is amazing.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: IPrayForTang on October 17, 2007, 11:11:13 AM
Also, I should stop saying "amazing".
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on October 17, 2007, 11:16:15 AM
May be too 'old school' for many people here, but the new John Fogerty album is a reminder of just how good a tunesmith and rocker he really is.

The only thing I've heard off the new album is "Creedence Song," and it makes me want to punch him in the nuts.  He wrote a CCR-sounding song, explicitly references CCR in the lyrics, calls it "Creedence Song" and puts it on an album called "Revival."

That said, it was classic Fogerty.  You know what you're going to get, but I can't see anyone who likes CCR disliking the album.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: kcneon on October 17, 2007, 11:18:56 AM
Also, I should stop saying "amazing".
Yeah, I think you rubbed off of me as I used that word a couple times in my BRMC concert post on WOXY.  I'm going to blame you anyway!!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: IPrayForTang on October 17, 2007, 11:28:07 AM
Also, I should stop saying "amazing".
Yeah, I think you rubbed off of me as I used that word a couple times in my BRMC concert post on WOXY.  I'm going to blame you anyway!!

HAHA!  I have ruined everything!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: whigsgeek on October 17, 2007, 11:58:36 AM
I'm digging the new Bruce album too. Why the fuck does he ever bother doing albums without the E-Street band?

Amen, brother. The new record is fantastic. IMHO, "Last to Die" is one of the best anti-war songs ever.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on October 17, 2007, 01:04:13 PM
I'm digging the new Bruce, too, though I agree that some of it feels forced. Fave tracks: Your Own Worst Enemy, Girls in Their Summer Clothes, Last to Die.

Got the new Rilo Kiley, too, and while it probably won't be in the listening rotation as often as TEOAT or More Adventurous, I still dig it.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on October 17, 2007, 01:42:24 PM
Jeff, you are amazing.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on October 17, 2007, 01:45:16 PM
May be too 'old school' for many people here, but the new John Fogerty album is a reminder of just how good a tunesmith and rocker he really is.

I'm digging the new Bruce album too. Why the fuck does he ever bother doing albums without the E-Street band?

I love John Fogerty.  I've been meaning to give the new album a listen.

I'm not too sure about the new Springsteen album though.  I listened to it but it didn't really do anything for me.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on October 17, 2007, 02:44:39 PM
Jeff, you are amazing.

Talking about yourself in the third person again, eh?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on October 17, 2007, 03:04:42 PM
So what the hell is going on with Taco Bell's Feed the Beat contest?

Ted Leo says he was pranked, but Strike Anywhere says they applied.  I've met Ted Leo.  He's pretty sincere about his beliefs and all, but Strike Anywhere are nuts.  There must be shenanigans afoot.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on October 17, 2007, 07:49:28 PM
So what the hell is going on with Taco Bell's Feed the Beat contest?

Ted Leo says he was pranked, but Strike Anywhere says they applied.  I've met Ted Leo.  He's pretty sincere about his beliefs and all, but Strike Anywhere are nuts.  There must be shenanigans afoot.

More explanation necessary.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: IPrayForTang on October 17, 2007, 08:02:40 PM
I've got some friends who won one of those prizes, and I'm trying to figure out how best to take advantage of this.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on October 17, 2007, 09:41:47 PM
More explanation necessary.

Taco Bell has a contest where bands apply via email for $500 worth of Taco Bell food.  The concept being who could use the "fourth meal" more than a tired, hungry band on the road.

So most of the bands are just kind of no-name smaller bands, but there's some famous indie bands in there like Enon.  Ted Leo was a winner, only he's a vegan and somewhat anti-corporate.  It's kind of hard to see him wanting Taco Bell fast food.  It turns out someone sent an email under Ted Leo's name.

Strike Anywhere also won.  They are from Richmond, and they're a huge straight-edge, anti-corporation, extreme left-wing anarchist types. So it's weird that they would apply for the Taco Bell prize when it's everything they hate.  I can't see them saying "Hey, we'll just give bean burritos to the homeless and turn a bad thing good" even.  Because even then they'd be supporting consumerism and the corporatization of Mexican culture, etc. etc.  I mean, I disagree with their politics, but they are nice guys and sincere about their views.  Not the kind that would sell out.

But anyway, the band supposedly has affirmed they did apply for the contest.  So I can't imagine what they plan to do with the prize.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on October 18, 2007, 01:08:22 AM
Anarchists gots to eat, yo.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on October 18, 2007, 09:15:04 AM
Anarchists gots to eat, yo.
If only you could still add to the quotes at the upper right.  Well done!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on October 19, 2007, 02:48:29 PM
HOLY CRAP!

I just put two and two together and suddenly realized that I'm going to see 5 shows in the next 8 days. Holy smokes. Duuude, that's.... nuts. I'm going to be poor and exhausted.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on October 25, 2007, 08:45:54 PM
Suede's self-titled debut and the Auteurs "New Wave" are inexorably linked in my mind.  I can not listen to one without immediately wanting to hear the other right after. 

On a sort of similar note, while I was listening to those two albums today, I realized that there aren't many albums that have been released in the last few years who's lyrics I know backwards and forwards.  Not to say that I haven't really enjoyed the muck out of recent releases, but I'm finding that I am not spending as much time with them.  I'm also listening to a wider variety of styles rather than my old "if it ain't pasty Brits..." tendencies of my early 20's.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Hell Toupee on October 25, 2007, 09:41:13 PM
Can we make pasty brit jokes now? I think we know a few.  :laugh:

Anyway, I agree about the whole 'remembering lyrics' thing. I think I've become rather non-plussed about lyrics over time and have started listening more for musical styles instead, with a few exceptions.

As far as this thread goes... The Gorillaz "D Sides" are neither D or sides. Discuss.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on October 29, 2007, 08:52:05 PM
Smoker29 listened to Maze featuring Frankie Beverly last week. 

Strong. 


Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on October 29, 2007, 11:56:55 PM
Thoughts after listening to 1/3 of the Sarah Records singles catalog in order:

Heavenly-- Always good.
Field Mice-- Get a little tiring but for the most part always solid.
Even as We Speak-- A nice surprise. Never knew much about them, but some of their songs are fantastic.  Not when the dude sings, though.

In fact, that's the major lesson I've taken away so far:  Any twee with women singing is pretty awesome.  Twee with a dude?  Sketchy.  Very sketchy.  And as I type this, we transition into Sarah 0051 which is Heavenly.  Delightful. 

I've still got about 150 songs to go, though.  And it's a long, 70 song string of what looks like endless sweetly pining sissy twee until the first Boyracer release.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on October 30, 2007, 02:40:39 PM
I hit puberty the moment I first watched the video for Chris Isaac's "Wiked Game." I delved deeper into puberty with a Billy Idol video that I can't remember the name of... but it had a chick stopping into some dude's apartment, him spilling wine on her shirt, and then she started stripping... or something like that.

Those two videos made me who I am today. And I'm not sure if that's good or bad.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on October 30, 2007, 02:48:11 PM
"Rock the Cradle of Love."  Betsy Lynn George.  Went on to do some horror/soft-porn videos.  Now a gymnastics coach.

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on November 05, 2007, 11:09:07 AM
Banging club tracks (usually found on compilations that contain any variations of the words "Ultimate," "Dance," "Party" or "volume" aren't really known for their lyrical content.  Pretty much all of them rhyme around the phrases "be free" or "it's alright."

Love is the key
See what you see
It's you and me
We've got to see
That it's time to be free.
It's alright. 
Let yourself pee.

There, I am a songwriter (who probably just inadvertently plagiarized the number 3 song in the UK.)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on November 06, 2007, 11:30:18 AM
Winamp's shuffle mode sure does suck.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on November 06, 2007, 11:43:31 AM
Which is why I don't use Winamp anymore. Bleh.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on November 06, 2007, 01:29:32 PM
"Rock the Cradle of Love."  Betsy Lynn George.  Went on to do some horror/soft-porn videos.  Now a gymnastics coach.

I missed this post before, but THANK YOU so much. I think I know what I'm renting next. :)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on November 07, 2007, 04:10:20 PM
Winamp's shuffle mode sure does suck.

Because it always hits the same songs over and over again?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on November 09, 2007, 08:50:50 AM
For years, I thought that, in "One Night In Bangkok," Murray Head said "I get my kicks above the waistline, suction."

Turns out, he actually says "sunshine" not "suction."

I liked suction better.









Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on November 09, 2007, 10:08:55 AM
Winamp's shuffle mode sure does suck.

Because it always hits the same songs over and over again?

Same artists, it seems.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on November 09, 2007, 12:01:37 PM
For years, I thought that, in "One Night In Bangkok," Murray Head said "I get my kicks above the waistline, suction."

Turns out, he actually says "sunshine" not "suction."

I liked suction better.

I thought he said section. Huh. Learn something new every day.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: whigsgeek on November 11, 2007, 06:30:43 PM
For years, I thought that, in "One Night In Bangkok," Murray Head said "I get my kicks above the waistline, suction."

Turns out, he actually says "sunshine" not "suction."

I liked suction better.

I'd like "suction" better if the lyrics were, "I get my kicks below the waistline, suction."
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Marlowe on November 11, 2007, 09:49:01 PM
i used to think that people here and on woxy were being hopeless snobs by being nickelback-hatas, because i found them to be great musicians with a cool & unique sound.

then one day when i was tuned into "all songs considered", i realized i was confusing nickelback with nickel creek. so yeah, nickelback really does suck. but nickel creek are pretty darned good.
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Post by: Cockney Rebel on November 12, 2007, 05:45:56 AM
"Amazing Journey: The Story of the Who" sucked donkey cock.

I have known about this new documentary for year, hearing a while back that Daltrey was actively pursuing archived footage and photos/articles about the band.

I even got excited by the idea and was thrilled when VH1C said they were showing it. We watched it last night.

Yeah, well done Rog. GET all this old footage, including terrific Kit Lambert 'promo' filmreel from back in the day, BUT mash it the fuck up so people can't watch it properly. Intersperse it with chatty bollocks from both Pete and your own fat-head and end it by essentially saying the band are as strong now as they ever were.

The Who ended when Moonie popped his clogs. Spin it anyway you want Mr Daltrey, you fake Mod shitebag, but Keith WAS The Who

"The Kids are Alright" STILL stands as the "Audrey Hepburn" of Who documentaries. This was Courtney Love. Particularlly skanky and smelling of fish.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on November 15, 2007, 12:38:35 PM
So I downloaded some songs from Amazon yesterday.  It's a bit disappointing.

First, you can't just get download the songs.  You have to have the "Amazon .mp3 downloader."  Which I'm like okay, I can see why.  I'm not sure what it does but I can see how they wouldn't want to just give you a secure link and let you DL because that could get hacked.  Of course they do this with software that's a lot more expensive than an .mp3, but whatever.  The app might also save them some bandwidth by dl'ing in pieces or compressing files, I don't know.

So anyway, I install the app.  I download some albums.  Every single album stopped halfway through.  I got no notification of this, so I could have been ripped off half the songs.   Then I have to find the folder where the stuff is going, because it doesn't ask you where you want them or tell you.  It puts them in "My Music" which is at least somewhat logical, but I shouldn't have to look.  And then in the folder I see a temp file.  I open that temp file with the "amazon .mp3 downloader."  Nothing.  I shut down the "Amazon .mp3 downloader" via task manager, because the "exit" option on the tray icon isn't working.  Try it again.  It works.

At least the application didn't set itself up to run on startup, leaving me with a useless background process and system tray icon.  And now that I know where the downloaded files are going, I can move them to my music library myself and monitor the downloads.  Still, a bit of a pain in the ass.

Also, it seems to me like all I really have to do is hang on to those .tmp files it creates that I think have hashes in them.  It would be pretty easy to just save it when you first start your download.  Then I can email that file to anyone and if they have the mp3 downloader installed, they can get it for free.  Unless there's some sneaky shit where that program is sending info. to Amazon about my machine or my Amazon account in which case they should have told me first and is also vulnerable to exploit.

So... not terrible or beyond redemption.  But I don't think I'll be using it again until they get some stuff straightened out.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: kcneon on November 15, 2007, 01:13:50 PM
rva - I guess this is my experience as a UI tester, but the points you mention would be totally unacceptable unless in beta.  Is it still in beta?  And are they keeping users in the loop if it is?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on November 15, 2007, 01:43:50 PM
Nope, not a Beta.  It's version 1.01.  But I dorked around a bit and got it working.  There actually is a UI with options.  It's not just an icon and hidden processes.

When the UI comes up, there's an "options" tab where you can set your download folder, and another option where it will automatically update your WMP library if you use WMP.  It also shows you the songs you've selected for download and tracks the process.  And it's a mini mp3 client so you can listen to stuff as you're downloading.

If you ever used eMusic, it's pretty much exactly like their client (the old one, not the new eRemote thingy).  In fact, it might BE the same client with some different dressing.  And it doesn't install itself to run on start-up, so points for that.

I think some other app on my machine must have been using some resources or preventing the app from writing to the registry or something so it didn't install right.  It took a reboot to get it going.  I have no complaints now about the application itself once it's running.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on November 17, 2007, 04:18:01 PM
This year has been a little poor, musically. I'm grateful for that in a way, because it's helped me re-aquaint myself with many records I haven't heard in quite some time.

Case(s) in point:

Johnny Winter - Second Winter
Pale Saints - The Comforts of Madness
Jeru the Damaja - The Sun Rises in the East
Roxy Music - For Your Pleasure
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2007, 10:29:34 PM
I love the album "John Denver & The Muppets - A Christmas Together." I know it's not post-Thanksgiving yet, but I sent it to a friend and decided I should give it a listen. It's actually better right now than in three weeks because I'm not tired of Christmas music yet. So yeah, bitchin.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: kcneon on November 28, 2007, 12:39:30 PM
Ian Brown cracks me up.  Heaven forbid someone messes up his Christmas dinner!
Quote
from the Manchester Evening News

Right now, he's looking forward to his arena tour, which brings him back home for two dates at Manchester Central. But, as a family man, he's also really looking forward to Christmas.

What's he planning? "My wish list is just to have a happy day with the kids. I'm getting in all the batteries that I need.

"James Brown died last year and it really took the shine right off my Christmas dinner.

"I'm just hoping Mohammed Ali hangs in there this year 'cos I don't want my Christmas dinner ruined again."
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on December 17, 2007, 04:55:30 PM
RVA alert. I've just stumbled upon this myspace page:

http://www.myspace.com/brilliantcorners (http://www.myspace.com/brilliantcorners)

On the media player, click on "Brian Rix", listen, and enjoy. Finding this is my musical highlight of 2007.

[listens to song]It's 1988 all over again, I'm getting served in pubs, I have a wicked bob, Girls fancy me, I'm still brilliant at Rugby and I'm the only kid at school who cares about Dumptruck, Public Enemy and Sarah Records. I'm still shit at maths though.[/listens to song]
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: matt on December 18, 2007, 07:52:47 AM
Man, I totally forgot about them!  I remember shopping at Camelot Music at the mall in the early-mid 90's, when CD's were taking over from cassettes and Rough Trade & other distributors were unloading all of their costly imports into the cut-out bins.  There were a bunch of bands that I never heard of but they were all marked with the same stickers indicating that they were from the same batch of cut-outs, and they were only marked for fiddy cent or a dollar, so I bought them by the bag load.  Somebody Up There was the only one that I ever heard & never really pursued them any further.  I'm curious about Hooked, though.  Sounds like it could be a sleeper.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on December 18, 2007, 12:25:19 PM
Every time I hear the Dandy Warhols now, all I can think about is that scene where the bassist complains about how she always buys the blow for the band and no one ever shares.

Rafe-- I never heard that before.  It's pretty classic-sounding UK stuff from that scene though, isn't it?  I like it.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on January 02, 2008, 01:36:53 PM
I hate that Paramore song so much that I turned on the radio today and was like "Thank God, it's just 'Hey Delilah."

I just don't get it.  I've read articles where they're supposed to be "real" punks and the "Anti-Avril Lavigne" but to me they're exactly Avril Lavigne.  That song is like a perfect mixture of the most annoying things of the most annoying trends in rock over the last ten years.  The whining of emo, the musicianship of punk, the poseur-y post-Alanis faux grrrl rocker, and the  screamy over-emoting from American Idol.

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on January 02, 2008, 08:26:28 PM
I actually dig that tune. I've been playing it for what seems like forever now. Weird to me that it's only really been hitting radio hard within the last month. Yeah, it is kinda Avril, but then I liked Girlfriend, so maybe I'm the wrong person for this convo...
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on January 02, 2008, 10:30:16 PM
She just seems like such angry cunt.  I mean, apparently she got the dude she wanted so there's no reason to be so vindictive.  Okay, you beat out your rival.  I don't care, so please quit yelling at me.

Plus it's like "I got him where I want him?"  How is this any basis for a relationship?  Plus I read an interview with her where she's like "I really don't like to use the Lord's name in vain.  I just felt artistically this song merits it.  I want people to know I am a Christian blahblahblah"

She just sounds like the exact kind of person I hated in high school, and really the kind of person I hate now.  A stupid catfight over a guy?  How is this punk rock?  Punk rock is like "Fuck it, you can have him he's a tool.  Oh, and ANARCHY!!!"

Although I do think it's kind of cool that an independent label like Fueled by Ramen is able to churn out top 40 artists regularly.



Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on January 03, 2008, 11:43:11 PM
Didn't Paramore sign one of those deals with Live Nation or something where the label takes a percentage of ALL their earnings, whether it be touring, album sales, or merch?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on January 04, 2008, 12:37:11 AM
Did they?  I don't know.  Unless Fueled by Ramen sold Live Nation the rights to the back catalog, it would still only apply to future earnings.

meh.  People somehow think switching from a traditional major label to something like Live Nation is going to fix the music industry.  It's like bands finally have the ability to create, advertise, and distribute records all on their own so they can ditch the majors, and people can't wait them to make them (and us) beholden to Ticket Master and Live Nation.  As if those companies don't suck as bad as the major labels.

You give artists only one avenue to generate profit, whoever controls access to that avenue has all the power.  And they're going to use that power to ream the artists and the fans.  It's basic economics, but it's still apparently way too complicated for most people to understand. 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on January 04, 2008, 01:32:48 PM
Pierce/Penetration Rates of Various Popular Songs in an Office Environment:  An Unscientific Study

The Fray-- How to Save a Life:  1 cubicle
James Blunt-- You're Beautiful:  >5 cubicles1
Bad House Music:  3 cubicles
Talk radio, no call-ins:  1 cubicle
Talk radio, call-in shows:  4 cubicles
Fleetwood Mac's Greatest Hits:  <1 cubicle2
Madonna-- Borderline:  2 cubicles
Sara Mclachlan: 2 cubicles
Indigo Girls-- 5 cubicles
Anything with banjos: >5 cubicles1
Comic Opera-- >5 cubicles1,3

1Maximum measurable distance
2Minimum measurable distance
3Includes sound of co-worker singing along
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: trixi on January 04, 2008, 03:10:36 PM
Pierce/Penetration Rates of Various Popular Songs in an Office Environment:  An Unscientific Study

James Blunt-- You're Beautiful:  >5 cubicles1

If that was my environment, there would be 5 fewer coworkers, and lots of media-types in the area instead.  I guess it really works out that I'm completely separated from the rest of my dept.  :)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on January 04, 2008, 04:56:24 PM
I think James Blunt" is now officially cockney rhyming slang.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on January 05, 2008, 02:53:23 PM
Ah-ha, I was right.  Atlantic and Fueled By Ramen have the 360ş deal with Paramore.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/11/arts/music/11leed.html
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on January 10, 2008, 09:08:27 AM
There was a time, not so long ago, when I thought that Timbaland could do no wrong.  Even his weaker efforts were still pretty enjoyable, but, over Christmas, I heard One Republic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_3XRx8EnuI).

Quite possibly the most pointless hip hop/soft rock vocal collaboration since John Mayer guested on Common's "Go."
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: vizzah on January 10, 2008, 10:04:06 AM
There was a time, not so long ago, when I thought that Timbaland could do no wrong.  Even his weaker efforts were still pretty enjoyable, but, over Christmas, I heard One Republic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_3XRx8EnuI).

Quite possibly the most pointless hip hop/soft rock vocal collaboration since John Mayer guested on Common's "Go."

I'm actually quite fond of the song, but it's porobably only for personal reasons. 
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Post by: Bronzetree on January 10, 2008, 11:19:28 AM
I didn't discover until about a week ago that the song is actually by OneRepublic. Apparently, Timbaland heard the original and offered to remix it. When Timbaland calls, you answer the phone. But here's the problem. It's almost identical to the original version. T just added a beat and some "heys" and slapped his name in FRONT of OneRepublic's, which chaps my ass. I originally thought it was a Timbaland song because that's how they announce it on the radio, and that's how it's labeled on the DJ discs I get. Either "Timbland ft. OneRepublic" or "Timbaland presents OneRepublic." The song is theirs, chief. You didn't really do much, and to take credit where it's not due is both pretentious and undeserved.

I'm in the same camp as fools, wherein I'm pretty high on Timbaland's output, but this move really soured me on the guy.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on January 10, 2008, 11:29:40 AM
At least OneRepublic got a little bit of credit.  He just outright stole the beats for that Nelly Furtardo song. 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on January 10, 2008, 10:14:23 PM
My latest purchased albums include Daft Punk, LCD Soundsystem, !!!, and Calvin Harris. 

Hmmmm. Apparently I'm getting a bit into the dance-rock scene?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on January 11, 2008, 03:09:16 AM
Chromeo, man. Check you out some Chromeo. That's the shit right there.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: vizzah on January 11, 2008, 08:39:43 AM
I fucking hate (http://www.bettawreckonize.com/album_reviews/alrev_c.html#chromeoshe) Chromeo. 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on January 11, 2008, 11:04:12 AM
Have you heard the new album yet? I dig it lots more than the one you reviewed.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on January 11, 2008, 11:04:43 AM
Oh, and Justice is badass, too.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on January 11, 2008, 12:17:59 PM
BaeNelsAOGo
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on January 11, 2008, 01:41:04 PM
I hate Justice.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on January 11, 2008, 07:13:30 PM
I like Chromeo. I like Justice. That is all.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on January 11, 2008, 09:40:29 PM
That fucking L'Trimm song gets stuck in my head at least once a month.  Usually, the thought process goes like this:

Reminisce about high school.
I was in high school.
My parents didn't have enough money for Lacoste, so they bought me Le Tigre from Van Leunens or Swallens.
Le Tigre sounds like Tigra.
Fucking cars that go boom.

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on January 24, 2008, 12:21:08 PM
cvgUdrzGNys

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Post by: cuddlyevil on January 28, 2008, 09:33:26 AM
I share this link only because of the banner ad on the right side. Yes folks, NKOTB is getting back together. (http://www.ecanadanow.com/news/entertainment/new-kids-on-the-block-to-reunite-20080128.html)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on February 27, 2008, 02:13:37 PM
Badfinger-- tragically underrated or really, really lame?

I really like them.  When they are crappy-- which admittedly is quite often-- it's still a fun kind of crappy, because it reeks so badly of bad early 70's.  When they are mediocre, it's like hearing a long lost Beatles album.  And when they're good, there's a touch of genius to them.

Never really understood how come Big Star is all cool and hip and shit and Badfinger tends to be forgotten or somewhat of a joke.  They're both really similar bands, and they both kick the shit out of Mott the Hoople and Small Faces.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on February 27, 2008, 03:12:15 PM
.... they kick the shit out of .... the ....Small Faces.

W, I normally admire you, but this time you have taken an argument one comment too far.

The Small Faces were...well... just fucking brilliant.

How very very dare you!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on February 27, 2008, 03:27:23 PM
Yeah, actually I guess you're right.  For whatever reason, I'm not a huge fan of Ogden's Nut Gone Flake even though that's supposed to be their best album.  And definitely not the Ron Wood/Rod Stewart "Faces" stuff even though I like both Rod Stewart (when he's not shamelessly selling out) and Ron Wood.   But their earlier stuff is pretty impressive.

The Raspberries?  Can we say Badfinger kicks the shit out of the Raspberries?

Actually, I kinda like The Raspberries (and Mott the Hoople for that matter).  Also, I kinda dig some of The Wings earlier output as well.  Maybe I just like shitty British pop music.




Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: whigsgeek on February 27, 2008, 03:31:08 PM
Never really understood how come Big Star is all cool and hip and shit and Badfinger tends to be forgotten or somewhat of a joke.

Because nobody ever wrote a song called "Peter Ham."

IMHO, Badfinger is more similar to the Raspberries than to Big Star or Small Faces. Love the song "No Matter What," although I prefer the version from 1996 by Judge Nothing.

I didn't know that both Peter Ham and Tom Evans committed suicide.  :(
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on February 28, 2008, 04:33:15 AM
Can we say Badfinger kicks the shit out of the Raspberries?

I think we can say one squishes the other?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on March 01, 2008, 12:00:48 AM
This British Sea Power album sounds nothing like I expected.  I'm not sure exactly what I was expecting, but it wasn't this.

It's damn good though.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: vizzah on March 03, 2008, 12:30:22 PM
Wussy featured on MSN music Indie Consumer guide. (http://music.msn.com/music/consumerguide?GT1=7702)

Awesome!
 :o
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on March 05, 2008, 08:23:32 AM
I need some more mp3's named "Intro".
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on March 05, 2008, 04:58:02 PM
When Elton John & Bernie Taupin wrote "Sorry seems to be the Hardest Word" do you think it was about them playing Scrabble with Ringo?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: kcneon on March 12, 2008, 10:29:29 PM
I can't deny it, Autograph's "Turn Up The Radio" has to be one of the best songs ever written.   
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: LanneyD on March 12, 2008, 11:14:51 PM
The new Charlatans album reminded me of the first song of their's that I heard, "Forever", so I've been playing that the past few days, remembering exactly why I loved it ten years ago.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Poncho on March 13, 2008, 09:58:19 AM
I'm going to see TMBG tonight...
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on March 14, 2008, 10:20:22 AM
(http://www.theinternetnowinhandybookform.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/af726507e1b86947dc3b00368aacb1eebdd98f7f_m.jpg)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: vizzah on March 14, 2008, 10:37:38 AM
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/vizzah/gtgraph.jpg)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: trixi on March 14, 2008, 10:38:40 AM
I'm going to see TMBG tonight...
Did you have fun?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on March 14, 2008, 12:00:16 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v496/surlyman/hangthedj2.gif)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on March 19, 2008, 02:03:09 PM
Weird.  My itunes shuffle has a thing for acronym/onomatopoeia and number songs today.

Numbers
One More Robot/Sympathy 3000-21 - Flaming Lips
6/8 War - Leftfield
40 - U2
44 - African Underground
Room 26 (Movie Version) - Lalo Schifrin
The 2 Of Us - Suede
1865 (96 Degrees In The Shade) - Third World

acronym/onomatopoeia
La - La Means I Love You - The Delfonics
Um. Um. Um. Um. Um. Um. - Major Lance
I. O. U. - The Replacements
W.F.L. (Think About The Future Mix) - Happy Mondays
A.T.H.F. - Dangerdoom

Also played Mellow Doubt - Teenage Fanclub from the album Four Thousand Seven Hundred And Sixty-Six Seconds.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on March 21, 2008, 03:07:40 PM
Man, the last song in the Zykos Lounge Act (http://woxy.lala.com/blog/2008/03/19/lounge-act-recap-zykos-sxsw-2008/) from the WOXY SXSW sessions is really... just... really brilliant. Apparently it's called "Understanding Fire" but wow, I can listen to that over and over again. 

Major props to that band.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on March 21, 2008, 03:56:32 PM
Post link to site, not direct download.  Yeah, I know we skirt the rules around here from time-to-time.  And I know it's free and legal so what's the diff?  But I think WOXY has said something about how they don't want direct .mp3 links posted to lounge acts. 

No sense in getting anyone in trouble or ruffling any feathers over a free download.  It's good pub for our favorite internet radio station and for the featured indie bands too.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on March 22, 2008, 09:46:18 PM
What do you think Barry Manilow meant by the lyric and all I could taste was love the way we made it from his song "Looks Like We Made It?"

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on March 23, 2008, 04:49:55 PM
Post link to site, not direct download.  Yeah, I know we skirt the rules around here from time-to-time.  And I know it's free and legal so what's the diff?  But I think WOXY has said something about how they don't want direct .mp3 links posted to lounge acts. 

No sense in getting anyone in trouble or ruffling any feathers over a free download.  It's good pub for our favorite internet radio station and for the featured indie bands too.
Oops. Good point and apologies. All fixed up now.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: matt on March 23, 2008, 08:40:23 PM
"I said 'What... What the fuck?  Don't play with my heart...'"

This SXSW set from A Place To Bury Strangers is fucking incredible, too.  Hot Damn.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on March 24, 2008, 04:46:58 PM
One can be exposed to just a little too much Elvis
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on March 24, 2008, 10:40:31 PM
"I said 'What... What the fuck?  Don't play with my heart...'"

This SXSW set from A Place To Bury Strangers is fucking incredible, too.  Hot Damn.

Fuck yeah it is!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on March 25, 2008, 10:41:36 AM
"I said 'What... What the fuck?  Don't play with my heart...'"

This SXSW set from A Place To Bury Strangers is fucking incredible, too.  Hot Damn.
Link???
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on March 25, 2008, 12:49:43 PM
Go to http://woxy.lala.com/austin08/
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on March 25, 2008, 04:31:01 PM
Ah! Now I feel stupid. I didn't see those links on the side there. GrassyAss.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on March 28, 2008, 02:27:43 PM
Ned's Atomic Dustbin has not aged well, but that doesn't mean I am not enjoying listening to Are You Normal in its entirety for the first time in probably 15 years.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Poncho on March 28, 2008, 03:43:05 PM
Material Issue, Ned's and Ass Ponys... Late 93???  Bogarts
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: whigsgeek on March 28, 2008, 04:53:24 PM
Is the Benny Hill theme song called "Yakety Sax?" It's playing right now on airport muzak. Never fails to make me smile.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on March 28, 2008, 04:56:14 PM
Ned's Atomic Dustbin

I've probably told this story before, but when I managed CD and Tape Outlet back in the early 90s, we had one of those dustpans with a long handle on it and one of the employees had cut out a picture of the God Fodder album from some of our POP materials, taped it to the top of the dustpan and scrawled "Ned's Atomic Dustpan" just under it. Still makes me chuckle to this day.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on April 02, 2008, 04:01:47 PM
This new Mariah Carey song sucks.  I mean, it *really* sucks ass.  I say this as someone who really has no problem with Mariah Carey and actually enjoys some of her stuff in small doses.

Yes, I know she's really hot and all you need to do is have her walking around in lingerie to grab a gold record.  But she can sing really well, too so it's not like you have to spend a whole lot of time with the vocoder and shit.

Just put like 2 hours of effort into a track.  That's all it would have taken.



Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on April 02, 2008, 04:14:06 PM
Why the hell do I *always* hear the crappy Club Nouveau version of "Lean On Me?"  It's not like no one's ever heard of Bill Withers or anything.  No you don't be jamming.  You be sucking.  Ass.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on April 02, 2008, 04:46:56 PM
If only time will tell if you stand the test of time, then shouldn't you know you also have to win to win?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on April 02, 2008, 05:04:06 PM
So if I went to Saratoga and my horse won, and then I flew my Lear jet up to Nova Scotia to watch the total eclipse of the sun... I mean, that's some fairly specific shit right there.

So like, how can I be vain?  The song IS about me. That's not me being vain, that's you being totally passive aggressive.  Plus, you got a lot of nerve trying to play me off like I'm some hoity-toity gavotting rich boy when you're the heiress to the world's largest publishing house. 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: whigsgeek on April 02, 2008, 06:09:54 PM
I've turned one of my staff members into a raging pizzicato five fan. I can't believe the Sound of Music album came out 13 years ago! Are they even still together?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on April 10, 2008, 10:44:20 PM
I don't understand why the Great Northern album isn't getting more hype.  Sure it's the kind of LA-mellow, wistful, boy-girl dream pop that isn't for everyone... but it's not like Headlights, Stars, or Beach House are lacking fans and this album is way better than any of any those bands' recent releases.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: whigsgeek on April 15, 2008, 06:34:12 PM
How long has the original "Law & Order" been on the air and I'm just NOW realizing that a chunk of its theme song was lifted directly from Joni Mitchell's "Just Like This Train?"  :-\

Bad whigs, very bad.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on April 16, 2008, 04:09:51 PM
Suzanne Vega explains how she used to write music.


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From the New York Times. (http://measureformeasure.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/15/teen-beat/index.html)

April 15, 2008,  9:27 pm
Teen Beat
By Suzanne Vega

When I was a teenager, I used to have a neat sort of formula for writing songs. It worked over and over, and I got about 60 songs out of it. Now it doesn’t work so well, and I am forced to write in all different ways. But what worked for so long was this:

I would start to write a song sometime late Saturday afternoon. Then, after dinner, when everyone in my family was doing other Saturday-night things, I would go into my room by myself and fool around with the guitar for several hours, usually managing to hammer out some kind of idea. In those days the chords came first, and they depended on what I was singing about. Then the melody, and lastly the lyrics.

Each chord told a piece of a story, and by putting the chords together in a certain way you had a musical narrative. Major chords = happy. Minor chords = sad. Sevenths were sort of sexy and bluesy. Augmented and diminished chords were spooky and spiritual, so I had a lot of those.

Most of the time I didn’t know the names of the chords or what kinds of chords they were; I learned that later when I worked with a band and producers. But in the beginning I worked from a book called ”Pop Songs of the Sixties” that had little pictures of the fretboard and showed where to put your fingers. (Actually, I have never learned to read music and still don’t to this day. I have always depended on the kindness of arrangers! Hahaha.)

So I would string together a few chords that worked with whatever the idea at hand was, or whatever the mood of the day was. And then repeat them. The chords made a safe home for the melody, a bed for the melody to lie down on, sort of. So you had to shape the melody to the chords in some cool way. The idea that a melody could be its own clear idea didn’t really occur to me until much later. Melodies have always been hard for me. What I love is rhythm.

A digression: Recently I was asked by the producer Hal Willner to sing “Cruella de Vil” at a fund-raiser. I was already going to sing “Stay Awake.” (This was a 20th-anniversary concert for the album “Stay Awake: Various Interpretations of Music from Vintage Disney Films.”) I jumped at the chance. I would much rather be Cruella de Vil than Mary Poppins. I showed up to rehearsal and the band began to play. I sang what I remembered of the song. It’s a pretty well known song, and you could probably hum some variation of it yourself if you wanted to.

“Actually, Miss Vega, according to this chart right here, the melody goes like this,” said the guitar player, playing it for me crisply. Part of me wanted to shout, “Who cares? You know what I meant!” But that was not the intention of Mel Leven, who wrote the lyrics and melody, that I just hurl forth some approximation of his notes because I couldn’t remember the beginning.

It occurs to me that a melody is as precise and inviolate as a skeleton. You can vary it a little, but not much, really, if you want it to be recognizable. And that particular melody is a wonderful mix of dangerous unresolved intervals and jazzy light hearted vaudeville. Ultimately, we all decided that if I spoke the beginning, that would work dramatically.

But back to the teenage formula. Usually I would get say 80 percent of it done on Saturday night. I would work until about 1:00 in the morning. Most of the time there was a piece eluding me that I would sleep on. Maybe it was a final lyrical detail. Maybe it was a chord in the bridge that had to go somewhere unexpected. What I found was that by sleeping on it, some dream logic would creep into the song and give it an extra sparkle.

Now it’s different. I don’t have the hours at home that follow one after the other. I can’t imagine working from 8:00 until 1:00 in the morning without some kind of interruption, and when I wake up on Sunday morning I am not running over to the guitar to see what the missing piece was. Usually I am thinking, “Where’s Ruby? What does she have to do today?” (Ruby is my daughter.) Or answering the phone or staring at my husband in his sleep.

What worked for the last album was getting out of the house. I was having so much trouble concentrating at home (”I need to clean the closets!”ť) that I hired an engineer (Britt Meyers) to come to my house to work with me for three hours a day, three times a week. Those first days were agony, and when I sang the opening lines of “Bound” to Britt for the first time, I felt as though something crazy and weird were coming out of my mouth, like snakes. Now it is a real song, and though I still sing it with heartfelt emotion, it feels finished. But any song in the beginning is raw and uncooked and wobbly.

Eventually Britt persuaded me to come down to his studio to work, and we got a lot done. In fact much of the last album was created there at Great City Productions. So this year, when I came off the road, I thought, “Great! Let’s get right back to work!” — and booked myself a bunch of studio time. Which now I have been steadfastly avoiding. I mean, I had jury duty and everything. But we have two days booked at the end of this week. So let’s see what comes slithering out.

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: whigsgeek on April 16, 2008, 04:43:16 PM
Suzanne Vega explains how she used to write music.

This prompted me to listen to "In Liverpool" on my iTunes. It hasn't come through the shuffle rotation in ages. Love that song. Thanks, Dan!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on April 16, 2008, 09:40:56 PM
I don't understand why the Great Northern album isn't getting more hype.  Sure it's the kind of LA-mellow, wistful, boy-girl dream pop that isn't for everyone... but it's not like Headlights, Stars, or Beach House are lacking fans and this album is way better than any of any those bands' recent releases.

It's been out for a while.  Maybe it got lost in the shuffle.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on April 16, 2008, 10:07:59 PM
A redundant album title spotted at the library earlier this evening....

"The Ultimate Chieftains"
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on April 17, 2008, 10:57:48 AM
Why didn't somebody fucking tell me that a new Portishead album is imminent?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on April 17, 2008, 12:10:34 PM
Oh yeah, I meant to post something about that. The whole album will be available a week before its release on Last.FM for free, starting Monday April 21st.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on April 17, 2008, 01:54:24 PM
Attention douchebags.... there's a new Portishead album imminent
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on April 17, 2008, 02:20:21 PM
Attention douchebags.... there's a new Portishead album imminent

Thanks!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on April 17, 2008, 06:26:51 PM
Why didn't somebody fucking tell me that a new Portishead album is imminent?
Well, douchebag...I just listened to this:
http://current.com/items/88899146_portishead_in_portishead

and I have to say I'm definitely buying the disc. Wow.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on April 17, 2008, 08:27:50 PM
Yarrrrrr, matey!!! (http://www.sendspace.com/file/8sdsso)

 ;)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on April 18, 2008, 08:37:46 AM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on April 18, 2008, 02:01:07 PM
Overall, it's pretty good, and totally worth the wait, but there are a few klunkers in there.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on April 25, 2008, 04:00:27 PM
I actually heard Planet Rock by Afrika Bambaataa and a BBC Radio session version of French Disko by Stereolab on the radio this week. At work. I swear both of those aural jewels played a part in preventing me from doing any "Michael-Douglas-in-Falling-Down" type moves. Thank you, BBC 6 Music!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on April 25, 2008, 06:58:14 PM
Wouldn't it be great if there was an tribute band called Johnny Hates Jizz?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on April 28, 2008, 03:07:47 PM
Outlook's spellcheck feature not only recognized that I spelled "Tennille" incorrectly, but offered the correct spelling.

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: cuddlyevil on April 28, 2008, 03:27:00 PM
Does anyone really want or need ace of base ringtones?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: va-vacious on April 28, 2008, 06:00:19 PM
lmnop does!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on April 29, 2008, 12:36:40 PM
Putting "DJ" in front of something doesn't make you cool.  Unless maybe you're DJ Strawberry.

Plus I mean, if you do weddings and proms are you really a DJ?  If that counts as DJ'ing I guess you might as well call yourself an MC while you're at it since you do make a few announcements.

Anyway, the point is DJ <yourfirstname> or DJ <somewordyouthinkiscool> sucks.  I'm talking to you DJ Extreme, DJ Havoc, DJ Angel, and DJ Rawk.  All 10,000 of you.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on April 30, 2008, 11:49:47 AM
Putting "DJ" in front of something doesn't make you cool.  Unless maybe you're DJ Strawberry.

Plus I mean, if you do weddings and proms are you really a DJ?  If that counts as DJ'ing I guess you might as well call yourself an MC while you're at it since you do make a few announcements.

Anyway, the point is DJ <yourfirstname> or DJ <somewordyouthinkiscool> sucks.  I'm talking to you DJ Extreme, DJ Havoc, DJ Angel, and DJ Rawk.  All 10,000 of you.

Um...
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on April 30, 2008, 12:07:26 PM
Don't sweat it, Scott, I'm sure he'd consider "DJ 'Oke" the exception.  ;)


Does anyone really want or need special ringtones?

Fix'd
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on April 30, 2008, 02:12:27 PM
I accept that it's regrettably necessary to have a DJ name nowadays or people won't think you are capable of spinning records.  If you are at a function and you go by "DJ 'Oke" or "DJ Scott" or "DJ Awesome" that is acceptable. 

If you walk up to me in a bar and introduce yourself as "DJ Scott" then we have a problem.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: whigsgeek on April 30, 2008, 02:49:41 PM
If you walk up to me in a bar and introduce yourself as "DJ Scott" then we have a problem.

How about if DJ Conner walked up to you and introduced himself?

(http://b1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00359/10/07/359347001_s.jpg)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on April 30, 2008, 02:54:34 PM
We should start a new trend and switch the "D" to a "B". Let's see how far that one can go. Heh.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on April 30, 2008, 05:20:25 PM
I accept that it's regrettably necessary to have a DJ name nowadays or people won't think you are capable of spinning records.  If you are at a function and you go by "DJ 'Oke" or "DJ Scott" or "DJ Awesome" that is acceptable. 

If you walk up to me in a bar and introduce yourself as "DJ Scott" then we have a problem.

I actually go by DJ Swirl when I'm doing the club thing, though I tend to drop the DJ part of it more often than not.

I don't think I would ever introduce myself to someone in a social situation that way, though. That deserves a cock punch. I feel the same about doctors, but maybe that's just me.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on April 30, 2008, 09:03:29 PM
That doesn't even count.  Swirl is actually kind of clever.  Plus you have the understanding that adding DJ in front of something doesn't inherently turn what is not cool into something cool.  That's the problem here.

Most people would not go up to someone and by like "Hi, I'm Extreme!!!" but somehow people do think it's cool to be like "I'm DJ Extreme!!!"  I don't go up to people and say "I'm RVA, esq" and think it's cooler than going "I'm RVA."  I use my real name, like normal non-asshats do.


Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: whigsgeek on May 01, 2008, 12:24:58 PM
Huh. I had no idea Edwyn Collins suffered a pair of massive strokes three years ago.  :(
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on May 01, 2008, 02:15:02 PM
I use my real name, like normal non-asshats do.

"The Oracle" right?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on May 01, 2008, 10:43:14 PM
DJ Swirl... not horrible.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Poncho on May 02, 2008, 07:46:50 AM
I've narrowed down the list of names that I'm going to change my name to:

1. DJ Conner
2. DJ Whirled Peas
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on May 02, 2008, 09:12:32 AM
Maybe we could start a group.  I've always wanted to be MC Hesher.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: matt on May 06, 2008, 11:31:12 PM
I've narrowed down the list of names that I'm going to change my name to:

1. DJ Conner
2. DJ Whirled Peas

My friend Rich Housh used the name DJ Salinger for a while.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: matt on May 06, 2008, 11:33:59 PM
This requires it's own post...

I put this song on a mix and let a friend at work test drive it for me.  I got an IM from her while she was listening to it, with the following question:

What does R.E.M.'s 'The One I Love' have to do with fire?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 08, 2008, 01:02:39 PM
Juliana is the one that called it to my attention, but has anyone else noticed that Spoon's The Underdog sounds like a Billy Joel song?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: mik on May 08, 2008, 04:44:27 PM
This week the IT folks at my place of employment must have tightened the screws on our SmartFilter as I'm now blocked from woxy; boards and streaming audio. So I've been listening to The Current since Monday. I gotta say - I love it! They don't constantly play "new" stuff like woxy does and they play some great older tunes. Today I heard Devo's Uncontrollable Urge and the Suburbs Chemistry Set. Both brought a smile.

I miss woxy but The Current is so far a suitable replacement...............
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on May 08, 2008, 06:11:51 PM
I've narrowed down the list of names that I'm going to change my name to:

1. DJ Conner
2. DJ Whirled Peas

My friend Rich Housh used the name DJ Salinger for a while.

Ha!  Now that's a good DJ name.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on May 08, 2008, 06:59:09 PM
This week the IT folks at my place of employment must have tightened the screws on our SmartFilter as I'm now blocked from woxy; boards and streaming audio. So I've been listening to The Current since Monday. I gotta say - I love it! They don't constantly play "new" stuff like woxy does and they play some great older tunes. Today I heard Devo's Uncontrollable Urge and the Suburbs Chemistry Set. Both brought a smile.

I miss woxy but The Current is so far a suitable replacement...............

I guess.  My opinions have changed on this once great station over the last few months.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: MissKitty on May 09, 2008, 02:19:12 PM
This requires it's own post...

I put this song on a mix and let a friend at work test drive it for me.  I got an IM from her while she was listening to it, with the following question:

What does R.E.M.'s 'The One I Love' have to do with fire?

So did she actually listen to the lyrics? If not, send these to her:

(chorus 1)
This one goes out to the one I love
This one goes out to the one I've left behind
A simple prop to occupy my time
This one goes out to the one I love

(chorus 2)
Fire!!!
Fire!!!

(repeat chorus 1)

(repeat chorus 2)

This one goes out to the one I love
This one goes out to the one I've left behind
Another prop has occupied my time
This one goes out to the one I love

(repeat chorus 2 2x)


Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 12, 2008, 02:03:34 PM
The newest version of Ringo's All-Starr band set to go on tour should be renamed Ringo's All-Has-Beens-Obscurity Band.

Colin Hay (Men at Work)
Hamish Stuart (Average White Band/Paul McCartney's 90's touring band)
Billy Squier (The Stroke)
Edgar Winter (Frankenstein)
Garry Wright (Dream Weaver... gag)
and Gregg Bisonette (some drummer nobody ever heard of)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on May 12, 2008, 03:35:18 PM
Gregg Bissonette was David Lee Roth's drummer when he went solo, along with Steve Vai on guitar and Billy Sheehan on bass. He's also a pretty sought after session guy who has been on albums by Santana and Maynard Ferguson among others.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on May 19, 2008, 10:08:17 AM
I've been working on a cocktail called "Grounds for Divorce"

I am having problems prying myself away from this song and "A Trip Out" by British Sea Power of late.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on May 22, 2008, 03:33:53 PM
Quite aside from its terrible schoolboy-pun-of-a-title Led Zeppelin's "D'Yer Maker" has to be one of THE very worst cod dub/reggae abortions that exist in the world of music.

And yet it not only appears without any kind of embarrasment on "Houses of the Holy" but also the band's recent Mothership "best of" compilation. The whole band must have been off taking a shit when that decision was made.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on May 28, 2008, 01:18:19 PM
I've been working on a cocktail called "Grounds for Divorce"

I am having problems prying myself away from this song and "A Trip Out" by British Sea Power of late.

Add "Magic Spells" by Crystal Castles to that.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Marlowe on May 28, 2008, 05:32:22 PM
...the band's recent Mothership "best of" compilation.

i don't feel quite as strong as you do about d'yer, but i feel you there & know where you're coming from.

but, just to use your reference as a setup say that 'mothership' sounds AWEsome with it's re-mastering having been done. most of the songs sound like they could've been recorded last week. i thought a few of their original cd-transfers sounded kinda flat compared to the vinyls, but i was really happy w/this one.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on May 28, 2008, 09:42:59 PM
...the band's recent Mothership "best of" compilation.

i don't feel quite as strong as you do about d'yer, but i feel you there & know where you're coming from.

but, just to use your reference as a setup say that 'mothership' sounds AWEsome with it's re-mastering having been done. most of the songs sound like they could've been recorded last week. i thought a few of their original cd-transfers sounded kinda flat compared to the vinyls, but i was really happy w/this one.

I can't agree more
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on June 01, 2008, 08:48:35 PM
Led Zeppelin put out an awful lot of pure shit, much of it with similar pisstake type throwaway joke songs.  I actually like that about them, kind of.  But I certainly I don't want to listen to it.

D'yer Maker isn't actually that bad to me.  Although probably only because The Crunge is also on Houses and 100x worse.  I think it was actually the B-side to the D'yer Maker single, too.  Ugh.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on June 01, 2008, 08:57:01 PM
Dammit.  I missed an opportunity to use a Paimanteau.   I should have said "Led Zeppelin put out a lot of crap, literatively."

See, because I don't mean "crap" like stuff.  I mean crap in the sense of "bad."  So there is sort of an entendre there.  But I can't say "literally" because they didn't actually put excrement in bags and sell it.  It's both literal and figurative in a way, thus literative.

FTR:  This is only the second time I've ever been able to use "literatively" in a setence.  The other instance being "He got screwed by his girlfriend-- literatively."
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on June 03, 2008, 03:20:38 PM
I just read that two of my most beloved bands are playing a show together at the Hollywood Bowl: Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds and Spiritualized (Cat Power is rounding out the bill.)  Nick Cave and Jason Pierce.  I thought something like this would make my musical year, but I just can't wrap my head around the pairing. 

Maybe if I used heroin it would make sense.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: kcneon on June 09, 2008, 11:41:58 AM
How can such a cool track like Supergrass' "Rebel In You" be on such a crap album? 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on June 09, 2008, 11:57:05 AM
Soft Cell's "Tainted Love" & Dexy's Midnight Runners' "Come on Eileen" always seem to follow me around like bad smells
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: kcneon on June 09, 2008, 12:01:51 PM
Soft Cell's "Tainted Love" & Dexy's Midnight Runners' "Come on Eileen" always seem to follow me around like bad smells

I'm envisioning this like Ziggy's rain cloud!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on June 09, 2008, 12:22:48 PM
Soft Cell's "Tainted Love" & Dexy's Midnight Runners' "Come on Eileen" always seem to follow me around like bad smells

Uhhh...

OK, I'm finally getting around to comment on my CD from Foolsgold

Track list
1. Be Easy - Ghostface Killah
2. 54-56 Was My Number - Toots & the Maytalls
3. Come On Eileen - Dexys Midnight Runners
4. Tainted Love - Soft Cell

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: kcneon on June 12, 2008, 09:58:52 AM
It's taking all my restraint not to pipe in on the Coldplay thread over on WOXY.  ...so I'll just say it here instead: "Violet Hill" is such utter rubbish that I can't imagine listening to the new album.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on June 12, 2008, 10:18:15 AM
It's taking all my restraint not to pipe in on the Coldplay thread over on WOXY.  ...so I'll just say it here instead: "Violet Hill" is such utter rubbish that I can't imagine listening to the new album.

I can barely sit through their iPod commercial, so I feel about the same just because of a different song.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on June 12, 2008, 10:23:36 AM
I can barely sit through their iPod commercial, so I feel about the same just because of a different song.
I can't believe they did that song on the MTV Movie awards, nor can I believe that MTV has movie awards, much less that there is non-movie related music being performed at them.  Such a boring song.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on June 16, 2008, 02:54:00 PM
Adrian Utley's (guitar) gum chewing on the Portishead's Roseland New York DVD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg1jyL3cr60) is really distracting.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: kcneon on June 26, 2008, 01:44:12 PM
Quote
Coldplay's Viva La Vida or Death And All His Friends is the #1 album in America this week selling over 721,000 copies.

Maybe that shouldn't surprise me, but it does.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on June 26, 2008, 01:53:59 PM
I figured this one would fizzle and maybe the next one would be good again.  I guess, since this one seems to have legs, that the downward spiral will continue unabated.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on June 26, 2008, 06:20:12 PM
This is the first time in three years that two albums have sold 700,000 or more in back to back weeks.  (Lil' Wayne being the previous week's seller)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Juliana on June 26, 2008, 09:13:11 PM
People are really desperate for the next Amy Crackhouse.  I've heard that 2 separate singers in the last two days are the "NEXT"
Duffy and some other girl from  Britian.

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on June 26, 2008, 11:09:06 PM
That would be Adele, I believe.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on June 27, 2008, 11:22:08 PM
Adele has a much better voice, IMO, but Duffy has the better single.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on June 28, 2008, 03:41:23 PM
Yeah, I dig both of those chicks' voices, but agree that Duffy's song is better.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: whigsgeek on June 28, 2008, 04:41:16 PM
I wish the rest of Duffy's album were as good as "Mercy." I was pretty disappointed. They captured the whole Dusty Springfield vibe pretty well, but "Mercy" is the only song on there that moves. (imho)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on June 28, 2008, 08:47:07 PM
Today's drummers don't do enough cymbals
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on June 28, 2008, 11:21:52 PM
Drummers don't do shit anymore.  Maybe a bit of military snare on a verse, and a couple splashes on a fill during the chorus, that's about it.  Other than that it's four on the floor or that generic fatback hip-hop rhythm.

Drums have like, tone.  I mean I'm not a stickler about drums being tuned and complex rhythms and shit, but why not switch to the ride sometimes instead of always hihat on the verses and then metal-like toms on the chorus.  It's not like it's any harder to do.

Plus why not play a fill on the cymbals, every now and again.  You're doing the exact same fill, just on a cymbal instead of the toms.  How hard is that?  You can hit the friggin' cymbals in different places and harder or softer too.  You don't have to always use the same hit. 

Honestly, no one does shit on any instrument anymore.  I don't miss the technical-workout-masquerading-as-song days of the 80's, but would it kill you to improvise a little.  I don't know, maybe even have a solo of some kind.  It can be short.  You can pick your instrument.  But do something other than just insert some fat keyboard sound loop and think that changes things up.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on June 29, 2008, 01:35:00 PM
Ironic that every instrument can be programmed or edited to sound "better,' heck they don't have to be played by anyone and the public won't care, but if the vocals aren't sung by the singer, it's SCANDALOUS!!!  What's the difference?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: whigsgeek on June 29, 2008, 02:26:56 PM
Nate's post prompted me to wonder, is/are there currently any "band(s)" comprising only programmed instruments and vocals created by computer? Nothing sung by a human, no instruments played by a human? Just curious.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on July 01, 2008, 01:43:38 PM
Is Alanis going down on someone in a theater really all that perverted?  In the perversion spectrum, a blowjob in a darkened public space is pretty mild.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on July 01, 2008, 02:50:06 PM
Is Alanis going down on someone in a theater really all that perverted?  In the perversion spectrum, a blowjob in a darkened public space is pretty mild.

What are you doing tonight?

:p
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Slar on July 01, 2008, 03:50:59 PM
Nate's post prompted me to wonder, is/are there currently any "band(s)" comprising only programmed instruments and vocals created by computer? Nothing sung by a human, no instruments played by a human? Just curious.
Ruckus Roboticus?  Just guessing here.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: kcneon on July 10, 2008, 11:42:39 AM
Job hazard: finding out that Puddle of Mudd has a track being played on the Hot AC format.  That's just wrong. 

But then I quickly realize that I don't care because I'll never be listening to a Hot AC station.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on July 11, 2008, 02:10:11 AM
Daft Punk do anything like that?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: kcneon on July 11, 2008, 09:57:20 AM
Don't know if Daft Punk ever charted on that format, Nate, but it seems a little more common for electronic acts to make it onto AC station.  I did break down to listen to the PoM song...I can see where some stations would play it.  Not quite as hard as their early stuff.  It's a little more pop/punky.
 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: whigsgeek on July 11, 2008, 10:29:08 AM
Job hazard: finding out that Puddle of Mudd has a track being played on the Hot AC format.  That's just wrong. 

Is it their single that's a complete Nirvana ripoff? Something about a schizophrenic psycho.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: kcneon on July 11, 2008, 10:32:57 AM
Job hazard: finding out that Puddle of Mudd has a track being played on the Hot AC format.  That's just wrong. 

Is it their single that's a complete Nirvana ripoff? Something about a schizophrenic psycho.
That's the one.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Slar on July 11, 2008, 10:48:00 AM
I've not heard it, but it surely can't be much worse than the "I kissed a girl" song that has recently been polluting the airwaves.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on July 11, 2008, 06:31:58 PM
No, I meant for Daft Punk the entire use of computers in the music and vocals.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on July 25, 2008, 10:32:59 AM
Video Battles

The Air Instrument Insurrection

In the blue corner, hailing from Liverpool, the Farm's "All Together Now"

qTXU5cCU-ZE

And in the red corner, the pride of Miss Kitty, Journey's "Separate Ways"

sxxOyGK1pMk
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on July 30, 2008, 11:34:02 AM
Ozark Mountain Daredevils was an awesome band name.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on August 01, 2008, 02:38:15 PM
Ever since I figured out how to get iTunes to automatically d/load the album covers for my mp3s... I've found myself listening to a lot more of Placebo's "Sleeping With Ghosts."
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on August 02, 2008, 07:36:01 AM
Last night I dreamt that all my old store staff and I were spending time in prison.

I knew we shouldn't have been selling those Gerry Rafferty CD's
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on August 02, 2008, 09:49:51 PM
There is a Zoey Deschanel/Jenny Lewis duet on her next album.  Now all they need to do is form a supergroup with Maggie Gyllenhaal.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: whigsgeek on August 03, 2008, 11:36:11 AM
Hopefully Zooey sings better than she acts.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on August 03, 2008, 03:16:47 PM
You haven't heard She and Him? 

She sings better than she acts.  She's actually really, really good.  Although it doesn't matter.  The problem is that no matter how well she sings or acts, she's never quite as good as she thinks she is.  There's always this little layer of faux precociousness or pretentiousness to it.

Actually that pretty much describes Jenny Lewis, Maggie Gyllenhaal and Zooey Deschanel in all their singing and acting endeavors.



Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on August 03, 2008, 03:47:53 PM
Listen to this for some Zooey goodness.

She & Him - You Really Got A Hold On Me (http://www.sendspace.com/file/fs03vs)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on August 03, 2008, 05:54:22 PM
I enjoyed Zooey's singing in "Bridge To Terabithia." And yeah, I'd enjoy it in She & Him, too, if I was into that kind of music.

Of course, if Zooey knocks on my door I'll be telling her (and you) that she's the greatest singer and actress in the history of mankind.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: whigsgeek on August 05, 2008, 09:21:59 AM
Quote from: rva
You haven't heard She and Him?

Nope. Haven't had a chance yet to listen to what Nate shared, but I will soon b/c I'm wicked curious.

Also, I thought you were being sarcastic about Maggie Gyllenhaal. Didn't know she also sings. Is she any good?

 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on August 05, 2008, 12:44:24 PM
I'd say she's on the Gwyneth Paltrow level.  Either of them could be the lead in a HS chorus or musical production. Chances are you know someone who sings as well as them (but you probably also regard that person as a really good singer).

Jenny Lewis could be the lead in a college production, which is actually better than the majority of rock singers.

Zooey Deschanel might be able to sing on Broadway.  So yeah, she's actually more legitimate as a singer than most actual recording artists.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on August 05, 2008, 01:29:50 PM
Zooey Deschanel might be able to sing on Broadway.  So yeah, she's actually more legitimate as a singer than most actual recording artists.

Her singing in Elf was pretty top notch.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on August 05, 2008, 03:17:08 PM
Martin Gore has a really pretty voice.  He couldn't carry the band, but the songs in which he is the lead are terrific and I love his backing vocal work. 

I could say the exact same thing about Mike Mills.

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: matt on August 13, 2008, 07:44:42 AM
Mogwai's video for Batcat.

Wx1HzNSkkq8
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on August 15, 2008, 03:03:27 PM
Even with the books and poetry Paul Simon used to protect him, I'll bet he still got his ass kicked a lot on the playground.

Atomic wedgies > Byron sonnets
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: kcneon on August 20, 2008, 10:13:50 AM
This topic came up at work recently:  would you guys consider 'math rock' more obscure than 'shoegaze' music?

I would think a lot more casual music fans would know what shoegaze is...thoughts?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on August 20, 2008, 10:40:03 AM
I wouldn't call myself a casual music fan and I don't know what "math rock" is.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: kcneon on August 20, 2008, 10:53:48 AM
I wouldn't call myself a casual music fan and I don't know what "math rock" is.
Are you familiar w/ shoegaze, kwyj?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: whigsgeek on August 20, 2008, 10:55:57 AM
I wouldn't call myself a casual music fan and I don't know what "math rock" is.

Ditto. I do know shoegaze, though.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on August 20, 2008, 10:56:20 AM
I'm not sure, but I'd think that shoegaze relies more on walls of sound that create more of a atmospheric listening experience and less on traditional song structures.  Math rock sounds more technical, more precise or complicated chord progressions or rhythms.

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on August 20, 2008, 10:56:46 AM
I wouldn't call myself a casual music fan and I don't know what "math rock" is.
Are you familiar w/ shoegaze, kwyj?
Yes, My Bloody Valentine comes immediately to mind.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: kcneon on August 20, 2008, 11:05:58 AM
Bam.  I think Kwyj just proved my point!   :)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: whigsgeek on August 20, 2008, 11:08:51 AM
kc, can you give an example of math rock?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on August 20, 2008, 11:41:46 AM
The Minus Five?

The Equals?

The High Numbers?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: kcneon on August 20, 2008, 12:34:16 PM
maybe Toe, Shellac...I like fools' description. 

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on August 20, 2008, 02:07:30 PM
foolsgold has it right.

Math rock is actually very angular with lots of dissonant chords and odd rhythms.  Think Frank Zappa.  Highly experimental, noisy, punk-jazz.  Shellac, Polvo, Richmond's own Breadwinner.  Those are good examples.

Shoegaze is just a big wall of sound.  It's drone-y with not much to the rhythm elements whereas math rock is angular and in your face. It uses mostly traditional structures and chords in the songs.  It's like if there were an instrument called "a distortion-noise-o-phone."  If you played a regular song on the distortion-noise-o-phone it would be shoegaze.

Shoegaze is like riding waves of noise.  Math rock is like noisy firecrackers going off in your face.  If you don't like shoegaze, you'll fall asleep.  If you don't like math rock you'll want to turn off that goddamn racket.

I like some shoegaze.  Most mathrock drives me nuts.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: matt on August 21, 2008, 10:28:41 PM
Mathrock:

Don Caballero - You Drink A Lot Of Coffee For A Teenager
xod_CrP-YQs


Shoegaze:

My Bloody Valentine - Only Shallow
GB8nCE2EoIw


Def Leppard:

Bringing on the Heartbreak:
R1-j9hEPenM
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on August 21, 2008, 10:45:52 PM
lol at the random Def Leppard.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on August 21, 2008, 11:13:04 PM
Those Mountain Kingdom motherfuckers totally had it coming.  It pisses me off everytime.  They completely deserved what happened.  They acted like they had some kind of hot shit and were being all magnanimous about it, when they knew all along it was just a crappy piece of paper. 

If someone asks me if they can dig some worthless stuff up, I'm like "Look, I'll save you some time.  It's just some stupid message about peace.  Really.  But if you want to do it, go nuts.  It's nothing to me.  I don't want you thinking I'm lying to you."  Why?  Because I'm not a dick.  I don't want you digging up some worthless piece of crap. 

But no, those Mountain assholes are all "We are brothers.  We will share with you the secrets and riches of the mountain."  What fucking secrets and riches?  You try and pump yourself up like you're hot shit, don't get mad when people try to take you down. 

I mean, just think about how the situation started in the first place.  What's wrong with the Valley?  Nothing.  It's all temperate and fertile.  But no, you have to go live on top of the mountain higher than everyone else even though it's a harsher environment.  The valley people are just Valley Folk, but noooo, you gotta be the "Kingdom of the Mountain."  That right there tells me what kind of snobby asshole you are. 

Now you're gonna be judgmental about it, too.  "Oh wait, you killed us all for nothing.  All you got was a piece of paper.  Boohoo."   You could have probably avoided the situation, but you decided it would be better to "teach me a lesson" and write some crappy passive-aggressive song about it.  Sure it turned out to just be a crappy message, but now the whole mountain is mine and you're all dead.  So who got the better end of the deal?  Me, asshat.  And I don't even feel bad about it.  That's what you get.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on August 21, 2008, 11:21:53 PM
Oh, and thanks for sticking me with 30 years of really crappy Goth and "dark metal" while you're at it. 

Seriously Jinx Dawson, what are you-- like 60?  Give it up.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on August 22, 2008, 12:04:44 PM
Some Goth isn't bad.

No, actually it is pretty bad.  Any genre that gives Andrew Eldritch a career is pretty much worthless.  Although, there is something to be said about the correlation of a woman's love of the Sisters of Mercy and them being easy, so I guess it's a wash.

Automatic shoes, automatic shoes can give you 3-D vision in a California blues and it took the unbridled genius of Daniel Ash to remind us of that. 

Reminds me of a bad joke: What's the last thing to go through Princess Di's Marc Bolan's mind?

Braintax might be the worse rapper name ever.  (this isn't the punchline.)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on August 22, 2008, 01:12:14 PM
I think the joke might actually be....

"What was the name of Marc Bolan's final hit?"

Your punchline: The windshield
My punchline: The dashboard

At my store often referred to A.E.'s band as The Shitstirrers of Mercy"

I can think of a particularly vacuous rock bitch who believes she is the Queen of Goth. Queen of fucking Dairy more like. Mooooooooo!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on August 22, 2008, 09:19:13 PM
Are you ready for Phil Collins:  The Musical (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1048373/His-ex-wives-cost-42m--wonder-theres-fool-like-old-Phil.html)?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: matt on August 22, 2008, 10:39:45 PM
lol at the random Def Leppard.
You know you watched it and liked it.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on August 26, 2008, 09:57:17 AM
Ummmm....


There's new NKOTB?




What exactly is their target demographic?

http://www.amazon.com/Block-New-Kids/dp/B001CISXEY/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1219758782&sr=8-2
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: whigsgeek on August 26, 2008, 10:01:44 AM
Apparently the woman in my office who's flying to Vegas to see them in concert.

I don't get it, either, but then again I dropped everything to see the original Duran Duran lineup reunited a few years ago, so I probably shouldn't point fingers. :)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on August 27, 2008, 03:15:13 PM
I brought in to work today Skavoovie and the Epitones' "Fat Footin'" for some nostalgic ska listenin.



Goodness this is amazing stuff!!!

I'd completely forgotten how much I love this disc. I'm almost loopy with happiness.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on August 27, 2008, 07:31:26 PM
Can I get a "Rewind"?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on August 28, 2008, 08:27:59 AM
How about a re-rewind, bo-selecta?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Doug on August 28, 2008, 04:01:41 PM
Artfully dodged.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: vizzah on August 29, 2008, 12:35:07 PM
Sometimes it seems like my ipod knows where I'm travelling. For example:
"Open all night" by Son Volt always plays when I'm passing the numerous transmission shops on the way to lunch.
Johnny Cash's "Big River" comes on almost every time I'm on 75 or on main, crossing the stinkin' rivers of the Gem City. 

But the best, as of yet, was yesterday.  As I pulled into the Mound Advanced Technology Center, formerly the Mound Nuclear Facility, shuffle went straight to "Radiation Vibe" by Fountains of Wayne. 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on September 02, 2008, 04:51:20 PM
I uncharacteristically haven't bought any music this year, really. A few bits and pieces here and there, but nothing of note. I don't buy too many Greatest hits packages as a rule, either. It's funny, then, that I am more than a little excited to get hold of a copy of the new singles collection by The Coral in the next couple of weeks. I really think that The Coral are one of the most underrated singles bands of the last decade and I can't wait to buy and spin the fucker.

Glen Campbell's new album of cover versions is really good. Glen even makes a Green Day tune almost listenable. I'll be buying that one, too. Yeah, Glen Campbell.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: mik on September 03, 2008, 03:42:01 PM
Glen Campbell's new album of cover versions is really good. Glen even makes a Green Day tune almost listenable. I'll be buying that one, too. Yeah, Glen Campbell.
I just listened to an interview/in studio performance with Glen Campbell on NPR's World Cafe. He sounded excellent, especially the version of The Velvet Underground's "Jesus" he did. Yeah, I'll be getting the new cd as well.........
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on September 05, 2008, 02:37:23 PM
Anyone else think the beginning of Pearl Jam's "Better Man" sounds like Stone Roses' "I Wanna Be Adored"?

Weird.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: clemsonfan on September 05, 2008, 04:12:33 PM
I've thought that too!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on September 12, 2008, 02:10:05 PM
If Baggy hadn't happened, would Britpop have surfaced, or would Chapterhouse, Ride and the shoegazer crowd have gained momentum and become the sound of the early 90's in the UK?

I've no idea, but that first Blur record hasn't aged very well. Swervedriver's debut single, however, remains EPIC.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on September 12, 2008, 03:36:24 PM
If Baggy hadn't happened, would Britpop have surfaced, or would Chapterhouse, Ride and the shoegazer crowd have gained momentum and become the sound of the early 90's in the UK?

House of Love would've been pretty big too.

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on September 15, 2008, 01:17:48 PM
House of Love would've been pretty big too.

Totally. I was a really big fan of House of Love. They were great live, and their first couple of records were outstanding. I think i'll give them a listen later on, actually.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on September 16, 2008, 01:19:56 PM
Given the electricity issues around town, I've had this:

 z33tH-JdPDg

stuck in my head for a good 36 hours.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on September 16, 2008, 02:00:18 PM
Man, that new Oasis single, "Falling Down," is really quite something else. I totally love it. I hope the rest of their new album is as full of awesome as this song is.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on September 16, 2008, 02:16:47 PM
Given the electricity issues around town, I've had this: stuck in my head for a good 36 hours.

Damn, I thought it was going to be Eddy Grant
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on September 16, 2008, 05:10:10 PM
At least go with the original Chill Rob G version:
P1Nwy5Nmffc
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: cuddlyevil on September 17, 2008, 01:47:37 PM
Damn, I thought it was going to be Eddy Grant

vtPk5IUbdH0
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on September 17, 2008, 02:14:40 PM
Somebody requested Electric Avenue at the wedding I DJed Saturday. I think that's the first time. They went apeshit when they heard the familiar motorcycle rev at the beginning.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on September 17, 2008, 02:38:49 PM
This new and possibly fake Britney Spears songs is actually kind of catchy. 

Then again, I'm going out tonight to pick paint palettes with my interior designer so clearly I have lost any semblance of indie cred or manliness.  What happened to me?  Someone please shoot me now.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on September 17, 2008, 06:34:42 PM
Wow, you are brave in admitting that.  That's slightly manly, but that other shit totally out ways your brave honesty.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on September 17, 2008, 10:19:19 PM
Then again, I'm going out tonight to pick paint palettes with my interior designer so clearly I have lost any semblance of indie cred or manliness.  What happened to me?  Someone please shoot me now.
As long as it's not all pastels, you're okay.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on September 18, 2008, 11:34:25 AM
Nothing could have been hotter for a woman than seeing a six foot, five inch guy on crutches dancing in a darkened club to the musical stylings of the Lords of Acids while mouthing the words “sit on your face, I want to sit on your face” for five minutes.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Doug on September 18, 2008, 12:44:19 PM
Then again, I'm going out tonight to pick paint palettes with my interior designer so clearly I have lost any semblance of indie cred or manliness.  What happened to me?  Someone please shoot me now.

Heh...you're just figuring that out now?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: trixi on September 18, 2008, 11:52:55 PM
Nothing could have been hotter for a woman than seeing a six foot, five inch guy on crutches dancing in a darkened club to the musical stylings of the Lords of Acids while mouthing the words “sit on your face, I want to sit on your face” for five minutes.
That was you?  You were hot 8)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on September 19, 2008, 11:52:39 PM
The theme song of the RNC (at about the 3rd minute)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6eAOmz-Aag
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on September 23, 2008, 03:42:54 PM
My favorite part of "Darling Nikki" is that "Jwwaaaaw" part that occurs at 1:20.

Almost, but not quite as good as Nick Cave's belch at 3:56 of "Tower Song" or that weird giggle/conniption thing in "Some Like it Hot" by the Power Station.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on September 23, 2008, 04:44:55 PM
I can't listen to "Microphone Fiend" anymore without saying "Snare Snare Snare" all through the last 45-60 seconds.

Damn you, J5.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on September 24, 2008, 07:21:07 AM
My favorite part of "Darling Nikki" is that "Jwwaaaaw" part that occurs at 1:20.

Almost, but not quite as good as Nick Cave's belch at 3:56 of "Tower Song" or that weird giggle/conniption thing in "Some Like it Hot" by the Power Station.

Also nearly as good as that odd screaming fit someone has towards the end of Tears for Fears' "Sowing the Seeds of Love".

This could seriously be its own thread.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on September 24, 2008, 07:45:45 AM
Holy shit, dude.

Clay Aiken is gay!

He hid it really well, I'm pretty surprised.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 24, 2008, 08:36:12 AM
Almost, but not quite as good as Nick Cave's belch at 3:56 of "Tower Song" or that weird giggle/conniption thing in "Some Like it Hot" by the Power Station.

Is that as good as the 7 or 8 minutes of Ash throwing up and pissing on the studio floor at the end of 1977?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on September 26, 2008, 09:10:58 AM
"Professional" concert photographers really could use lessons in:

a) being courteous
b) shot selective so as to not shoot an entire show
c) penile enlargement pills so they could stop compensating for those ridiculous telephoto lenses when they're 6 feet away from the band.

____

Yesterday, while I was at the Blue Wisp watching Spectrum (Sonic Boom of Spacemen 3's band), some douchebag from Channel 12 news (of course, it was channel 12) came in to do some filming.  During the set, louder than the music, he told a number of people he was "REPORTING FOR CHANNEL 12 NEWS.

Then he had the cameraman turn on his floodlight to take long shots of the crowd and band.  Completely annoying and I should've thrown my beer bottle at him.

Douche.

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: trixi on September 28, 2008, 10:59:52 PM
It's very very wrong to hear My Humps mixed with Song 2.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on October 07, 2008, 03:27:40 PM
I find it odd that I've never seen Ric Ocasek and Howard Stern together in the same room.

Very odd indeed.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: vizzah on October 07, 2008, 04:48:18 PM
My ex-boyfriend worked at CD Warehouse and we always joked how the store's owner and Peter Buck looked strikingly similar - and Jim (the owner) was always unavailable if REM had a show that night.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: vizzah on October 07, 2008, 04:49:57 PM
Oh, and speaking of look-alikes...


(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c45/mavsfan99/FlavorFlavGremlin.jpg)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on October 09, 2008, 03:04:03 PM
The Stone Roses' "Love Spreads" would be a million times more listenable if a particular lyric was actually how I hear it:

Actual lyric
I'm hiding in the trees with a picnic, she's over there, yeah

What I hear
I'm hiding in the trees with a big dick, she's over there, yeah

See?!?  A million times better.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on October 14, 2008, 04:27:56 PM
I took a lunch break at work today, during which my mind wandered and I decided to scribble down some songs on a bit of paper that would look good on a "perfect pop" mix tape. On arriving home, I found the list in my back pocket:

A:

The Electric Soft Parade - Silent To The Dark
Chris Bell - I Am The Cosmos
The Brilliant Corners - Brian Rix
The Monkees - Valerie
The Blue Aeroplanes - Jacket Hangs
The Kinks - Waterloo Sunset
Dumptruck - Back Where I Belong
Joe Pernice - Bum Leg
Yazoo - Nobody's Diary
The Shop Assistants - Train From Kansas City
The Hollies - Bus Stop
The Sundays - Can't Be Sure

B:

The Mighty Wah! - The Story Of The Blues
The Coral - Don't Think You're The First
Fun Boy Three - Our Lips Are Sealed
The Smithereens - Behind The Wall Of Sleep
The Delgados - Mr. Blue Sky
The Zombies - She's Not There
Madness - Michael Caine
Lush - Etherial
Talk Talk - Today
Kid Creole & The Coconuts - Stool Pigeon
Kraftwerk - The Model
Ride - Twisterella



I doubt i'll ever get around to recording it, but it was a fun way to spend 10 minutes.





Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on October 18, 2008, 03:46:28 PM
Why would anyone think selections from Van Halen's 1984 make good college marching band music? (No, "Hot for Teacher" was not one of them.)

And then I felt old when I realized everyone in said marching band was born after the album was released.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on October 28, 2008, 12:00:01 AM
Gang Gang Dance's "House Jam" TOTALLY reminds me of Kate Bush's "Running Up That Hill."
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on October 28, 2008, 02:24:38 PM
There's a data element that we collect for the vast majority of our reports, called "Level."  The different levels you can report are coded by numbers, eg. 15, 21, 26, etc.  Most of the code numbers are fairly simple but there are a few that are a bit tricky, and sometimes people are unsure of whether someone should be reported at that given level.  One of the trickier levels is "42."

So just about every morning someone calls me up and says something like "What is level 42?"  And just about every morning I spend the next 2 hours trying to get "Something About You," out of my head.

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on November 01, 2008, 01:31:54 PM
You don't tell them that level 42 is the answer to life, the universe, and everything?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on November 07, 2008, 11:33:26 AM
RVA listens to Stars and Sons.

Man this song is boringzzzzzzz..... OOOOH CLAPPY PART!!!

*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*

I don't even know what this song is about.  Now where was I....YAY CLAPPY PART!!!

*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*

Is this song STILL going?!?  Damn.....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....ULTRAMEGA CLAPPY PART!!!

*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*
*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*
*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*
*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*clap*

Man, that song sucks.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on November 08, 2008, 03:37:02 PM
Bollocks. I love me some Stars and Sons. With and without the ultramega clappy part. It's a fun song.

But I have no idea what it's about either.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on December 05, 2008, 01:16:38 PM
I love the Hives/Cyndi Lauper Christmas song.  The Hives are so gimmicky... but I LOVE their gimmick.  Is that so wrong?

I guess one could say the same for Cyndi Lauper.  And I love her, too.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on December 05, 2008, 05:59:21 PM
The Hives work for me, too.
In this age of sound-alike bands, gimmicks stand apart.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on December 08, 2008, 06:04:29 PM
I was at a thrift store this weekend, and I saw these nice old vintage glass jars.  I was like, "Hey, those are nice.  I could put some glass rocks or shells or marbles in them.  Or grow a plant." 

And then I couldn't remember what they were called for a second and it was bugging me.  Then I thought "Oh, wait those are apothecary jars."  And then it started singing in my brain "That is what those are... apothecary jars" to the tune of Solitary Man and it wouldn't stop.

So then I didn't buy the jars because that was super annoying. 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on December 08, 2008, 06:31:18 PM
I think Neil Diamond has a post-music career.  Singing jingles to old versions of his songs.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: matt on December 08, 2008, 11:30:56 PM
I love when I rediscover a great band.  This time - Gravenhurst. 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on December 09, 2008, 09:45:55 AM
I like that imagination of yours.
My brain does similar things.
I guess it's better than hearing voices.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on December 21, 2008, 09:13:26 PM
Man, I love this Basia Bulat stuff that Nate recommended. What a fun and beautiful sound.


Thanks for the tip Nate.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on December 22, 2008, 06:21:06 PM
That's such a great tune.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Doug on December 23, 2008, 08:08:16 AM
It took listening and falling in love with Beck's "Modern Guilt" to make me go back and finally appreciate "The Information".
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on December 23, 2008, 11:38:36 AM
Some Random Top 5

Top 5 Faves:

1) British Sea Power- Do You Like Rock Music?

Why, yes.  Yes I do.  With a little bombast, s'il te plait.  Unfortunately, 2008 brought precious little of it, save for this slice of classic Britrock.

2)  Adele- 19

Maybe everyone's a little sick of Hometown Glory by now.  If so, they ought to listen to the rest of this album.  Amy Winehouse has an interesting voice, but it's really basic jazz/soul with poor lyrics over basic jazz/hip-hop dance beats.  She's like the Tone Loc of New Torch.  Adele has the same interesting voice but actually DOES something with.  The arrangements (vocal and instrumental) and lyrics are merely 10,000 times better.  You know what?  The two don't even sound that much alike.  Let that be the LAST Winehouse comparison ever.

3)  Jessica Lea Mayfield- With Blasphemy So Heartfelt

This is not normally my bag, and yeah it is kind of a Cat Power rip-off.  Still, it's very well done and it's an album for every-once-in-a-lonely-night not for everyday so it doesn't have to be that groundbreaking or varied in its sound.  This is what everyone should have been listening to instead of Jenny Lewis or She and Him.

4)  Black Mountain- In the Future

Also not usually my bag and arguably not even their best.  But these guys just keeping putting out GREAT albums and it's time they were acknowledged.  And for whatever reason, I listened to this one a lot this year.

5)  TV on the Radio-- Dear Science

Not much to say about this one.  If you like 'em, this is as good as everything else they've done.  If you don't, it's probably too late for them to convert you.  It's actually kind of like Black Mountain, really.  They just keep on putting out great albums that I skimmed over for various random reasons, I guess.  And the timing was right where this one finally grabbed my attention enough.


Top 5 Creative Achievement:

These are albums which ultimately didn't grab me enough to make my Top 5, but I feel like should make the Top 5 of other people's lists.  There's just something there that you have to respect even if it's not your deal.

1)  Parts and Labor-- Receivers

2)  Dr. Dog-- Fate

Kind of psyche, kind of folk, yet still melodic and catchy.  It's off-kilter in some indefineable way that just missed for me, but that I find fascinating and could easily see other people loving.  I suspect I will go back at some point and find I love this album.

3)  Kanye West-- 808's and Heartbreak

As an album, yeah it's too much vocoder (I wonder if he can sing?) and too same-y to be good.  But it's also a interesting move and way different.  And I think it was what he was feeling at the time.  And it's still well-done, because the dude oozes talent.  I hope this is not his future direction.

4) D'Angelo--  Bunch of Shit No One Will Ever Hear

Dude has serious alcohol and drug issues, along with a heaping helping of Axl Rose-itis.  He's also a musical genius.  I have heard from some people who know him that he's sitting on *hundreds* of tracks that are essentially finished or near-finished and he just keeps tinkering and tinkering with them, or he can't get his shit together enough.  You can get a taste on the YODA bootleg, but that's sort of cobbled together.  Anyways, being from Richmond and knowing some peeps, I've heard maybe 20-25 unreleased D'Angelo tracks and they range from gospel-ish pieces to neosoul to funk to hip-hop flavored rock.  Sometimes all blended in one song.  We're talking Prince-in-his-heyday good.  I'm dead serious.

5)  Thao Nguyen-- I can't lie.  I can't stand this CD.  BUT... it's really interesting, and the kind of thing where I can really understand why it grabs some people.  It's like the reverse Antony and the Johnsons (who btw, I also hate).

2007 Missed album-- Great Northern.  I got this too late last year for it to make that big an impression, but I listened to this thing non-stop from about mid-January to March and I still put it on maybe twice a week.  Great, great record.

Fun albums I listened to a lot this year that probably aren't artistic masterpieces or anything:

Looker, Matthew Sweet, Hello Dragon, Green Peppers, Manhattan Love Suicides, Headlights, Top Choice Clique, Gaslight Anthem
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on January 01, 2009, 06:43:22 PM
I finally got around to updating to iTunes 8. The genius feature is quite cool (as I never listened to Pandora, it's new to me). For example, my Mr. November genius playlist:
Mr. November   The National
Cause = Time   Broken Social Scene
Brother   Annuals
Me and Mia   Ted Leo and The Pharmacists
Gideon   My Morning Jacket
Take Me to the Riot   Stars
Dead Sound   The Raveonettes
Apartment Story   The National
European Oils   Destroyer
Grass   Animal Collective
Each Year   Ra Ra Riot
The Boy With the Arab Strap   Belle and Sebastian
The Rat   The Walkmen
No Children   The Mountain Goats
Secret Meeting   The National
Sleep Tonight   Stars
Counting Down the Hours   Ted Leo and The Pharmacists
Chips Ahoy!   The Hold Steady
Let's Call It Off   Peter Bjorn and John
Ocean of Noise   Arcade Fire
Murder Me Rachael   The National
Twin Cinema   The New Pornographers
Louisiana   The Walkmen
Stuck Between Stations   The Hold Steady
Dreams   TV on the Radio

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on January 08, 2009, 09:54:24 AM
What would have been the outcome if the members of ABBA had been named William, Andrea, Nigel & Kathleen?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on January 08, 2009, 10:45:44 AM
[Family Guy's Cleveland]
KNAW.... you didn't just go there.
[/Family Guy's Cleveland]


Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: whigsgeek on January 08, 2009, 11:28:25 AM
What would have been the outcome if the members of ABBA had been named Chuck, Uma, Nigel & Theresa?

Fix'd for me.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: redbobsled on January 09, 2009, 04:31:26 PM
Is it just me, or do all of Lily Allen's songs sound essentially the same?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on January 12, 2009, 01:43:54 PM
Is it just me, or do all of Lily Allen's songs sound essentially the same?

Unfortunately, this could be said of a great many artists.  "Hootie and the Blowfish Syndrome" I call it.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on January 12, 2009, 02:56:26 PM
What would have been the outcome if the members of ABBA had been named Chuck, Uma, Nigel & Theresa?

Fix'd for me.
My apologies for failing to see this post in time for a GSPoTD.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Juliana on January 12, 2009, 03:41:08 PM
Unfortunately, this could be said of a great many artists.  "Hootie and the Blowfish Syndrome" I call it.

Yeah, to me it's more of a Gin Blossoms thing, but only because I've seen them twice and gone "ooh, it's that one awesome song!......oh, no it's that other one"  about 10 times per show. 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: redbobsled on January 12, 2009, 03:51:10 PM
Unfortunately, this could be said of a great many artists.  "Hootie and the Blowfish Syndrome" I call it.

Yeah, to me it's more of a Gin Blossoms thing, but only because I've seen them twice and gone "ooh, it's that one awesome song!......oh, no it's that other one"  about 10 times per show. 


But perhaps no one offends so egregiously as Bad Religion.  You can actually sing along any of their songs to any of their other songs and it will completely work. 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on January 12, 2009, 04:46:25 PM
Unfortunately, this could be said of a great many artists.  "Hootie and the Blowfish Syndrome" I call it.

Yeah, to me it's more of a Gin Blossoms thing, but only because I've seen them twice and gone "ooh, it's that one awesome song!......oh, no it's that other one"  about 10 times per show. 


That really depends on how familiar you are with the material. I'd never mistake a Gin Blossoms song for another, for instance.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on January 12, 2009, 04:48:08 PM
But perhaps no one offends so egregiously as Bad Religion.  You can actually sing along any of their songs to any of their other songs and it will completely work. 

Same with Nickelback, at least until recently. I think somebody whispered into their ears about it because, while still not good, at least every song doesn't sound the same anymore.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on January 12, 2009, 06:08:59 PM
Unfortunately, this could be said of a great many artists.  "Hootie and the Blowfish Syndrome" I call it.

Yeah, to me it's more of a Gin Blossoms thing, but only because I've seen them twice and gone "ooh, it's that one awesome song!......oh, no it's that other one"  about 10 times per show. 


That really depends on how familiar you are with the material. I'd never mistake a Gin Blossoms song for another, for instance.

Yup.  I've always thought the 'one song sounds like the others' only worked for a handful of bands.  The Ramones being one.  And that had nothing to do with the quality of said performer's songs.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on January 12, 2009, 06:13:18 PM
Have I ever shared my hatred of MIA on these boards?  Well I hate her.  A LOT.

Have I also ever shared the story of my coworker who is a very nice person, but basically doesn't care at all about music so will just play whatever mixtape someone hands her over-and over?  Unfortunately, the sister of said co-worker *DOES* care about music... really bad dance music, music from TV shows, and just crap.  

So anyway, the two worlds have collided and this person has been playing MIA ALL FUCKING DAY.  It's like an involuntary torturethon.  And you know what?  She's going to play MIA all day tomorrow, too.  And the day after that.  And the day after that.  Probably until the next time her sister gives her a mixtape which is not going to happen for a long-ass time because the holidays are over.

It's horrible.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on January 12, 2009, 07:42:08 PM
Sounds like you need to mix something up for her.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on January 12, 2009, 07:55:39 PM
I was thinking the same thing. If she plays any mixtape someone gives her, then make her one. Educate her, W. We know you can.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on January 12, 2009, 08:35:37 PM
Have I ever shared my hatred of MIA on these boards?  Well I hate her.  A LOT.

Have I also ever shared the story of my coworker who is a very nice person, but basically doesn't care at all about music so will just play whatever mixtape someone hands her over-and over?  Unfortunately, the sister of said co-worker *DOES* care about music... really bad dance music, music from TV shows, and just crap.  

So anyway, the two worlds have collided and this person has been playing MIA ALL FUCKING DAY.  It's like an involuntary torturethon.  And you know what?  She's going to play MIA all day tomorrow, too.  And the day after that.  And the day after that.  Probably until the next time her sister gives her a mixtape which is not going to happen for a long-ass time because the holidays are over.

It's horrible.

I agree, MIA is terrible terrible noise.  Definitely make her a mix!  Now!  For your own sanity man.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on January 14, 2009, 11:36:56 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51357YAADRL._SS500_.jpg)

Semisonic?  20th Century Masters?  Do they mean Masters, like master tapes?  Or like Masters like the way golf means it.  As in, they are masters of music.

Hopefully it's the first way.  Because I like a few Semisonic songs, and I think I even bought "Feeling Strangely Fine".  But Masters is overstating it by a large margin.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on January 14, 2009, 03:00:03 PM
Perhaps 'bator' got missed off the title between master and the 's'?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on January 14, 2009, 04:48:14 PM
I enjoyed reading drummer dude's book.  But yeah, not masters.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on January 14, 2009, 06:13:03 PM
I think that was just a collection of singles, which is even more weird.  Take half of Feeling Strangely Fine, a third of Great Divide and two off the 'Chemistry' album and that's a nice CD.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Hell Toupee on January 14, 2009, 10:23:12 PM
I'm playing MIA all day tomorrow for rva...

...but only after I finish listening to the Fever Ray CD for the umpteenth time. That there's some good stuff (if you like moodier The Knife tracks, that is).
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on January 15, 2009, 04:57:36 PM
Karma Karma Karma Karma Karme Cham-e-le-on....

(http://www.dlisted.com/files/georgesexy1.jpg)

Do you Really Want to Hurt me? Looks like somebody already has hit you with a Culture Club?!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on January 15, 2009, 05:24:02 PM
Wow.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on January 15, 2009, 06:34:41 PM
Looks like he's gone from 'Boy' George to 'Fat Uncle' George.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on January 23, 2009, 10:52:02 AM
I don't know what Katy Perry's trying to do. Iis it supposed to be more like whacky-but-saucy, cute-but-controversial a la Lily Allen?  Or is it more of a rock/dance queen like Kelly Clarkson?

I mean, because dressing in weird bright colored clothes isn't really all that whacky.  And Lily Allen's lyrics and her songs in general have a certain playfulness to them, as opposed to Katy Perry's disco club hits with her belting over top.  And she doesn't have anywhere close to Clarkson's pipes, not in quality of voice, not in range, not in ability to emote. And I think Kelly Clarkson is aware she has a nice face but huge hips and dresses appropriately (and it appears had a bit of tasteful work done).

I dunno.  She just reeks to me of a person who is thoroughly boring in everyway.  It's not like she has no talent, or no looks, or no personality I guess, but she doesn't have anywhere near enough of it to be a star.  Her songs are okay in a Max Martin way, I guess which means that Max Martin could easily just get rid of her and work with someone sexier/smarter/better.

In a perfect world, it would make for a good "regular girl hits lottery" type story in my mind.  I picture her as someone who knows they're just too regular to live a crazy rock star life, takes the money from her hits and then retires happily and spends her time traveling the world, or working in community theater or adopting homeless pets.  Maybe a few years down the line, she writes a book about her whacky experiences.  That would be kind of cool.  Really more rock stars should be like that. 

Except I can't shake the feeling that she's NOT this deepdown centered person just trying to working an angle as long as she can, knowing her fifteen minutes are going by fast.  I get the feeling she has no idea who she is and thinks the "Katy Perry" persona is actually cool.  Even though she doesn't quite grasp what it is, and only thinks it is cool because someone told her it was.

Whoever that "someone" is, they should tell her that she is more cute than sexy and should probably go in that direction.  Tone it all down, ditch the spandex and hot pants for jeans and skirts and go for the girl-next-door look.  Because, regrettably, she looks like a housewife and that is going to become very much more pronounced over time.  An attractive housewife, sure.  But not like a rock star.  And with the whacky clothes and bright red lipstick, it's more like your friend's creepy divorced mom who thought she was ten years younger than she was.

And that was 5,000 words too many spent ruminating on the phenomenon that is Katy Perry.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on January 23, 2009, 11:24:17 AM
You know who I like?  I like you RVA... I like you.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on January 23, 2009, 04:16:32 PM
I think phenomenon is being a bit generous. Regardless, whatever fame she has now will most likely fizzle by the time her looks start to go down to hill. She's moderately talented, has at least one more hit song than I thought she would, but will be chewed up and shat out by the recording industry in the next two years at best anyway. I say let her have her fun while she can, ridiculous image and all.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Doug on January 23, 2009, 04:30:00 PM
I'm so out of it.  I had to google Katy Perry.  Yeah...she's that "Kissed a girl" chick.  Bleargh.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: whigsgeek on January 23, 2009, 07:47:54 PM
You lost me after saying Kelly Clarkson has "huge" hips. Really?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on January 24, 2009, 12:29:16 AM
For a normal person?  No.  For a rock star?  Definitely.  I wouldn't even call it strong child-birthing hips so much as just being well...decidedly pear-shaped.  I mean, it's about proportion.  So even if she's small and cute, it's still a matter of her hips being too wide in comparison.  Look at her face, it's totally a chubby, somewhat doughy albeit extremely cute face.  You can tell she's gonna pack the pounds pretty easily in the upper arms and hips. 

I think she keeps it under control with a good work-out regime and probably some stealthy lipo every now and again, but that's her weak spot.  I defy you to find me a picture of her where she's not wearing dark pants or a skirt or a monotone dress.  You might catch her in some dark jeans, but never trousers, never stripes.  You'll never see her wearing hotpants or a bikini, either.  If you can find a picture of her like that, I bet you'll look at it and go "hmm.... those are wide hips."

I mean, I'm not like hyper-critical or anything.  She could put on 30 pounds and I don't think she'd be unattractive.  She'd just look a little overweight like 90% of the population including myself.  I'm just saying her hips are too wide in a girls-flipping-through-Vanity-Fair kind of way.




Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on January 24, 2009, 03:41:02 PM
Haha! You are an ass.

Don't change.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Fourthisto on January 25, 2009, 10:34:01 AM
He might be a psycho, but at least he's the NICE kind......

JT To The Rescue

James Taylor said he will give a California woman a brand new music player loaded with his songs to replace the one she said she had to give up to a taxi driver when her credit card was declined after a trip to the airport last month.

Natalie Lenhart, 20, said officers at John F. Kennedy International Airport made her give the $140 iPod nano to the driver as payment for the $49 ride from Manhattan on Dec. 8. The driver said he'd return her iPod for the fare.

Lenhart's red iPod was loaded with oldies, including songs by the folk singer. Taylor has written classics such as "You've Got a Friend" and "How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved By You)." Taylor said he might upgrade Lenhart's device to an iPhone.

The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, the agency responsible for police at the airport, said it is investigating.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: bluebastard on January 25, 2009, 07:06:48 PM
James Taylor is a folk singer? Not in this lifetime...

...still a very nice gesture.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on January 25, 2009, 10:42:21 PM
Let's see...a new ipod filled with all of James Taylor's albums or pay $49 to get my old one back?

Where's the nearest bank?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on January 25, 2009, 10:43:08 PM
You could just delete the JT tunes ya know.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on January 26, 2009, 07:57:31 AM
Taylor said he might upgrade Lenhart's device to an iPhone.

Hey, remember how you couldn't pay a cab fare?  Here's a $150/month cell phone bill.  Enjoy!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Fourthisto on January 27, 2009, 01:25:49 PM
Let's see...a new ipod filled with all of James Taylor's albums or pay $49 to get my old one back?

Where's the nearest bank?

Hey, remember how you couldn't pay a cab fare?  Here's a $150/month cell phone bill.  Enjoy!


You guys are nuttier than David Bowie sniffing the back seat of a limo complaining about a fly in his milk! Come on!

You could just delete the JT tunes ya know.

Finally, the voice of reason! ...... coming from you though, it kind of freaks me out. Truly these are the end of days.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: kcneon on January 28, 2009, 11:10:12 AM
Last night I was working at my table, glanced up at my 'memory board' holding a lot of pictures, ticket stubs, etc.  I noticed on stub that said THE KILLERS.

I do not remember this show.  At. All.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: trixi on January 28, 2009, 11:39:14 AM
Last night I was working at my table, glanced up at my 'memory board' holding a lot of pictures, ticket stubs, etc.  I noticed on stub that said THE KILLERS.

I do not remember this show.  At. All.
WoW!  What were you on ;-)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on January 28, 2009, 04:59:49 PM
That drunk huh?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on January 28, 2009, 06:35:49 PM
Ah, yes. I remember the 70s like they were three decades ago.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Hell Toupee on January 29, 2009, 01:35:47 PM
Why is it every time I hear U2's "Get On Your Boots" I immediately transition it into the Escape Club's "Wild Wild West"?

God this song is truly awful.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on January 30, 2009, 02:35:14 PM
Sort of a random music moment...

I didn't realize that there are magnets in headphones until JUST NOW.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on February 04, 2009, 11:20:56 AM
I can't decide what to make of this NASA album.

On the one hand it's a stellar lineup of artists who I think have something interesting about them, but most of whom can grow tiring in large doses (Kanye, David Byrne, Chuck D, Karen O, Spike Jonez, MIA, Tom Waits).  So it seems like this could be awesome.  MIA can come in, give us a 15 second blast of her crazy world-beat stylings, and then go away before she says something stupid.  On the other hand, it seems like it could be a convoluted mess of people who are perhaps too eclectic and hit-or-miss in the first place all mashed together to massively multiply the effect.

So far I think "Money" falls into the latter category. "Spacious Thoughts" kicks all kinds of ass with Kool Keith and Tom Waits somehow meshing perfectly.  "Strange Enough" is pretty good, although it's really an ODB joint and Karen O is reduced to a small B-rate Brassy part.  "The People Tree" is terrible; I just can't believe how far Jurassic Five has fallen. 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Doug on February 04, 2009, 02:00:18 PM
Sort of a random music moment...

I didn't realize that there are magnets in headphones until JUST NOW.
I knew there were, but I didn't realize they affected each other until I tried an experiment.  I had this video game on my PC and I wanted to play it, but I wanted to add better music, so I wore these big headphones connected to my PC, with the sound from the game coming through.  I also wore earbuds connected to my mp3 player, playing my music at the same time.  Bad idea.  The big headphone magnets screwed up the earbuds and made the music sound all weird and distorted.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on February 04, 2009, 02:14:58 PM
hah. So you put the big headphones on OVER the earbuds? 

Whenever I want to listen to music and play a game, I just turn the game sound volume on low and turn off the music option.  I've never seen a game that didn't have the ability to control the sounds emitted like that, but if there were one it would drive me nuts and I would probably end up trying the same sort of makeshift solution.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Doug on February 04, 2009, 02:57:12 PM
hah. So you put the big headphones on OVER the earbuds? 

Whenever I want to listen to music and play a game, I just turn the game sound volume on low and turn off the music option.  I've never seen a game that didn't have the ability to control the sounds emitted like that, but if there were one it would drive me nuts and I would probably end up trying the same sort of makeshift solution.
Yeah, it was an older game...Unreal Tournament.  It supposedly had the capability of playing your mp3s or FLAC files, but I could never get it to work.  What I finally did is what you mentioned...turned off the music, turned the game volume down and ran MusicMatch Jukebox in the background.  It wasn't the best solution, but it was better than the repetetive game music.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Juliana on February 04, 2009, 03:46:06 PM
Am I the only person on teh planet who hates earbuds?
Ugh, they hurt!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on February 04, 2009, 03:48:49 PM
Am I the only person on teh planet who hates earbuds?
Ugh, they hurt!

I just pictured Juliana at work using her gigantic headphones and surfing the internet using Netscape Navigator while Pandora plays some good ol' America, "Horse with No Name".  Am I close?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on February 04, 2009, 03:53:19 PM
Am I the only person on teh planet who hates earbuds?
Ugh, they hurt!
THEY DO HURT! I hate them as well. But, I always forget my comfy earphones at home.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on February 04, 2009, 04:04:15 PM
Am I the only person on teh planet who hates earbuds?
Ugh, they hurt!
I must have mutant ears or something. They simply won't stay in.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Juliana on February 04, 2009, 04:35:14 PM
Am I the only person on teh planet who hates earbuds?
Ugh, they hurt!

I just pictured Juliana at work using her gigantic headphones and surfing the internet using Netscape Navigator while Pandora plays some good ol' America, "Horse with No Name".  Am I close?

Except I use IE, yeah, you're spot on.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Doug on February 04, 2009, 04:52:19 PM
I like earbuds fine for sitting at my desk and woorking.  Not so much for actually moving around with them.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on February 04, 2009, 04:56:01 PM
Earbuds aren't desirable for me, but I've now found a pair that I dig a bit.

Riding the subway = earbuds
Walking around = earbuds
At work = headphones (to quickly throw off when someone's talking to me)

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: va-vacious on February 04, 2009, 06:38:04 PM
I need to get real headphones for work.  I might not even listen to music, but just wear them.  People don't understand that I actually *work* and need to be left along sometimes! (The "hey, let's chat" is getting really bad these days)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on February 05, 2009, 12:01:04 PM
So anyway, the two worlds have collided and this person has been playing MIA ALL FUCKING DAY.  It's like an involuntary torturethon.  And you know what?  She's going to play MIA all day tomorrow, too.  And the day after that.  And the day after that.  Probably until the next time her sister gives her a mixtape which is not going to happen for a long-ass time because the holidays are over. It's horrible.

Wailing Women of Winter '09 mix:

Katy Perry "I Kissed a Girl"
M.I.A. "Paper Planes"
Katy Perry "Hot n Cold"
Kelly Clarkson "Never Again"
Beethoven Symphony 6 (Why?!?  Does she know this is Beethoven?  Is she aware that this is some kind of mangled condensed cutup version and the real symphony is longer than 5 minutes?)
Unknown Kelly Clarkson song
Pink "Sober"
Gwen Stefani "The Sweet Escape"
Unknown M.I.A. "Paper Airplanes" remix hatchet job.  There is no way Diplo or Marlboro or whoever had anything to do with this.  It's terrible.  It's a sped up version with fake "scratching."  The eastern/worldbeat-ish production has been replaced by horrible generic thumpa-thumpa dance beats.
Duffy- Mercy

Here's what annoys me about this mix.  It shows a complete lack of any effort or care on every level.  Katy Perry->M.I.A->Katy Perry?!?  Really?  Clarkson->Beethoven->Clarkson?  Why?

Could the second Kelly Clarkson song not be replaced by maybe Taylor Swift?  How about some Rhianna?  Beyonce?  shit, Miley Cyrus.  The mix is 10 songs.  You can't find 10 artists within the yelling women/dance genre?  Why would you include some bastardized crap-ass version of an M.I.A song that's already in the mix?  How about some "Galang?"

It's just an abomination.  Not because I don't like this sort of music, but because I think someone who DID like this sort or music would probably be even more pissed off about the complete lack of care in assembling this thing.  They would probably no more than 4 artists who sound like this, and they'd draw from that knowledge to create something with more variety, that flows, and just doesn't suck.

There is nothing right with this mix.  And there is nothing right about someone who could listen to this mix and not at least resequence it.  I mean seriously, why even bother to listen to music if you care so little?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: va-vacious on February 05, 2009, 04:37:03 PM
Of those songs I've heard the Gwen Stefani and Duffy ones.  I can't identify any of the others.  (OK, Beethoven, but we're not talking about that here, really)

And yes, there are far more than 4 of these women out there.  Just please no teen pop!  I can't decide who I dislike more, Miley or Taylor Swift.  Annoy, annoy, annoy is all they do for me.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on February 05, 2009, 05:01:19 PM
Anti FABO:  Thank FUCK she finally broke out a new mix this afternoon.

FABO:  Sara Bareilles->Colby Caillet->Madonna non-stop everyday for the next two weeks.

The Madonna btw, is the worst remix of "4 Minutes" ever.  Someone stripped out all the Justin Timberlake vocals out of it.  Then they sped it up, and added tons of reverb and a pseudo-vocoder-y effect to Madonna's vox.  And they replaced Timbaland's stuff with a horrible thumpa-thumpa 90's generic dance beat.  In fact, it might very well be the same beat as the horrible M.I.A. remix.  Why?  Why make those two songs sound exactly the same?  Why not just listen to some old C & C Music Factory CD's instead? 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on February 05, 2009, 05:23:38 PM
Crap, now it's back to the original mix again.  Apparently my coworker changes mixes like a girl changes clothes.  She's got a case of mix bipolar.  Now I'm stuck on a rollercoaster.  Someone get me off this ride.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Juliana on February 05, 2009, 08:51:20 PM
Now I'm stuck on a rollercoaster.

Of love?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on February 06, 2009, 08:24:42 AM
Say what?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on February 06, 2009, 08:36:56 AM
Oooooh-oooooh-ooh
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on February 06, 2009, 10:13:41 AM
Does she give you that funny feeling in your tummy?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on February 06, 2009, 10:37:46 AM
Move over dad cause Im a double dipple
Upside down on the big dip dipper
1,2,1,2,3 I've got a ticket come ride with me
Let me go down on the marry-go-round
All is fair in a big fair ground
Lets go slow. lets go fast
Like a licorice twist gonna whip your ass.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on February 06, 2009, 10:56:06 AM
I would say it is more a case of her making me cranky and pms'ing like a bitch.  I'm all hot then I'm cold. I'm "yes" then I'm "no."  In and then out.  Up and then down. I! I don't really want to stay, no.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Doug on February 06, 2009, 11:26:52 AM
Move over dad cause Im a double dipple
Upside down on the big dip dipper
1,2,1,2,3 I've got a ticket come ride with me
Let me go down on the marry-go-round
All is fair in a big fair ground
Lets go slow. lets go fast
Like a licorice twist gonna whip your ass.
I bet you googled those lyrics.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on February 06, 2009, 11:34:05 AM
Nope, big Ohio Players fan.  I've got all their tapes.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: whigsgeek on February 12, 2009, 08:54:40 PM
Mandy Moore is engaged to Ryan Adams? Or, should I say, Ryan Adams is engaged to Mandy Moore???
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on February 13, 2009, 03:06:56 AM
Mmmmmm, Mandy Moore...
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on February 13, 2009, 07:46:49 AM
I really WANT to hate "Shadow of the Day" by Linkin Park, but every time I skip past it on my XM, I keep coming back to it.  The guy can't even sing, but I still listen to it.

Ugh.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: whigsgeek on February 13, 2009, 08:39:44 AM
Is Trent Reznor dead or something? Our local rock station is on its third NIN song in a row. None were ever singles. I'm starting to worry.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on February 17, 2009, 08:50:31 AM
OH NO!...... Muzak's going broke!! (http://www.thestreet.com/story/10463112/1/muzak-files-for-bankruptcy.html?puc=_tscrss)

If there's ever a company that needs government bailout money, it's this one. My rides in an elevator will never be the same again.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on February 17, 2009, 04:51:30 PM
Drove downtown in the rain
9:30 on a Tuesday night
Just to check out the late night record shop...

MAKE IT GO AWAY!!!!!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on February 17, 2009, 04:58:35 PM
Really? Seeing that written here made me long to hear that track again. I don't think I've heard it in a few years.
 :o

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: vizzah on February 17, 2009, 07:31:09 PM
OH NO!...... Muzak's going broke!! (http://www.thestreet.com/story/10463112/1/muzak-files-for-bankruptcy.html?puc=_tscrss)

If there's ever a company that needs government bailout money, it's this one. My rides in an elevator will never be the same again.

That explains why they refused to let us out of our contract.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on February 17, 2009, 09:16:42 PM
$100-$500 million in debt, with $50,000 assets.  Yeesh.

This will be sad for the artists.  Muzak gave the songwriters a ton of cash when they licensed songs from them.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on February 18, 2009, 07:29:52 AM
The office where I had a meeting yesterday had about 50 knobs/switches on the wall near the conference room door.  One of the knobs was actually labeled "Muzak", and went from 0-10.  I was going to ask if I could put it up to 11, but then I didn't want to be committed, so I just sat there wondering what the Muzak knob was for.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on February 18, 2009, 08:14:32 AM
Really? Seeing that written here made me long to hear that track again. I don't think I've heard it in a few years.
 :o


Ha. Which is why I grabbed the CD the other day. But, now I can't get the song out of my head.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: MissKitty on February 18, 2009, 08:17:59 AM
The chiropractor I used to go to had a Muzak switch on the wall of each room in the office. This would have been in the mid to late 80's. I remember on one visit I was sitting in the therapy room waiting for him to come in and "Papa Don't Preach" came on the Muzak. It was SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO cheesy and the more I sat listening the more annoyed I became. Finally I got up and turned it all the way down. Ahhhhhhhhhh that's better.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on February 18, 2009, 09:43:14 AM
I just sat there wondering what the Muzak knob was for.

I'm not a betting man, but..........
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on February 18, 2009, 11:30:44 AM
I kinda didn't follow a lot of the big alternative new music 80s bands other than a passing interest in what grabbed me on MTV, so I never became familiar with New Order.
Now when I hear 'em, I keep thinking about all the cheesy coming-of-age 80s movies with soundtracks that mimicked the New Order sound.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on February 18, 2009, 02:33:55 PM
Dear Lord... I am on hold with our corporate travel agency, have been for some time.  Not only do I have to peeeeee like crazy but I have to listen to Muzak too.  Right now it's a really jazzy sax version of Crocodile Rock.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Fourthisto on February 18, 2009, 02:40:17 PM
This thread has become "Random Muzak Thoughts", eh? I'll chime in, then.

Quote from: Butter
I just sat there wondering what the Muzak knob was for.

Muzak Knob is a GREAT band name. Can you play drums?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on February 18, 2009, 02:49:48 PM
Muzak Knob is a GREAT band name. Can you play drums?

No, but I can turn a mean knob.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on February 18, 2009, 02:53:59 PM
I've heard you're pretty good at playing with your knob.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Fourthisto on February 18, 2009, 03:03:10 PM
I've heard you're pretty good at playing with your knob.

BLfwl9QP294
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on February 19, 2009, 11:32:24 AM
If anyone is interested, the following albums are available for dirt cheap on Amazon:

Morrisey- Years of Refusal  $3.99
Lily Allen- It's Not Me, It's You $3.99


Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on February 27, 2009, 10:29:46 AM
Is it lame of me to say I love the new(ish) Eminem single "Crack a Bottle"?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: vizzah on February 27, 2009, 10:34:56 AM
Is it lame of me to say I love the new(ish) Eminem single "Crack a Bottle"?

I don't think so.  I think he's a decent enough lyricist to save you from 100% embarrassment.

I've said this before, but I'll reiterate.  I don't think there is such a thing as a guilty pleasure.  If you dig it, who cares?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on February 27, 2009, 10:51:21 AM
I've noticed that what passes for reggae music these days is really nothing more than monotonous rapping.

Monotonous rapping. Is that redundant?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Hell Toupee on March 01, 2009, 04:29:05 AM
(http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2444/40/38/671103199/n671103199_2157284_78003.jpg)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on March 01, 2009, 12:38:36 PM
Hmmm... interesting.
Maybe I'll sell off all my CDs before this gets seen by the whole damn internet...  :P
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on March 05, 2009, 10:58:45 AM
Listening to Led Zeppelin's Your Time Is Gonna Come within the context of the show it's on here on XM, I'm hearing it almost as if I'd not heard it waaay too many times over the years. Kinda gives me that feeling I had the first time I heard the album. Hard to place a label on these guys when they first hit the scene. Hard rock? Metal? Blues? Folk? Of course, now they're so played out no one really cares any more.
This song is hard to genrefy. (Did I make a new word?) It's part soul, part acoustic folk, a little country-ish, and a little straight-up hard rock.
Weird. I've heard it literally thousands of times, but when placed like it was in the program, it kinda gave me chills.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on March 06, 2009, 09:30:42 AM
Reading Butter's Internet music thread reminded me to dig out that Spiderbait CD. I forgot how good this thing was. Noisy, kinda punkish with a typical Australian rock band's tendency to channel American Blues.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on March 06, 2009, 09:32:11 AM
I really like the All Songs Considered podcast.  I skip a lot of the songs but there are many that have me running for a pencil and paper.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: va-vacious on March 07, 2009, 12:08:53 PM
The last two concerts I attended had pitiful crowd response at the end of the show- as in people didn't clap or cheer at all.  Has this become the norm?  (I don't get to shows very often: last night and November are these two concerts) Naturally, there was no encore.  And I think the performers were right to do so, too.

But at the symphony, even the local volunteer one, people standing ovation for everything.  And in that situation there is no way there is going to be an encore. 

Bizarre.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on March 09, 2009, 10:27:10 AM
Is that the norm? No.
But it's not unheard of.

I do think it's become very formulaic and there are many times when I don't feel like applauding much during the "encore break" because it's obvious that the band has saved about 3 or 4 of their top songs for the encore. I'm like - why even go through the motions? Just say "hey all, this is where we go off the stage pretending that we're done when everyone knows we're not and then you all cheer pretending to encourage us to come back on stage for some bonus when we know we're coming back anyway. We'll save you all the effort and just keep playing now."


Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on March 09, 2009, 11:32:28 AM
Yes, the whole encore cliche is quite played out by now, is it not?
Reminds me of the whole confusion at Southgate House at the Twilight Singers' show a couple years back. The crowd kinda cheered, and the lights came up right away. Then they went dim-ish, then came back up again. Everyone was standing around like "WTF"? We didn't know whether to cheer and stroke fat Greg's ego or leave.
Meh. Take a breather, sip a drink, catch your breath, then play the last three songs already. I'm tired of being Pavlov's dog at concerts.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on March 09, 2009, 12:18:26 PM
I think if I was a musician, I wouldn't do the whole "wait 15 minutes thing" but yeah, you'd have clap for an encore.

I mean, it's not like I'd be mad about it or it's an ego thing.  It's just like if you have places to go and don't want to hear another three songs that's fine with me.  I got places to go to so let's just call this thing early.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on March 09, 2009, 06:18:31 PM
Yup, people are tired of clapping for 10 minutes straight when everyone knows they're coming back.  It's not just Ohio where this is happening.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on March 09, 2009, 06:44:08 PM
But here, there's more response after the symphony, when the audience knows there isn't going to be an encore, than there is at rock/pop shows. There's just something not right about that - especially given the median age of the audience at the different concerts.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on March 09, 2009, 10:29:11 PM
Maybe it's about quality, then.  Or the fact that people go to fewer symphonies than rock shows in a year.  The typical audience member at a symphony maybe only goes a few times a year, while the rock show people are out a few times a week.  Maybe people are just tired of giving props to mediocre bands who really don't deserve an encore to begin with.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on March 09, 2009, 10:33:41 PM
I realized today that "La Pump" by Smoosh is a really good stripper song.  Good God, that's wrong.

I've never heard anyone dance to "Ace of Spades."  Believe me, I would have remembered.  That's crazy.  How can you be a stripper and NOT choose "Ace of Spades?!?"  I've heard strippers dance to Ace of BASE, and not Ace of Spades.

You know what else is a good song to strip to?  Disco 2000.  Is there nothing that song can't do?

Surprisingly un-strip club worthy:  Spoon.  They've got that slithery funk groove down... but there's kind of not enough going on there.  Like "I Turn My Camera On" seems perfect, but it never goes anywhere.  It's just kind of "dunh dunh dunh dunh dunh" the whole song.

Surprisingly strip club worthy:  Girls, Girls, Girls.  It's not just the title or the lyrics.  You listen to this it's got the great motorcycle riff to get it started.  It's also got a bit a variation to it.  You've got the chorus, the verse, and the bridge.  All different, but all great stripper parts in their own way.  Motley Crue put a lot more thought into this than I thought.  I've realized it's justifiably a classic.

Surprisingly un-strip club worthy, part II:  Round and Round.  I love Ratt, don't get me wrong.  But this song doesn't go anywhere.  The verse is pretty much like "I Turn My Camera On" just "dunh dunh dunh" with the bass the whole time.  The chorus is nice, but overall it just seems to be lacking that oomph.  Also, "Pour Some Sugar On Me" remains a poor song to strip to, or to do anything to, including listen.




Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on March 09, 2009, 10:40:16 PM
Ace Of Spades is a little fast to strip to.  Maybe not if...YOU'RE ON CRACK!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on March 09, 2009, 10:41:09 PM
You are so wrong.  So, so wrong.  Just for that, I'm putting it on my list.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on March 09, 2009, 10:54:32 PM
The power ballad of strip clubs.  I really think that's the Holy Grail.  Been searching all my music for something and just can't find it.

btw, I've been taking notes on this notepad, and I have close to fifteen pages filled with songs and ideas.  I could fill at least 5 blog entries.  It's gotten to the point where every song I hear now I'm immediately like "How would this work out in a strip club?"

One thing I've discovered is that pretty much any song that's fun to dance to will work.  I think there's actually a whole lot of indie-ish songs you could play at a strip club.  But I need the five BEST songs.  It's hard.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on March 10, 2009, 08:12:57 AM
strip club
It's hard.

Heh, heh.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on March 10, 2009, 10:18:36 AM
I've been telling everyone that the new Yeah Yeah Yeahs album is going to be this generation's "OK Computer."  I just finished listening to the album.  I think they did it, or if they didn't they didn't miss it by much.

Scarily, they still haven't hit their potential, and you can hear all sorts of bits on this song that hint at yet another change in direction.  Unfortunately, that change could end being something weird, which is kind of what happens a lot when creativity hits its peak.

Therefore, I am predicting that the next Yeah Yeah Yeahs album will be this generation's Kid A.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: vizzah on March 10, 2009, 10:41:05 AM
RVA, why exactly are you compiling the best strip club songs? 

I may or may not have some insight on this.  I'm just curious for the reasoning.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on March 10, 2009, 11:12:38 AM
Because I hate the music they play at strip clubs.  For the most part it's 80's hair metal along with the 10 most annoying and vulgar hip-hop songs of the moment.  It bothered me so much that I convinced JR that we should do an article about improving the songs played at strip clubs.

Now I have to come up with 5 song suggestions for the piece.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: vizzah on March 10, 2009, 01:31:09 PM
I've seen many a girl dance to "Laid" by James, and it works surprisingly well. 
About a year or so ago, before M.I.A.'s "Paper planes" was all over the radio, it was totally my summer jam.  My friend and I went to a strip club when he came home for a visit and the best looking girl in the place danced to that.  Just for picking such a good song, we made it rain.  Ahhhh, memories.

Songs I may not have necessarily witnessed a stripper dancing to, but I think would be fantastic:
The Cult - Fire Woman
Murder City Devils - Boom Swagger Boom
Har Mar Superstar-  Bird In the Hand
Aretha Franklin - The Right Time
Lo Fidelity All Stars w/Fat Greg - Somebody Needs You

And for the record, "Ace of Spades" is NOT too fast, if the girl has really sweet pole moves.  If she's just kind of writing around and avoiding the pole, it wouldn't work.  It *always* makes action scenes 100 times more kick ass, though.

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on March 10, 2009, 01:55:38 PM
Alright! Now THIS is a music discussion! I've actually recently thought about making a stripper mix. A few friends and I will be visiting a certain establishment as a part of my 30th birthday celebration and I was contemplating bringing a mix CD and trying to get the club to play it. Do you think they would go for that? Or do you think the strippers would insist on going with "their" music? I'm not sure how that goes though. Does the owner decide on the music or do the strippers? These are important things I need to know!

I was thinking "Do Ya Think I'm Sexy" by RevCo would be a good stripper song.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on March 10, 2009, 02:01:03 PM
I had "She Sells Sanctuary" on my list, and I can't recall hearing it at a club, but I decided that a lot of clubs must still already using it.  I agree M.I.A. is pretty much tailor made for this stuff, and should really be included.  The thing is I personally can't stand M.I.A. so I'm trying hard not to go there.

I've broken down strip moves into several components, all of which require different things:

1)  Sexy strut/tease-- This is usually the intro. to the song.  You need something with a lot of energy, but not too fast .  The strut or tease needs to be done somewhat slowly to be sexy.

2)  Pole time-- You generally need this part to be pretty fast.  Because it's kinda hard to swing or spin slowly around a pole.  I think there's actually a strong element of people enjoying the pole not just because of the sexual connotations, but it's actually kind of gymnastic and fun to watch.

3)  Floor time--  You got too options here, I think.  If you go with a fast beat, it's good for booty shakin'.  Slow it down a little and it's good for tumbling/writhing.

4)  Crawl around on the floor, get some money--  It's nice to have a slow, quiet part which allows the dancer to make deep eye-contact with the patrons.  Watching pole moves might be more entertaining if you aren't particularly into the chick, but the slow crawl/eye contact is really what gets you to spring for the lap dance.  

5) whimsy-- I think it's nice if the song has something playful.  It's nice when the dancer seems like she's having fun and maybe has a little personality.  Otherwise you get burnt out and it starts feeling like work for both sides.  You're just staring at parts trying to figure out how much money you got left and who gets it, and they're just endlessly grinding and booty-shaking.  Perfect example of a fun/whimsical song to me is "Leave Your Hat On."  "Laid" scores strongly in this category as well.

There are very few songs that have more than 2 of these elements.  
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on March 10, 2009, 02:11:04 PM
Does the owner decide on the music or do the strippers? These are important things I need to know.

I researched this.  The usual practice is that each stripper brings in a list of songs she wants.  Then the DJ manages the playlist as best they can.  You can't have Misty come out on the main stage to her fave song, and then two minutes later Passion comes on and wants the same song.  But you could wait until Misty, Passion, and Candy are all on the floor somewhere at the same time and play it once. 

It's actually a pretty tough job.  A lot harder than I would have thought.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on March 10, 2009, 07:47:39 PM
Do you think industrial-like music
I had "She Sells Sanctuary" on my list, and I can't recall hearing it at a club, but I decided that a lot of clubs must still already using it.

*listening now* Huh, you are right. That IS a good stripper song!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on March 10, 2009, 10:30:48 PM
This is like, the greatest bar game ever. 

I ran it by some peeps at the bar, and within half an hour the bartender was on the iPod playing songs and soliciting votes.  It has also spawned the spin-offs "Strip club song, or WWE entrance music?" It's a fine line on the one hand, but also one that no one wants to see crossed.  Also "Worst Strip Club Song."*

My favorite is "Main or champagne?"  See, because I would definitely not want to hear Portishead or Mazzy Star in the main room, but I would *totally* want them for a lap dance..

A friend of mine held out for Cure's "Spiderman."  One of the servers insisted she could make a lot of money dancing to Breeders' "One Divine Hammer" or Pixies' "Gigantic."  And some dude I didn't know was adamant that Pavement's "Cut Your Hair" would work.  "Cut Your Hair?!?" 

As I was walking down the street, some dude came running out of the bar and thrust a cell phone to my ear.  All I heard was "WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU WANT?!?"  I looked at the guy, and all he said was "I guess she won't be giving you any song suggestions tonight."  I have no idea who was on the other end of the line.  And then there's a bunch of generic songs that everyone can agree work, but that don't have the quite the cutting edge to put them in that "top 5" group.  These generally end up falling into the industrial/hard rock category, eg. G N' R, Alice in Chains, NiN, Prodigy, Front 242, Pantera, Cult.

The thing I have realized is it's not about the song... and yet it is.  There's no magic formula like "Play song X, everyone goes nuts." It's too personal.  But the flip side of that is if you match the right song with the right woman and dude, almost everyone would be willing to pay double or more for it.  It seems there's a crap-ton of money to be made if clubs let patrons bring their own mp3 and charge them $50 for a private lap dance to that song.

I find it interesting that a rather cynical exercise actually ends up kind of vindicating the majesty of song and art.  Do I think "Gigantic" is a good strip song?  Hell, no.  Would I pay lots of money to see a really good looking server dance to it, knowing she chose it personally and it's her favorite song?  Hell, yeah.  And I'm sure that weird dude would kick in some good money to get a lap dance to "Cut Your Hair," and it would be totally worth it.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on March 11, 2009, 03:50:50 PM
I'd mentioned 'em before in this thread, but upon just hearing New Order, I've decided that the 80s weren't really all that good.
Maybe I'm missing some deep New Order tracks and judging just what I hear on woxy and XM (not to mention bashing an entire decade based upon the sound of one band), but I can't get past that vox drum or whatever mechanical repeating percussion device that is. Makes me wanna kick puppies.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on March 11, 2009, 04:03:42 PM
There's a couple New Order songs I really like, but I could easily see why someone wouldn't dig them.  It's a lot of purposely disaffected vocals over corny drum beats. 

I actually think New Order is a lot better than Joy Division.  I mean, I have good feelings about "Love Will Tear Us Apart" and "She's Lost Control" just from nostalgia.  But no way could I sit down and listen to Unknown Pleasures all the way through.  Same thing with Bauhaus.  And I'll reach back into the 70's and add Kraftwerk and Neu! to the mix.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: redbobsled on March 11, 2009, 06:07:51 PM
I've been having a lot of thoughts about Andrew Bird lately..... and they are not all musical in nature.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: kcneon on March 11, 2009, 06:16:31 PM
In a parallel universe would U2 have sold more albums by performing on AI as opposed to Letterman?


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on the 80s/NO discussion above, yeah...80s is sort of an acquired taste.  I've noticed in the last few months I'm more attached to 90s music than I've been willing to admit.

rva, don't you ever need a little Goth to invigorate the soul?  Sometimes I just crave a little Bauhaus!  But that's just me.   ;)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on March 11, 2009, 07:23:08 PM
on the 80s/NO discussion above, yeah...80s is sort of an acquired taste.  I've noticed in the last few months I'm more attached to 90s music than I've been willing to admit

The 90s are slowly becoming the new 80s. Everybody was on an 80s music kick for a while. Some still are, but it's mostly passed. People are starting to ask for more 90s music at my gigs. When I run karaoke shows, I notice a lot of 90s rock getting done (Everclear, Pearl Jam, Live, Sponge, Tonic, etc.) When people get on these kicks, it just makes my job that much easier.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on March 11, 2009, 08:34:49 PM
rva, don't you ever need a little Goth to invigorate the soul?  Sometimes I just crave a little Bauhaus!  But that's just me.   ;)

I'm more of an early 80's hardcore guy, and even at the time I found the whole Goth movement a little silly.  But yeah, sure.  I'll throw on Bela Lugosi's Dead now and again.  I'm just saying I don't need to hear a whole Bauhaus album.  And I can totally understand why someone who didn't listen to that at the time thinks it's crap.  My desire to hear it is rooted more in nostalgia than it is pure quality.

In contrast, I can put on some hair metal and while I feel it was severely over-rated, I can still see that Warren DeMartini was a great player, and why people liked it.. just not that much.  I really can't say the same for Bauhaus or Joy Division.  New Order and Love and Rockets, perhaps.  But not Bauhaus.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on March 11, 2009, 08:52:52 PM
I like 80s music but I HATE hair metal. Can't stand it.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on March 12, 2009, 07:37:46 AM
You know, in the 70s I really liked Rick Wakeman, Keith Emerson, and Chick Corea, so you'd think I'd get into Krautrock like Kraftwerk and Neu! I dunno, maybe it's the mechanical repetive nature of using technology instead of musicians to create the loops that gets to me. Too... robotic. That goes for a lot of remixes as well. If the music's being played by musicians and has an occasional change or even a mistake, I can dig it. But the utter perfection of mechanical means in reproducing sometimes music turns me off.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on March 12, 2009, 08:14:11 AM
I heard Heartless Bastards on XM this morning: The Mountain from their new one. I guess the critical acclaim is getting 'em noticed. It's the first time I've heard HB on satellite. With Wussy's new release and the upcoming Bad Veins album, maybe Cincinnati music can start making a bigger dent. If I hear either of them on satellite, I'm hopeful.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: cuddlyevil on March 12, 2009, 09:13:47 AM
John Tesh is an "inspirational" artist now?  ???
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: mik on March 12, 2009, 10:42:14 AM
I heard Heartless Bastards on XM this morning: The Mountain from their new one. I guess the critical acclaim is getting 'em noticed. It's the first time I've heard HB on satellite. With Wussy's new release and the upcoming Bad Veins album, maybe Cincinnati music can start making a bigger dent. If I hear either of them on satellite, I'm hopeful.

I've heard them played several times recently on XMU. XMU does still suck though..............
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on March 12, 2009, 11:04:44 AM
I heard Heartless Bastards on XM this morning: The Mountain from their new one. I guess the critical acclaim is getting 'em noticed. It's the first time I've heard HB on satellite. With Wussy's new release and the upcoming Bad Veins album, maybe Cincinnati music can start making a bigger dent. If I hear either of them on satellite, I'm hopeful.

I've heard them played several times recently on XMU. XMU does still suck though..............
Well, they do since the merger any way. They were pretty good pre-11/12.
I'd love to hear some more local bands on satellite.
Now, off to Slacker for some requests.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on March 12, 2009, 11:15:51 AM
I heard Heartless Bastards on XM this morning: The Mountain from their new one. I guess the critical acclaim is getting 'em noticed. It's the first time I've heard HB on satellite. With Wussy's new release and the upcoming Bad Veins album, maybe Cincinnati music can start making a bigger dent. If I hear either of them on satellite, I'm hopeful.

You do know Heartless Bastards played on Letterman a few weeks back, right?

71mt0FcgGI8
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on March 12, 2009, 11:25:38 AM
Ah, yes, I remember hearing they would be on there. Haven't watched it though.
Is that a video attached?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on March 12, 2009, 11:33:02 AM
Yep.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on March 12, 2009, 11:41:19 AM
Ah, gotta get home to see that.
Thanks.


On another note, My Morning Jacket's Highly Suspicious gets me all chair-dancey here at work.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: mik on March 13, 2009, 11:29:24 AM
I had to suffer through 2 days of listening to WEBN this week. We had new carpet installed in the house and the crew asked to listen to the radio. Without even thinking I said "sure, WEBN I assume?" How many times can you hear "Janie's Got a Gun" and not go frickin' mad????!?!!?!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: va-vacious on March 13, 2009, 06:05:51 PM
How many times can you hear "Janie's Got a Gun" and not go frickin' mad????!?!!?!

Do I hear a torturethon song here?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on March 14, 2009, 11:31:13 AM
I heard Bad Veins on XM's XMU this morning on the way home from the Northside Tavern Wussy show.
XMU is doing a SXSW preview weekend. First time I'd heard BV on radio outside of woxy.
Now, to get a request in for some Wussy airplay...
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: mik on March 19, 2009, 09:55:45 AM
Do I hear a torturethon song here?
I couldn't do it, no way. It would end with "mik's got a gun".........
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on March 19, 2009, 11:08:37 AM
I heard Bad Veins on XM's XMU this morning on the way home from the Northside Tavern Wussy show.

Of all the local bands to get a break why'd it have to be those jerks?  I saw them once and kind of liked their music but knowing them on a personal level I hate to see them prevail cause they're a-holes, Ben and the other guy are anyway I hear the drummer is an okay guy.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on March 19, 2009, 11:56:11 AM
I think I was introduced once, I don't remember, but it seems Ben is pretty approachable. I've spoken to him in passing a couple times. He does have his circle of hipsters, but I never detected a bad vibe.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on March 19, 2009, 01:58:44 PM
I was commenting more on their general attitude.  Like now that they're signed they show up to shows 5 minutes before their slot, take they're time setting up, play longer than they're allotted and leave without supporting the other bands.

I also take exception to the fact that they couldn't even perform live without having most of it pre-recorded.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on March 20, 2009, 10:30:24 AM
(http://pictureisunrelated.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/wtf_pics-musical-monstrosit.jpg)
Moby's let himself go hasn't he?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: whigsgeek on March 20, 2009, 04:30:17 PM
From Reznor and Navarro via twitter: NIN|JA 2009 website is live, features 6-song EP of TR-produced JA tracks, Street Sweeper tracks, rare NIN studio tracks. http://bit.ly/16DHR
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on March 20, 2009, 06:43:55 PM
Wait a minute, are NIN and Janes Addiction touring this summer? Sweet jeeebus, I haven't been to a concert in forever, but I'd pay to see that.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: whigsgeek on March 20, 2009, 07:16:19 PM
Hell yes, brother, on the NINJA Tour! All original JA members reunited for tour. Tom Morello's new band also on the bill.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on March 21, 2009, 03:45:11 AM
Well, then I reiterate...

Sweet jeeebus, I haven't been to a concert in forever, but I'd pay to see that.

I haven't heard anything from Morello's new band, but I really dig Zack de la Rocha's band One Day As a Lion. Of course Rage would make that tour an unbeatable triple threat...
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on March 21, 2009, 05:54:33 PM
They're not coming to Ohio, apparently.  Clarksville, IN close?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on March 21, 2009, 10:51:34 PM
They're not coming to Ohio, apparently.  Clarksville, IN close?

That's Louisville... so a 2 hour drive from Cincy.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: matt on March 21, 2009, 11:05:09 PM
Hell yes, brother, on the NINJA Tour! All original JA members reunited for tour. Tom Morello's new band also on the bill.
I d/l'ed this the other day, but didn't realize Stree Sweeper was Morello's new band.  Interesting.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on March 22, 2009, 02:18:59 AM
I'll have to check the dates, but I can just about guarantee whenever the tour is within a couple hours of here, I'll be working.

**EDIT**

ATL on May 10th looks possible...
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: whigsgeek on March 22, 2009, 10:34:36 AM
I'll be at the Pittsburgh show in June, Scott. Let me know if you head to that one. :)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on March 22, 2009, 01:04:15 PM
Didn't see a Pittsburgh date. Is that Burgettstown? If so, I'll be in the Bahamas for that one.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on March 24, 2009, 11:15:32 AM
The new Doves album.  REALLY good.  And I usually don't like albums that much after 1 listen, even ones by bands I usually like.  "Compulsion" and "The Outsiders" are 2 particularly stand-out songs.  They've pretty much ditched the dark atmospherics and the showy instrumentals for this album, and tried to make a mid-tempo rock record.  Works.  There's a slow one in there I'm not a big fan of, but they have one of those every album.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on March 24, 2009, 11:24:50 AM
Where'd you get that?  I want to hear it.

I'm surprised you picked it up that fast Buttman.  I've loved all of their albums but they all had to grow on me, I didn't love any of them at first listen.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on March 24, 2009, 03:12:48 PM
I really dug the Doves song "Catch the Sun" so somebody (wish I could remember who, but I'm thinking maybe it was someone from the boards?) either bought or gave me that disc. I listened to it about ten times and just couldn't get into any other song than the one I liked already. I've kinda written them off ever since, which I know is probably unfair.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on March 24, 2009, 03:20:25 PM
Lost Souls would not be the disc to base their career on Scott.  Actually, I said I love all their stuff, but I don't really like Lost Souls except for Catch the Sun, which is one of the great rock songs of the decade in my book.  Catch the Sun though, is also not particularly representative of their sound. 

Last Broadcast would be a far better disc for you to evaluate them with.  I'll hook you up if we do poker again.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on March 24, 2009, 03:40:32 PM
YOU ARE BOTH HIGH ON CRACK.

Lost Souls is littered with classics... I think it's their finest album, and one of the finest of the 2000's.  The new one is good, but it's not at that level.

Here It Comes, The Cedar Room, Catch the Sun... they were operating at a high level on that whole album.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on March 24, 2009, 04:26:00 PM
I sold the disc ages ago, so I can't exactly go back and listen now to see if it could grow on me. 'Course, my ears have been so tuned to Flo Rida and Britney the last couple years, I don't know if I could even handle real music right now...
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jonathan on March 24, 2009, 06:49:48 PM
YOU ARE BOTH HIGH ON CRACK.

Lost Souls is littered with classics... I think it's their finest album, and one of the finest of the 2000's.  The new one is good, but it's not at that level.

Here It Comes, The Cedar Room, Catch the Sun... they were operating at a high level on that whole album.

If I had to choose, I'd go with Last Broadcast. But I enjoy Lost Souls quite a bit. Maybe not as much as Butter, but apparently more than Kwyj.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on March 24, 2009, 07:54:21 PM
So back to stripper songs... Do you think "Supermassive Black Hole" by Muse would work? Would any Morphine songs work?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on March 24, 2009, 08:43:41 PM
So back to stripper songs... Do you think "Supermassive Black Hole" by Muse would work?

Funny you should mention that. ;)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: JohnnyRoyale on March 25, 2009, 12:58:50 AM
Funny you should mention that. ;)

Yup, that will get wrapped up this weekend, then probably posted the week after. A little bird told me that a stripper is digging Ghostland right now....

Oh, and I saw Morello's Street Sweeper deal un-officially when Boots Riley jammed with him at their show last fall. They are in town tonight, but I passed because I've seen Tom 3 times in 2 years now. I recommend this project though.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: JohnnyRoyale on March 25, 2009, 12:59:45 AM
Today I realized that "Live Wire" by AC/DC is a perfect song to listen to when you're just leaving work on a Friday afternoon.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on March 25, 2009, 01:49:50 AM
'Cure For Pain' might work as a druggy stripper tune.  Or maybe 'Thursday' because of the lyrical content.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jonathan on March 25, 2009, 09:48:38 AM
What about "Buena"?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: va-vacious on March 25, 2009, 08:48:40 PM
I was thinking :cure for POain" would be a good choice.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: JohnnyRoyale on March 25, 2009, 09:46:14 PM
Yup, that will get wrapped up this weekend, then probably posted the week after. A little bird told me that a stripper is digging Ghostland right now....

Oh, and I saw Morello's Street Sweeper deal un-officially when Boots Riley jammed with him at their show last fall. They are in town tonight, but I passed because I've seen Tom 3 times in 2 years now. I recommend this project though.

The ONE time I skip out on Morello and it was a monumental night!!!    >:(               >:(

Jamming with memebers of Soundgarden, Mudhoney and more...

http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/reverb/2009/03/last_night_tadgarden_nightwatc.php
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on March 26, 2009, 03:17:54 PM
I have this very specific irrational hatred of two bassists, but only when they appear in the following two videos:

Parson Steinberger of the Beardo Cape

-gYBvSx_wCA


and

WYN74ZW4k_E

I don't think I can even elucidate why the Counting Crows bassist just elicits an almost reflex reaction of hostility.  I think it's because he has a goatee, floppy hair and is short.  Bass players need to be taller than their instrument. 

Outside of these two videos, I am completely ambivalent about them.

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: va-vacious on March 26, 2009, 10:07:32 PM
Our local radio station played two Chris Isaak songs today - the new one, and San Francisco Days. I haven't heard him in years, and I've missed him.

And does Depeche Mode have new stuff out too?  The hard rock/alternative station played one today that I'd never heard before, but that doesn't mean anything.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on March 26, 2009, 10:56:01 PM
We saw Chris Isaak live a few years ago... it was awesome.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: trixi on March 26, 2009, 11:56:12 PM

And does Depeche Mode have new stuff out too?  The hard rock/alternative station played one today that I'd never heard before, but that doesn't mean anything.
Yes.  It's called Wrong.  The new album comes out in a few weeks.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on March 27, 2009, 02:20:26 AM
I posted the frightening video of 'Wrong' in the Best Videos of 2009 thread.  ;)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on March 27, 2009, 07:52:19 AM
I hear Chris Isaak all the time on Slacker's Americana station.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: va-vacious on March 27, 2009, 03:39:09 PM
I would love to see Chris Isaak live- I think it would be awesome.  I'm going to have to look up that video, Nate. :) 

Trixi, thanks for the DP update. Clearly, I'm out of the loop.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: trixi on March 27, 2009, 11:34:15 PM
I posted the frightening video of 'Wrong' in the Best Videos of 2009 thread.  ;)
It's quite a concept video.  Very freaky, especially the first time watching it. 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on March 28, 2009, 05:30:17 PM
What about "Buena"?

Hmmmm, it is nice and slinky.

I am currently deliberating what Goldfrapp song would be best for stripping. Lyrically "Twist" would work well, but might not be the best musically.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on March 28, 2009, 09:22:22 PM
OK here is my preliminary stripper playlist...

01. Muse - Supermassive Black Hole (3:29)
02. Revolting Cocks - Do Ya Think I'm Sexy (5:34)
03. The Jesus And Mary Chain - Reverence (3:40)
04. Cibo Matto - Butterfucker (3:29)
05. Massive Attack - Inertia Creeps (5:57)
06. The Black Angels - Manipulation (5:49)
07. Black Rebel Motorcycle Club - 666 Conducer (4:01)
08. PJ Harvey - Long Snake Moan (5:15)
09. The White Stripes - Ball And Biscuit (7:19)
10. The Stone Roses - Driving South (5:09)
11. Primal Scream - Rocks (3:34)
12. The Presets - Yippiyo-Ay (4:34)
13. Goldfrapp - Twist (3:32)
14. Goldfrapp - Ride A White Horse (4:41)
15. Space - Female of the Species (3:20)

I can't decide between those two Goldfrapp songs so they are both on there. And I'm not really sure how well that Stone Roses song would work. I think a couple songs on the list might be a little too fast too.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: JohnnyRoyale on March 29, 2009, 12:30:28 AM
Well, we have a stripper song story coming out soon and out of your list we also chose 5 of the same artists, though you only chose one song as the same with us.

That's all for now     ;)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on March 29, 2009, 09:44:35 PM
Well, we have a stripper song story coming out soon and out of your list we also chose 5 of the same artists, though you only chose one song as the same with us.

That's all for now     ;)

Can't wait to see the list.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on April 03, 2009, 12:19:29 PM
She could initial mine (http://www.jam.canoe.ca/Music/2009/04/01/8962781-wenn.html)

...then add the rest a few moments later?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on April 03, 2009, 01:27:29 PM
That's the kind of thing that, if you were embarrassed about saying it, as she says she was, then you wouldn't say it.  Clearly an attention grab, probably never happened.

That song of hers is crap.  Worse than Katy Perry, and that's saying a hell of a lot.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: va-vacious on April 05, 2009, 08:11:58 PM
Lucky me! (?) I've been selected to be an Arbitron listener for the next week or so. (Starting on Thursday)  And internet stations are included on the survey.  I wonder if I could find a good one...

Of course, this is the weekend that I'm going to be away for a while, but I'll still have fun with it.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on April 07, 2009, 06:03:21 PM
Dear Martin Gore,

There are man reasons why a man would hate another man.  In my estimation, the biggest factors would involve some combination of money, power, greed, love and/or irrationality.  Most often the emotion of hate stems from latent insecurity tied to previously stated reasons by which hate can give a person some degree of comfort.  In difficult economic times, for example, people will seek out scapegoats, on whom they may deflect any blame.  They do this not only to reinforce personal emotional security, but also to distance themselves from certain actions they took which may have led to said economic hardship.  In recent times, illegal immigrants from Mexico have been targeted, although history is rife with examples.

But not all hate is based on rationalized emotion.  Hate can also develop through negative actions perpetrated on to one's self or on someone or something that person holds dear.  A cheating spouse, arson of a beloved childhood home or avunculicide would all be justifiable reasons to hate the person or person involved. 

Hate, in most cultures, is not an acceptable emotional response.  Organized religion, social groups and generations of reggae musicians have all decried the expression of hatred as both injurious to social and self.  Because of this, all but the most self-actualized of us, suppress these feelings until they morph into resentment.  These emotions will stay in one's subconscious, occasionally bubbling to the surface in often an over-reactionary, violent and sociopathic manner. 

I hope this helps in your quest for understanding.  If I can be of further help, please do not hesitate to ask.

Best regards,
F. Gold
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on April 15, 2009, 03:57:40 PM
I really want to hate The Decemberists.  Their schtick gets old and irksome.  Then along comes a song like "The Wanting Comes in Waves / Repaid", and I can't help but forget about their little period obsession and just enjoy the music.

Bastards.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on April 15, 2009, 04:12:06 PM
That's alright butter.  I've got plenty of hate for both of us.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: clemsonfan on April 15, 2009, 04:59:55 PM
That's alright butter.  I've got plenty of hate for both of us.

Ditto.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jonathan on April 15, 2009, 09:11:28 PM
I really want to hate The Decemberists.  Their schtick gets old and irksome.  Then along comes a song like "The Wanting Comes in Waves / Repaid", and I can't help but forget about their little period obsession and just enjoy the music.

Bastards.

I want to hate them, too. I worked through it by hating Death Cab for Cutie instead.

Ben Gibbard is the same kind of one-trick pony as Colin Meloy, but with a more irritating voice.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on April 16, 2009, 06:55:24 AM
I want to hate them, too. I worked through it by hating Death Cab for Cutie instead.

Ben Gibbard is the same kind of one-trick pony as Colin Meloy, but with a more irritating voice.

Yeah, but at least Gibbard's songs aren't all about pirates, rogues, and scoundrels from the 18th century.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on April 16, 2009, 08:23:25 AM
I liked the song about Valerie Plame, but otherwise I find them boring as hell.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jonathan on April 16, 2009, 11:19:37 AM
I want to hate them, too. I worked through it by hating Death Cab for Cutie instead.

Ben Gibbard is the same kind of one-trick pony as Colin Meloy, but with a more irritating voice.

Yeah, but at least Gibbard's songs aren't all about pirates, rogues, and scoundrels from the 18th century.

What about scalawags? Don't forget the scalawags.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on April 16, 2009, 11:25:27 AM
I may have mentioned it a time or three, but I think Meloy would make a better metal songwriter.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on April 17, 2009, 04:31:46 PM
I neither hate nor love Gibbard and Meloy. I like a few of their songs, but I'm mostly indifferent to them both. They usually make ok background music though.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on April 21, 2009, 01:08:39 AM
That Decemberists album might be one of the best of 2009, and I hated that band before now.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jonathan on April 21, 2009, 08:07:46 AM
Oh boy did you hate the Decembrists. You about jumped off a bridge when Picaresque came in at No. 1.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on April 22, 2009, 01:20:16 AM
It's still the biggest upset the EOY thread has ever seen. 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jonathan on April 25, 2009, 09:43:28 AM
I wouldn't call it an upset, honestly. It didn't really come as much of a surprise to me. I was just glad that the brutally awful Clap Your Hands Say Yeah didn't come in at No. 1, as I was fearing it might.

Now you, however...I would call you upset. ;)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on April 26, 2009, 12:19:49 PM
Ugh Crap Your Pants Say Yeah very much sucks
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on April 27, 2009, 01:57:04 PM
It's been so summery here the past three days that I broke out my "Summer Mix" from last year. So fun! Summer makes me happy.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on April 27, 2009, 03:08:28 PM
It's been so summery here the past three days that I broke out my "Summer Mix" from last year. So fun! Summer makes me happy.
Send a copy to me.
Send a copy to me.
I'd love a new summer mix.
Send a copy to me.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on April 27, 2009, 09:44:15 PM
It's been so summery here the past three days that I broke out my "Summer Mix" from last year. So fun! Summer makes me happy.
Send a copy to me.
Send a copy to me.
I'd love a new summer mix.
Send a copy to me.

Here you go, Randomville:
https://download.yousendit.com/WnBRN3RjNnk5bEFLSkE9PQ

If you can't directly figure out why a particular track is on there... then the answer is that I just thought it had a great summery upbeat sound to it. :)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on April 28, 2009, 08:20:36 AM
Thaaaaaank you! I'll have to gank that once I get home this evening.
You're the best!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on April 28, 2009, 09:19:25 AM
Well, I guess I'm finally becoming that old listener shaking his cane at the radio going "you don't play what I like any more!"
I had woxy on for all of maybe four songs this morning. I couldn't tell one from the other. They had some kind of show on this morning... I dunno, maybe the guys who bought 'em? (And really, how much can a quality microphone cost? Those guys sound like they'r talking through a PVC pipe.) I can't tell all the woxy guest shows apart any more. I never know when any of 'em are on either. Seems to be watering it down even more. At some point there's just too much new stuff to keep up with.
I dunno. I always admired the station for playing what they want. They have their target audience. I'm getting older, my interest in keeping track of 20 new artists a week is waning, and I still need to sample half of the best of '08 list.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on April 28, 2009, 09:37:03 AM
That was Future Sounds, and yes, those are the guys who bought them. And also... that's the only specialty show that I've heard that I actually like (partly because they actually have the tracks listed rather than just the name of the show) and I've noticed they do a great job of bringing in new music that's right up my alley, but also in repeating new-ish artists that they are trying to get some more exposure (such as The Answering Machine and Lilofee). I enjoy the repetition because it reinforces my like in those bands... and I of course like the new music that they bring in. I think the repetition is key and something WOXY has stated they don't want to do but is something I truly miss.

I agree with the microphone statement, tho. Very strange. I'm getting used to it, which creeps me out.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on April 28, 2009, 09:46:05 AM
Yeah, the play list I have (which is all I can get through WebSense) showed the song names. I wish all the specialty shows listed the individual songs. Maybe that's my problem; I can hardly keep up even when the names are in front of me.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on April 29, 2009, 08:32:58 AM
I'm starting to resolve myself to the fact that broadcast radio in any form is pretty much dead as a music delivery system in this country. It is all driven now by familiar play lists, gabby DJs, and PDs who care more about retaining ad or subscriber revenue than they do the music.
I would certainly not want to be a musician trying to be heard these days.
Internet radio is our last hope.
I hope the better stations can survive this royalty grab and continue to deliver music we wouldn't hear otherwise. I've been wanting to get a wireless device with an unlimited data plan, but the uncertain future of internet music delivery is a major stumbling block. I wonder if we'd have better mobile internet radio delivery devices by now if it wasn't for the specter of royalties hanging over stations' heads?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Juliana on April 29, 2009, 11:15:00 AM
I don't think internet radio should be any musician's hope.
There's too many stations and too many other artists to compete with. 
Listener's won't be able to keep up.
I don't know how you do it anymore unless you tour like mad and hope that word of mouth gets around.

We saw our pal Dick Prall in Columbus the other night.  It's his first 'tour' in a couple of years, and he was with Matt Duke (who I think might have a label, but I'm not sure).  There were maybe 15 people in the bar, including the owner and the bartender.   Matt had been on the radio doing a promotion event earlier in the day and everything. 

I don't know.  Does college radio still matter at all?  There was a group of 3 college students sitting near us who knew some of the lyrics to Matt's songs, which was actually pretty cool.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on April 29, 2009, 06:14:10 PM
In the near future, it will be easier than ever to get Internet radio wherever you want it, which will help.  Still, as in any medium, there will be a few stations which rise to the top, while the rest either sink off the face of the Earth, or hover in the middle.  The ones who achieve this world-class status are usually the ones with money behind them (which makes sense). 

That being said, if Internet radio is our 'last hope,' we're dead already.  I think it's a strong outlet and will always be a way to hear new and exciting music, but is it more important than the artists themselves going out and touring?  Offering special deals to the fanbase?  Being accessible to their fans?  I don't think so.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on April 29, 2009, 06:22:38 PM
Yeah, I'm worried about internet radio becoming beholden to the same money interests eventually.
You make a good point about artists reaching out to the fans directly.
The internet is indeed the last hope, just perhaps not in the form of radio stations, eh?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Juliana on May 01, 2009, 11:09:45 AM
I honestly think that the bigger and "more important" internet radio gets, the better chances of it going the way  terresterial radio become.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on May 01, 2009, 11:14:37 AM
I agree. If it becomes the center of attention, advertisers and corporate interests will be all over it, thereby relegating it to the scrap heap of least-common-denominator focus group-driven schlock that terrestrial radio has become.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 01, 2009, 12:41:35 PM
This is probably slightly off topic but what the hell is with all of these stations that just play "anything" anymore.  They're so deceiving... you run through the dial, you catch a good song and stop but the next song is Hot Blooded, Take it on the Run or Sharp Dressed Man... wtf?

For the record I'll give ZZ a pass, but I've got to be in the mood.  Foreigner and REO can eat all of my undigested corn and peanuts however.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on May 01, 2009, 01:08:32 PM
For the record I'll give ZZ a pass, but I've got to be in the mood.  Foreigner and REO can eat all of my undigested corn and peanuts however.
Ah, you hurt me, man.
Old REO is as good as it gets. The late ballady stuff, though... meh.
And Foreigner's Double Vision stayed in the tape player two times through after I bought it. One of only a handful of albums I've ever repeated straight off after hearing it the first time.
And ZZTop... stay with their stuff before Eliminator. That's their Sold Our Souls To The Devil album.

Dif'rent strokes, I guess...
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Juliana on May 01, 2009, 01:27:08 PM
I agree. If it becomes the center of attention, advertisers and corporate interests will be all over it, thereby relegating it to the scrap heap of least-common-denominator focus group-driven schlock that terrestrial radio has become.

Of course it will be though.  There's too much MONEY involved for it not to be. 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on May 01, 2009, 01:53:24 PM
Yeah, money.
*sigh*
It makes the world go 'round.
I wish there was a way to separate art from money somehow, but an artist has to eat.
If there was a way to send the artist a fatted calf or an Indian rug every time I liked a song or painting, that might just work on the barter system, I guess.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Juliana on May 01, 2009, 03:44:22 PM
Yeah, money.
*sigh*
It makes the world go 'round.
I wish there was a way to separate art from money somehow, but an artist has to eat.
If there was a way to send the artist a fatted calf or an Indian rug every time I liked a song or painting, that might just work on the barter system, I guess.

It wouldn't though.  Look at how much we all dl stuff for free, between movies, music and whatever else we can get our grubby little hands on. 
There's never going to be a perfect system.
Hell, we make kids lie about their ages to get into the zoo for $5 cheaper.  We all want more for our money, or more for zero money.  That's a collective "we" for now, but yeah, yeah, we'll make Nora lie about her age.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on May 01, 2009, 04:48:38 PM
That Decemberists album might be one of the best of 2009, and I hated that band before now.

I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to read your thoughts on why this is the case. Or how they converted you.

I'm listening to it right now, and yes, I think it's brilliant, but I was already a massive fan of theirs. I really thought Picaresque was the perfect 'normal' album and perhaps when a band gets a little bored they go off and make a concept album, which was "The Crane Wife". I think I even wrote that for Rville. I didn't have a clue how a band follows those two... and yet this is exactly how. But yet... again, I was already a fan. I want to know what YOU think about this.

Either a kick ass post, or a whole Rville article please. kthxbai!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on May 02, 2009, 02:29:38 AM
:p

I posted this on the woxy boards a month or so ago.  I can expand later if you want.

----------------

For me, Picaresque was one of those 'Why the hell is this so beloved?' albums. The sea shanty aspect of their music just bored me to death, and when I read Meloy majored in creative writing at college, I just snickered. It made PERFECT sense that he would go off and do something like this. Still, Picaresque is the answer to the question: What if someone set out to create 'art,' and none of his friends told him it was a horrific pile of crap?

The Crane's Wife only cemented home how pretentious this band was. To this day, I still cringe whenever Col-own hits that high note in 'The Island, Come And See...' *shudder* I guess prog rock is the genre to experiment in when you want to share with everyone your rejected literary magazine poems and narratives.

I hated this band. They just reeked of elitism and all that artsy posing bullshit that has nothing to do with rock and roll. In so much that rock & roll itself is a pose, but these guys took themselves way too seriously for me to umm...take seriously. I couldn't imagine a scenario where if I had a conversation with Meloy that wouldn't end up with me drowning him in a punch bowl screaming '...And you ruined the 33 1/3 book series with your ridiculous biography/short story on 'Let It Be,' motherfucker!!!'

But I digress...

I heard 'The Rake's Song' somewhere a month or so ago, and instead of wanting to put my fist through the notebook screen, I found myself rocking out to the riff. I believe I documented this on this here boards. And then I umm...got a hold of the record, and couldn't wait to see what Meloy shat out that everyone would call genius immediately.

Except it was like he had heard my criticisms. There are parts on this record where he's laughing along with everyone else instead of holding his 'art' up on an ethereal plane for the heavens to judge. Dude found his sense of humor!

Forgetting all the talk about how 'the Decemberists have made the album cool again,' (which they haven't, unfortunately), it really is a solid piece, meant to be listened to all at once. I can't think of a moment on here musically that I would replace or remove. It's definitely less 'prog' than TCW, which I appreciate. But it rocks more. It's almost like if Fairport Convention were a metal band, if that makes any sense. Granted, I'm not a big fan of that band or that genre, but I really like this record. It'll definitely be on my year-end list somewhere, and I'm actually looking forward to see what they do next.

I would say to the rest of the haters to give this record an honest chance. I would also like to say I am not brainwashed by Capitol Records or was bribed by Meloy to say these things. Thank you. Drive through.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on May 02, 2009, 12:20:30 PM
Interesting. Thanks man. I guess I just wanted to hear where you get your thoughts from. There is always an element of the Decemberists that I don't like on every one of their albums - generally its the slower, more intimate tracks - and that's still on this one at times. But it sounds like you really like it when they rock out a bit.

Re the sense of humor: I never thought he wasn't taking himself uber-serious. I guess I'd recommend seeing them in concert. They have more fun up there in one show than many bands have in a career. They joke around, they interact with the crowd, they mock each other, etc. That's hardly taking yourself too serious. But again, you wouldn't really notice that on the albums.

Word up.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on May 02, 2009, 01:10:16 PM
The problem with The Decemberists isn't that they have fancy lyrics.  It's that their fancy lyrics suck.  The words to "We Both Go Down Together" are laughably awful.

It's not like I feel every lyric has to be perfect, but they're a band that relies heavily on words.  So when you shoot big, you fail big.  They do have some pretty nice songs, but the bad ones are so stupendously terrible that I really can't even listen to them at all any more.

I've never had a problem with their lyrical attitude.  I've always thought songs like "The Sporting Life" were tongue in cheek.  But bad lyrics are bad lyrics whether in an attempt at humor or romance or whatever the hell it is they are trying to do.


Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on May 02, 2009, 07:16:09 PM
Well then, W.  You'll enjoy this.  :D

The Eight Most Pretentious Decemberists lyrics from the new album. (http://www.slate.com/id/2215819/)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on May 02, 2009, 09:47:59 PM
I'll break another one down for you:

Here on these cliffs of Dover
so high you can't see over

How can I not see over the cliffs?  It's not a matter of height, it's a matter of just getting close to the edge.  Every cliff is the same.  You can see over them if you get close enough to the edge.  Unless he means that they are standing at the base of the cliff and can't see over the top.  In which case, again-- every cliff is the same.  If I can see over the top, it's not a cliff.  It probably doesn't even qualify as a ledge.  A small mound maybe.

Also, the cliffs of Dover are for two things:  their location at key point in the English Channel, and they're really white.  They are pretty, they are historically important.  They are not particularly tall.  They're kind of puny, actually.  So, not sure why Meloy is harping on their height.

and while your head is spinning
hold tight it's just beginning

Why is my head spinning, and why do I have to hold tight?  Because I'm looking over the edge of the cliff?  But wait... I can't do that, it's somehow too tall! 

you come from parents' wanton
a childhood rough and rotten

"wanton" is an adjective, so that just don't make no kind of sense.  "A childhood rough and rotten" is an awkward phrasing.  It's kind of redundant, for one.  For another there's an object-adjective inversion.  "A rough and rotten childhood."

I come from wealth and beauty
untouched by work or duty

I would think a English nobleman would have a lot of duties, but I'll let this one slide.  He's a spoiled rich kid.  Got it.


I found you, a tattooed tramp
A dirty daughter from the labor camps

Why is she tattooed?  Is she from another culture?  Is she religiously devout?  Tattoos weren't particularly prevalent in the lower classes of England as far as I know.

I laid you down in the grass of a clearing
You wept, but your soul was willing

I laid you down upon the grass upon the grass.  I laid you down in a clearing.  I laid you down upon the grass in a clearing.  I laid you down in the grass of a clearing?!?  And all for a rhyme that doesn't really rhyme.

And my parents will never consent to this love
But I hold your hand

He'll hold her hand?  If it's a forbidden love, and you already fucked her then dude, go nuts.  You decided not to rhyme here, so you can say anything you want and "I hold your hand" is the best you can do?  Pull out the jammy and kill the pootenanny, dude.  Why does that first sentence start with "And?"

Meet me on my vast veranda
My sweet untouched Miranda

Dude, you have a large front porch.  A veranda can't really be vast.  I picture a veranda that is like, many miles long, and who has a veranda like that?  "Vast" is not really a fancy synonym for "large."  It has a different connotation.  Vast>large.  And why is Miranda untouched?  First, she had a rough and rotten childhood.  Second, she's apparently from the lower class.  Third, dude already laid her down in the grass of a clearing.  So she's been "touched."  A lot.  She's the opposite of "untouched."  Bruised, maybe.

and while the seagulls are crying
we fall but our souls are flying

So apparently they jump from the cliff?  They were holding hands so they could jump off together?  Okay.  But what happened to the veranda?  Weren't they on his veranda?  Is he saying the cliffs are his veranda?  But the Cliffs of Dover are not enclosed.  I think of a veranda as having a roof.  Otherwise it's a courtyard.  Seagulls crying doesn't really work for me, either.  Seagulls squawk, not cry.  But I guess if he finds that seagull noises mournful, it's okay.

Most of his shit is like that.  It's all fancy words that aren't really used correctly so that he can construct tortured rhymes.  If he wants to use big words, fine.  But use them well.  Castaways and Cutouts was okay, but then he got caught in his gimmick and he just started forcing things. 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on May 03, 2009, 11:41:30 AM
Quote
Father, I'm not feeling well, the flowers me you fed
Tasted spoiled for suddenly I find that I am dead


I you assure that object-verb inversion is poetic. Verily.
Quote
And we'll lie 'til the Corn Crake crows
Bereft of the weight of our summer clothes


Twenty-first-century English translation:

I'm-a freak you till
Da break-a dawn.
:D
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jonathan on May 04, 2009, 11:15:37 AM
Quote
Fifteen lithesome maidens lay
Along in their bower
Fourteen occupations pay
To pass the idle hour

Where have I seen something like this before? Oh yeah..."Sixteen Military Wives"

I'm beginning to think ol' Colin was inspired by "The Twelve Days of Christmas".
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 04, 2009, 01:11:38 PM
I don't get it, I thought you all wanted to play with Meloy's weiner when The Crane Wife was out.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on May 05, 2009, 11:08:51 AM
RVA, that was awesome.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jonathan on May 06, 2009, 11:24:12 AM
I don't get it, I thought you all wanted to play with Meloy's weiner when The Crane Wife was out.

Funny fact - I've never listened to The Crane Wife all the way through. Or probably even half the songs. And I'd be hard pressed to even name one of the songs on that album without looking it up.

So no, I'm not a member of the Meloy Weiner-Playing Club.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 06, 2009, 11:59:28 AM
Really?  When it was out that was all anybody talked about, and I know a bunch of boarders went to see them.  Here I was thinking I was the lone man out.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on May 06, 2009, 01:30:32 PM
Well, there was that time in 2006.  As I recall, it was the dank, dark days of Decemb'r when I summoned him to the mews of my manor.  Whilst the maidservants slept in slumber, I massaged and manipulated Melloy's member.

But it was just that one time, I swear.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 06, 2009, 01:59:39 PM
That's hilarious.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on May 07, 2009, 10:43:20 AM
As much as it kills me to think this, William Reid is looking an awful lot like the red head's dad from that 70's Show these days. 

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jonathan on May 07, 2009, 11:58:55 AM
Well, there was that time in 2006.  As I recall, it was the dank, dark days of Decemb'r when I summoned him to the mews of my manor.  Whilst the maidservants slept in slumber, I massaged and manipulated Melloy's member.

But it was just that one time, I swear.

Seriously, why did you get rid of the clapping smiley? That would have been perfect to use.

Well done.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on May 07, 2009, 01:35:15 PM
Okay, Animal Collective's Peacebone is on woxy right now.
Nothing in music puzzles me more than the popularity of this pretentious infantile noise. Not rap, not American Idol, not World Beat, not even Zamfir. I understand their respective audiences. But AC seems to exist solely for the satisfaction of people who want to be seen or heard liking Animal Collective.
What, musically, is the least bit attractive about this chanting garbage?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on May 07, 2009, 02:44:20 PM
Well, there was that time in 2006.  As I recall, it was the dank, dark days of Decemb'r when I summoned him to the mews of my manor.  Whilst the maidservants slept in slumber, I massaged and manipulated Melloy's member.

But it was just that one time, I swear.

Seriously, why did you get rid of the clapping smiley? That would have been perfect to use.

Well done.

How's this for a substitute?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/mistergugi/clappingjoker.gif)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on May 08, 2009, 02:20:49 PM
I always get giddy when Fatboy Slim's "In Heaven" comes up on my iPod while I'm at work (while wearing headphones, of course). I feel SUPER naughty grooving to it while I'm in the office.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jonathan on May 10, 2009, 01:49:40 AM

Seriously, why did you get rid of the clapping smiley? That would have been perfect to use.

Well done.

How's this for a substitute?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/mistergugi/clappingjoker.gif)


Pretty poor, actually.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jonathan on May 10, 2009, 01:50:46 AM
Okay, Animal Collective's Peacebone is on woxy right now.
Nothing in music puzzles me more than the popularity of this pretentious infantile noise. Not rap, not American Idol, not World Beat, not even Zamfir. I understand their respective audiences. But AC seems to exist solely for the satisfaction of people who want to be seen or heard liking Animal Collective.
What, musically, is the least bit attractive about this chanting garbage?

While we're on the subject, I've never understood how Ween keeps getting people to play their "music".
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on May 10, 2009, 02:36:24 AM
Ween's new record is pretty good, IMO.  'Your Party' is a nice departure from their more quirky works.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on May 10, 2009, 03:39:30 PM
Okay, Animal Collective's Peacebone is on woxy right now.
Nothing in music puzzles me more than the popularity of this pretentious infantile noise. Not rap, not American Idol, not World Beat, not even Zamfir. I understand their respective audiences. But AC seems to exist solely for the satisfaction of people who want to be seen or heard liking Animal Collective.
What, musically, is the least bit attractive about this chanting garbage?

While we're on the subject, I've never understood how Ween keeps getting people to play their "music".

Ween: depends on the song. Some of it is music.

Animal Collective: not so much
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on May 11, 2009, 10:13:39 AM
Okay, Animal Collective's Peacebone is on woxy right now.
Nothing in music puzzles me more than the popularity of this pretentious infantile noise. Not rap, not American Idol, not World Beat, not even Zamfir. I understand their respective audiences. But AC seems to exist solely for the satisfaction of people who want to be seen or heard liking Animal Collective.
What, musically, is the least bit attractive about this chanting garbage?

Sweet dude, I thought we had made some progress with these sort of musical generalizations here but I see that is not always the case.

I made a realization not that long ago that I tend towards bands who make what other people classify as annoying electronic noise.  OK Computer/Kid A/Amnesiac-era Radiohead, Stereolab, Animal Collective... I don't know but some others that would be in that general area would probably be Chemical Brothers, Air, Crystal Castles, many others who don't spring to mind.  I bet there's a bunch out there I'd still like if I ever gave it a chance, and that my wife and many others would also continue to hate.  It's just interesting to me. 

Sometimes pretentious works for me, and sometimes it doesn't.  Just being pretentious doesn't automatically preclude me from liking something, and it shouldn't for others either.  For example, Sufjan Stevens = pretentious twat.  I saw his Austin City Limits performance, he was wearing fucking angel wings for Christ's sake.  But some of his songs are just outstanding, and his doofiness doesn't prevent me from enjoying the music.  I don't know much about him, so I just pretend like he's some kind of music savant who doesn't know how to act in any other area of his life except to write some good songs.  That seems to work for now.  But that whole 50 albums for 50 states project is falling a tad behind.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on May 12, 2009, 02:36:54 AM
I think I read somewhere he said it was tongue-in-cheek, the whole 50/50 thing.

'John Wayne Gacy' is a hell of a song, though.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on May 12, 2009, 11:29:31 AM
In Dion's "The Wanderer" he says he "roams from town to town" where "they call me the wanderer"

How would they even know he was called "the Wanderer" in each of the new towns he roams to?

Did he wear a t-shirt or something?

-------------------------------------------

In similar fashion - and something MK & I have always laughed about...

In Thin Lizzy's "Jailbreak" the late, great Phil Lynott croons "Tonight, there's going to be a jailbreak, somewhere here in this town"

My guess would be the jail.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on May 12, 2009, 02:13:15 PM
In somewhat related thoughts:

In Las Cruces Jail from the Two Gallants, they sing about how he's in jail and has been giving the death sentence.
So he sings about how they're going to hang him if he stays, but shoot him if he runs.

So yeah, I'd take my chances with the escape, ya know?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on May 12, 2009, 02:47:41 PM
I complained about "I Shot the Sheriff" making no sense for years:

LOo9azW-R_Y
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on May 12, 2009, 05:39:37 PM
In Dion's "The Wanderer" he says he "roams from town to town" where "they call me the wanderer"

How would they even know he was called "the Wanderer" in each of the new towns he roams to?

Did he wear a t-shirt or something?

The Wanderer was apparently prone to tearing open his shirt. If anything I would think they might've called him Rosie since that's what was tattooed on his chest. It would have definitely been a more entertaining and amusing nickname.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Doug on May 13, 2009, 03:48:00 PM
Jamiroquai does not get enough love.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jonathan on May 14, 2009, 10:50:40 AM
Ween's new record is pretty good, IMO.  'Your Party' is a nice departure from their more quirky works.

"Your Party" is the most ridiculous song I've heard played on the radio in the past five years. Did you pay any attention to the lyrics? They're trite, and the tune is dull as dishwater. It is a thank-you note sent to music.

A pointless song with no real reason for existing. Serious Torturethon material. Having to think about those lyrics for eight hours will drive you insane.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: vizzah on May 14, 2009, 06:04:46 PM
I can't make or eat a salad without singing "Nutrition" by Dead Milkmen.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on May 14, 2009, 07:07:58 PM
wait a minute you are rhyming day with day?
Ween's new record is pretty good, IMO.  'Your Party' is a nice departure from their more quirky works.

"Your Party" is the most ridiculous song I've heard played on the radio in the past five years. Did you pay any attention to the lyrics? They're trite, and the tune is dull as dishwater. It is a thank-you note sent to music.

A pointless song with no real reason for existing. Serious Torturethon material. Having to think about those lyrics for eight hours will drive you insane.

Uhh you know the song is supposed to be ridiculous right?  That's the point.  It's supposed to be trite and absurd.  I think the song is hilarious.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: matt on May 14, 2009, 10:41:50 PM
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Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on May 15, 2009, 01:26:57 AM
Ween's new record is pretty good, IMO.  'Your Party' is a nice departure from their more quirky works.

"Your Party" is the most ridiculous song I've heard played on the radio in the past five years. Did you pay any attention to the lyrics? They're trite, and the tune is dull as dishwater. It is a thank-you note sent to music.

A pointless song with no real reason for existing. Serious Torturethon material. Having to think about those lyrics for eight hours will drive you insane.

It is YOU who are the ridiculous!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on May 15, 2009, 07:21:09 AM
wait a minute you are rhyming day with day?
Ween's new record is pretty good, IMO.  'Your Party' is a nice departure from their more quirky works.

"Your Party" is the most ridiculous song I've heard played on the radio in the past five years. Did you pay any attention to the lyrics? They're trite, and the tune is dull as dishwater. It is a thank-you note sent to music.

A pointless song with no real reason for existing. Serious Torturethon material. Having to think about those lyrics for eight hours will drive you insane.

Uhh you know the song is supposed to be ridiculous right?  That's the point.  It's supposed to be trite and absurd.  I think the song is hilarious.

And there's the whole problem with Ween.  Are they trying to make serious music, or are they just trying to be undercover parody artists.  Who knows?  And more importantly, who cares?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jonathan on May 15, 2009, 10:35:12 AM
wait a minute you are rhyming day with day?
Ween's new record is pretty good, IMO.  'Your Party' is a nice departure from their more quirky works.

"Your Party" is the most ridiculous song I've heard played on the radio in the past five years. Did you pay any attention to the lyrics? They're trite, and the tune is dull as dishwater. It is a thank-you note sent to music.

A pointless song with no real reason for existing. Serious Torturethon material. Having to think about those lyrics for eight hours will drive you insane.

Uhh you know the song is supposed to be ridiculous right?  That's the point.  It's supposed to be trite and absurd.  I think the song is hilarious.

It's the musical equivalent of an unfunny joke that the creator should have kept to his or her self, instead of inflicting it on the general populace.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Doug on May 17, 2009, 01:32:53 AM
People that don't get Ween just don't get Ween.  They should just leave it at that instead of trying to analyze it.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jonathan on May 17, 2009, 07:57:55 AM
I would gladly leave Ween at that. It's when their particular brand of aural diarreha is foisted upon me that I have a problem. So really, pro-Ween people should leave it at that as well.

I guess my problem isn't with Ween, it's with people trying to get me to like Ween. Or indeed, listen to them.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Doug on May 18, 2009, 08:25:59 AM
Who's trying to convince you to like Ween?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on May 18, 2009, 04:09:25 PM
I'm having a musical Rain Man month. I have been exclusively listening to Manu Chao and Mano Negra records for the last three weeks or so. Nice to re-discover a gem in your own collection, every so often.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Juliana on May 19, 2009, 11:24:52 AM
Jason and I were cleaning a bunch of stuff out of the baby's room yesterday and I stumbled upon my old Better Than Ezra box of junk.  Fanclub passes, letters from the fanclub, flyers, posters, stickers, The freaking Best Buy ad from when one of their CDs came out, all kinds of junk.  What the crap am I supposed to do with it all?  I don't really need/want that junk anymore, but I found myself oddly attached to it at the same time.  It's like I'm too much of an adult now, but man, that was such a part of my early 20s.  All that junk, not just BTE, but all of it.  We found a setlist from a BR5-49 show from a couple of years ago, and it was the same thing.  What the crap do you do with this stuff?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on May 19, 2009, 11:28:12 AM
Put it in a box, enjoy it every 5 years or so.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on May 19, 2009, 12:31:53 PM
I would gladly leave Ween at that. It's when their particular brand of aural diarreha is foisted upon me that I have a problem. So really, pro-Ween people should leave it at that as well.

I guess my problem isn't with Ween, it's with people trying to get me to like Ween. Or indeed, listen to them.

You know I actually don't really like most of their songs. I find quite a bit of their material weird and unlistenable.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on May 19, 2009, 02:27:43 PM
Jason and I were cleaning a bunch of stuff out of the baby's room yesterday and I stumbled upon my old Better Than Ezra box of junk.  Fanclub passes, letters from the fanclub, flyers, posters, stickers, The freaking Best Buy ad from when one of their CDs came out, all kinds of junk.  What the crap am I supposed to do with it all?  I don't really need/want that junk anymore, but I found myself oddly attached to it at the same time.  It's like I'm too much of an adult now, but man, that was such a part of my early 20s.  All that junk, not just BTE, but all of it.  We found a setlist from a BR5-49 show from a couple of years ago, and it was the same thing.  What the crap do you do with this stuff?
I had this same issue with my G. Love collection. I've considered going on their message board and offering to mail the stuff to the first person who says they want it and will treat it with care.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: kcneon on May 19, 2009, 02:41:09 PM
Jason and I were cleaning a bunch of stuff out of the baby's room yesterday and I stumbled upon my old Better Than Ezra box of junk.  Fanclub passes, letters from the fanclub, flyers, posters, stickers, The freaking Best Buy ad from when one of their CDs came out, all kinds of junk.  What the crap am I supposed to do with it all?  I don't really need/want that junk anymore, but I found myself oddly attached to it at the same time.  It's like I'm too much of an adult now, but man, that was such a part of my early 20s.  All that junk, not just BTE, but all of it.  We found a setlist from a BR5-49 show from a couple of years ago, and it was the same thing.  What the crap do you do with this stuff?

Maybe scrapbook what you can/want to and dump the rest.  That way baby can see what you were into later on!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 19, 2009, 03:20:54 PM
Dear God don't you dare get her started on scrapbooking.  Our finances couldn't bear the strain.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Doug on May 19, 2009, 03:28:09 PM
I would gladly leave Ween at that. It's when their particular brand of aural diarreha is foisted upon me that I have a problem. So really, pro-Ween people should leave it at that as well.

I guess my problem isn't with Ween, it's with people trying to get me to like Ween. Or indeed, listen to them.

You know I actually don't really like most of their songs. I find quite a bit of their material weird and unlistenable.
I'm not trying to convince anybody to listen to Ween.  It's definitely an acquired taste.  I think it helps in my case that my mind is twisted enough to appreciate like twisted minds.  But if I had to suggest an album to the guy on the street from Ween's collection, I would suggest the Live at Stubb's album.  But I definitely don't suggest that anybody listen to them.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Juliana on May 19, 2009, 03:30:48 PM
I'm not trying to convince anybody to listen to Ween.  It's definitely an acquired taste.  I think it helps in my case that my mind is twisted enough to appreciate like twisted minds.  But if I had to suggest an album to the guy on the street from Ween's collection, I would suggest the Live at Stubb's album.  But I definitely don't suggest that anybody listen to them.

Yeah right Doug (if that is your real name). Every time I see you you try to hand me a Ween CD.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 19, 2009, 03:31:22 PM
Does that make him a Ween-er?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Doug on May 19, 2009, 03:48:23 PM
It's just a reflex.  I can't control it.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: kcneon on May 19, 2009, 04:06:02 PM
Dear God don't you dare get her started on scrapbooking.  Our finances couldn't bear the strain.

Quick!  Scratch that thought...I mean Memory book.  Yeah, just a book to keep your keepsakes, setlists, etc.  Keep. It. Simple.  Right, Kwyj?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Poncho on May 20, 2009, 09:58:11 AM
Oh, he's definitely a Ween-er!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on May 20, 2009, 10:04:24 AM
Doug just PM'd me the entire Ween catalog.  You are out of control, man.  Get some help.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: kcneon on May 20, 2009, 01:57:38 PM
Empire of the Sun = China Crisis tribute with some weird experiments in the middle of the album.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Doug on May 20, 2009, 03:29:53 PM
There is no help for my wiener.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jonathan on May 21, 2009, 09:15:36 AM
Empire of the Sun = China Crisis tribute with some weird experiments in the middle of the album.

Given it's Nick Littlemore and Luke Steele, of course there's going to be some weird experiments!

Love the title track.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on May 29, 2009, 03:54:39 PM
I'm listening to Amy Winehouse's "You Know I'm No Good" right now. It's the first time I've listened (according to iTunes) since December '07, and probably also the first time I've heard it at all since then.


My thought: this is actually quite a good track. Too bad she had to go and ruin everything for herself.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on May 29, 2009, 09:58:49 PM
Lowe's plays a pretty weird but somewhat awesome music selection.  Last time I was there they played Sundays and it wasn't even "Here's Where the Story Ends."  It was "Can't Be Sure."  Then they followed that up with Boz Scaggs, CSNY, The Shins, Billy Joel, Lloyd Cole(!), Journey, and America.

Today when I came in they were playing a Morrisey deep cut.  And I mean, DEEP.  So deep put my ass to sleep.  It was some random song from maybe Vauxhall and I or Your Arsenal that I can't even remember the name of it and probably hadn't heard in ten years.   I mean, you don't even hear it on WOXY or whatever.  Then there was some cover version of Ash's Shining Light.  I guess it must have been Annie Lennox since I know she just covered it, but it sure didn't sound like Annie Lennox.  It sounded kind of country-ish.  No idea what's up with that.  Then, REM's Shiny, Happy People, Journey's Wheel in the Sky, England Dan and John Ford Cooley, James Taylor and then Butter 08.   I shit you not.  They actually played "Butter of 69" at Lowe's.  It's not like you could mistake some Japanese chick squee-warbling "Butter of 69" over and over again for something other song.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: matt on May 29, 2009, 10:42:21 PM
There's probably a rebel working there who has access to the Muzak machine and is reprogramming it.  I used to do that years ago when I worked on the stock crew at Sears.  I'd go in at 5-6AM and it was always so quiet in the store, so I'd turn on the Muzak player and dial in a set of music that I wanted to hear instead of the usual elevator music.  I'd always leave it on when the store opened and no one would ever change it.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on June 04, 2009, 10:41:41 AM
I spent last night rearranging my collection of mp3s from the 2006 Modern Rock 500 to match up with the 2009 Modern Rock 500. I had the first 200 and then about 20 of the next 25 or so in that collection.

I didn't need to grab a new mp3 until Arcade Fire at 101. So although not surprising... nothing particularly new in the top 100. I was able to work quickly until the later half of the second 100... then I had to start finding tracks that I didn't have collected pretty regularly. I even had to BUY 4 tracks that I couldn't find in my own music collection or on the Hype Machine... and sorry CR, but one of those purchased tracks was Sucky and the Banshees' "Peek-A-Boo." I cringed for your sake the whole time I was looking for it.

I had two tracks that were previously in the top 220....and are now no longer even in the top 500. Stupidly, I've already forgotten which ones, though.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on June 04, 2009, 11:06:47 AM
Lowe's plays a pretty weird but somewhat awesome music selection.  Last time I was there they played Sundays and it wasn't even "Here's Where the Story Ends."  It was "Can't Be Sure." 

Then, REM's Shiny, Happy People, Journey's Wheel in the Sky, England Dan and John Ford Cooley, James Taylor and then Butter 08.   I shit you not.  They actually played "Butter of 69" at Lowe's.  It's not like you could mistake some Japanese chick squee-warbling "Butter of 69" over and over again for something other song.

This is the greatest Lowe's in the history of Lowe'ses.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on June 04, 2009, 12:07:26 PM
It's not like you could mistake some Japanese chick squee-warbling "Butter of 69" over and over again for something other song.

Wait a minute.  I thought I had heard that song, and in fact I have an mp3 of it that somebody posted many moons ago and there is definitely no Japanese chick squee-warbling involved.  So what are you talking about, or what the heck have I heard that you guys haven't or vice versa?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jonathan on June 04, 2009, 12:09:27 PM
I have a new title...Squee-Warbler.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on June 04, 2009, 12:18:09 PM
Wait a minute.  I thought I had heard that song, and in fact I have an mp3 of it that somebody posted many moons ago and there is definitely no Japanese chick squee-warbling involved.  So what are you talking about, or what the heck have I heard that you guys haven't or vice versa?

You must not have heard what you thought you heard.  Cibo Matto is part of that group, and they definitely are Japanese chick squee-warblers.  And there's plenty of it in that song.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on June 04, 2009, 12:41:38 PM
Huh... maybe I've got something else.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: MissKitty on June 04, 2009, 01:37:00 PM
It's getting to the point where I'm not going to be able to go out and shop in a bricks and mortar store ever again.

First I hear the evil J band in at Lowes - same song as Rva heard.
Then I heard "Loving Touching Screeching" at Meijers.
Then "Oh Sheri" at Jungle Jims.
Then "Any Way You Want It" at a restaurant over the weekend.


IS THERE NO ESCAPE!?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: MissKitty on June 04, 2009, 01:37:50 PM
Hang on, I don't want Escape. I don't want ANY of their albums.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on June 04, 2009, 02:04:15 PM
The grocery store where I do most of my shopping, Biggs, has decent music.  Kind of that overplayed, Gen X nostalgia stuff, but certainly better than easy listening or the power ballad songs.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: trixi on June 04, 2009, 06:12:06 PM
I didn't need to grab a new mp3 until Arcade Fire at 101. So although not surprising... nothing particularly new in the top 100. I was able to work quickly until the later half of the second 100... then I had to start finding tracks that I didn't have collected pretty regularly. I even had to BUY 4 tracks that I couldn't find in my own music collection or on the Hype Machine... and sorry CR, but one of those purchased tracks was Sucky and the Banshees' "Peek-A-Boo." I cringed for your sake the whole time I was looking for it.
Dan, before you buy music CR doesn't like....ask me, I probably have it :)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on June 04, 2009, 10:04:22 PM
and sorry CR, but one of those purchased tracks was Sucky and the Banshees' "Peek-A-Boo."

The Randomville lawyers will be in touch. I don't think you know just HOW much you have broken the rules here, young man.

No wonder you can't get chicks.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on June 04, 2009, 10:37:32 PM
On the other hand his ability to pick up chicks who look like dudes may now be on the rise.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on June 05, 2009, 12:43:54 AM
It was at this point in the show
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a186/rcc94/aa42b8d3.jpg)
when all I could think of was the following. My friends couldn't figure out why I was laughing.

I'll break another one down for you:

Here on these cliffs of Dover
so high you can't see over

How can I not see over the cliffs?  It's not a matter of height, it's a matter of just getting close to the edge.  Every cliff is the same.  You can see over them if you get close enough to the edge.  Unless he means that they are standing at the base of the cliff and can't see over the top.  In which case, again-- every cliff is the same.  If I can see over the top, it's not a cliff.  It probably doesn't even qualify as a ledge.  A small mound maybe.

Also, the cliffs of Dover are for two things:  their location at key point in the English Channel, and they're really white.  They are pretty, they are historically important.  They are not particularly tall.  They're kind of puny, actually.  So, not sure why Meloy is harping on their height.

and while your head is spinning
hold tight it's just beginning

Why is my head spinning, and why do I have to hold tight?  Because I'm looking over the edge of the cliff?  But wait... I can't do that, it's somehow too tall! 

[...]
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on June 05, 2009, 02:13:09 PM
Despite the fact I'm increasingly laid back and chilled out the older I get, every time I hear a song by Conor Oberst I still want to punch the poxy cunt in the throat.

The new Manic Street Preachers album is surprisingly ok.

Tina Weymouth's bass-playing still makes me want to wobble my bottom.

"The Rain" by Oran 'Juice' Jones is the best song with the word "Rain" in the title, ever.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on June 05, 2009, 02:25:15 PM
Point by point:


Despite the fact I'm increasingly laid back and chilled out the older I get, every time I hear a song by Conor Oberst I still want to punch the poxy cunt in the throat. - Win.

The new Manic Street Preachers album is surprisingly ok.
- What the...

Tina Weymouth's ass still makes me want to wobble my bottom. - Fix'd.  Not sure what "wobble" means so I'll assume it means "wreck."

"The Rain" by Oran 'Juice' Jones is the best song with the word "Rain" in the title, ever.
- You are so wrong.  Have you forgotten Missy Elliot's "The Rain?"  
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on June 05, 2009, 02:34:08 PM
I was about to jam and flat blast Conor Oberst,
but I didn't wanna mess up this thirty-seven hundred dollar lynx coat
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on June 05, 2009, 03:08:29 PM

"The Rain" by Oran 'Juice' Jones is the best song with the word "Rain" in the title, ever.
I love you.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: trixi on June 05, 2009, 06:27:22 PM

"The Rain" by Oran 'Juice' Jones is the best song with the word "Rain" in the title, ever.
I love you.
I second this!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Poncho on June 05, 2009, 11:38:56 PM
I prefer "Rain" by the Blake Babies.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on June 05, 2009, 11:50:10 PM
Gawd, am I gonna expose my 70s classic rock roots by claiming The Rain Song by Led Zeppelin?  ;D
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jonathan on June 06, 2009, 02:04:16 AM
I've got a man-crush on Josh Pyke. There, I said it.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on June 06, 2009, 12:18:14 PM
I prefer "Rain" by the Blake Babies.

Close, but Oran wins it. That said, If I were still 16 and a single man, I'd definitely want to give Julianna Hatfield a right royal seeing to.

Also Missy Elliot. And Tina Weymouth. And Kate Bush. And Jane Wiedlin. And...etc.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on June 10, 2009, 11:36:10 PM
There's this lady who works in my office.  She's our graphic designer which I'm not sure why we need one, but that's not really her fault as far as I can tell she does a really good job.

I've always suspected she was pretty hip just sorta from her profession and I guess a few other things that it's like you can't put your finger on it.  But it's like you just kinda know.  So on the one hand, I'm thinking yeah she's kinda cool but on the other hand I'm like no she's disappointingly uncool it's all unfulfilled potential.

So today I ran into her at a show.  Which is like okay someone who goes to see a show on a weeknight that bumps you up a coupla notches.  But when she saw me what she did was this:  She made sure she made eye contact.  Then she said loudly (and simply) "Good.  Good!!" and gave me an exaggerated thumbs up.  Which then immediately gave her like +100000 indie coolness cred.

Because that is like good show etiquette.  You know at a show you gotta keep the conversation simple because either someone is wearing ear plugs or their hearing is temporarily shot or both.  You can't have any sort of conversation anyway because there's all these people milling around.  Plus there's no like "Hey what are you doing here?"  It's like, accepted.  People go to shows.  It's something they do.  You should not be surprised to see someone you know there.  That was like pure veteran savvy.

I contrast this with the dude I went with.   This is a guy who is more into the nightlife scene, than the pure music scene.  So I'm guessing he knows maybe 1 or 2 TVOTR songs and is aware enough to know this is a "cool" band, but not a real indie listener, you know?  So we go to the show, and every 15 minutes he's like smoke break.  And in between smoke breaks he's all "Isn't this band the best?"  "That song was awesome!"

Thing is, he knew like everyone at the show.  Like every 5 seconds he was saying hi to someone.  I knew no one at the show, despite the fact that  this is a hip indie band and I listen to hip indie shit so theoretically this should be like totally my milieu.

Now see, ten years ago his poseur-y nature would have driven me nuts.  But now I'm just like, so what?  I don't even know if TVOTR sold out; if they did, it was just barely.  So he's not taking anyone's ticket that wanted to see them.  And he's having a good time.  Without this dude, it would just be music geek bands playing to tiny music geek audiences.  This is a dude who will go to see a band he knows nothing about.  I'm not gonna see a band I know nothing about.  And it's not like he hates music.  He goes for the social aspect, and if in the process he sees a good band then it's a bonus and hey, they get a new fan.  Plus, he's totally objective because of that.  He doesn't read Pitchfork so he has no expectation or peer pressure.  So basically, he's kind of the dude who makes bands. 

That's the whole reason you tour.  I mean, I already bought your record so me seeing you doesn't do a whole lot for you.

So anyways, I thought that was interesting how ten years ago this lady in my office would have been like, a Goddess and the dude I went to the show with would have been like asshole of the century.  And now, they're just people I'm equally happy to see at a show.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Poncho on June 11, 2009, 09:06:57 AM
I like your "grown up" assessment.  Nice.

I used to get completely pissed off when the bored frat boys would show up at a Bogart's show... a sold out show... and they would stand around screaming at each other, completely ignoring the show, playing drinking games and picking fights during the entire show.  Basically having a frat party DURING THE CONCERT I was there to see.

I've tried to take your approach now... but I have limits.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on June 11, 2009, 06:06:15 PM
I hate 311 A LOT so maybe I'm biased, but doesn't this new 311 have to be a craptastic disappointment even to their fans? 

I mean to me, Transistor sucked ass.  But at least the band thought it was cool.   Or at least they sounded like it. 

This one sounds like they're not even trying.  To say they mailed this new one in would imply they actually took the time to find pen, paper, an envelope, a stamp and look up an address.  It was like "phone messaged" in.  Not even that.  "Half-ass texted" in, maybe.




Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on June 11, 2009, 07:28:33 PM
Why would you listen to a band you hate so much, let alone listen to their new record (a record obscure enough that only the remaining 311 fans would know about) enough to formulate an opinion?

Are you training up for the next t-thon or something?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on June 11, 2009, 10:53:53 PM
It's anything but obscure.  It's in like crazysuperheavy rotation on the local "alternative station" in my car.  Which means I hear it every day going to work and every day coming from work.  

Why don't I get Sirius or something?   See, it's only a ten minute drive to and from work so it's not worth paying for Sirius.  I pretty much only hear 1 song each way plus a ton of commercials.  You would think then, that the odds of me hearing 311 would be low.  In fact it's ALWAYS 311.  I'm not lying about this-- I heard that song to and from work 4 days in a row.  8 out of 10 total plays.  For those keeping score, Pearl Jam and RHCP were the other two.  Yeah, that's new music first all right.

There's one slightly more legit alternative station I can sometimes pull in depending on the weather and where I am.  I flipped the station today after 311 came on and turns out they, too were playing the same 311 song at the same time.  I almost hit a truck.

The other choices are "We play anything... as long as it's Kenny Loggins and Stevie Nicks.  No, not Kenny Loggins OR Stevie Nicks.  Just Kenny Loggins AND Stevie Nicks*"  or the Led Zeppelin and Journey 24/7 station.







*This is not completely true.  Every once in a while we fuck up and play "Desperado"  But then we come to our senses.  You know forever we'll be doin' it.  Doin' it.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Doug on June 12, 2009, 07:26:57 AM
Thanks for the heads up on the new 311 album.  I'll have to look for it tonight.

So, you listened to the whole album or just that one song?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on June 12, 2009, 10:23:19 AM
I'm not lying about this-- I heard that song to and from work 4 days in a row.  8 out of 10 total plays.  For those keeping score, Pearl Jam and RHCP were the other two.  Yeah, that's new music first all right.

By my math, that IS new music first. 80% of their plays are from a brand new album. That's an amazingly good ratio.


:) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on June 12, 2009, 10:41:03 AM
Mostly just that one song. 

I have heard two other cuts off the album, but only once.  They were horrible to me in the exact way that every other 311 song is horrible.  So yeah, my thinking is if you like 311 you'd probably dig it although you'd probably find it a bit same ol' same ol' and not quite as good as their earlier stuff.  Typical for a band that's been around awhile.  Although again, I hate them so much and I try not to think about them often, so I'm totally guessing here

It's just this one track where I'm wondering like do 311 fans even like this?  So yeah, you should listen to it and let me know what you think of it.  I'm curious.

Here it is for those that have youtube access:

oNuk2U3vc0c



Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on June 12, 2009, 10:46:46 AM
Ooooooooooooooooh, ninteen eighty nine...

was 20 years ago.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Doug on June 12, 2009, 11:02:36 AM
Yeah, I'll have to check it out tonight.  Can't get there from here.

I've liked 311 since their first album.  Music was good, Grassroots is excellent, but then it all started to sound like the same song.  They've pretty much been relegated to my summer music collection. I can only really get into them when I'm mountain biking or it's good background music when I go camping.  I HATE the songs they do that are trying to be like full on metal.  I mostly just dig their funky riffs and little jams.  So, I recognize that they have basically just been turning out the same album over and over for the last few years, but they still hold a place in my heart and I'm interested to listen to their new stuff just to hear something a tiny bit different from them.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on June 12, 2009, 11:40:14 AM
You know what then?  You might really like this album.  I hate their rap-metal stuff, but I was always of the opinion that at least there was some energy to it.  I thought that was a large part of the appeal.

If you like mellow, what I've heard from this album is on the mellow side.  So mellow I feel like it crosses over into "not trying."  But if that was somehow part of their sound and I missed it, then this might actually be a really, really good album from them.  I mean for their tone deaf fans, anyway.

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on June 14, 2009, 12:26:28 AM
This new Great Northern album is pretty fantastic.  I just don't get why they don't get more hype. 

The knock on it to me, would be that it's very atmospheric/anthemic and there are a lot of bands doing that these days.  It's not the most original sound in the world.  OTOH, they're better than the other bands doing that, and all those other bands are being hyped to the moon.

oh, and the Grizzly Bear album is ten kinds of crap and The Decembrists is actually pretty decent but over-rated as all get out. 



Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on June 15, 2009, 08:05:10 AM
oh, and the Grizzly Bear album is ten kinds of crap and The Decembrists is actually pretty decent but over-rated as all get out.

So, that means I'd like the Grizzly Bear then...

Agreed on The Decemberists.  Decent, but after all the talk I was expecting spontaneous orgasm or something.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on June 15, 2009, 02:53:26 PM
You can try it, I guess but it might not be what you think.

It's really not that "experimental."  It pretty much is just kind of high falsetto nothings over atmosphere-y arrangements.  Something like a Sigur Ros or maybe some 4AD B-side.  Only not as keyboard-y and not as good.

I think it's the new way to put dynamics in music.  It's like people have done clean/dirty, slow/fast, loud/soft, simple/complex and changing keys.  So they need something new.  And that new thing is to do nothing at all so that then when you do anything it all it really stands out as "big."  It mostly just washes over you, then when there's suddenly some bit of melody you're like "whoa."

Just look up any review for any of these new bands.  They're all like "this is weird and quirky and not really music until suddenly the act shows they have a knack for conventional/pop/melody and it's those moments that this album great."

So what?  We should be thankful bands that bands include 3-4 minutes of "accessible" melody over an entire album?  THE WHOLE THING SHOULD BE ACCESSIBLE.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on June 15, 2009, 08:52:24 PM
I'm wary of any album that includes the description "will be great for riding in the car with the windows down in the summer".
If you like riding with the windows down in the summer in the first place, fucking Zamfir sounds good.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on June 15, 2009, 10:23:38 PM
I wonder how much of the decline in CD sales over the past 9 years has been due to the increase in DVD sales - particularly TV series.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on June 16, 2009, 03:09:01 AM
'Two Weeks' is a great song off that Grizzly Bear disc.

And E, I think video game sales should be included in that, too.

Quote from: rva
So what?  We should be thankful bands that bands include 3-4 minutes of "accessible" melody over an entire album?  THE WHOLE THING SHOULD BE ACCESSIBLE.

*applause*
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on June 16, 2009, 09:34:42 AM
There was an article in the NYTimes yesterday about how the last of the megaretailers for music in the city closed this weekend. Virgin Megastore in Union Square... They stated that it wasn't anything new that these stores were closing, but the difference here was that this was a place with the highest foot traffic possible. I only skimmed the article... but it made me think of you folks.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on June 17, 2009, 11:40:45 AM
The greatest mix ever made:

1. The Stone Roses - Driving South
2. The Stone Roses - Driving South
3. The Stone Roses - Driving South
4. The Stone Roses - Driving South
5. Matthew Sweet - Girlfriend
6. The Stone Roses - Driving South
7. The Stone Roses - Driving South
8. The Stone Roses - Driving South
9. Pulp - Common People
10. The Stone Roses - Driving South
11. The Stone Roses - Driving South
12. The Stone Roses - Driving South
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jonathan on June 17, 2009, 12:59:43 PM
MSTRKRFT's lack of vowels and blatant disregard for the rules of capitalisation offend my delicate sensibilities.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on June 17, 2009, 11:22:47 PM
There was an article in the NYTimes yesterday about how the last of the megaretailers for music in the city closed this weekend. Virgin Megastore in Union Square... They stated that it wasn't anything new that these stores were closing, but the difference here was that this was a place with the highest foot traffic possible. I only skimmed the article... but it made me think of you folks.
Reading that article prompted my random musing.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on June 19, 2009, 11:25:43 AM
I'm |-THIS-| close to downloading "Highway to the Danger Zone" from iTunes.

Talk to me, Goose.
Or maybe I should say, TALK ME DOWN, Goose.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on June 19, 2009, 11:30:10 AM
Why don't you get House at Pooh Corner while you're at it?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on June 19, 2009, 08:40:51 PM
Best heckle ever heard by twitter user "glinner" (Graham Linehan, writer of Father Ted)....

PhoenixFest93, House of Pain arrive onstage. Bloke to my left: "Play 'Jump Around' then FUCK OFF"
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Hell Toupee on June 20, 2009, 10:43:14 AM
I bought Animal Collective's "Merriweather Post Pavilion" and Passion Pit's "Manners" recently, and I'll be damned if I can't tell the difference, other than Passion Pit being more commercial (and more to my liking)...

Hmph....  ???

But then I came back to my senses, picked up Galactic's last CD, and once again falsetto-pop was scrubbed from my brain and brought me back to the land of hip-hop.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Hell Toupee on June 21, 2009, 08:10:20 AM
oh, and the Grizzly Bear album is ten kinds of crap and The Decembrists is actually pretty decent but over-rated as all get out.

So, that means I'd like the Grizzly Bear then...

Agreed on The Decemberists.  Decent, but after all the talk I was expecting spontaneous orgasm or something.

Triumph The Insult Comic Dog may be able to express it better to TV On The Radio (http://www.tonightshowwithconanobrien.com/video/clips/triumph-visits-bonnaroo-pt1-061909/1128174/)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on June 21, 2009, 04:26:26 PM
Sometimes I think the only reason Billy Corgan had Darcy in the band was so he could write "Today" and have her come in on "I'll tear my heart out" in the 2nd verse.

It was worth it.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on June 23, 2009, 02:08:52 PM
I'm |-THIS-| close to downloading "Highway to the Danger Zone" from iTunes.

Talk to me, Goose.
Or maybe I should say, TALK ME DOWN, Goose.

You do know a DJ, who most likely has every imaginable crappy song that's been popular over the last 20 years. Just in case you don't want to waste the .99 cents on a one time listen...
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on June 23, 2009, 02:54:53 PM
I'm |-THIS-| close to downloading "Highway to the Danger Zone" from iTunes.

Talk to me, Goose.
Or maybe I should say, TALK ME DOWN, Goose.

You do know a DJ, who most likely has every imaginable crappy song that's been popular over the last 20 years. Just in case you don't want to waste the .99 cents on a one time listen...
Thanks! I'm not good about downloading anything if someone sends me a link, though.
I'm an idiot like that.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on June 23, 2009, 03:23:58 PM
You can try it, I guess but it might not be what you think.

It's really not that "experimental."  It pretty much is just kind of high falsetto nothings over atmosphere-y arrangements.  Something like a Sigur Ros or maybe some 4AD B-side.  Only not as keyboard-y and not as good.

I think it's the new way to put dynamics in music.  It's like people have done clean/dirty, slow/fast, loud/soft, simple/complex and changing keys.  So they need something new.  And that new thing is to do nothing at all so that then when you do anything it all it really stands out as "big."  It mostly just washes over you, then when there's suddenly some bit of melody you're like "whoa."

Just look up any review for any of these new bands.  They're all like "this is weird and quirky and not really music until suddenly the act shows they have a knack for conventional/pop/melody and it's those moments that this album great."

So what?  We should be thankful bands that bands include 3-4 minutes of "accessible" melody over an entire album?  THE WHOLE THING SHOULD BE ACCESSIBLE.

Found this whole album pretty boring aside from "Two Weeks", so THANKS FOR NOTHING RVA.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on June 23, 2009, 05:31:48 PM
Try the new Dirty Projectors.  It is also wildly overrated and gets described as folksy-quirky, but at least there really is a little something indescribable to it.  When it annoys me, it genuinely annoys me.  And when it's good it's genuinely good.  Overall it's still pretty bad, but at least it earned it's crappiness. 

Or maybe you can get the new Regina Spektor, because I think that one sucks all kinds of ass as well.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on June 24, 2009, 09:18:58 AM
Try the new Dirty Projectors.  It is also wildly overrated and gets described as folksy-quirky, but at least there really is a little something indescribable to it.  When it annoys me, it genuinely annoys me.  And when it's good it's genuinely good.  Overall it's still pretty bad, but at least it earned it's crappiness. 

Or maybe you can get the new Regina Spektor, because I think that one sucks all kinds of ass as well.

The two Dirty Projectors songs I've heard didn't do anything for me.  Neither does Regina Spektor.

Back to the ol' drawing board!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on June 24, 2009, 09:28:37 AM
Don't get the Regina Spektor thing.  At.  All.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Poncho on June 25, 2009, 12:39:00 AM
Oddly, I really dig her.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: cuddlyevil on June 25, 2009, 01:52:09 PM
Does Chris Izaak sing in Russian? Because I'm really starting to wonder given my co-worker's current radio station choice...
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on June 25, 2009, 03:22:55 PM
Thanks! I'm not good about downloading anything if someone sends me a link, though.
I'm an idiot like that.

I do have the ability to send it as an attachment in an e-mail...
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on June 25, 2009, 04:27:22 PM
Mostly just that one song. 

I have heard two other cuts off the album, but only once.  They were horrible to me in the exact way that every other 311 song is horrible.  So yeah, my thinking is if you like 311 you'd probably dig it although you'd probably find it a bit same ol' same ol' and not quite as good as their earlier stuff.  Typical for a band that's been around awhile.  Although again, I hate them so much and I try not to think about them often, so I'm totally guessing here

It's just this one track where I'm wondering like do 311 fans even like this?  So yeah, you should listen to it and let me know what you think of it.  I'm curious.

Here it is for those that have youtube access:

oNuk2U3vc0c





That song blows. Borrrrrrrring.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: kcneon on June 26, 2009, 10:45:23 AM
After listening to the new Dinosaur Jr. I suspect J Mascis has been listening to Warren Haynes between albums.  Nice.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on June 26, 2009, 11:28:04 AM
Ugh, please don't say that.  Warren Haynes is the guy you hire when your band is ready to suck.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on June 29, 2009, 02:34:31 PM
D'oh. It's "son and heir" and "sun and air".

Wow. How Soon Is Now?
Soon enough to make a big musical faux pas to a major Smiths/Morrissey fan in the middle of polite email conversation. OUCH.

-500 cool points for LANDO!

I never looked up the words to the song. It never occurred to me that it was anything else.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on June 29, 2009, 03:03:15 PM
Y'know, I never thought "sun and air" made any sense in the context of the song, but also never put two and two together that it should be "son and heir." Now it makes sense. I'd wager this is a pretty common mistake, so I'm restoring your cool points.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on June 29, 2009, 03:09:05 PM
Y'know, I never thought "sun and air" made any sense in the context of the song, but also never put two and two together that it should be "son and heir." Now it makes sense. I'd wager this is a pretty common mistake, so I'm restoring your cool points.
I thought you were going to say you found this out when someone sang the song for karaoke. :)

Thanks! My cool points are very important to me.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on June 29, 2009, 03:21:31 PM
I'd wager this is a pretty common mistake, so I'm restoring your cool points.

Whoa, slow down there professor.  Let's not go crazy.  Maybe that just means you should be docked too.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on June 29, 2009, 03:35:58 PM
I'm not entirely sure I even have any left to be docked.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on June 29, 2009, 03:52:07 PM
I'd wager this is a pretty common mistake, so I'm restoring your cool points.

Whoa, slow down there professor.  Let's not go crazy.  Maybe that just means you should be docked too.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.

It is apparently a commonly misunderstood lyric.

Even found this quote from Johnny Marr....

"How Soon Is Now? was the one, though. I wanted to write a track with an intro that you couldn't forget, something that you knew straight away was The Smiths. In that regard it was very 'worked on'. I arrived at the studio with a demo of the whole thing, apart from the tremolo effect - though that was bound to surface on a Smiths track sooner or later, 'cos at that time I was playing Bo Diddley stuff everywhere I went. I wanted it to be really, really tense and swampy, all at the same time. Layering the slide part was what gave it the real tension. As soon as I played that bit on the second and third strings, John Porter put an AMS harmoniser on it. Then we recorded each individual string with the harmoniser, then we tuned the B string down a half step and harmonised the whole thing. The tremolo effect came from laying down a regular rhythm part (with a capo at the 2nd fret) on a Les Paul, then sending that out in to the live room to four Fender Twins. John was controlling the tremolo on two of them and I was controlling the other two, and whenever they went out of sync we just had to stop the track and start all over again. It took an eternity. God bless the sampler, 'cos it would have been so much easier! But it was just one of those great moments. When Morrissey sang the vocal it was the first time we'd all heard it. John Porter said, 'Oh, great - he's singing about the elements! I am the sun and the air...' But of course it was really, 'I am the son and the heir/of a shyness that is criminally vulgar'... A great track."
- Johnny Marr, The Guitar Magazine, January 1997

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on June 29, 2009, 04:05:23 PM
Whoa, whoa, whoa.

It is apparently a commonly misunderstood lyric.

Using sources to back up a valid point:

-200 cool points.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on June 29, 2009, 04:10:00 PM
Whoa, whoa, whoa.

It is apparently a commonly misunderstood lyric.

Using sources to back up a valid point:

-200 cool points.
Damn it.

How many points do I lose for begging?

Please, BUTTER BUTTER, PLEAAAAAAAAASE!!!!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on June 29, 2009, 11:31:28 PM
Fix'd

Using sources to back up a valid point:

Pwned.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on June 30, 2009, 08:14:49 AM
Fix'd

Using sources to back up a valid point:

Pwned.

 ;D
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Poncho on June 30, 2009, 11:49:31 AM
This has moved into sad territory.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on June 30, 2009, 11:50:27 AM
Using the word "pwned":

-1275 cool points

Begging:

-45 cool points

Moving a thread into sad territory:

+50 cool points
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on July 01, 2009, 11:34:34 AM
Booooooooooooooo...
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on July 01, 2009, 01:42:21 PM
How many times more times am I gonna have to listen to Ida Maria belt out Banana Splits Theme song?  Shit's annoying.

I'm looking at you too, Bob Marley.

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on July 01, 2009, 03:04:57 PM
During my lunchbreak at work today, I pondered making a few calls and getting a band together. My motivation for this is two-fold. Firstly, I like a lot of Americana-type stuff. That shit also sounds pretty easy to play and judging by festival line-ups this season, guarantees you a spot somewhere on the bill. Secondly, being on the bill at a festival greatly improves my chances of meeting that famously morose and whine-tastic musical midget, Conor Oberst. This would make the opportunity for me to beat the shit out of him a more realistic prospect. Everyone's a winner.

Edit to add:

I evidently spend far too much time trying to devise ways of slapping around Conor Oberst these days.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on July 01, 2009, 08:10:47 PM
I like a lot of Americana-type stuff.
Nice. It's the one genre lately that has my rapt attention.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on July 02, 2009, 04:21:54 PM
Why do the Handsome Family's lyrics make me laugh so much? I think they are pretty bloody dry songwriters.

I haven't seen a photo of Suzanne Vega in many years, but she still "sounds" like an extremely hot lady.

"Bonkers" by Dizzee Rascal is epic.

The worst thing about pub jukeboxes is not the jukebox - it's the fat, sweaty skinhead singing along to Blur's "Parklife" while wobbling his midriff in the general direction of my pint.

When I was a young teenager, I wanted to grow up to be like Kid Congo Powers.

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jonathan on July 04, 2009, 03:02:11 AM
I love "Bonkers". But it's a very polarising song. I think you either think it's epic, or utter tosh.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jonathan on July 04, 2009, 03:03:45 AM
The worst thing about pub jukeboxes is not the jukebox - it's the fat, sweaty skinhead singing along to Blur's "Parklife" while wobbling his midriff in the general direction of my pint.


But you can't blame the fat bastard - that song really speaks to him. Especially the part about getting up when he wants except on Wednesdays when he's rudely awakened by the dustman.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Hell Toupee on July 04, 2009, 06:30:09 AM
I love "Bonkers". But it's a very polarising song. I think you either think it's epic, or utter tosh.

I think liking the track boils down to whether or not you like Armand Van Helden.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on July 07, 2009, 01:02:57 PM
I love the Little Boots stuff that I'm hearing... but I keep thinking that this is SO pop-py that maybe this is equivalent of Madonna circa 1984.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: kcneon on July 07, 2009, 02:01:19 PM
Edit to add:

I evidently spend far too much time trying to devise ways of slapping around Conor Oberst these days.

Everyone needs goals, Rafe.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on July 07, 2009, 02:51:35 PM
Everyone needs goals, Rafe.

Hehe. True enough :)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on July 10, 2009, 12:21:17 AM
From a facebook quiz I just abandonded, as I can't answer.

What are your 3 favourite songs?
1.   Ballroom Blitz (The Sweet), Now Your Gone(Basshunter), Homecoming(Kanye West)
2.    Paper Planes(M.I.A), Stronger(Kanye West), Bounce(Timberland)
3.   Welcome to the Club(Manian), When You Leave(Alina and Basshunter), Rock Civilization(Headhunterz)
4.   Miz Marie(Ryan Cullen), Cook the Books(Ryan Fraley), The More I seek my solitured the less I find it(Tent Kynaston)
5.   Tail Feather(Ray Charles), Memphis Blues(W.C Handy), Its my Own Fault (B.B King)
6.   Out Last night(Kenny Chensy), Kiss A Girl(Keath Urban), You Belong With Me(Taylor Swift)
7.   Flying High(DJ. Splash), I Can Walk on Water I can Fly(Basshunter), Dota(Basshunter)

I though I knew music, but apparently I'm missing a loop or two. Apparently I only know hip hop, country, and blues.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on July 10, 2009, 07:14:46 AM
Edit to add:

I evidently spend far too much time trying to devise ways of slapping around Conor Oberst these days.

Does it make you feel better that my satellite radio has a couple of his new songs labeled as by "Conor Oberts"?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on July 10, 2009, 08:31:39 AM
"Conor Qberts"?

@!#?@!?fix'd...
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on July 11, 2009, 01:24:58 PM
Does it make you feel better that my satellite radio has a couple of his new songs labeled as by "Conor Oberts"?

It does, slightly.

What are the new songs called? "Waaah, my life is shit! I have nappy rash again" parts I-IV?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on July 21, 2009, 02:13:21 PM
I haven't been to Smith's Olde Bar in FOREVER, but I was so oh-so-happy to find that there is still FLICKERSTICK graffiti in the ladies' restroom, even after a fresh coat of paint had obviously been applied since 2001 (or whenever BANDS ON THE RUN actually happened). :)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on July 21, 2009, 02:17:16 PM
...there is still FLICKERSHIT graffiti in the ladies' restroom...

Carl's Throbbing'd
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on July 23, 2009, 11:32:17 AM
My heaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaart's on fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiire for Ellllllviiiiira!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on July 23, 2009, 02:25:54 PM
He said "Captain?"
I said "Wot?"
He said "Captain?"
I said "Wot?"
He said "Captain?"
I said "Wot?"
He said "Captain?"
I said "Wot?"
He said "Captain?"
I said "Wot?"
He said "Captain?"
I said "Wot?"
He said "Captain?"
I said "Wot?"
He said "Captain?"
I said "Wot?"
He said "Captain?"
I said "Wot?"
He said "Captain?"
I said "Wot?"
He said "Captain?"
I said "Wot?"
He said "Captain?"
I said "STOP THIS STUPID SONG FROM GOING THROUGH MY HEAD IT'S BEEN LIKE FIVE DAYS NOW!!"
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: vizzah on July 23, 2009, 04:01:16 PM
My heaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaart's on fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiire for Ellllllviiiiira!

Two related and ridiculous stories:
My very alcoholic and Appalachian grandmother decided to try out my mom's karoke system to this song. Everyone upstairs thought it was either a tone-deaf man or a cow being slaughtered. 

When I was little, I thought they were singing "red virus," not "Elvira."  I really have no idea why. 

I'm the boss of misunderstood lyrics.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on July 23, 2009, 04:08:09 PM
I can't believe I missed the cultural event that was Lynnyrd Skynnyrd/Kid Rock last night. My, my, mullets, wife-beaters and Camaros must have been all over the place!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on July 23, 2009, 04:57:42 PM
My heaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaart's on fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiire for Ellllllviiiiira!

Two related and ridiculous stories:
My very alcoholic and Appalachian grandmother decided to try out my mom's karoke system to this song. Everyone upstairs thought it was either a tone-deaf man or a cow being slaughtered. 
I love you, GMA Rose. :)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on July 24, 2009, 08:51:38 AM
Okay, this just skeeves me out. Do you ever have premonitions? I do with music. A LOT.
Dunno why, but as I was listening to woxytron3000 playing the ending guitar noise in Wussy's Rigor Mortis, for whatever reason it awakened some strange post-911 apocalyptic anarchist thought in me as I was looking out my window at the Taft building across the way, wondering what kind of damage a plane would do if it hit it, and whether the flying debris would annihilate my building as well. (Don't ask, my brain's in a post-Beer Hero haze this morning, and when it's like that I have vivid daydreams, the kind that my mind should have resolved already had I slept more.)
The very next song to come on woxytron3000? Soul Coughing- Is Chicago, Is Not Chicago.
"A man flies a plane into the Chrysler building."

Man, I gotta get more coffee in me.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Poncho on July 25, 2009, 03:04:55 PM
My heaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaart's on fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiire for Ellllllviiiiira!
When I was little, I thought they were singing "red virus," not "Elvira."  I really have no idea why. 

I'm the boss of misunderstood lyrics.

My grandmother believed the lyrics to be:

"My heart's on fire, for hellfire."
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: va-vacious on July 26, 2009, 04:45:48 PM
My heaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaart's on fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiire for Ellllllviiiiira!
When I was little, I thought they were singing "red virus," not "Elvira."  I really have no idea why. 

I'm the boss of misunderstood lyrics.

My grandmother believed the lyrics to be:

"My heart's on fire, for hellfire."

My friend was about 5 when the song came out, and thought it was "hell fired up!" (And proceeded to sing it at the top of his lungs, too!)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on August 04, 2009, 10:22:13 AM
When I hear Colin Meloy singing the chorus for A Perfect Crime and I hear "a perfect, a perfect, a perfect, a perfect..." over and over, it morphs into "perfecta, perfecta, perfecta, perfecta..." (like trifecta, I guess) in my mind.
Is this the Doppler Effect in action?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on August 04, 2009, 11:24:23 AM
Meloy Colin Dear,

When The Perfect Crime #2 comes to chorus
The song words "a perfect" bore us
Three and one times repeated
But their meaning darkly defeated
A result easily expected
From endless inversions so insipid
They are heard by frizgolf as "perfecta"
SO WE'LL ALL COME PRAISE THE INFANTA!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on August 04, 2009, 12:59:45 PM
 ;D
Thread closed.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on August 05, 2009, 12:44:37 PM
You know, I sort of thought that you were being somewhat silly in the analysis of the Decemberist's lyrics until today.  I'm not a big fan, but have The Crane's Wife on my iTunes and was struck by a reasonably timely lyric from "Sons and Daughters."  He sings/writes "we'll fill our mouths with cinnamon" and I was struck with how unpleasant that would be.  While cooking this weekend, I accidentally inhaled cinnamon dust and could not stop coughing/gagging for some time, so I am not sure why he would consider this a good thing. 

So, in short, it took me a while, but I get it now.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: kcneon on August 05, 2009, 01:48:00 PM
He sings/writes "we'll fill our mouths with cinnamon" and I was struck with how unpleasant that would be.  While cooking this weekend, I accidentally inhaled cinnamon dust and could not stop coughing/gagging for some time, so I am not sure why he would consider this a good thing. 
At least nutmeg would give you crazy dreams...I'm not sure what cinnamon would do. 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on August 05, 2009, 02:10:14 PM
I once dumped a packet of lemonade mix into my mouth, it's amazing how fast your body can purge the contents of your stomach if stimulated to do so.  I imagine that a mouth full of cinnamon would be no less unpleasant.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: va-vacious on August 05, 2009, 06:43:24 PM
Don't know where else to put this: (is it music or random musings?)

One of our local stations has the John Tesh show on at night.  The music (lot's of 80s stuff) isn't too bad, but the patter is awful! He reads random stories off the internet.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: trixi on August 06, 2009, 01:46:50 AM
Don't know where else to put this: (is it music or random musings?)

One of our local stations has the John Tesh show on at night.  The music (lot's of 80s stuff) isn't too bad, but the patter is awful! He reads random stories off the internet.
I agree totally.  Can't stand listening to him.  Flip the channel and then come back hoping it'll be a song :-)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on August 06, 2009, 07:17:32 AM
Don't know where else to put this: (is it music or random musings?)

One of our local stations has the John Tesh show on at night.  The music (lot's of 80s stuff) isn't too bad, but the patter is awful! He reads random stories off the internet.

Ethan listens to this at night as he goes to sleep.

Alex enjoys Delilah.

*sigh*
*shakes head*
*throws hands up in disgust*
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on August 06, 2009, 08:24:21 AM
Don't know where else to put this: (is it music or random musings?)

One of our local stations has the John Tesh show on at night.  The music (lot's of 80s stuff) isn't too bad, but the patter is awful! He reads random stories off the internet.

Ethan listens to this at night as he goes to sleep.

Alex enjoys Delilah.

*sigh*
*shakes head*
*throws hands up in disgust*
Proof that kids are just going to be who they are going to be.
John Tesh was somebody's little boy once.

SHUDDER.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jonathan on August 06, 2009, 11:30:00 AM
Don't know where else to put this: (is it music or random musings?)

One of our local stations has the John Tesh show on at night.  The music (lot's of 80s stuff) isn't too bad, but the patter is awful! He reads random stories off the internet.

He also has been known to play his old answering machine messages whilst on stage.
V_h7Lm7C9Nk

Douche.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: va-vacious on August 08, 2009, 06:43:32 PM
Douche, indeed! I think hell would be going to a John Tesh concert.

Delilah, while mildly annoying, is at least partially entertaining.  Tesh is not.  Poor Butter and C-fan!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on August 10, 2009, 03:20:52 AM
You know, I sort of thought that you were being somewhat silly in the analysis of the Decemberist's lyrics until today.  I'm not a big fan, but have The Crane's Wife on my iTunes and was struck by a reasonably timely lyric from "Sons and Daughters."  He sings/writes "we'll fill our mouths with cinnamon" and I was struck with how unpleasant that would be.  While cooking this weekend, I accidentally inhaled cinnamon dust and could not stop coughing/gagging for some time, so I am not sure why he would consider this a good thing. 

So, in short, it took me a while, but I get it now.

I like to subsititute 'cinnamon with 'Cinnabun.'  I smell a sponsor for the next tour.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on August 10, 2009, 10:36:44 AM
Anyone heard the new Radiohead single? It's a tribute to the last WW1 vet, who just died. (Harry Batch or something?)
I appreciate the sentiment, and the fact Radiohead whipped this out so quickly, but c'mon Thom, could you get the marbles outta your mouth when you sing? WTF does he say in that song?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on August 10, 2009, 10:42:11 AM
The last WWI vet, or the last one in Britain?  I think there are still a handful of U.S. vets around.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on August 10, 2009, 11:21:43 AM
Hmm. Good question.


Edit: per Google: it's Harry Patch. He was Britain's last WW1 vet.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: iceap12 on August 10, 2009, 01:05:09 PM
Yeah I heard the new single.  Slow and beautiful.  Classic Radiohead.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jonathan on August 11, 2009, 06:14:39 AM
The last WWI vet, or the last one in Britain?  I think there are still a handful of U.S. vets around.

And there's one more British vet, but he lives here in W.A.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: vizzah on August 11, 2009, 09:37:36 AM
Am I the only one who's noticed that Doves "Compulsion" sounds like both The Clash's "Magnificent Seven" and the beginning of "Rapture" by Blondie?

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on August 11, 2009, 11:05:52 AM
I am in the process of duping over old minidisc compilations to mp3 so that we can rid ourselves of the MD player and all the discs.

Let's hear it for..................... Pretty Boy Floyd!

Oh yes.

(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg41/Danaychee/Pretty_Boy_Floyd.jpg)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on August 20, 2009, 10:14:48 AM
I think Tinted Windows (http://www.amazon.com/Tinted-Windows/dp/B001UGGVC4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1250777566&sr=8-1) gets my vote for strangest "supergroup" lineup ever.  One of the Hansons+James Iha+Adam Schlesinger+the drummer from Cheap Trick?  Seriously?  That's just a weird group of people.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kenneth Toilethole on August 20, 2009, 11:36:47 AM
I think Tinted Windows (http://www.amazon.com/Tinted-Windows/dp/B001UGGVC4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1250777566&sr=8-1) gets my vote for strangest "supergroup" lineup ever.  One of the Hansons+James Iha+Adam Schlesinger+the drummer from Cheap Trick?  Seriously?  That's just a weird group of people.
The only one who doesn't fit from what I can see is the dude from Hanson. All the others have come from slightly "alternative" rock bands.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on August 20, 2009, 11:46:02 AM
Cheap Trick?  An "alternative rock band"?  Surely you jest.  Plus Fountains of Wayne and Smashing Pumpkins couldn't be any further apart in the whole "alternative" spectrum.

Actually, I'd say that Schlesinger and the Hanson kid come closest to common ground.

Kwiji-iwantyoutowantmeineedyoutoneedmei'mbegginyoutobegme-bo
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: kcneon on August 20, 2009, 12:21:50 PM
They're an odd grouping, but the outcome isn't bad - nice & poppy sound for summer listening, you know?

Btw, seeing the Pretty Boy Floyd pic made my day.  Sweet locks!   ;)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kenneth Toilethole on August 20, 2009, 12:52:43 PM
If Cheap Trick came out today, they would definitely be labeled as an alternative band.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on August 20, 2009, 01:03:51 PM
That's a pretty big if there, Cochise.

And yeah, KC I can imagine they might be decent to listen to.  I wasn't saying I disliked any of those people (I can even stand Hanson's recent output), or that it sounded like a bad lineup... just really weird.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Poncho on August 20, 2009, 01:04:27 PM
If Cheap Trick came out today, they would definitely be labeled as an alternative band.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on August 20, 2009, 06:40:43 PM
FYI, Fountains of Wayne were on James Iha's label when they first started.  So, there's the connection.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on August 20, 2009, 08:05:15 PM
And the middle Hanson looks like a less masculine D'Arcy, so you've got that connection too.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on August 21, 2009, 11:58:01 AM
Schlesinger and Cheap Trick are cut from the same power pop cloth.  My guess is most of FoW's big fans (not the top 40 Stacy's Mom ones) also worship the Trick's entire catalog as does probably Schlesinger himself.  And the Pumpkins always had a big pop influence.  They were somewhat misplaced as a grunge band.  I always felt like "1979" was Corgan's take on a Big Star-esque radio-friendly summer pop song.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on August 22, 2009, 03:22:10 AM
I think the Pumpkins' big influences were shoegaze.  Listen to Siamese Dream again with that in mind, and it's pretty clear.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Poncho on August 23, 2009, 03:26:46 PM
Bit o' backstory... my wife is 9 years younger than I am.  She has friends in the mid-20's range... while most of my friends tend to fall in the mid-30's range.  This isn't bad, for the most part.  We both get to blend with some people who are a tad out of our "comfort zone" and that keeps you on your toes.  We also know several couples that overlap with one spouse being closer to my age and one closer to her's.  That said, she recently became friends with a girl who is in her early 20's.  This girl is recently married to a guy close to my wife's age.  He's nice and pretty fun, but he falls into the still a frat boy zone.

Last night they invited us to a local version of a Dave & Busters or Jillian's type place.  We had a great time.  However, since my wife was the 2nd oldest person in the group of about 12-14 people... guess who was the 1st and the geriatric in the bunch?  That's ok, because I've got a babyface and I'm pretty good at bowling, pool, darts, air hockey and video games.  I wasn't too embarrassing and didn't need Centrum Silver juicing in the downtime.

Surprisingly, this place had some fun retro music playing most of the early part of the night... Bangles, 10,000 Maniacs, DM, Cure, INXS, Berlin... all while we were bowling and no one except me was really listening.

However, we go upstairs and the soundtrack is DRASTICALLY different.  They had a video wall playing so you could see the names of a lot of the artists.  Everyone was kinda bopping along and the girls were singing into their pool cues.  Poncho is just sitting there.  I had NEVER heard any of the people... until they played a Black Eyed Peas song followed by a "2009 retro-remix" of Suzy Q's "Two of Hearts" (it had a very aged version of Suzy Q dancing with the 80's version of herself in the old video, but the song sounded almost nothing like the original).  That would be the extent of my recognition... oh wait... they played a Lady CaCa song later that I didn't know, but I at least know who she is.  So 3 songs.

This girl comes over and says "You don't like this song?" referring to the current tune.  "Sorry, I don't know it."  "Oh really?  It's like the #1 song."  She bounced away.  I made mental notes of the bands/artists going by: Pitbull, Mr Evil, Inna, Elephant Man, someone named Fabulous except it was spelled wrong and I can't remember how... assume there is an x or y or z or q in the wrong place somewhere and several people named "Kid somethingorother" but none of them were Kid Rock.

So another girl and guy are standing there and they say "Girl #1 said you didn't know _____.  But you know this song right?"  "No, sorry... I don't."

~~~~the long payoff to this story~~~~~

Girl #2 says "Oh, that's sad.  You are a pretty cool guy.  It's a shame you don't have any interest in music.  We're all huge music fans.  We'll have to work on that."

At this point my wife starts laughing her head off.  She explained to them that I don't have any interest in reggaeton, rap and urban dance music... but I was one of the most "interested in music" people they could ever meet.  They turn back to me.  "But you don't know THIS?  This is popular!"

"Sorry."  I just shook my head.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on August 23, 2009, 04:47:51 PM
Don't worry about it Poncho. I worked in the damned music industry for over 20 years in England and nowadays I couldn't name you who was behind one song or who was singing what or with who anywhere I heard it.

Today's stuff is, for the best part, completely off my radar. It just 'happens'

In other random thoughts...

Ian Hunter is 70.

I'll say that again, especially for the sake of KC, Ian motherfucking Hunter is 70.

When the fuck did THAT happen?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on August 23, 2009, 06:10:42 PM
Not really directed at Poncho, but his post is made me think of how I don't get why everyone bags on Lady Gaga as being all talentless and one-hit wonder-y.  Fabolous has been around longer and probably sold a bunch more records, but they play a bunch of pop and the one person people recognize is Lady Gaga.

And it's because she's not totally cookie cutter.  She not good looking, has fat thighs and people think she might be a man, and she wears no pants and still doesn't care.  I am sure her label is begging her to put clothes ON.  What is the difference between Lady Gaga and Peaches, except that Lady Gaga is 1) way more famous because 2) she is much more talented and therefore much, much better at pulling off a similar gimmick.

She's basically straight out of the Andy Warhol/Grace Jones/Madonna trashpop/self-promotion school.  And it's deliberate, because she knows her art and pop culture history.  In fact, she probably knows more about music and art than the next 15 artists on the charts combined.
The irony is that Lady Gaga understands "ironic" and "music" better than ironic music hipsters.

That doesn't mean I want to hear "Poker Face" again, ever.  And it's not like Lady Gaga is my hero or anything.  It's not my thing.  I'm not really that much of an avant-garde fan or even an art fan.  Or really even a music fan.   But really, pop music would be whole a lot more interesting if we had five more Lady Gaga's and five less Miley-types.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on August 23, 2009, 06:30:15 PM
I was on the elliptical machine at the gym today, and the machine has one of those doodads that measures your heart rate.  The Beyonce and Shakira video came on and I noticed my heart rate had gone from 131 to 149.

I was trying to figure out if this was due more the incredible crappiness song or the incredible awesomeness of the video.   I'm pretty sure it was the latter.  Which makes me feel good about myself that I'm not driven by rage.  Well, that's not really true.
I *am* driven by rage, but at least that rage can be controlled by Shakira/Beyonce synchronized belly dancing. 

I feel like I just saw this generation's "Rock the Cradle of Love."  Pretty blah song that probably will be quickly forgotten.... by everyone except for the males aged 15-21 who will remember it forever.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Poncho on August 24, 2009, 12:07:30 AM
I just want her to put her pants on.  That's really sad for a grown man to say... but really... she just doesn't look good without pants.

Plus... how did I miss that Peaches didn't wear pants?  I remember her hair beads and the flowers in her hair and the slinky dresses... but I should've paid more attention if she wasn't wearing pants.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on August 24, 2009, 02:21:56 AM
If you have issues with Lady Gaga's pantslessness, then I think you're gonna have problems with Peaches pantslessness.  And the odds of seeing manparts are probably about the same.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Poncho on August 24, 2009, 08:54:07 AM
So she looked more like Herb?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: vizzah on August 24, 2009, 10:05:04 AM
She not good looking, has fat thighs and people think she might be a man, and she wears no pants and still doesn't care.  I am sure her label is begging her to put clothes ON. 

I totally agree that she's not exactly a looker and might have lady-balls - but fat thighs?  Really? 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Poncho on August 24, 2009, 11:00:00 AM
I don't know that I'd go with "fat thighs"... she certainly doesn't have the right body for her choices in outfits.  They make her look horrible.

That and the fact that her face looks like someone clubbed her violently with the entire ugly forest.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on August 24, 2009, 11:01:13 AM
Maybe fat is a little harsh.  She is naturally a little on the big-thighed side, but not really anything out of the ordinary in the world of normal people.  But then, normal people don't dress like that.  The average thigh probably needs more coverage than a leotard crotch.  

Kinda like how I have a pretty average guy physique, but I still shouldn't be wearing cashmere sweater vests.  Those are like manboob push up bras.  And it would be an even more grave mistake to try and bare my sweaty, floppy manboobs on a red carpet next to Usher and Justin Timberlake.  They're not going to look good by comparison.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Hell Toupee on August 24, 2009, 01:02:25 PM
So she looked more like Herb?

I'm stealing lando's GSPotD for this.

If only it were quote nested.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: kcneon on August 24, 2009, 03:07:32 PM
In other random thoughts...

Ian Hunter is 70.

I'll say that again, especially for the sake of KC, Ian motherfucking Hunter is 70.

When the fuck did THAT happen?
Insane or what?  You'd never guess by his new record.   :)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on August 25, 2009, 11:14:09 AM
From Idolator:

Apparently former Danity Kane screecher Aubrey O’Day is getting all of her musical ideas from radio stations with ’80s-centric playlists. First there was her horrific cover of Eddie Murphy’s “Party All The Time,” which at least made Murphy’s performance of the song seem like utter genius. (Not that I didn’t like it before, but holy wow.) And now she’s released a new track, “Never Fallin’,” which is about mean people on the Internet who are Just Jealous and which is based around a wholesale lifting of New Order’s “Bizarre Love Triangle.” And guess what—it even includes a reworked lyric for the “Triangle” chorus! Lyrics after the jump. Brace yourself.


Every time they see us ballin’
They get down on their knees and hate
Waiting for the day we fall off so
They can come and take our place

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on August 27, 2009, 02:25:09 PM
For years I've been trying to figure out what Ian Brown is saying at the beginning of "Elephant Stone" on the live at Blackpool video.  The best I can figure is "Sucker me you don't get your eyes wars see that gas it's true" but, even for Brown, that seems pretty random.

Any linguists out there that can crack this mystery for me? 

(he says it in the first 15 seconds of the video)

JSTkdOmsr-w
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on August 27, 2009, 03:57:54 PM
"Sucker, you don't get your eyes watered (with) CS gas, it's true"

It sounds like that, anyway.

Fucking stupid accent.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on August 27, 2009, 05:30:40 PM
I think it's actually  "Suck 'em.  You don't get your eyes watered (with) CS gas, it's true" as he throws a citrus wedge of some kind toward the crowd.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on August 28, 2009, 10:02:38 AM
That makes sense, well, as much sense as something he would say could make sense.  The lemons on their debut cover art were an homage to the '68 Paris riots when protesters would suck lemon wedges to counter the effects of tear gas. 

There are a couple of these in this concert, but this was the most perplexing.  Thanks for ending 19 years of confusion.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on August 28, 2009, 10:28:03 AM
Before Rafe posted, my guess also would have been "Sucker me you don't get your eyes wars see that gas it's true." 



Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on August 31, 2009, 01:00:37 PM
The Ass Ponys make you want to kill  (http://www.avclub.com/articles/dont-try-to-wake-me-in-the-morning-36-mostly-excel,32292/)yourself.

19. Ass Ponys, “Fingers Fall”
Chuck Cleaver’s lyrics have always read like short Southern-gothic fiction, and never more so than on this track off his former band’s debut album: Crawling inside the head of a depressed woman at three critical moments of her life, he tracks her all the way to the end. Her final thoughts are those of every confused suicide: “Around her neck and through the rafters / this is it, she’ll show the bastards / everything she said was true / and now she’ll be the envy of them all.”
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on August 31, 2009, 01:18:09 PM
Cool list.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Doug on August 31, 2009, 04:10:18 PM
I miss Trip Shakespeare
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on August 31, 2009, 04:26:46 PM
Related, not random thought:

Anyone know a link to buy the best Ass Ponys album? I have a live one here which is excellent, but wouldn't mind being pointed toward their most accomplished studio album. I forget all the titles. I'm a bit rubbish like that.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: va-vacious on August 31, 2009, 09:59:13 PM
Ooh! Our PBS station is going to be showing a Leonard Cohen concert on Sept 13.  How frickin' awesome!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 01, 2009, 01:21:39 AM
Related, not random thought:

Anyone know a link to buy the best Ass Ponys album? I have a live one here which is excellent, but wouldn't mind being pointed toward their most accomplished studio album. I forget all the titles. I'm a bit rubbish like that.

I personally would recommend Lohio.  Amazon sells it in mp3.  You should get the newest Wussy album as well.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: vizzah on September 01, 2009, 09:45:38 AM
It's hard to say, because I genuinely like all of them through and through - no track skipping.  I don't say that about many records.  I agree with Kwyj's recommendation of Lohio, then I'd go for Some Stupid with a Flare Gun.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jonathan on September 01, 2009, 09:54:55 AM
I think it's actually  "Suck 'em.  You don't get your eyes watered (with) CS gas, it's true" as he throws a citrus wedge of some kind toward the crowd.

I'd have to agree, except I'm pretty sure it's "Suck on 'em..." etc., etc. It all makes perfect sense once you know about the Paris riots thing.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jonathan on September 01, 2009, 09:55:38 AM
From Idolator:

Apparently former Danity Kane screecher Aubrey O’Day is getting all of her musical ideas from radio stations with ’80s-centric playlists. First there was her horrific cover of Eddie Murphy’s “Party All The Time,” which at least made Murphy’s performance of the song seem like utter genius. (Not that I didn’t like it before, but holy wow.) And now she’s released a new track, “Never Fallin’,” which is about mean people on the Internet who are Just Jealous and which is based around a wholesale lifting of New Order’s “Bizarre Love Triangle.” And guess what—it even includes a reworked lyric for the “Triangle” chorus! Lyrics after the jump. Brace yourself.

Yeah, I don't know who that is.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on September 01, 2009, 10:23:17 AM
Related, not random thought:

Anyone know a link to buy the best Ass Ponys album? I have a live one here which is excellent, but wouldn't mind being pointed toward their most accomplished studio album. I forget all the titles. I'm a bit rubbish like that.
I should just make you a mix. I was thinking last Friday that I want to give the whole world an Ass Ponys mix CD and make them LOVE Chuck & Co.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 01, 2009, 10:54:29 AM
In a totally non-random, completely related note.  Ford Maddox Ford was the fattest poet that ever lived.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on September 01, 2009, 11:02:53 AM
Poetically speaking, William Carlos Williams totally kicks Ford Madox Ford's ass.

That said, neither can touch Bruce Bruce's comedic stylings.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 01, 2009, 11:22:46 AM
And lets not forget the boxing prowess of George, George, George, George, George, George, Georgetta and Freeda George Foreman.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on September 02, 2009, 07:56:57 AM
The ubiquitous Hitler meme and the Oasis split.. this really made me laugh

Q6IyGAvbOs4
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on September 03, 2009, 09:28:17 AM
It was the third of September/That day I'll always remember, yes I will.

61U90Pqo-rU
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 03, 2009, 09:31:32 AM
Can't see the video so I don't know if the Temptations song you're quoting is really what it's about but that's my favorite Temps tune.  Am I weird for that?

Reflections is my favorite Supremes song, which is also probably weird.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Poncho on September 03, 2009, 11:40:16 AM
It is.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jonathan on September 03, 2009, 11:44:24 AM

Reflections is my favorite Supremes song, which is also probably weird.

No it's not.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on September 03, 2009, 07:12:50 PM
What?  Th' Faith Healers sort of reformed and played ATP this year?!? 

I must've had my head down a Hippy Hole.

Does this mean more shows in the future?  A US tour and a chance for Foolsgold to see them beyond grainy Youtube footage? 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 03, 2009, 10:20:30 PM
Finally watched the Temps video.  Never really thought of that as a dance tune before... still don't.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Poncho on September 03, 2009, 11:51:43 PM
Just FYI... my "it is" was an answer to the video, not whether it was weird.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on September 04, 2009, 09:51:06 AM
The thematic content, growth and development of Rap music is quite similar to Country music.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 04, 2009, 10:17:30 AM
Is rap all about drinkin', cheatin, and pickup trucks these days?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jonathan on September 04, 2009, 10:45:38 AM
The thematic content, growth and development of Rap music is quite similar to Country music.
Is rap all about drinkin', cheatin, and pickup trucks these days?

I thought country music was all about pimpin' (and the difficulties thereof) and Escalades.


(Funny side note - one of the kids in my Year 3 health class, when writing about the differences between what boys and girls like to do, wrote down "cuntry music" as the type of music he liked to listen to. My response? "Why don't you go ahead and put an o after that c there?"

The sheet was going home in the kid's portfolio, after all.)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on September 04, 2009, 11:29:43 AM
Is rap all about drinkin', cheatin, and pickup trucks these days?

Yup on the drinking and you can expand that to drug taking too (them old timey singers liked their cough syrup.) 

The cheatin' is common enough as is the desire to sex up some sweet young thing.

The ownership of a fine automobile is central to many songs in each genre.  So, is fighting, establishing one's manhood, escaping poverty through any number of means (often illegal.)

I was out on a jog the other day and a song from the 30's came up and the guy was talking about wishing
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on September 04, 2009, 02:19:15 PM
"cuntry music"

Cuntry Music = "Hong Kong Garden" or Phil Collins
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on September 05, 2009, 04:27:50 PM
Posted especially for RVA...

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Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on September 07, 2009, 12:59:41 AM
Christ, Violator is a great album.

19 years later, it still holds up.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on September 07, 2009, 09:44:53 AM
The bloke from the record store that stinks of piss in town is getting married. He sold me some vinyl for fuck all on saturday, simply because he's a nice guy and is evidently delirious about his impending wedlock situation. Record shops may be dying out, but those that are left remind me of why I was drawn to them in the first place. XTC records for a couple of quid are a good thing, and the rambling conversation about various musicians/bands was a rare treat.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on September 11, 2009, 10:37:14 AM
Until a few minutes ago, I thought the chorus for Phoenix's "Liztomania" was:

Like a rhi, like a rhino
not easily offended.


Come to find out, it's actually:

Like a riot, like a riot, oh
I'm not easily offended.


It made sense.  Rhinos have thick skins and would be pretty impervious to insults or slurs.  Sure, if you called one a hippo, you might have to fend off a charge, but otherwise, they're pretty easy going as large, grassland mammals go.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on September 14, 2009, 08:46:40 AM
The guy who sang "People Who Died" can now add himself to that list.

RIP Jim Carroll (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/14/books/14carroll.html?hpw)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on September 14, 2009, 10:46:06 AM
Every time I hear the term "singer-songwriter" I think of the scene from Animal House where Belushi grabs the dude's guitar on the staircase and smashes it to smithereens.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on September 14, 2009, 07:00:08 PM
Trent Reznor and Carrot Top should tour together.  Besides having 24 inch pythons, who wouldn't want to go to a Nine Inch Carrot show?

Or, would it be, Carrot Nails?  Or Top Inch? 

Trent could sing about the blackness of his soul and Carrot Top could demonstrate by pouring oil over some Dover sole. 

I'd buy the t-shirt.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on September 14, 2009, 10:23:13 PM
I will never be able to think of Drake as a rapper. He'll always be Jimmy Brooks from Degrassi to me.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on September 14, 2009, 11:24:43 PM
Was Pink trying out for Cirque du Soleil on the VMAs?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: vizzah on September 15, 2009, 08:48:32 AM
Was Pink trying out for Cirque du Soleil on the VMAs?

And was she wearing a nude mesh shirt, or was her nip just covered with that heart?  The feller and I went back & forth about this the entire performance.  I say she was bare except for the pastie. 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on September 15, 2009, 09:06:04 AM
It's 1976.

CR was a teenager, going to 'dances' and waiting for the 'slowies' (known as "the erection section") so that he could ask a young lady for a grabber.

One of those 'slowies' was invariably Dr Hook's "A Little Bit More", a song which shuffled to the surface on his iPod this morning..

In retrospect the lyrics to this song (http://lyrics.filestube.com/song/81fc2d3580c4431303e9,A-Little-Bit-More.html) are really REALLY creepy.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on September 15, 2009, 09:42:47 AM
I wonder which detergent is best for getting dirt off your shoulders?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on September 15, 2009, 11:01:27 AM
I wonder which detergent is best for getting dirt off your shoulders?
No detergent needed. Just blare that song while you're driving real fucking fast (Thank you, The Wolf) with the windows down. That's what I do.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on September 15, 2009, 02:18:35 PM
Re: Sunday Bloody Sunday

Dear Bono,

Four minutes and forty seconds.

Hope that answers your question.

All the best,
The Gold
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on September 15, 2009, 03:50:31 PM
When Jakob Dylan sings "she said it's cold, it feels like Independence Day", where on Earth are they?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on September 15, 2009, 09:05:58 PM
Hello to Siouxsie & the Banshees....

(http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/fail-owned-pop-tarts-fail.jpg)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jonathan on September 16, 2009, 08:52:54 AM
I will never be able to think of Drake as a rapper. He'll always be Jimmy Brooks from Degrassi to me.

Whaaaa?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jonathan on September 16, 2009, 08:54:33 AM
When Jakob Dylan sings "she said it's cold, it feels like Independence Day", where on Earth are they?

Australia. It's fucking freezing on July 4. Well, maybe not freezing, but certainly in the low single digits.


That would be centigrade, before you write in and tell me that single digits is below freezing. I know how your minds works.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jonathan on September 16, 2009, 08:55:08 AM
Hello to Siouxsie & the Banshees....

(http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/fail-owned-pop-tarts-fail.jpg)

Pop-tards, indeed. That's an ESPN Instant Classic.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on September 16, 2009, 09:03:47 AM
When Jakob Dylan sings "she said it's cold, it feels like Independence Day", where on Earth are they?

Australia. It's fucking freezing on July 4. Well, maybe not freezing, but certainly in the low single digits.


That would be centigrade, before you write in and tell me that single digits is below freezing. I know how your minds works.
See, that's my point. Why would Jakob Dylan, born in the U.S., celebrate Independence Day in another country? The song doesn't mention what country they're in. He just mentions something about a county line somewhere. They'd have to be in Alaska.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jonathan on September 16, 2009, 09:14:37 AM
Well, you asked where they were, and I gave you one possible answer. Sorry you didn't like it.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on September 16, 2009, 09:19:23 AM
I was thinking Argentina myself.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on September 16, 2009, 11:22:49 AM
I'm thinking the lyric just means that they have a difference of opinion.

She says it's black.
He says it's white.
She says it's cold.
He say it's hot like motherfunkin' Independence Day hot.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on September 16, 2009, 11:42:07 AM
Or she was being ironic to make a point.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on September 16, 2009, 12:42:19 PM
Or she was being ironic to make a point.
Don'tcha think?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on September 16, 2009, 01:00:08 PM
And I don't get it. It's out of place in the tune, as if just thrown in because irony is/was all the rage at the moment.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on September 16, 2009, 02:11:16 PM
I don't think those two lines are part of the same sentence.

Like it's NOT:

She said, "It's cold, it feels like Independence Day" 

but rather:

She said "It's cold. It feels like Independence Day and I can't break away from this parade'"

or maybe even

She said, "It's cold." 
It feels like Independence Day and I can't break away from this parade.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 16, 2009, 02:23:07 PM
I agree.  I don't think she's saying that the cold makes it feel like it's Independence Day.  She's saying it's cold and then she's saying her life feels like a parade she can't get out of.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on September 16, 2009, 02:34:16 PM
Schizophrenics often suffer from altered temperature perception, so maybe she's suffering from an undiagnosed or, at least, unrevealed to Dylan mental illness.  Maybe it is Independence Day, but she perceives it as being cold even though it's hot and humid. 

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 16, 2009, 02:37:00 PM
Maybe her perception of humidity is okay?  Like, she didn't say it's cold and dry like Independence Day.  Maybe she thinks it's cold and MOIST?  How are we to know?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Poncho on September 16, 2009, 07:31:33 PM
In "The Last Resort" by The Eagles I've always wondered about the intent of this:

"Some rich men came and raped the land, nobody caught 'em
Put up a bunch of ugly boxes, and Jesus people bought 'em
And they called it paradise, the place to be
They watched the hazy sun, sinking in the sea"


Is it "Jesus People bought 'em" like religious zealots?  Or a message of exasperation?  "and JESUS! People bought 'em!"

You would think it might be "Jesus People" from the use of Jesus in the next set of lines:

"You can leave it all behind and sail to Lahaina
Just like the missionaries did, so many years ago
They even brought a neon sign: "Jesus is coming"
Brought the white man's burden down, brought the white man's reign"


But... is it?  There is a complaint of how ugly they are and such that leads me to think exasperation.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jonathan on September 17, 2009, 11:39:29 AM
Maybe her perception of humidity is okay?  Like, she didn't say it's cold and dry like Independence Day.  Maybe she thinks it's cold and MOIST?  How are we to know?

So are you saying that she's a victim of evaporative cooling? Because I think you might be on to something there.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on September 17, 2009, 11:44:43 AM
It's gotta be that global warming.
Jakob Dylan. What a visionary.
If it wasn't for Al Gore inventing the internet and hogging all the attention, Jakob could have asserted his rightful place as the first icon to bring this environmental condition to general awareness.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on September 22, 2009, 01:56:08 PM
Brett Anderson (Suede, London Suede, that one band without (London) Suede's rhythm section) really could stand to sing more dramatically, especially in those first couple of records.  Sure Daddy's Speeding, but is it due to the Animal Nitrate, Sleeping Pills or because he's So Young?  Having an adequately expressed delivery would help me better understand.

Unrelated, is Damon Albarn English?  If he is, his accent is almost imperceptible. 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jonathan on September 23, 2009, 08:51:11 AM
I'm pretty sure Damon Albarn is from Mali.

Also, Graham Coxon is from Blue Ash, Alex James is from Moldova, and Dave Rowntree is from Uglystan, which is right next to Rangaville.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on September 25, 2009, 01:26:10 PM
I always hear Mandy doing the "putting the indie in independent" spots on woxy.
I like Mandy. She prolly didn't write the tag line or anything, but it makes no sense to me.
Isn't "indie" essentially just an abbreviation for "independent"? That would be kinda like saying "putting the sci-fi in science fiction".
Makes-a no sense-a.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on September 25, 2009, 02:01:25 PM
Yeah, that's always bugged the crap out of me as well (http://www.randomville.com/Daily/index.php/topic,1569.msg399188.html#msg399188).



Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kenneth Toilethole on September 25, 2009, 04:20:02 PM
You know what? It really would suck to see your mama run over by a train when you went to pick her up on the day she got out of prison.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on September 26, 2009, 09:29:08 AM
You know what? It really would suck to see your mama run over by a train when you went to pick her up on the day she got out of prison.

It would be deserved for writing that goddam song.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on September 26, 2009, 01:38:50 PM
That wouldn't be nearly enough.  Let's not forget that fucker stuck us with "City of New Orleans" and "Go Cubs Go" as well.  

Then again, he did get leukemia when he was 21 and died at 36.   :(
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Hell Toupee on September 27, 2009, 05:01:41 AM
One of my friends just showed me the video for Rammstein's newest (piece of garbage) song, "Pussy", and oh my God....  :o

It's a straight up porn film featuring the band "members" in close ups that made me wish I could scrub what I had just seen from my brain.

The lyrics are absolute trash, which is too bad, since the music is kind of catchy.

Still though, OMG MY EYES!!!!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on September 27, 2009, 10:32:30 AM
So, the inevitable finally happened. A nation mourns:

http://www.nme.com/news/chas-and-dave/47445 (http://www.nme.com/news/chas-and-dave/47445)

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on September 27, 2009, 11:19:06 AM
On WOXY Vintage right now as I type: The Crystal Method - Keep Hope Alive.


Musing 1: this is a good song.
Musing 2: Still (!)
Musing 3: this is the music to the opening scene in The Replacements, a late 90s action film starring Chow-Yun Fat in his first US film. And the movie is kinda badass even if not THAT awesome. But this music makes me think of Monsignor Fat kicking asses in a nightclub. And that's pretty cool. I like.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jonathan on September 27, 2009, 12:17:56 PM
When did Chow-Yun Fat become a senior priest in the Catholic Church?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on September 29, 2009, 12:05:17 PM
Haha. I could have called him "Sir Fat" which would have been just as entertaining.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on September 29, 2009, 04:48:42 PM
So, do two guys in Phoenix have hairlips? I try to google some info on it and only find stuff on Joaquin Phoenix's hairlip.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on September 30, 2009, 12:21:51 PM
Try harelip.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on September 30, 2009, 03:14:49 PM
I really dislike Thao Nguyen and the Get Down Stay Down.  But she went to my high school and my college, and they all have Richmond connections. In fact, the group formed at the coffee shop six blocks from my house.  Plus she's Asian.  So I feel sort of obligated to cheer for them.  But I'm still sullen about it.

I'm pulling for them the way the cheerleaders in Smells Like Teen Spirit are pulling for Nirvana.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on September 30, 2009, 03:26:42 PM
Okay, I just heard that new tune "Easy", and I gotta fight away the overwhelming feeling that the whole Asian-chick-as-cutesy-lead-singer-for-Indie-bands craze is wearing the Fonzie jacket on water skis.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on September 30, 2009, 03:37:56 PM
RMT:

I find, as I grow older and considering my profession, that my musical tastes have reverted to more pedestrian fare. Rarely do I enjoy anything remotely indie rock anymore, and I'm into singles as opposed to albums, with rare exceptions. I find myself really digging current rock bands more and more, which I never thought I'd say. If it's got a loud guitar riff, catchy chorus, and some guy that can kinda scream/sing, I dig it. Indie cred = vanquished.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on September 30, 2009, 04:28:28 PM
It cracks me up how like 95% of indie now is totally rhythm-driven.  Almost every song is built on maybe 2-3 loops and some chanting.  And then all the indie kids bag on rap. :rolleyes:

Seriously.  frizgolf posted something on WOXY this week lamenting the loss of guitar.  I'd  settle for hearing someone sing.

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on October 01, 2009, 07:55:20 AM
It's become hip or ironic or something to be as minimalist as possible, as if musicianship for the love of it is anti-indie.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on October 01, 2009, 09:53:20 AM
Holy crap! I just realized ShakeIt Records' web site is not blocked here at work, and I can listen to their online listening station!  
:disco:

It's like having their in-store listening station at my desk.
Woohoo!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on October 01, 2009, 10:00:28 AM
Well, dang. 30 second snippets only. But still, it plays. And the web site's not blocked.
Still a win against WebSense nazis.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on October 01, 2009, 12:05:47 PM
I have no idea why every once in a blue moon, WOXY will just randomly play "Ace of Spades," but I whole-heartedly approve. 




edit: ....and now they throw in a bit of Cult.

friz-- are you listening right now?  Someone's trying to bring back some guitar for you!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on October 01, 2009, 12:55:26 PM
Nope. I was out to lunch.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on October 01, 2009, 04:41:23 PM
RMT:

I find, as I grow older and considering my profession, that my musical tastes have reverted to more pedestrian fare. Rarely do I enjoy anything remotely indie rock anymore, and I'm into singles as opposed to albums, with rare exceptions. I find myself really digging current rock bands more and more, which I never thought I'd say. If it's got a loud guitar riff, catchy chorus, and some guy that can kinda scream/sing, I dig it. Indie cred = vanquished.

I should clarify. The bands I'm digging are bands that hipsters would take a shit all over me for. Shinedown, Seether, Theory of a Deadman, Incubus, SafetySuit, Red Jumpsuit Apparatus, et. al. Hell has frozen over, because I even dig the new Creed song.

I've always had a soft spot for anything that rocked, so I think I'm reverting back to my comfort zone.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on October 01, 2009, 05:25:19 PM
I know what you mean.  I was at the gym the other day and they played Limp Bizkit and I was glad to hear it.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: va-vacious on October 01, 2009, 11:04:41 PM
As I was listening to the college guy rock station tonight, they played Mazzy Star's "Fade in to You". Not something I thought they would even own, let alone play. Everything Wherle listed is on their playlist, so imagine my surprise!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on October 02, 2009, 01:09:22 PM
I've been asked to join an 80s hair metal cover band. This should be interesting...
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on October 02, 2009, 01:48:44 PM
You still got the leather chaps pants?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on October 02, 2009, 02:35:11 PM
Leather pants? Check. Hair? Ironic, eh?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on October 05, 2009, 12:42:20 PM
It's been a long time since I've listened to Lush and they are sounding really good today.  So much so that I've been GISing pictures of Miki.

This, of course, is going to kick off a week where I listen to little more than 2nd string shoegaze bands with hot chicks in them, of which, there are plenty.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on October 05, 2009, 12:51:51 PM
I've been asked to join an 80s hair metal cover band. This should be interesting...
AWESDOME!!!!!!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on October 05, 2009, 03:35:26 PM
All of the shoegaze bands with hot chicks in them were 1st string.  It's the 2nd string Britpop bands what had the hot chicks.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on October 05, 2009, 03:56:19 PM
Always bass players.
It's almost cliche.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on October 05, 2009, 08:29:27 PM
A friend and I have a long running joke that shoegaze = MBV.  Trying to mention another band results in feigned indignant Pitchfork approved eye rolls and "oh my God, tell me you're kiddings."

That joke works great in a bar after a few drinks.  Not so much on the internet.

But, those chicks in Chapterhouse were damned sexy and no way, under any rating system, can Chapterhouse be considered 1st string.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Doug on October 06, 2009, 08:29:00 AM
There were women in Chapterhouse?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on October 07, 2009, 07:33:32 AM
Rock music doesn't need The Next Beatles or even The Next Oasis.
Nope, what rock needs is The Next Faces.
I was always a fan, and I hate that today's rock fans only know the Do Ya Think I'm Sexy Rod Stewart. Hie thee to some old Faces records and know ye what rock music should be. Had Me A Real Good Time came on my Slacker player before I got out of the car this morning, and I'm ready for the day, dammit.
Rod Stewart, Kenney Jones, Ronnie Lane, Ronnie Wood, Ian McLagan.
Man, what a band. Their predecessors Small Faces were no slouches, but the band hit stride when Steve Marriot left to form Humble Pie. It was a good split. One really good band split into two really great bands.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on October 10, 2009, 02:41:57 PM
There were women in Chapterhouse?
Hehe.

On a rainy night in Reading, Doug, they sure looked like it sometimes.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on October 10, 2009, 02:45:31 PM
I'm not a big fan of the Flaming Lips, but my favourite drum sound on virtually any record has to be on "Race for the Prize", or whatever that song was called. I heard it earlier today for the first time in ages and it's a cracking backdrop to the song, tremendously uplifting.

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on October 10, 2009, 09:24:19 PM
Flannel shirts are associated with grunge, and yet if you look at old photos of Kurt Cobain you will often see him wearing cardigans.
Cardigans are associated with wussy twee British bands, and yet if you look at old photos of wussy twee British bands, you will often see them wearing flannel shirts.

Discuss.


(http://vox2.cdn.amiestreet.com/album-art/Kurt-Cobain%27s-Cardigan-by-The-Pains-of-Being-Pure-at-Heart_Vzbg2QBorXEx_full.jpg)
Non-Seattle, non-British twee band The Pains of Being Pure at Heart sporting both a cardigan and a flannel shirt on the cover of the band's single "Kurt Cobain's Cardigan."
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on October 11, 2009, 12:46:05 AM
I was walking around tonight and I saw a girl wearing jeans, a denim shirt, and a jean jacket over the denim shirt.  Do you think she was going to buy some records by the Status Quo?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on October 11, 2009, 07:26:43 AM
I was walking around tonight and I saw a girl wearing jeans, a denim shirt, and a jean jacket over the denim shirt.  Do you think she was going to buy some records by the Status Quo?
Did she go down, down, deeper and down?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on October 11, 2009, 09:55:51 AM
I was walking around tonight and I saw a girl wearing jeans, a denim shirt, and a jean jacket over the denim shirt.  Do you think she was going to buy some records by the Status Quo?
Did she go down, down, deeper and down?
Haha.

Did she want to, turn you on to, anything you really want to?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on October 12, 2009, 06:52:48 PM
This Jemina Pearl album is like the thinnest of lines away from being horrible in about a thousand different ways.  Does that make it just barely not horrible, or does it actually make it great?



Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on October 15, 2009, 08:49:09 AM
There is a girl who comes into the parking garage every morning with music blaring. Not bad music, I think it's reggae. Nothing against her or anything, because I like to blare it from time to time. But what puzzles me is that she always inevitably turns it off in the middle of the song.
What music is so good that you gotta blare it, but you still turn it off in the middle? If I'm cranking a tune, it's a favorite. I wanna hear the whole thing.
Cornfuses me.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kenneth Toilethole on October 15, 2009, 09:15:22 AM
This Jemina Pearl album is like the thinnest of lines away from being horrible in about a thousand different ways.  Does that make it just barely not horrible, or does it actually make it great?
I don't know if I would include that thin line.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Doug on October 15, 2009, 10:16:43 AM
There is a girl who comes into the parking garage every morning with music blaring. Not bad music, I think it's reggae. Nothing against her or anything, because I like to blare it from time to time. But what puzzles me is that she always inevitably turns it off in the middle of the song.
What music is so good that you gotta blare it, but you still turn it off in the middle? If I'm cranking a tune, it's a favorite. I wanna hear the whole thing.
Cornfuses me.

You don't tolerate people well, do you?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on October 15, 2009, 10:35:07 AM
What music is so good that you gotta blare it, but you still turn it off in the middle? If I'm cranking a tune, it's a favorite. I wanna hear the whole thing.
Cornfuses me.

What does how much she likes the music have to do with what time she needs to be where she's going?  Generally when I arrive someplace it's because I need to be there at that time.  Doesn't much matter what I'm listening to the car is being shut off and the radio with it.

In general, I don't listen to anything I don't like, what am I supposed to do, time my listening around what time I'm arriving?  I'll be at work in 2.5 minutes, oh well, can't listen to that 3 minute song.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on October 15, 2009, 10:58:41 AM
Nothing against her or anything

You don't tolerate people well, do you?
What part of "nothing against her or anything" didn't you understand?

I'm just saying, and I thought I was clear about it, that it doesn't bother me that the music blares at all. I also pointed out that I have nothing against the music choice. If that's intolerant, I wanna know exactly how?

She shows up every day a few minutes after 7:00. She has music blaring. Such a great song to her that the entire world needs to know she's listening to it. Then she turns it off before it's done. Must not be such a great song after all, no?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on October 15, 2009, 11:16:08 AM
I have two theories on this:

If it's a different song every day, then maybe she just likes to listen to stuff real loud. 

If it's the same song every day, it's because she probably heard it a bunch of times already on the way in.  I do that all the time.  There's a song I really want to hear, so I'll put it in CD player and listen to it.  I'm into it, but I keep hitting repeat so by the time I get to the office I can turn it off in the middle of the song even though I was listening to it loudly and intently.

If it weren't reggae, I might say that this is the song she uses to get fired up in the morning and maybe she really only needs to hear that one cool part.  But since it is reggae, I can't see that being the case. 


Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on October 23, 2009, 11:03:43 PM
When was the last time you watched the MC Hammer video? I mean, seriously, this is good stuff.
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And you know, I think stick-figure guy might be on to something.

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/mc_hammer_slide.png)

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on October 28, 2009, 11:35:27 AM
Genius singer (http://www.spinner.com/2009/10/21/flowered-up-singer-liam-maher-dies-at-41/) has fucked off, fucked off and died.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: vizzah on October 28, 2009, 12:27:54 PM
When was the last time you watched the MC Hammer video? I mean, seriously, this is good stuff.


Better yet, a Hammer dance flash mob.

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Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Bronzetree on October 28, 2009, 01:51:25 PM
I don't think I'll ever get tired of flash mob dances.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on October 28, 2009, 02:13:34 PM
That can't be a real flash mob.  The choreography and sync-ness are way too good for that not to have been carefully rehearsed.  Plus the dancers are all way too awesome.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on October 30, 2009, 01:07:17 PM
Oddly, given circumstances, I almost associate the Stone Roses more with Brighton than with Manchester.  It's where I bought their greatest hits, the 7" singles and the retardedly weighty boxset and where I saw Ian Brown in concert.

The best association I have with them in Manchester is a pub jukebox that skipped over my "Fools Gold" selection. 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Poncho on November 06, 2009, 09:27:16 PM
Anyone have any clues as to what these albums are?  Guesses... nudges... thoughts?


FINALLY FIGURED THEM ALL OUT... THANKS



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I know that I know the last one... I just can't get it off my tongue.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kenneth Toilethole on November 06, 2009, 09:32:56 PM
I can't tell if you're being serious Poncho.

Anyways, Willie Nelson will go home with at least 2 grammys for his last album. You're hearing it here first.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Poncho on November 06, 2009, 09:33:58 PM
I am being serious.  I'm helping a friend with cd cover identification in a contest... i've done soooo many of them, this is the end and i'm stuck.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 06, 2009, 09:50:51 PM
That last one is Radiohead's Hail to the Theif.  I hate RH but you'd have to be living under a rock to have not seen that.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Poncho on November 07, 2009, 12:20:29 AM
I own that.  Thanks man!

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on November 17, 2009, 10:31:56 AM
This  (http://becausemidwaystillarentcomingback.blogspot.com/)is my newest favorite work distraction.  Loads of "oh yeah, I barely remember them" moments and a nice walk down Nostalgia Drive (just north of Memory Lane.)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on November 17, 2009, 04:41:36 PM
This  (http://becausemidwaystillarentcomingback.blogspot.com/)is my newest favorite work distraction.  Loads of "oh yeah, I barely remember them" moments and a nice walk down Nostalgia Drive (just north of Memory Lane.)
Yeah, fantastic link, that. Great find! I think I've read the whole thing over the past couple of days. That blog could essentially be my mid-teens to early twenties. A lot of top class bands,venues and people get a mention. Rolicking read.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on November 17, 2009, 04:59:44 PM
I was very excited the other day when I was cleaning out an old box that hadn't been opened since I moved to my grad school apartment and I found a copy of Heart Throb's "Cleopatra Grip."

Then I opened the case, and no CD.:(
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on November 17, 2009, 05:11:59 PM
I was very excited the other day when I was cleaning out an old box that hadn't been opened since I moved to my grad school apartment and I found a copy of Heart Throb's "Cleopatra Grip."

Then I opened the case, and no CD.:(

That's sad, RVA.

Whenever I look at my vinyl, I always see the holes left behind by long absent records. Where for art thou, The Caretaker Race?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on November 23, 2009, 06:19:41 PM
I have this weird quirk where someone's age doesn't matter to me so long as their age is represented in years rather than in birthdate. Like, I meet someone and they say "yeah, I'm 21." I think, "Okay, cool... I remember being 21. I can relate." And then that's fine. But if someone says to me, "I was born in 1988" then I think "Oh man oh man you are so young" and instantly create a barrier between us b/c of their birthyear. I don't know why this matters, but it does.

Which brings me to this band that WOXY sometimes plays: Kids of 88. I don't know much about them - it looks like it's a duo from Auckland and I don't feel like doing more research. But I'm instantly assuming that they were born in 1988, hence the name. And that's where my problem lies. I don't want to connect with them b/c I'm thinking "man they are TOO young for me" or something irrational like that. Yet... if they were Kids of Auckland or something else, then I'd totally be fine with them. And this makes no sense b/c it should be all about the music.

And if I really strip it down to just the music - that song "Sugar Pills" is pretty good after all. So why can't I get over how young they are? I've listened to a gazillion bands that are actually younger than them... I mean, I've seen Smoosh 3 times. I just never actually thought about what year they were born in.

I am weird.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on November 23, 2009, 08:15:11 PM
Extremely.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on November 25, 2009, 10:42:48 AM
In this age of doctors over prescribing for every little ache and pain, it's refreshing to know that Chuck D doesn't rhyme for the sake of ritalin. 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on November 25, 2009, 11:50:40 AM
GSPoTD. YEAAAAAAAAAH, BOOOOOOOOYYYEEEEEEEE!

Chuck wants you for his GSPoTD army or whatever.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on November 25, 2009, 04:27:08 PM
I love Hatcham Social. Some of the songs on their album sound like how I'd imagine a Strawberry Switchblade/Family Cat/Brilliant Corners hybrid would, if they had gotten together and released an album in 2009. It's a bloody good record.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on November 26, 2009, 08:43:56 PM
Today at work, sadly, I heard a segue of Phil Collins songs on the radio. It was indescribably shit. To try and blank the sound out, I tried to envisage a bald rock star throw down in the school playground of pop music, featuring other follically challenged musicians taking out Buster with their superior musical output.

Collins is there, behind the bikesheds playing "Jesus he knows me". First challenger is Vince Clarke from Yazoo, DM and the Assembly. He wanders up, Casio keyboard in tow, and fronts Collins with a blinding rendition of "See You". Collins feints to his left and counters with a 17 minute version of "Mama". The competition and all on-lookers are annihilated by a wave of pretentious, asinine shit in music form. The shockwaves are so great, that Greenland sinks into the ocean (score!), Margaret thatcher miraculously regains her mind (Booo!), and Millions of homeless people die in a gout of bilious flame (I blame Thatch.).

Next up is that bloke out of Midnight Oil. Collins counters the superb rendition of "Beds are Burning" with a signed photograph of him during the Genesis days, sporting a beard and a fucking smug smile a mile wide. Midnight Oil fellow cries bloody tears, Aboriginies everywhere decide to never wander within a country mile of any property owned by Phil Collins. The cunt wins again.

Desperate, I try and figure out how to rid the earth of Collins for all time, at the hands of a fellow musical slaphead. then it comes to me. I call forth this little fellow....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yai4bier1oM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yai4bier1oM)


...and all of a sudden, Phil's roof is leaking. The only thing in the air tonight is his arse being musically booted into the stratosphere by the above songwriter's magenta dyed, brushed suede left brothel creeper.


Thanks, Brian. For that, I forgive you for U2, and all that Joshua Tree bollocks.




Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on December 04, 2009, 09:21:32 AM
Good Lord.  A friend is going to ATP this weekend and I just looked at the full line-up. (http://www.atpfestival.com/events/nightmare2009/lineup.php)  If I lived in London and was fast enough, I'd be going/losing my hearing.

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: matt on December 04, 2009, 06:32:03 PM
You and me both, brother.  I saw that the other day and peed my pants a little.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on December 07, 2009, 06:59:52 PM
Yeah. What a line-up!

On a different note, Ted Leo is playing here next tuesday. In a pokey little boozer. Unbelievable. I have no idea what is going on here, but there seems to be a tangible effort to get decent bands to play in our quaint city. I aim to investigate further. When I told a mate about it, he simply said, "That's great, that is".

Not been to a gig on a school night in fucking ages. Brilliant.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on December 08, 2009, 01:18:09 PM
(http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/wapocorrection120309.jpg)

A full week after you ran the article?  Don't you see how late they reacting?!?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on December 09, 2009, 09:32:54 AM
You know, I sort of miss Cerys Matthews.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on December 09, 2009, 03:44:28 PM
(http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/wapocorrection120309.jpg)

A full week after you ran the article?  Don't you see how late they reacting?!?
Would have been GSPoTD if I'd seen this yesterday. YEAAAAAAAAAAAAH, BOYYYEEEEEEEEE!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Hell Toupee on December 10, 2009, 01:00:29 PM
Nice little write up on Wussy in Cincinnati Magazine (http://www.cincinnatimagazine.com/article.aspx?id=83631) for those interested. (I'm sure it's been posted elsewhere...)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on December 10, 2009, 01:28:21 PM
Man, I fucking love Chuck Cleaver.

“That’s what I get for being in a band with three people who could fit on a charm bracelet,” he says.

Do we know how they met better than they do? Or are they just too afraid to say they met on the internet? ;)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on December 10, 2009, 03:02:04 PM
Do we know how they met better than they do? Or are they just too afraid to say they met on the internet? ;)

I gotta admit, Julie and I always dance around that one when people ask us how we met.

Chuck cracks me up.  The Pittsburgh Post Gazette asked him how he came up with the name Wussy, his answer?  "Hoobastank was already taken."

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08080/866331-388.stm
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: MissKitty on December 10, 2009, 03:03:08 PM
Man, I fucking love Chuck Cleaver.

Me too!
Quote
Do we know how they met better than they do? Or are they just too afraid to say they met on the internet? ;)

Haha! you know what a big chicken Chuck is!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on December 12, 2009, 12:54:52 AM
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Riverside, motherfucker

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Riverside, motherfucker

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Riverside, Riverside, Riv-riv-riv-riv-riversi-riv-riv-riv-riv-riv-riversi.  Riverside. Riverside.  Riverside.  Riverside,  motherfucker


WHY? :(
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Hell Toupee on December 12, 2009, 01:34:55 AM
Sounds like someone's in a club listening to Sidney Samson?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on December 30, 2009, 11:09:02 PM
Shit, Rowland Howard (Birthday Party) died from liver cancer.  He was only 50.

This one stings.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on December 31, 2009, 01:47:36 PM
Shit, Rowland Howard (Birthday Party) died from liver cancer.  He was only 50.

This one stings.

I hadn't heard anything about it. That's fucking sad to read.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: dirk on December 31, 2009, 08:50:42 PM
Having just watched (well had on while I did other stuff) and hour of Oasis in concert, they really did have some decent songs. That said, every good song they had was a slow one, and their attempts at rocking out were all pathetic.  I will take Blur any day of the week over Oasis.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Hell Toupee on January 07, 2010, 12:24:23 AM
The future of music, according to Tom DeLonge in an interview with members of Vampire Weekend, is talking on a webcam with lasers going off around you. (http://www.kempa.com/2010/01/04/absolutely-surreal-excerpt-from-a-new-yorker-profile-of-vampire-weekend/)

Man, Blink-182 must've really did a number on his mind.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on January 07, 2010, 03:20:25 AM
Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on January 07, 2010, 12:37:52 PM
*shrug* Modlife is a pretty good idea.  Not like DeLonge is the only one that's thought of it, but still.

And DeLonge really does have White Stripes (and Raconteurs and Dead Weather and Third Man Records) signed up to Modlife... and it's pretty good.

25% of profits is flat-out absurd for what DeLonge admits is merely a "pre-packaged website" that probably some Vampire Weekend fan would be willing to put together for free (aggregated twitter, some stock video clips and a cool blog with lasers), but if he is really serious about automated ticket selling and pay-for-content delivery and some of the other stuff... he's not totally crazy.  Maybe 15% would be more like it.

Anyway, the point is DeLonge is not as dumb as he seems.  I think he's pretty good at understanding fans, and pretty good at running a business.  Or at least has people around him who are.  Or at least has moments of clarity if not brilliance in between the green dragons and the laser blog talk.  He's made a good living being a hustler.


Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on January 27, 2010, 07:30:14 AM
I'm looking forward to the upcoming Rock Band: The Arcade Fire game.

It's going to be expensive as shit though, what with all those instruments in the pack like the xylophone, the giant organ, the hurdy-gurdy, and 3 drum kits.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on February 03, 2010, 08:52:08 AM
Gee, I wonder just what the headline will read if Fall Out Boy (http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/music/newsid_10050000/newsid_10056600/10056699.stm) do break up?

Don't tell me, let me guess.....
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on February 03, 2010, 06:35:49 PM
John Mayer was killing it on the Twitter regarding the FOB.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on February 04, 2010, 12:41:08 PM
Dear Crazy 'Crazy Ex-Girlfriend' Listener in my office,

You know Miranda Lambert put out a new album, right?  Actually it's not even that new, but it is newer than 'Crazy Ex-Girlfriend.'  So wouldn't it be nice to hear some different Miranda Lambert songs now and again.  It's a good album... even better than 'Crazy Ex-Girlfriend,' I promise.

Okay, but since you insist on still listening to and SINGING the same album for the last four years, could I point out to you that everybody dies FAMOUS in a Small Town?  It is not "Everybody dies FATAL in a Small Town."  'Everybody Dies Famous in a Small Town' is actually the name of song.  So you know... that should be a clue. 

Sincerely,
Your coworker who does not who Pink is

PS. Little girls are made of gunpowder and lead.  Not "gunpower and heads."
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on February 04, 2010, 03:16:55 PM
I'm notoriously terrible at understanding lyrics, just ask my wife.  There's no excuse in the case where she's getting it wrong and it's the title of the song but for the rest of it I'd have to defend her, some people just can't make stuff out that well.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on February 04, 2010, 03:37:31 PM
I was driving back from a lunch errand and was listening to the local "play everything" radio station.  They played "One Night in Bangkok" and it struck me how indecipherable (to me) a lot of the lyrics are. 

Hell, it was only within the last couple years did I realize that he says "I get my kicks above the waistline, sunshine"  not "I get my kicks above the waistline, suction."

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: va-vacious on February 04, 2010, 09:50:41 PM
either of those would be appropriate, I guess.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on February 07, 2010, 09:14:30 PM
On the basis that no-one seems to give a toss how many members of a band are dead, I'd like to nominate The Ramones for next years Superbowl Half-Time show.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on February 08, 2010, 09:41:33 AM
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ARRRRR-CADE, AR-CADE FIRE
ARRRRR-CADE, AR-CADE FIRE
WAKE UP!

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I'm so tired
Of this ad

If you didn't run it all the time,
it might not
be so bad

Butyoudoanditspissingmeoffandnowyou'rerunningitagain!!!

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Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on February 08, 2010, 07:14:32 PM
All the money they made from that went to Haiti, jerkus mcgerkus.  ;)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on February 11, 2010, 11:00:50 PM
There's a cover of The Church's "Under The Milky Way" that's found its way to a car commercial (or car accessory?). I heard it playing in the background at my gym today, too. It has a female vocalist.

Anyone know what band this is?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on February 12, 2010, 12:37:30 AM
That would be Sia for a Lincoln MKT.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on February 12, 2010, 01:17:23 AM
Hah, really? And to think that I've even seen her and I didn't even recognize her voice. Oh well - my stupid strikes again.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on February 12, 2010, 09:29:25 PM
I was finishing up a run at the gym today when I heard one of the most amazing gym vocalizations I've ever heard.  Usually, I hear the gasping, the grunting, the "push through it-s," and the strangely orgasmic noises of the guy on the rowing machine.  Today's blue ribbon winner was some guy playing squash.  I'm not sure if he lost or won a big point, but he shouted out an almost perfect rendition of intro part of the Shamen's "Ebeneezer Goode."

5htF4JSc9Z0

I doubt it was intentional on his part, but it did make me smile a bit.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on February 23, 2010, 05:40:46 PM
Last night I called up my dad and I was all "So what'd you eat?"  And he was like "Aaah, we were lazy so we went to the video store and got some fast food on the way... oh wait, you should ask your mom."  So he puts on my mom on the line.

RVA:  Hey ma, dad said to ask you where you ate?
Mom:  At the Pizza Hut!
RVA (suddenly realizing exactly where they went and where this is going): *sigh* Where?
Mom:  At the Taco Bell!
RVA:  Say what?
Mom:  At the combination Pizza Hut and Taco Bell!
RVA:  You were at the Pizza Hut?
Mom:  We were at the Taco Bell!
RVA:  You were at the combination Pizza Hut and Taco Bell?

etc. ::)

So today my sister calls me and the first thing I say is "Hey, you should call up mom and ask her where she ate." >:D




Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on March 01, 2010, 03:03:19 PM
Fuck, Guru is in a coma following a heart attack (http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2010/03/01/rapper-guru-falls-ill/?hpt=T2). 

Fingers BIG TIME crossed.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on March 01, 2010, 04:54:20 PM
For all the later "I want my MTV" shit, Dire Straits' best album is still their debut. Knocks ten bells of shit out of anything they did afterwards.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: MissKitty on March 02, 2010, 08:16:49 AM
For all the later "I want my MTV" shit, Dire Straits' best album is still their debut. Knocks ten bells of shit out of anything they did afterwards.

My personal favorite is Making Movies, although my favorite song is probably Industrial Disease (from Love Over Gold).
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on March 02, 2010, 09:59:51 AM
It's too bad "Walk of Life" and "Money for Nothing" were/are so overplayed, and also that they suck rather badly.  Because the second side of Brothers in Arms is actually really good.

Making Movies is probably my favorite album as well.  But really, there's at least 2-3 fantastic songs on every Dire Straits album (including On Every Street) but it's hard to listen to any one of them all the way through.  Their poppier stuff sucks bad, and sometimes Knopfler gets too infatuated with country.  And their really good stuff is either too depressing or a little too sleepy-bye to listen to for 45 minutes.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: matt on March 06, 2010, 10:51:43 AM
3/6 Daily Deal: Invisible Touch by Genesis, featuring the title track, plus the hits "Tonight, Tonight, Tonight," "Land of Confusion," "In Too Deep," and "Throwing It All Away." Get it for $2.99 today at Amazon MP3.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51UoN9smFdL._SL500_AA280_.jpg)

http://www.amazon.com/Invisible-Touch-2007-Remaster/dp/B00122X2U0/ref=dm_fb_genesis_dd

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on March 06, 2010, 11:13:43 AM
What is this, the weekend of the Toilet?  I had to endure two separate conversations last night about how, yeah the Toilet's stuff sucks, but Genesis was good with Gabriel.  Two people I call friends pulled that on me last night.  This all stemmed from the fact that my local put "But Seriously" on the jukebox and Rafe's evangelical girlfriend is a big fan. 

Also, it is a scientific fact that the Toilet is never more punchable than in that Invisible Touch video.  My word, isn't he just such a cheeky chappy?  Filming Super 8 videos, missing drum cues, singing into drum sticks, mugging for the camera?  Fucking genius that is.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: MissKitty on March 06, 2010, 06:28:13 PM
While we are discussing crap we hate...

CR and I were at the Levee yesterday afternoon and since it was such a nice day we were stood along the railing overlooking the river by Brothers Bar & Grill. I turned to him and said, "You know, first it was only Jefferson Hall I had to worry about, but now Brothers and Bulldogs have opened here and they all play the same sorta crap and I'm getting really concerned about the higher than average probability of hearing Journey while we are here."

I swear that less than 30 seconds later what comes on but fucking SEPARATE WAYS. I stormed off far enough for the Levee's piped music to drown it out. I'll take "Fly, Robin, Fly" any day. Fucking hell! It was like they'd overhead me or something. I hate Brother's Bar & Grill even more now.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on March 08, 2010, 09:43:57 AM
Unreal.  Mark Linkous (Sparklehorse) killed himself. 

I can't even form the words...
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on March 08, 2010, 11:37:11 AM
You ever read Breece D'J Pancake?  It's about the most depressing shit ever.  It makes Raymond Carver seem like a Hallmark card.  You can finish one of his stories in about 10 minutes, but you will be depressed for like 10 days.

Mark Linkous was a huge Breece D'J Pancake fan.  And I suppose it would be one thing if Linkous simply like depressing stories or that grim Southern Gothic-y writing style.  But I think the reason he liked Pancake so much was because he pretty much was the guy in all those Pancake stories. 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on March 08, 2010, 11:44:18 AM
For all the later "I want my MTV" shit, Dire Straits' best album is still their debut. Knocks ten bells of shit out of anything they did afterwards.

My personal favorite is Making Movies, although my favorite song is probably Industrial Disease (from Love Over Gold).

Two men say they're Jesus. One of them must be wrong.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on March 08, 2010, 06:19:44 PM
Supposedly Linkous killed himself after he received a text message...
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on March 09, 2010, 03:01:46 PM
This all stemmed from the fact that my local put "But Seriously" on the jukebox and Rafe's evangelical girlfriend is a big fan. 

She is? I had absolutely no idea. I think it's high time I strenuously made a few things crystal clear to her Holiness.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: matt on March 10, 2010, 12:44:07 AM
Supposedly Linkous killed himself after he received a text message...
A text message about what?  The Knoxville PD confirmed that he shot himself in the heart in an alley by his friend's house, but why?  Just so messed up... reminds me of the Elliott Smith tragedy...
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on March 10, 2010, 03:59:38 AM
No idea.  His friends asked him what it said/who it was from, but he said he didn't want to talk about it.  He went upstairs for a while, came back down, and then went in the alley.

What could that have said that made him so upset?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on March 10, 2010, 11:09:44 AM
It could easily have been nothing, man.  The guy was just seriously unhappy.  I think he probably suffered from clinical depression along with some drug issues and he genuinely had a pretty grim upbringing and life. 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on March 12, 2010, 05:04:10 PM
Purevolume.com's Top 20 Unsigned Bands.

http://www.purevolume.com/top_unsigned_2009

Anyone heard of any of these? Any good? I haven't heard of any of them.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on March 20, 2010, 03:20:40 PM
"It's a great album for rolling down the windows in the summer" tells me nothing about the album you're reviewing.
Something like "imagine Manic Street Preachers, The Doors, and My Morning Jacket had a baby" tells me what to expect. You know, is it electronic? Guitar driven? Shoegaze? Norwegian Death Polka?
The mere fact that it's warm enough to roll down the windows after being cooped up all winter makes Barry Manilow sound better. (Well, almost.)
Plus I don't drive with my windows down. The only time I come close is when I drop the whole top on the convertible. Then I have a hard time hearing the speakers any way.
I'm an air-conditioning person. Plus, I like to hear the nuances in the music.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on March 20, 2010, 04:23:17 PM
I'm listening to woxy vintage this afternoon. They just went from a station ID by a guy with a British accent - who could that be? ;) - into Peek-A-Boo. I laughed hysterically!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on March 20, 2010, 06:31:43 PM
Google Books has every back issue of SPIN up for free for viewing.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on March 20, 2010, 08:11:09 PM
I'm listening to woxy vintage this afternoon. They just went from a station ID by a guy with a British accent - who could that be? ;) - into Peek-A-Boo. I laughed hysterically!

I thought I specifically had it written into my contract that would never, ever happen. Sorry folks, WOXY may now have to go the wall as I sue the station for every last cent that they own.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Hell Toupee on March 20, 2010, 11:27:18 PM
I'm listening to woxy vintage this afternoon. They just went from a station ID by a guy with a British accent - who could that be? ;) - into Peek-A-Boo. I laughed hysterically!

I thought I specifically had it written into my contract that would never, ever happen. Sorry folks, WOXY may now have to go the wall as I sue the station for every last cent that they own.

If that's true, that's fantastic.  :D
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: trixi on March 20, 2010, 11:29:10 PM
Hysterically appropriate Ella...wish I'd have heard it!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on March 22, 2010, 12:33:13 PM
RIP Alex Chilton.

I didn't know he was even alive, but he isn't anymore. Too bad.

I never listened to Big Star much, but I really enjoyed the Replacements and I know he had a big influence on them.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on March 22, 2010, 12:40:18 PM
RIP Alex Chilton.

I didn't know he was even alive, but he isn't anymore. Too bad.

I never listened to Big Star much, but I really enjoyed the Replacements and I know he had a big influence on them.

Yes,that was very sad news. Certainly a favourite of mine. A friend pointed out the other day that it was sad he didn't end up passing away in Memphis. that would have been right and fitting.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on March 22, 2010, 12:43:38 PM
About 15 minutes ago, I blew up my other speaker in the car. I was listening to "Mousetrap" by Ride at the time. Those shoegazers certainly didn't mind letting it go in the studio. What a classic album their second one is.

Loz, Gardener, you cunts owe me a new speaker.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on March 23, 2010, 04:32:55 PM
I'm listening to woxy vintage this afternoon. They just went from a station ID by a guy with a British accent - who could that be? ;) - into Peek-A-Boo. I laughed hysterically!

I thought I specifically had it written into my contract that would never, ever happen. Sorry folks, WOXY may now have to go the wall as I sue the station for every last cent that they own.

Dammit, should have recorded it.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on March 23, 2010, 04:56:11 PM
I'm listening to woxy vintage this afternoon. They just went from a station ID by a guy with a British accent - who could that be? ;) - into Peek-A-Boo. I laughed hysterically!

I thought I specifically had it written into my contract that would never, ever happen. Sorry folks, WOXY may now have to go the wall as I sue the station for every last cent that they own.

Dammit, should have recorded it.

Blimey, my jokey words last week now take on a whole new level of meaning don't they? *nervous swallow*

Blame Siouxsie for the demise of WOXY. Ceremoniously burn her records, CDs, tapes and her.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: kcneon on March 23, 2010, 05:47:46 PM
I'd missed that...what a great lead in!   :D

Blame Siouxsie for the demise of WOXY. Ceremoniously burn her records, CDs, tapes and her.

You must be slipping, CR, if there are any physical copies of Siouxsie left anywhere!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: trixi on March 23, 2010, 11:30:30 PM
I'd missed that...what a great lead in!   :D

Blame Siouxsie for the demise of WOXY. Ceremoniously burn her records, CDs, tapes and her.


You must be slipping, CR, if there are any physical copies of Siouxsie left anywhere!
Twizzle gets pretty hostile with CR over at my house, most likely sensing he might destroy my CDs and LPs.  Good job Twiz :D
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on March 24, 2010, 01:03:33 PM
They call her Nicki Minaj because she's not even worth listening to unless AT LEAST two dudes are involved...
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on March 27, 2010, 12:14:15 PM
I haven't messed with lala in like forever.  But today I noticed that AM is "following" me.  Then I felt like I should immediately like fire up some cool space-y obscure indie pop band so as to make myself worthy.  But then again, AM is following like 13,000 people so it probably doesn't matter.

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: va-vacious on March 27, 2010, 02:19:54 PM
Last night I went to the local Irish Pub, and the owner and his friends were playing thier usual Friday night set.  My friend pulled me over and asked if I'd ever heard of the Lovin' Spoonful.  I said yes, though I couldn't name any songs off the top of my head.

"well, the bassist from the Lovin' Spoonful asked the owner if he could sit in and play with them tonight."  And I look at the band, and yup, tonight they have a bassist, which they haven't had before.

So this morning I do some sleuthing, could it really be this guy?  And yes, it was - pictures match, and the current bio has him living 15 minutes away. 

so, kinda cool to relax to music played by a member of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame! (for free!)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on March 27, 2010, 06:06:40 PM
That story reminds me of a Modern Family plot-line.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on March 28, 2010, 12:00:59 AM
I'm a terrible indie rock fan, as I know so little of Wilco's catalog. Embarrassing little, as I learned tonight.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Hell Toupee on March 28, 2010, 11:32:45 PM
Damn you XM Radio for sticking Kelis' "Acapella" in my head all day.  :pirate:
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: clemsonfan on March 30, 2010, 10:31:18 AM
I've had "Giving Up the Gun" by Vampire Weekend stuck in my head for two days now.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on April 22, 2010, 10:53:11 PM
I'm obsessed with this video from The Joy Formidable for the song, "Whirring." I've watched it about 15 times.

baNMHNblAMU

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on April 23, 2010, 10:57:56 AM
They look cold. Kinda fun at the end, tho.

How do I embed that thing?

Hit reply instead of using the Quick Reply at the bottom of the screen, and there's a button for youtube.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on April 23, 2010, 11:13:10 AM
Eno/Byrne's "Everything that Happens will Happen Today" (http://www.everythingthathappens.com/)just gets better and better and BETTER with every listen. More earworms than you can shake a schtick at.

"This groove is out of fashion
These beats are 20 years old
I saw you lend a hand to
The one's out standing in the cold
"
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on April 23, 2010, 11:44:21 AM
They look cold. Kinda fun at the end, tho.

How do I embed that thing?

Hit reply instead of using the Quick Reply at the bottom of the screen, and there's a button for youtube.

I don't know why I didn't figure that out last night. Oh wait, yeah I do. Alcohol might have been involved.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on April 23, 2010, 12:21:28 PM
I'm obsessed with this video from The Joy Formidable for the song, "Whirring." I've watched it about 15 times.

Their song "The Last Drop" is solid gold.  SOLID GOLD.

No, I'm not joking.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on April 23, 2010, 01:39:53 PM
I'm obsessed with this video from The Joy Formidable for the song, "Whirring." I've watched it about 15 times.

Their song "The Last Drop" is solid gold.  SOLID GOLD.

No, I'm not joking.

That's a great one too.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Doug on April 23, 2010, 03:08:09 PM
Am I a bad person for liking Ke$ha?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on April 23, 2010, 03:24:02 PM
Bad person?  No.  Am I disappointed in you?  Yes.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Doug on April 23, 2010, 03:46:14 PM
I dunno'.  Ever since I saw her on Saturday Night Live last weekend, I can't get that music out of my mind.  It's like somebody secretly slipped me some crack and now I'm craving something and I can't explain what it is.

Hopefully it will go away soon.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on April 23, 2010, 03:58:01 PM
I decided some time ago that there is a major difference between catchy and good.  Miley Cyrus's Party in the USA is catchy, it is not good.  I cannot be blamed for getting something catchy stuck in my head, or finding myself reluctant to turn the dial.  It is catchy, and that sort of thing does have an appeal... it doesn't make it good music and it doesn't mean that I like Miley Cyrus.  Sounds like you have a similar thing going with Ke$ha.

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Doug on April 23, 2010, 04:03:10 PM
As long as we got that straight.  I'd hate to think you were dissappointed in me.   :pirate:
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Hell Toupee on April 23, 2010, 05:53:38 PM
I'm obsessed with this video from The Joy Formidable for the song, "Whirring." I've watched it about 15 times.

Their song "The Last Drop" is solid gold.  SOLID GOLD.

No, I'm not joking.

Is this song that you're unreeling supposed to fit the way that I'm feeling?

(http://theblogbloglog.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/solid-gold.jpg)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on April 30, 2010, 03:16:08 PM
Wow, I just realized that Steve Miller's "Take the Money and Run" might be the most amateur songwriting I've ever heard.  It's not like I heard it for the first time today, but today was the first time I paid attention to the lyrics.  It got me interested, so I tracked down some more Steve Miller lyrics and am flummoxed how this guy made a decent living.  Musically, they aren't any great shakes, certainly nowhere in the same league as their contemporaries and those lyrics.  Jesus, I'm actually a bit offended how ridiculously paperthin they are. 

I'm not saying that I was ever a good, or even adequate songwriter, but I certainly put a bit of thought into my words, not just cram an idea into the song just because it rhymes.  I get it, he wants to be a storyteller, but his stories are stuff like my Uncle Jerry would tell me: they lack any detail or drama, they are often incoherent and fractured and they always make me hope that it will come to an end soon.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on May 01, 2010, 05:06:51 PM
Wow, I just realized that Steve Miller's "Take the Money and Run" might be the most amateur songwriting I've ever heard.

Yeah, but it was a smart business plan. :P
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on May 05, 2010, 11:13:54 PM
Lady Gaga is coming to Raleigh in September. I came across the prices today. The top tier is $185. Who pays that much for Lady Gaga?!  :o
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: trixi on May 05, 2010, 11:17:33 PM
I'd pay that much for someone to make her stop singing. :-D
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on May 05, 2010, 11:19:51 PM
Eddie Murphy?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Hell Toupee on May 10, 2010, 11:53:30 PM
After listening to The Dead Weather's "Sea of Cowards", I find it to be the exact opposite of "Horehound" in terms of it being a better album as a whole, but lacks in any direct song standouts like "Horehound" had. In other words, "Horehound" felt like a singles album, but the new one sounds better when you listen to it all the way through with no one song standing above the others. Just seems odd to me; not sure why. The only thing I could have had less of was the Edgar Winter "Frankenstein" vibe, but overall "Sea of Cowards" is decent.

On the other hand, I picked it up with the new Keane album... and that is miles better than their last 80's-experimental outing. Although if you hated their last album you might still be a little averse to this because there are some elements of it left (synths mainly, but it's structured better than "Perfect Symmetry").
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 11, 2010, 07:37:43 AM
Man, that last Keane album was awful.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on May 13, 2010, 01:27:33 AM
--Jade?
--RVA?
--Do you remember that day you fell outta my window?
--I sure do.  You came jumping out after me.
--Yeah well thanks for turning that into THE MOST ANNOYING SONG EVER.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on May 13, 2010, 01:38:35 AM
Today I was listening to The Current or Slacker or something and Mumford and Sons came on.  So I switched to another internet station, and Mumford and Sons came on.  So I switched it to Pandora or whatever and Mumford and Sons came on.

I was like that's crazy how can three different internet sources all be playing Mumford and Sons?

They weren't.  What happened was apparently every time Little Lion Man comes I turn it off or switch stations.  So then next time I come back to that station that song is still cached/buffered so I have to listen to the next 30 seconds of it.

Prior to this moment, if you had asked me what I thought about Mumford and Sons, I would have said they were alright. But apparently I actually hate them.


Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on May 15, 2010, 03:37:23 PM
The new The Bird and the Bee album is totally stupid and pointless as it is awesome.  I'm not going to buy it, but I think I've already listened to it on Rhapsody like 500 times.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on May 15, 2010, 05:13:11 PM
--Jade?
--RVA?
--Do you remember that day you fell outta my window?
--I sure do.  You came jumping out after me.
--Yeah well thanks for turning that into THE MOST ANNOYING SONG EVER.


I don't like you any more.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on May 15, 2010, 09:25:45 PM
You know, I actually kind of like the rest of the album even if it seriously reeks of hippy. 

I used to even like that song. It fits in with the general vibe of the album while at the same time serving as a counterpoint to some of the more anthemic, big-sound, orchestral stuff.  And the weird.   It just doesn't work by itself.  Especially not hearing it like 5 times a day.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on May 17, 2010, 12:41:47 AM
...you want to talk about seriously reeking of hippy...

Have you seen the video for Home?

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on May 17, 2010, 07:24:05 PM
Today I when I was driving home from work I heard Al Stewart,  And then right after that, they played The Spinners.

Then the DJ came on and said "Can you link these two songs?"  And I was like "Alan Parsons!  I'm a rock trivia God!"

Only it turned out that I had switched stations in between those two songs and forgot about.  So it was actually The Spinners and some other douche-y song.  I don't care what the stupid link was, because they *should* have played Spinners and Al Stewart, and the answer should have been that:

Alan Parsons Project produced "The Year of the Cat" by Al Stewart whose title track mentions Peter Lorre which is weird because I just said I wanted him to be my GPS voice and the album cover for "Year of the Cat" is done by Hipgnosis, as is "Dark Side of the Moon" and "Eye in the Sky" both of which were also produced by Alan Parsons although contrary to the assertion of certain Randomville writers Alan Parsons does not sing the title track to "Eye in the Sky" but rather Eric Woolfson, who also sings "Time" which is the song that Jason Lytle likes and which is on the album "A Friendly Turn of the Card" which is the same album that has "Games People Play" on it which shares the same title as The Spinners song "Games People Play" also known as ""They Just Can't Stop It the (Games People Play)" which is the other song you just played and is also the song from which Pervis "12:45" Jackson got his nickname and Pervis Jackson is dead but today was his birthday.  And *that* is how those two songs are linked.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on May 17, 2010, 07:56:44 PM
I kind of, sort of want to get drunk with you right now.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Hell Toupee on May 17, 2010, 10:03:53 PM
I kind of, sort of want to get drunk with you right now.

He's ahead of you, I think.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on May 17, 2010, 10:26:08 PM
I kind of, sort of want to get drunk with you right now.

I want him to join my trivia team on Sunday nights.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on May 25, 2010, 11:09:27 AM
Remember when CDs used to come in big boxes? Does anyone still have any of those? I think the only one I managed to save was Beastie Boys "Check Your Head". I'm sure my dad still has plenty of those since he was (kinda) smart enough to keep all that stuff.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 25, 2010, 11:29:49 AM
I kept the ones from my Beatles CDs for years thinking they'd be worth something some day.  I eventually threw them away.  I don't see any evidence of them being worth anything now, so I guess getting rid of them was an okay call.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on May 25, 2010, 11:30:41 AM
There is a collage of a bunch of longboxes I did at my parent's house (assuming they still have it.)  

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on May 25, 2010, 05:41:00 PM
I used to cut up the longboxes and then stick them on my dorm wall using poster putty.  Between me and my roommate I think I had two walls pretty much totally covered one year. 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: trixi on May 25, 2010, 06:12:32 PM
I have a couple of them still.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: matt on May 25, 2010, 06:14:46 PM
I used to cut up the longboxes and then stick them on my dorm wall using poster putty.  Between me and my roommate I think I had two walls pretty much totally covered one year. 
I did the same thing.  They all has big grease stains on the corners from the putty after being up so long.  I still had them in a bin until I threw them out last year when I moved.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: mik on May 28, 2010, 10:30:38 AM
I wish I had saved the long boxes from the cd's I purchased. I thought it was pretty neat packaging............
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on May 28, 2010, 12:54:21 PM
If guitar strings were children, then I am pretty sure that Richie Havens would be arrested for abuse after performing Freedom.

o-d5x-CiTUs
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on May 28, 2010, 04:14:18 PM
Kiddy fiddling virtuousity aside, great tune :)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on June 02, 2010, 01:12:46 AM
I went out today wearing the WOXY "corporate radio sucks" shirt which I rarely wear because I think that slogan is stupid.  But I digress. 

So ANYWAYS, for whatever reason at least three people came up to me and remarked on the shirt, which led to rather awkward conversations. 

"Oh corporate radio sucks, eh?  Man, you are so right.  What do you listen to?" 
"WOXY eh?  I've never heard of them.  I'll give them a listen." 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on June 02, 2010, 06:02:31 PM
You could possibly argue that corporate radio sucks even MORE now that woxy is gone. You know, if corporate radio wasn't so prevalent in our society today and it was still pre-1996 laws, then perhaps woxy would still be around.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on June 04, 2010, 12:11:30 AM
And what Dan means is on the FM, and not Internet-only.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on June 04, 2010, 08:26:51 PM
Christina Hendricks, you don't have to sell your hand and your leg.  There's an easier way, if you know what I mean.  Call me.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on June 05, 2010, 12:32:21 AM
Hahah. Thanks for that. Without your comment I never would have seen that vid. It's entertaining for sure - even if I barely heard the actual song.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on June 05, 2010, 04:05:10 PM
It's entertaining for sure - even if I barely heard the actual song.

heh.  If I had to summarize that Broken Bells album in one sentence, that would be it.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: trixi on June 06, 2010, 07:02:03 PM
I'm wondering what the odds were of both my torturethon songs playing on the radio back to back.  Worst was that since I was at the pool, I had no control over changing the station or turning it off.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on June 07, 2010, 08:28:45 AM
The Stereophonics are the Nickleback of moderately indie Welsh rock, but I always had a bit of soft spot for their drummer, Stuart Cable.  After all, if you can piss off that dwarf lead singer enough to be kicked out of that band, you must be doing something right.  A bit sad this morning having found he's shuffled on.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on June 07, 2010, 08:48:26 AM
Really?  He's been an inside joke between Julie and I since we saw them on one of our first dates back in 2002.  One of the most arrogant drummers I've ever seen in my life, I've never seen so many cymbals on a kit in all my life and the two kick drums (one labeled "Stuart" and the other "Cable").  Every idiot drummer we've seen since has been compared to him.  He shall be missed (though still chided, even in death).

JJ72 kicked their ass at that show, naturally enough.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on June 07, 2010, 11:02:20 AM
My ears were just assaulted by Ben Lee's We're All In This Together while on hold with one of our customers.  The chick I was holding for is pretty hip so I looked it up while I was holding to find out what it was so I could tell her what awfulness they had on their hold music.  I was very surprised to find out it was Ben Lee.  He's one of those people that I know I've seen people talking about on here or on WOXY but I've never really made any effort to check out, now I'm glad I never bothered, what a terrible song.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on June 09, 2010, 09:01:18 AM
Nick Cave and the cadre of musicians he's surrounded himself with are pretty much awesdome.  Their catalog is diverse enough to soundtrack whatever twist or turn on my emotional roller coaster I find myself on.

Right now, I thank Big Jesus Trash Can for the Birthday Party. 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on June 09, 2010, 03:07:27 PM
It's weird - I know pretty much zero about that guy and I only have heard a few of his/their songs, but have loved each one of them. I feel like with someone that good and catchy and ... awesome ... that I should know more about them. Huh. Weird.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on June 10, 2010, 12:02:48 PM
I've been conditioned to the point whenever I hear an annoying song, I immediately think, "That's good torturethon material.  This song suck balls, but the video is, well, you know when you aren't sure if something is sheer brilliance or utter crap?  That's this. (http://vimeo.com/5942589)

It is, however, pretty NSFW.

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Hell Toupee on June 10, 2010, 02:41:47 PM
I've been conditioned to the point whenever I hear an annoying song, I immediately think, "That's good torturethon material.  This song suck balls, but the video is, well, you know when you aren't sure if something is sheer brilliance or utter crap?  That's this. (http://vimeo.com/5942589)

It is, however, pretty NSFW.

I'm the other way around... I like the song, but hate the video.

Although, it makes for a great animated gif file.

(http://i32.tinypic.com/31291l0.jpg)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Hell Toupee on June 13, 2010, 04:59:03 PM
I'm surprised at how well put together the new Devo album "Something For Everybody" is. Granted, it really depends upon how much you like Devo, but it really sounds slick.

It's streaming on the Colbert Report site (http://www.colbertnation.com/home) (right hand side of the screen, near the bottom in upcoming guests).
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on July 14, 2010, 03:18:03 PM
I have to admit, I actually like late 70's and very early 80's era Genesis.  Like Abacab and that era.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Doug on July 14, 2010, 03:23:01 PM
I have to admit, I actually like late 70's and very early 80's era Genesis.  Like Abacab and that era.

I heard the song Abacab on some muzak somewhere and I was digging it...but I liked it back in 87 too.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on July 14, 2010, 03:47:32 PM
Lads, I like the both of you a lot, but Genesis? I heard "Mama" on the radio in the car yesterday, very early in the morning. As soon as Collins opened his gate I nearly punched the CD I had sticking out of its hole thingy into its hole thingy a little too solidly. Fortunately the CD survived and went onto dispell the aural stench of that foul band.

It was Pizzicato 5, for the record.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Doug on July 14, 2010, 04:15:43 PM
I like that song too.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on July 14, 2010, 06:05:28 PM
Three words that've become easy to say:
"This" and "Song" and "Blows"
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kenneth Toilethole on July 15, 2010, 07:58:03 AM
Three words that've become easy to say:
"This" and "Song" and "Blows"

Heh, it was definitely one of my favorite songs from all of last year. But from past posts I can easily say our music collections would not get along very well, so I can't say I'm shocked that you feel that way. But as long as you don't knock the Dead Milkmen I will respectfully agree to disagree with you, sir.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on July 16, 2010, 12:54:42 AM
Actually, I like that song quite a bit... or at least I used to.  It's just not a good song for heavy play as it's strength is in it's earnestness and simplicity.  The punch it packs really diminishes if you hear it like 10,000 times and it just becomes boring.

OTOH, you can play Katy Perry's "California Girls" a zillion times and people's opinions won't change on it.  You either like it or don't but it's a song that's meant to be played and played and played.  It's totally superficial, so it can't become more superficial.

An additional problem for the Avett Brothers is that they play them quite frequently (really far too frequently) on Slacker.  And I wake up to Slacker.  It's a Pavlovian thing.  After awhile you associate that song with being woken out of sleep and having to go to work.  And then when I'm at work I usually hear it a couple more times as it is fairly heavy rotation on both KEXP and The Current, which just makes it worse.

I feel the same way about Phoenix.  Good band, but by this point I want to punch someone every time I hear Lisztomania or 1901.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kenneth Toilethole on July 16, 2010, 08:49:03 AM
Actually, I like that song quite a bit... or at least I used to.  It's just not a good song for heavy play as it's strength is in it's earnestness and simplicity.  The punch it packs really diminishes if you hear it like 10,000 times and it just becomes boring.

OTOH, you can play Katy Perry's "California Girls" a zillion times and people's opinions won't change on it.  You either like it or don't but it's a song that's meant to be played and played and played.  It's totally superficial, so it can't become more superficial.

An additional problem for the Avett Brothers is that they play them quite frequently (really far too frequently) on Slacker.  And I wake up to Slacker.  It's a Pavlovian thing.  After awhile you associate that song with being woken out of sleep and having to go to work.  And then when I'm at work I usually hear it a couple more times as it is fairly heavy rotation on both KEXP and The Current, which just makes it worse.

I feel the same way about Phoenix.  Good band, but by this point I want to punch someone every time I hear Lisztomania or 1901.
I can totally see your point.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Juliana on July 17, 2010, 08:22:39 AM
I and Love and You isn't my favorite song on the album, but I think it's a beautiful song. 
I *AM* in love (no, really IN LOVE) with the band though, so I can see that I might be a bit biased. 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on July 17, 2010, 12:39:55 PM
I heard a fucking fantastic cover version of "Groove is in the Heart" on the radio the other day. It sounded like Pete Kember, the Telescopes, Ride and Daisy Hill Puppy Farm had taken seventeen tonnes of acid and whizz before collaborating on it, to give you an idea. I have no clue which band covered the song, but it's brilliant.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on July 17, 2010, 12:41:03 PM
I like some Ben Lee.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on July 17, 2010, 12:42:16 PM
I heard a fucking fantastic cover version of "Groove is in the Heart" on the radio the other day. It sounded like Pete Kember, the Telescopes, Ride and Daisy Hill Puppy Farm had taken seventeen tonnes of acid and whizz before collaborating on it, to give you an idea. I have no clue which band covered the song, but it's brilliant.

Damn, I wanna hear that.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Hell Toupee on July 17, 2010, 06:21:02 PM
Crocodiles maybe? (http://www.thelineofbestfit.com/2010/07/sotd-96-crocodiles-groove-is-in-the-heart/)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on July 18, 2010, 11:22:04 AM
Crocodiles maybe? (http://www.thelineofbestfit.com/2010/07/sotd-96-crocodiles-groove-is-in-the-heart/)
That's the one. Nice find, thanks for linking it.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: matt on July 18, 2010, 11:57:38 PM
Nice find on that Crocodiles tune.  Hadn't heard them before.  After listening to this track I dl'ed thier stuff from eMusic.  Not bad at all.  You really can't go wrong with a song called "I Wanna Kill" where they repeat the line "IIII want to kill toniii-iiight..." to a delayed riff ripped off from Spectrum's "How You Satisfy Me".  Good stuff.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on July 19, 2010, 09:10:22 AM
And Spectrum ripped that riff off of an old R&B song.  The thing is, I can't think of the name or performer of that song.  I'm sure it is a female singer, not one of the bigger names of the era and is probably a Motown recording.  Research is needed.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on July 19, 2010, 11:18:27 AM
And Spectrum ripped that riff off of an old R&B song.  The thing is, I can't think of the name or performer of that song.  I'm sure it is a female singer, not one of the bigger names of the era and is probably a Motown recording.  Research is needed.

Was Divine on Motown?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on July 19, 2010, 12:36:43 PM
It's "I Can't Let Go" by The Hollies.  Originally done by Evie Sands.

Written by Chip Taylor aka James Wesley Voight aka Angelina Jolie's uncle.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on July 19, 2010, 01:02:58 PM
Awesdome, thank you.  It's the Evie Sands version I was thinking of.  I've spent way too much time this morning playing bits and pieces of the R&B and pop songs on my itunes and skipped right past it.  My memory told me that the song started with that riff so I only gave it a 3 second listen before moving on. 

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on July 23, 2010, 10:49:24 AM
To all the ladies:  Peace and Humpty-ness forever.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on July 26, 2010, 02:35:12 PM
Someday soon you'll be on fire
And you'll ask me for a glass of water
And I'll say "Noo-ooo,
you can just let that shit burn."

And you'll say, "Please please please put me out.
I promise not to do it again,
whatever I did to you."



I mean, how can you not love that.  Pretty much instantly.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on August 02, 2010, 09:20:50 AM
If you are wondering whether or not Paul McCartney was stoned out of his mind in the 70's, look no further than Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on August 02, 2010, 09:25:37 AM
Let Them In is also pretty non-sensical... though in a very different way.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on August 17, 2010, 08:32:23 AM
OK, I admit it, when that Sting song shuffled up on my iPod during my walk this morning I did start singing "I'm an Englishman in New Port"
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Hell Toupee on August 17, 2010, 08:50:57 PM
Orchestral Maneuvers In The Dark has a new album coming out? Wha...?

And it's got the original line-up for the first time in 24 years.

Strange.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on August 23, 2010, 02:34:23 PM
Superchunk - Watery Hands

God damn, I forgot how much I loved that song.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: mik on September 01, 2010, 01:56:10 PM
Anyone else listened to the new Darker My Love? It is fantastic!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on September 02, 2010, 08:38:08 AM
It's on my list, but I probably won't get to it until later in the year.  Good to know you dig it.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on September 06, 2010, 01:15:38 AM
How come all of a sudden everyone sounds like L'Trimm?  You know, it kinda sucked the first time.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on September 14, 2010, 02:40:58 PM
I was just thinking of that night I saw an early incarnation of Radiohead (then called "Can't Look Left") at the Bear and Duke of Mustard pub in Lower Lancrenshropshire Commons.  Me and PJ Harvey were doing rails of powdered sugar when we started making fun of the guys in Starsailor (then called "Poop Floats.")  I guess we were a bit cruel because that inspired them to write that "Daddy was an alcoholic" song.

I can never forgive myself for that.  

Fun fact:
Keane formed out of the ashes of Starsailor after they split when the guitarist quit to pursue his dreams of being a pickle farmer.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on September 15, 2010, 07:37:21 AM
I was just thinking of that night I saw an early incarnation of Radiohead (then called "Can't Look Left")

Gold.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Hell Toupee on September 18, 2010, 09:08:31 PM
Two weeks until AWESDOMETOWN for FG!!!

(http://www.philcollins.co.uk/sites/default/files/banners/english_0.jpg)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Poolio on September 24, 2010, 10:45:12 PM
I somehow missed that Amazon has a whole free download section. I just downloaded 30+ songs and I am not sure that I am done. Thanks Amazon!!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Doug on September 28, 2010, 10:00:44 AM
The Thompson Twins have taken up permanent residence in the elevator muzak at my work.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on September 28, 2010, 10:55:06 AM
So, I have this XM radio in my car.  The display on it, when songs first start, will show 16 characters of both the artist and title of a song.  After a few seconds, then it will adjust to show 32 characters of both, with scrolling if needed.  

But the initial 16 character thing makes for a fun few seconds on some titles, like:

Smashing Pumpkin
Bullet with Butt

The White Stripe
The Hardest Butt

And so on.  9 year old amusement ensues.

But this morning, I got this:

Film School
Heart Full of Pe

And immediately, I started trying to guess the title of this new song.  And after a split-second, I decided it had to be "Heart Full of Penises".  I mean, why not.  Why wouldn't it be "Heart Full of Penises"?  It must be.

Imagine my disappointment when I saw it was actually "Heart Full of Pentagons".  Fucking math nerds ruin everything.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 28, 2010, 11:27:10 AM
Your wife might have thought it was "Heart Full of Pen Is".
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on September 28, 2010, 09:35:22 PM
Reminds me of the time we went to the cinema in England and the display behind the ticket dude said "Sliding Doo"
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on September 29, 2010, 12:40:59 AM
The address field on our computer's renewal system cuts off at 25 characters, which led my department to send out an apology letter last month when the pre-bills for 'Young Men's Christian Association' showed up as 'Young Men's Christian Ass.'
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 29, 2010, 07:49:44 AM
I like to stay at the Y-M-C-Ass
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: dirk on September 29, 2010, 10:06:43 AM
Our old phone system at work was limited to 7 character, so we used first initial and as much of the last name that would fit.  This led to hilarity when one of our HR guys called, since what showed up was ABUSEME.  And oh how we did.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on September 29, 2010, 10:16:00 AM
In the Football Manager forums, there's a lot of talk about your Assistant Manager. Of course, everyone just abbreviates his title to Ass Man.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: dirk on September 29, 2010, 12:43:18 PM
My title used to be Associate Director, and I made sure to refer to myself as Ass Dir as much as possible.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on October 01, 2010, 08:54:53 AM
20 years on, Violator still sounds so good.  It still sounds like sipping luke warm Bud Dry in my parent's garage, talking shit with both new and old friends while watching the August sun set. 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on October 05, 2010, 05:59:33 PM
I haven't visited woxy.com for a long time. Found my password a few weeks ago and posted something about the harmonica. Anyway, I had a look again this evening and found that Mike has a "Blog". I had a most enjoyable hour or so listening to his "New Tunes Tuesday". It was rather nice hearing him in fine form as usual. I'm sure you all probably know about his show, but if not, give it a listen. Great bloke, nice to hear him again, doing his thing.

He's a Hotspur, after all :)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on October 05, 2010, 06:15:29 PM
I've been on a budget recently, so new CD buys have been scarce. I did pick up a compilation at the supermarket last week, though. you know the sort, 5 CD's for 10 quid, "Best of Alternative" bollocks pumped out by a major label. 100 tracks. I glanced at the sleeve and thought, "that'll do for the car. Some of those tunes are pretty good", without paying too much attention to the track list.

I've been a tad unwell of late, so on my way to get some meds from the pharmacy I thought I'd play one of the discs. I fast forwarded to track 12, as it was an Idlewild song, got in gear and pulled away from the curb. Yeah, great tune, enjoyed it as I drove like an old man well under the speed limit (had some trouble with the law in that respect recently, don't ask). Song concluded, I thought I'd randomly search for other tunes. First one I chose? Fucking Starsailor. Not any old Starsailor piece of shit, oh no, their finest hour of shitdom. Yes, Blaring away, in my bloody car, was the aural crime we all know as "Alcoholic". You can guess what happened next. I ejected the disc,apologised to Idlewild, Spiritualized, The Electric Soft Parade and stellarstarr and flung the cunt out of my car window.

Starsailor. They don't get better with age.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on October 05, 2010, 06:16:43 PM
I haven't visited woxy.com for a long time. Found my password a few weeks ago and posted something about the harmonica. Anyway, I had a look again this evening and found that Mike has a "Blog". I had a most enjoyable hour or so listening to his "New Tunes Tuesday". It was rather nice hearing him in fine form as usual. I'm sure you all probably know about his show, but if not, give it a listen. Great bloke, nice to hear him again, doing his thing.

He's a Hotspur, after all :)

I knew about his blog and have been downloading his selections, but there's a show, too? Where he talks about the bands/songs? News to me - Imagolookitup.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on October 05, 2010, 06:20:46 PM
Dan, he has an hour or so up on his blog. Totally new to me, but it's very good. Really enjoyed it, he sounds on form :)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on October 06, 2010, 01:23:03 PM
No, Edie Brickell, I do not know what you mean.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Poncho on October 08, 2010, 05:47:12 PM
Sent to the dozen or so friends I have at ACL this weekend via text message:

Quote
A PSA TO ALL OF YOU MUSIC FANS WHO I LOVE DEARLY!

Word of warning... be careful tomorrow from 6-8pm near the Austin Ventures stage.

Conor Oberst will be playing with Monsters of Folk there.

Anyone who gets within earshot will be overcome with a strong desire to give up music forever thanks to his overwhelming and excessively pretentious douchiness.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on October 08, 2010, 06:40:56 PM
PSA indeed! Well done, Ponch. You saved a few lives, there.

That fucker Oberst needs a good kick in his emo, decidedly wealthy goolies.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: LisaAnn on October 08, 2010, 08:41:03 PM
I haven't visited woxy.com for a long time. Found my password a few weeks ago and posted something about the harmonica. Anyway, I had a look again this evening and found that Mike has a "Blog". I had a most enjoyable hour or so listening to his "New Tunes Tuesday". It was rather nice hearing him in fine form as usual. I'm sure you all probably know about his show, but if not, give it a listen. Great bloke, nice to hear him again, doing his thing.

He's a Hotspur, after all :)

I knew about his blog and have been downloading his selections, but there's a show, too? Where he talks about the bands/songs? News to me - Imagolookitup.


Been a long time since I visited woxy as well and here too
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on October 09, 2010, 11:20:58 AM
I haven't visited woxy.com for a long time. Found my password a few weeks ago and posted something about the harmonica. Anyway, I had a look again this evening and found that Mike has a "Blog". I had a most enjoyable hour or so listening to his "New Tunes Tuesday". It was rather nice hearing him in fine form as usual. I'm sure you all probably know about his show, but if not, give it a listen. Great bloke, nice to hear him again, doing his thing.

He's a Hotspur, after all :)

I knew about his blog and have been downloading his selections, but there's a show, too? Where he talks about the bands/songs? News to me - Imagolookitup.


Been a long time since I visited woxy as well and here too
Heyyy... is this Sydney?
Hi, Lisa!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: LisaAnn on October 10, 2010, 04:23:09 AM
I haven't visited woxy.com for a long time. Found my password a few weeks ago and posted something about the harmonica. Anyway, I had a look again this evening and found that Mike has a "Blog". I had a most enjoyable hour or so listening to his "New Tunes Tuesday". It was rather nice hearing him in fine form as usual. I'm sure you all probably know about his show, but if not, give it a listen. Great bloke, nice to hear him again, doing his thing.

He's a Hotspur, after all :)

/songs? News to me - Imagolookitup.


Been a long time since I visited woxy as well and here too
Heyyy... is this Sydney?
Hi, Lisa!

Yeah its me, been a long a time... I wasn't sure of my password and I knew i'd changed my email so I created a new name etc.. it was fun to read stuff here yesterday, hope all is well with the folks at Randomville... L
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on October 11, 2010, 03:16:31 PM
What up Syd?! I mean Lisa!

Good to see you. Come back around when you get the chance. I'll start wearing my awful Guiness hat if you do.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on October 11, 2010, 03:46:58 PM
Wow, blast from the past!  Good to see you.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: LisaAnn on October 12, 2010, 08:49:16 PM
Thanks Guys, nice to be back....
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on October 18, 2010, 11:27:08 AM
Hey!  Pretentious Emo Whine-bag Hackstm.  Quit booking shows opening for talented singer-songwriters... you are not in their league.  You over there with your next song about when you're alone and sad and your junk shriveled up and and you're ugly and your cat ran away because it didn't want to be seen with you and you're not tall enough to reach the top shelf at the grocery store and people point and laugh when you walk into a room, yes I'm talking to you.  That is all.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on October 25, 2010, 10:09:14 AM
Straight edgers at a medium sized, Jesuit university in the Midwest are still every bit as obnoxious as straight edgers in any other realm of society.  I'm not sure why this surprises me.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on October 25, 2010, 12:16:46 PM
Three random band names I thought of before 10:00 AM:

The Tattersalls-- twee/indiepop
Harrington Jack-offs-- Punk
Tribülus-- Heavy Metal band with lesbian influence
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on October 25, 2010, 03:51:00 PM
Three random band names I came up with between 2:30 and 3:30:

All Ball-- Experimental/post-punk/noise duo
Ovulate Wildly-- All-female Smiths covers band
Carafe Racer-- Indie rock
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kenneth Toilethole on October 29, 2010, 12:52:25 PM
Sunday?

I guess this means that this year, me and Geto Boys will be trick or treat'n
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on November 02, 2010, 01:13:27 PM
I actually heard someone say to-mah-toe just now, for the first time ever.  And I can now say I would have absolutely no problem calling the whole thing off.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: trixi on November 05, 2010, 02:51:41 PM
Not really a thought...but a spotting.

Spotted Constantine (American Idol/Rock of Ages fame) eating lunch/breakfast at First Watch downtown today.  Must have been rehearsing. 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Poolio on November 05, 2010, 08:17:01 PM
I was reading while listening to the Music Choice when this song came on. FFS, I had forgotten how much I love this song. Cheesy 80's pop? Absolutely but damn it's well done.

xaXVOD7PYj0
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: trixi on November 05, 2010, 09:47:37 PM
Loved that song!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on November 10, 2010, 10:47:40 AM
The consensus on "Whip My Hair" appears to be that it's not just a good song for a nine year old, it's just a good song for anyone.  It's actually the opposite.  That's not just a bad song for anyone, it's even a bad song for a nine year old.

Have people really become this tone deaf, or is it just that we all realize we're going to get Jaden and Willow shoved down our throats for the next 30 years so we might as well start psyching ourselves into liking it and at least try to keep them from going Lindsay Lohan.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on November 10, 2010, 12:21:04 PM
I'd be a horrible person if I typed out my initial thought when I read this (http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Music/11/10/phil.collins.rstone/index.html?hpt=Sbin), right?  Or, am I just a pussy for feeling a twinge of sympathy for a guy who can't even wipe the him from himself?

Dammit Collins, even in retirement you're still pissing me off.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: vizzah on November 10, 2010, 03:07:04 PM
The consensus on "Whip My Hair" appears to be that it's not just a good song for a nine year old, it's just a good song for anyone.  It's actually the opposite.  That's not just a bad song for anyone, it's even a bad song for a nine year old.

Have people really become this tone deaf, or is it just that we all realize we're going to get Jaden and Willow shoved down our throats for the next 30 years so we might as well start psyching ourselves into liking it and at least try to keep them from going Lindsay Lohan.

I actually hadn't heard this song until the past weekend. We were staying with friends who have a 2 year old girl and 4 year old boy.  While the mom and I were out shopping, their dad thought it would be a hoot to play "Whip my hair" repetitively until his son started saying it over and over, thinking it was hilarious.
It WASN'T. 
The only time any of us laughed was when their 2 year old daughter, who isn't a talker, yelled out "I whip my hair back and forth!" during dinner.  For hilarity's purpose, I should point out that she frequently sounds like Meatwad when she talks.

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on November 10, 2010, 03:23:33 PM
I'd be a horrible person if I typed out my initial thought when I read this (http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Music/11/10/phil.collins.rstone/index.html?hpt=Sbin), right?  Or, am I just a pussy for feeling a twinge of sympathy for a guy who can't even wipe the him from himself?

Dammit Collins, even in retirement you're still pissing me off.

...But Seriously, you know he's not living Another Day in Paradise, right? I Cannot Believe It's True that a man who's shown us at Face Value and Against All Odds the meaning of love (you can't hurry it, and it's groovy) would also show us Both Sides of the Story. This was supposed to be heaven! Where Two Hearts beat as one! Do You Remember? I had so much more respect for you, Collins. Maybe, just maybe, if you Take Me Home and we stop living our Separate Lives will I be able to forgive you.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Doug on November 11, 2010, 08:51:03 AM
Quote
• Collins has noticed glowing, semitransparent light orbs in a series of photos he took at the Alamo.
"It's paranormal energy," he explains, noting that a psychic recently told him he fought at the fort in a previous lifetime. "I don't want to sound like a weirdo. I'm not Shirley MacLaine, but I'm prepared to believe. You've seen the pictures. You can't deny them, so therefore it's possible that I was there in another life."

WTF?  How come everyone who thinks they had a previous life always thinks they were someone noteworthy?  Pretentious wank.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on November 11, 2010, 08:52:16 AM
Quote
• Collins has noticed glowing, semitransparent light orbs in a series of photos he took at the Alamo.
"It's paranormal energy," he explains, noting that a psychic recently told him he fought at the fort in a previous lifetime. "I don't want to sound like a weirdo. I'm not Shirley MacLaine, but I'm prepared to believe. You've seen the pictures. You can't deny them, so therefore it's possible that I was there in another life."

WTF?  How come everyone who thinks they had a previous life always thinks they were someone noteworthy?  Pretentious wank.

To be fair, he doesn't say who he is.  He could've been like the Alamo's janitor in the '20's or something.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on November 11, 2010, 09:01:05 AM
I'd be a horrible person if I typed out my initial thought when I read this (http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Music/11/10/phil.collins.rstone/index.html?hpt=Sbin), right?  Or, am I just a pussy for feeling a twinge of sympathy for a guy who can't even wipe the him from himself?

Dammit Collins, even in retirement you're still pissing me off.

...But Seriously, you know he's not living Another Day in Paradise, right? I Cannot Believe It's True that a man who's shown us at Face Value and Against All Odds the meaning of love (you can't hurry it, and it's groovy) would also show us Both Sides of the Story. This was supposed to be heaven! Where Two Hearts beat as one! Do You Remember? I had so much more respect for you, Collins. Maybe, just maybe, if you Take Me Home and we stop living our Separate Lives will I be able to forgive you.
My apologies for missing this post yesterday. It was definitely GSPoTD-worthy!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on November 11, 2010, 09:15:05 AM
Quote
• Collins has noticed glowing, semitransparent light orbs in a series of photos he took at the Alamo.
"It's paranormal energy," he explains, noting that a psychic recently told him he fought at the fort in a previous lifetime. "I don't want to sound like a weirdo. I'm not Shirley MacLaine, but I'm prepared to believe. You've seen the pictures. You can't deny them, so therefore it's possible that I was there in another life."

WTF?  How come everyone who thinks they had a previous life always thinks they were someone noteworthy?  Pretentious wank.
Inorite?
No one is ever a dog or a bug in a previous life. They were always either someone or somewhere important.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on November 11, 2010, 09:16:07 AM
In recent satellite radio news, Sirius/XM launched a Pearl Jam channel.

The joke between Andrea and I and anybody else who has the satellite radio is: they already had this channel, it was just called Lithium (their '90's "grunge" and alternative channel).
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on November 11, 2010, 09:47:59 AM
noting that a psychic recently told him he fought at the fort in a previous lifetime....

WTF?  How come everyone who thinks they had a previous life always thinks they were someone noteworthy?  Pretentious wank.

I seem to recall something about someone else who went to a psychic who told him stories about the Alamo.  What was that?

To be fair, he doesn't say who he is.  He could've been like the Alamo's janitor in the '20's or something.

Did he keep his supplies in the basement?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Doug on November 11, 2010, 10:04:26 AM
Did he keep his supplies in the basement?

Next to his bike.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 11, 2010, 10:14:27 AM
Completely off topic... have you ever been to The Alamo?  From the pictures and stuff it seems like this gigantic place, nope it's tiny.  The gift shop is bigger than The Alamo itself.  Kinda weird.

Carry on.
Title: STOP WHAT YOU ARE DOING RIGHT NOW!!!
Post by: rva on November 16, 2010, 12:53:30 PM
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The Beatles are on iTunes. ::)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on November 16, 2010, 01:19:03 PM
This will revolutionize the way I don't use iTunes.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 16, 2010, 01:19:34 PM
Golly, can I please buy their shit in another format?

How long before there is a Beatles themed iPod?

On a similar topic, did anybody really need a 2CD+1DVD reissue of Band on the Run?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: kcneon on November 16, 2010, 01:22:20 PM
Dammit Collins, even in retirement you're still pissing me off.

...But Seriously, you know he's not living Another Day in Paradise, right? I Cannot Believe It's True that a man who's shown us at Face Value and Against All Odds the meaning of love (you can't hurry it, and it's groovy) would also show us Both Sides of the Story. This was supposed to be heaven! Where Two Hearts beat as one! Do You Remember? I had so much more respect for you, Collins. Maybe, just maybe, if you Take Me Home and we stop living our Separate Lives will I be able to forgive you.


There is a gal we've had to call at my PT job who has done what Dan did above for Lionel Ritchie titles on her answering machine message.  I wonder how long it was before her friends stopped calling her?

Say, Fools, I thought of you when I posted those short vids on my blog from the band Over The Wall.  Their Phil Collins/Peter Gabriel line was awesdome.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on November 16, 2010, 01:31:32 PM
There is a gal we've had to call at my PT job who has done what Dan did above for Lionel Ritchie titles on her answering machine message.  I wonder how long it was before her friends stopped calling her?

I would love to hear even a paraphrase of this.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2010, 02:08:26 PM
The Beatles are on iTunes

YES! Now I will be able to get Beatles songs in mp3 format.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2010, 02:09:27 PM
There is a gal we've had to call at my PT job who has done what Dan did above for Lionel Ritchie titles on her answering machine message.  I wonder how long it was before her friends stopped calling her?

Haha. The difference is that I'm genius and original, and she's just annoying.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on November 16, 2010, 07:17:31 PM
I know you did, KC.  It's kind of a weird thing to be proud of, but the only source of joy I get from that toilet is knowing that my friends (and even people who don't like me) think of me whenever that toilet comes to mind.  I suppose that it isn't a good thing to be happy that a toilet makes people think of me, but my self-esteem is low enough that any consideration is not bad.

This summer, my wife asked if I wanted to accompany her on a possible trip to Switzerland.  I asked if she could either ensure that Phil Collins wasn't still living there or, if he was, if it would be OK to swing by his house so I could hurl corn encrusted turds at his front door. 

She quickly changed the subject and I have yet to rub shoulders with the Swiss.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on November 17, 2010, 02:33:19 AM
The Apple thing is still a big announcement.  Being the first to carry the catalog is what's important.  Is anyone going to care when Amazon or Rhapsody get it in mid-late 2011?

I guess the Beatles finally realized that a) everyone who wanted the Beatles in their digital music library already ripped everything from their CDs or found a torrent and b) the money was as good as it was going to get.  If I remember correctly, they were one of the last ones to sell their music on CD.  So, this is nothing new for the glacial pace they seem to love for selling their music to the fans.  If they had been on the ball and done this whenever the itunes store opened, they would have had all the leverage.  They could have charged $1.99 per track (which seemed to be the sticking point for many years in the negotiations), or done album-only pricing at $15.99 or higher.  They could have gotten DRM.  A higher guaranteed contract.  Whatever they wanted, essentially. 

I still think they're going to sell a boatload of music.  Just not as much as they could have gotten.  Did anyone else see the Stereo remaster box set they're selling on itunes is $5 less than the CD version at amazon, currently?  If you're a smart shopper, why are you going to buy the whole thing on itunes?  And where the hell is the mono set?  I like these versions a lot better than the stereo.  The whole drums on the left channel, vocals on the right thing bothers me to no end.  Though 'A Day In The Life' and 'Tomorrow Never Knows' sound AMAZING in the remastered Stereo.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on November 17, 2010, 02:47:47 AM
Ha-ha-ha!  So true.

Quote
“Just found out SP is playing with Pavement in Brazil. It’s gonna be 1 of those New Orleans type funerals… I say that because they represent the death of the alternative dream, and we follow with the affirmation of life part… funny how those who pointed the big finger of ‘sell out’ are the biggest offenders now…yawn. they have no love… by the way, we’ll be the band up there playing NEW songs because we have the love xx”
- Billy Corgan

Indie rock killed all the fun in rock & roll.  Discuss.  :p
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2010, 10:07:17 AM
What you're saying is that you miss bands hating each other and making fun of each other? You prefer tabloid style music coverage?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on November 17, 2010, 10:20:52 AM
The Apple thing is still a big announcement.  Being the first to carry the catalog is what's important.  Is anyone going to care when Amazon or Rhapsody get it in mid-late 2011?

No one cares that Apple has the Beatles now, so what's the difference?  They would have been better off had they actually made a Beatles edition iPod and let the music people pull the weight.

Apple is still under the illusion that iTunes matters.  If someone wants to pay for a Beatles mp3 and iTunes has it, perhaps they'll buy it from iTunes.  But that doesn't suddenly put iTunes ahead as the Amazon/Facebook of media.  

If Paul had done a TV ad talking about the Beatles or whatever to market the change, it would have had more impact than an Apple announcement.  Especially if they'd tacked on some kind of exclusive freebie-- some Paul commentary on a few tracks, or maybe just some Paul McCartney concert footage.  That would have sold more albums.  They still might sell a bunch and that's good for Apple but they're missing the point.

Fundamentally it's a Beatles announcement with Apple reaping some benefits.  Not an Apple announcement.  I don't think Google or even Rhapsody or Amazon are much troubled by this.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Doug on November 17, 2010, 11:41:45 AM
If you don't have all The Beatles mp3s by now, you have failed at the Internet.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on November 17, 2010, 12:22:57 PM
Yes, I have been waiting with bated breath for that new Smashing Pumpkins album.

Oh wait, no I haven't.  They're the alternative to nothing.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on November 17, 2010, 12:50:57 PM
I am every bit as excited about each "Teargarden by Kaleidyscope" single as I was by the news the Beatles catalog was made available on iTunes.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: kcneon on November 17, 2010, 02:28:38 PM
Haha. The difference is that I'm genius and original, and she's just annoying.

There's a fine line, Dan.   ;)  But we'll let you know if you cross it.

Butter, I was so close to getting to hear her message last night and she answered it!  I hadn't heard it in a couple months, so can't relay it well, but rest assured "Hello" is playing in the background.  And I know remember she referenced most of the LR songs I could think of...I believe it ends with a reference to "Endless Love" which was the icing on the cake for me.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on November 18, 2010, 11:09:57 AM
"On the Bus Mall" by the Decemberists reminds me a bunch of a Sunday's song.  That made me think of the Sundays and get sad when I realized that I've got a Harriet Wheeler sized hole in my listening life.

And, although this belongs in that "Eyes for you thread", lest we forget:

(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1138/644597194_bdc6d84927.jpg)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on November 18, 2010, 11:35:03 AM
"On the Bus Mall" by the Decemberists reminds me a bunch of a Sunday's song.

Blaspheme.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: clemsonfan on November 18, 2010, 11:42:11 AM
I'm cleaning the house today and in my tradition of doing so, I have music turned way up so I can hear it in every room.
So, yeah, I have a music channel on DirecTV on. It's the "adult alternative" channel. I'm old.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on November 18, 2010, 11:46:21 AM
Blaspheme.

No, you just remove his voice with hers.  It could work.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on November 18, 2010, 11:52:01 AM
No, you just remove his voice with hers.  It could work.

Harriet, don't listen to him.  Just make us an album again.  All is forgiven.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on November 18, 2010, 02:37:37 PM
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1138/644597194_bdc6d84927.jpg)

I approve this photo.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Poncho on November 19, 2010, 04:11:35 PM
I once had some wonderful times with a wonderful girl to the wonderful voice of Harriet (the "Reading, Writing And Arithmetic" album).

That was a really good day.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Poncho on November 19, 2010, 04:13:19 PM
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1138/644597194_bdc6d84927.jpg)

ALSO... I third this photo.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on November 19, 2010, 05:30:41 PM

No one cares that Apple has the Beatles now, so what's the difference?  They would have been better off had they actually made a Beatles edition iPod and let the music people pull the weight.

That already happened in 2005.

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Apple is still under the illusion that iTunes matters.  If someone wants to pay for a Beatles mp3 and iTunes has it, perhaps they'll buy it from iTunes.  But that doesn't suddenly put iTunes ahead as the Amazon/Facebook of media.

I didn't say it did.  For paid downloads, itunes matters.  I'm stunned that you don't think it does.

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If Paul had done a TV ad talking about the Beatles or whatever to market the change, it would have had more impact than an Apple announcement.  Especially if they'd tacked on some kind of exclusive freebie-- some Paul commentary on a few tracks, or maybe just some Paul McCartney concert footage.  That would have sold more albums.  They still might sell a bunch and that's good for Apple but they're missing the point.

No, if Steve had done an official announcement at the Moscone Center, it would have had way more impact than a 70 year old dude whom the kids barely know.

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Fundamentally it's a Beatles announcement with Apple reaping some benefits.  Not an Apple announcement.  I don't think Google or even Rhapsody or Amazon are much troubled by this.

Well no, because they don't matter.  ;)  If Google had gotten them, I think that would have been a shock and established Google as a major player in the digital music world.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on November 19, 2010, 05:32:38 PM
Also...

http://www.fmqb.com/article.asp?id=2024627

Kind of hard to say they don't matter when sales are going this well...just saying.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on November 19, 2010, 07:08:32 PM
I'm not saying they won't make money off it, I'm just saying it's hardly a game changer or worthy of an Apple ZOMG! announcement.  Look at it like this:  Glee is still #1 and #2.  When Glee puts out another bunch of songs in a week or two, do we need a special Apple announcement for it?

Harry Potter is going to make a ton of money, but it's not going to change the face of movies or dvd's or streaming movies.  It's a testament to the popularity of the Harry Potter franchise, just as the Beatles and Glee moving units is a testament to the popularity of those brands.  I'm not crapping my pants over any of the three.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 22, 2010, 07:56:19 AM

No one cares that Apple has the Beatles now, so what's the difference?  They would have been better off had they actually made a Beatles edition iPod and let the music people pull the weight.

That already happened in 2005.

What are you talking about?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on November 22, 2010, 01:41:22 PM
Harriet was a bloody nice lady. If the Sundays re-formed, though, they'd probably turn out as bad as Echo and the Bunnymen did on their return. Good band once, two times is just taking the piss.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on November 23, 2010, 12:18:12 AM
Bloomingdale's released a Beatles edition ipod in 2005, Kwyj.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on November 23, 2010, 07:53:05 AM
If the Sundays re-formed, though, they'd probably turn out as bad as Echo and the Bunnymen did on their return. Good band once, two times is just taking the piss.

Fine, but she could sing somewhere again.  ANYWHERE.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on November 23, 2010, 03:08:59 PM
So they rode out west to the seaside
and they gladly decided to stay.
After two hours wandering outside
the sea air drove them away, yeah.


Well that lyric looks like crap on the page.  But then you hear Harriet sing it, and it's pretty much the best thing ever.

OK, I'm done now.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on November 23, 2010, 08:42:05 PM
Have you guys listened to Let's Buy Happiness yet?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on November 24, 2010, 02:56:41 AM
PJ Harvey's eighth studio album, Let England Shake, is set to be released on February 14 through Island Records, according to her website. The album was recorded in a 19th Century church in Dorset with long time collaborator Flood, who co-produced the album with Harvey, John Parish and Mick Harvey. The new year will also see Harvey return to the festival stage, with more details to be announced.

Oh.  Hell.  Yes.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on December 03, 2010, 10:45:40 AM
Cee Lo Green and Fitz and the Tantrums are fun to listen to back-to-back.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on December 03, 2010, 11:29:02 AM
Have you guys listened to Let's Buy Happiness yet?

Yes. Brilliant!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on December 07, 2010, 10:37:42 PM
Top five lyrics because I like to say "Dong"

5)  I've never even met you so what could I have dong?     Depeche Mode-  People are People
4)  It might be quite simple but, now that it's dong      Elton John- Your Song
3)  Hey, won't you play another somebody dong somebody wrong song?    BJ Thomas- (Hey Won't You Play) Another Somebody Dong Somebody Wrong Song
2)  The boy dong wrong   Belle and Sebastian- The Boy Dong Wrong
1)  I've dong all wrong, I've dong me wrong, All the wrong I've dong, I'm sure to live quite,quite long,  All the wrong I've dong, Will be undong in a song, All the wrong I've dong, Will be undong in a song, etc.   BMRC- Dong All Wrong
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Doug on December 14, 2010, 12:11:29 PM
I am LOVING the new Girl Talk.  Favorite mash ups so far:

Waiting for the Sun / Blitzkrieg Bop
Lust for Life / Hey Ladies
Rock It / Cruel Summer
I Want You Back / Some Missy Elliot song?
Cecelia / Back It Up
Windowlicker / Pretty Boy Swag
Another Missy Elliot Song ? / Digital Love

I could go on.  Good stuff to listen to when plowing through databases.

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on December 14, 2010, 12:57:15 PM
I am LOVING the new Girl Talk.  Favorite mash ups so far:

Waiting for the Sun / Blitzkrieg Bop
Lust for Life / Hey Ladies
Rock It / Cruel Summer
I Want You Back / Some Missy Elliot song?
Cecelia / Back It Up
Windowlicker / Pretty Boy Swag
Another Missy Elliot Song ? / Digital Love

I could go on.  Good stuff to listen to when plowing through databases.

Yeah, I agree.  I swear to God, I had no idea about who this band was or what kind of music they did before I DL'd this album... and I heard it for the first time earlier today, and enjoyed it immensely.  Was just kind of padding to hit 50 albums for the year.  Basically an album of mash-ups, but it was nearly all genius stuff that went great with trying to get through a bunch of spreadsheets.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on December 14, 2010, 10:22:35 PM
This web site is quite informative for the new GT album.

http://mashupbreakdown.com/

I just wish there was the equivalent for the first album, which is my go to workout album.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Doug on December 15, 2010, 08:47:25 AM
This web site is quite informative for the new GT album.

http://mashupbreakdown.com/

I just wish there was the equivalent for the first album, which is my go to workout album.

Awesome.  I've been looking for that.  There'e s a bunch of the rappity rap stuff on there that I'm not familiar with, but want to look into.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on December 20, 2010, 04:37:58 PM
I dig the Fitz and the Tantrums record, but at the same time it's like "Why don't I just listen to Paul Weller?"  So yeah.  Basically all I ever do is put on "Moneygrabber" and then turn it off and put on Style Council or something.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Hell Toupee on December 20, 2010, 08:43:31 PM
Nero's "Me and You" makes me feel like I'm wrapped in a warm dubstep blanket.

Nice and fuzzy.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on December 28, 2010, 12:16:30 PM
Crosspost of my top 30 albums to the woxy boards:

1 Beach House - Teen Dream
2 The Besnard Lakes - …Are the Roaring Night
3 Gorillaz - Plastic Beach
4 Dum Dum Girls - I Will Be
5 Girl Talk - All Day
6 Here We Go Magic - Pigeons
7 LCD Soundsystem - This is Happening
8 Miniature Tigers - Fortress
9 Vampire Weekend - Contra
10 Sleigh Bells - Treats
11 Best Coast - Crazy for You
12 Deerhunter - Halcyon Digest
13 Crystal Castles - s/t
14 Harlem - Hippies
15 Walkmen - Lisbon
16 Arcade Fire - The Suburbs
17 Local Natives - Gorilla Manor
18 Morning Benders - Big Echo
19 No Age - Everything in Between
20 Tame Impala - Innerspeaker
21 Warpaint - The Fool
22 Surfer Blood - Astro Coast
23 MGMT - Congratulations
24 Gold Panda - Lucky Shiner
25 Broken Bells - s/t
26 Blonde Redhead - Penny Sparkle
27 Hot Chip - One Life Stand
28 Stereolab - Not Music
29 Dr. Dog - Shame, Shame
30 Toro y Moi - Causers of This

Anyone else care to show or discuss year end thoughts?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on December 28, 2010, 01:56:09 PM
I have a bunch of random thoughts:

1)  Award for artistic genius:  Kanye West for the Runaway long vid/concept, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy album, assorted contributions to style.  It's hard to call West a "favorite" as he's kind of a punk and I'm not into some of his ego songs.  But still, I mean the guy has a unique vision and amazing talent.  There's so many levels of greatness in MBDFT from the samples he chooses, to the sounds, to the rhymes, and the concept.  You don't have to like the guy, but you have to recognize his unbelievable game.  He's the Kobe Bryant of rap.

2) Dum Dum Girls/Sleigh Bells/Best Coast trio:  I dunno, man.  I like all three albums and their songs seriously burrow their way into your head but at the same time... they kind of do it in an annoying way.  It's like a video game you don't like anymore but you can't stop playing.  I'm not really sure how the albums justify the hype.  It seems like every year we get spat out some sort of girl pop and it's always random to me who ends up with all the acclaim.  Not that they're bad, but it's like why them?  Of the three, Sleigh Bells has a unique sound, but I get bored with it half way through the album (but I still can't stop listening to it).

3)  Best pure powerpop throwaway single:  Bad Books-  You Wouldn't Have to Ask.  A song that comes from a group no one cares about and will likely never hear from again, from an album that really isn't that good (and sounds nothing like the song) and clocks in at under 2:00.  Just a perfect slice of angry pop.  Sounds like something from a long lost Sheila Divine album (and aren't all Sheila Divine albums "long lost" at this point?).

4)  Suckiest artist I liked:  Kate Nash.  I can't stand her or Lily Allen and their fake cockney accents.  And in fact, the Kate Nash album is filled with a ton of crap.  But "Later On" and "Doo Wah Doo" are both pretty awesome songs.  It's like Kanye West, I guess.  You don't have to like them as people, or the fact that who they are as people is not the persona they take on record.  I like and identify with the chick singing "Later On," even if it really isn't Kate Nash in real life.

5)  Prettiest Album:  School of Seven Bells-- Disconnect from Desire.  A bit of a snoozer as a complete album, but the harmonies on this are beautiful.  I don't know what they are going to do now that they are apparently down to one Deheza sister.  Probably just double-track vocals, but it won't be the same.

6)  Best album, indie division:  If I had to pick one, I'm going with Besnard Lakes.  Some of the Jace Lasek stuff is kind of boring, but when the ones with that soaring kinda sound are awesome.

7)  Best album, pop division:  Robyn-- Body Talk.  I'm in agreement with pretty much every critic in the world here.

8)  Broken Bells:  This was a weird album, because it came out to all this hype and then sorta didn't quite go over like I thought.  It's maybe a little too mainstream for the hipsters, and a little too slow and out-there for the mainstream.  I know a ton of people who have this, and they all like it but no one loves it.  I do, though.  Gayngs was the same way with a similar vibe.  Only no one bought that record, which is a shame.

9)  I have to admit I kinda like Blonde Redhead's "Not Getting There."  But that album overall is still pants, Blonde Redhead still sucks.  And like Asobi Seksu, they remain NOT shoegaze.  If anything they are less shoegaze and than ever.  It's bad trip-hop is what it is.

10)  I no longer hate Vampire Weekend but I still don't like them either.  "Giving Up the Gun" is a really good song, though.

11)  Is it me or is that Arcade Fire album tremendously over-rated?  It's pretty good, but it also sounds like a not-as-good version of the other albums.

12)  Biggest unsurprising disappointment from comeback album:  Posies.  It's not bad, but it's the freaking Posies, man.  "Not bad" does not cut it.  Admittedly my expectations were way too high, so disappointment was almost inevitable.  But still, it could have been like a B+ album, instead of like a C+ album.

13)  Biggest surprising non-disappointment from comeback album:  Superchunk.  Not only have they not changed or lost anything from their sound, they just perfected it.  If this album had come out in 1995, everyone would have lost their shit. 

14)  I'm giving up hope:  The Yeah Yeah Yeahs did not release anything.  It's starting to look like the greatest album since "OK Computer" is not going to happen.

15)  Best use of indie in a commercial:  (tie)  Los Camposinos! shilling for Bud and Go! Team for NFL.

16) Worst use of indie in commercial:  Pomplomousse for Hyundai.  I hate that Pomplomousse chick.  She's like the Martha Stewart of urban hupsters.  I bet she sells pottery on Etsy, keeps a food blog, and reads Lonny magazine.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on December 28, 2010, 02:15:31 PM
11)  Is it me or is that Arcade Fire album tremendously over-rated?  It's pretty good, but it also sounds like a not-as-good version of the other albums.

No, it's not just you.  I like it, but I don't love it like I did the last 2.

I didn't like it at all at first, but the more I listen, the more I settle into like.  But since my favorite song is Sprawl II, and even that grates after a while, I know that this is not solid gold.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Poolio on December 28, 2010, 06:40:46 PM
I have a bunch of random thoughts:

16) Worst use of indie in commercial:  Pomplomousse for Hyundai.  I hate that Pomplomousse chick.  She's like the Martha Stewart of urban hupsters.  I bet she sells pottery on Etsy, keeps a food blog, and reads Lonny magazine.
X2

Perhaps if she had some expression in her face and sang in something other than a monotone, I might give her a pass... but since she doesn't and she won't, she needs to go away.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on December 30, 2010, 01:35:08 AM
Doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-DAH
doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-DAH
HOLIDAY OHHH HOLIDAY OHH WASTE ANOTHER YEAR!

I torment my wife by dancing like an idiot when that song comes on the Teevee.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Juliana on December 30, 2010, 07:47:09 AM
is that the car commercial where you see the band playing around, or the one where you don't see the band and you just have the regular old car commercial?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on December 30, 2010, 10:40:02 AM
7)  Best album, pop division:  Robyn-- Body Talk.  I'm in agreement with pretty much every critic in the world here.

I haven't heard it all yet but I quite like what I have heard. Pretty good stuff.

9)  I have to admit I kinda like Blonde Redhead's "Not Getting There."  But that album overall is still pants, Blonde Redhead still sucks.  And like Asobi Seksu, they remain NOT shoegaze.  If anything they are less shoegaze and than ever.  It's bad trip-hop is what it is.

Really? I like trip-hop a lot, so perhaps I should look into this more? I also liked Blonde Redhead's last album... was it called "23" or something like that? Your comment sparks my interest.

11)  Is it me or is that Arcade Fire album tremendously over-rated?  It's pretty good, but it also sounds like a not-as-good version of the other albums.

I disagree - I like this new album considerably better than "Neon Bible." It's not as good as "Funeral" but I don't know that anything short of the greatest album since PJ Harvey's "To Bring You My Love" could accomplish that. Which is to say..."Funeral" raised the bar so much they'll never hit it, and thusly their new album is everything I could have ever hoped for.

15)  Best use of indie in a commercial:  (tie)  Los Camposinos! shilling for Bud and Go! Team for NFL.

Holy sh!t I love that use of The Go! Team in the NFL commercial. I smile and get all warm and fuzzy every time I hear it.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on January 04, 2011, 12:30:51 PM
I'm lukewarm on the actual music, but Thieves Like Us always has great album covers.

(http://www.thieves-like-us.com/releases/images/Thieves%20Like%20Us%20-%20Play%20Music_t.jpg)
(http://www.thieves-like-us.com/releases/images/Thieves%20Like%20Us%20-%20Really%20Like%20To%20See%20You%20Again_t.jpg)
(http://www.thieves-like-us.com/releases/images/Thieves%20Like%20Us%20-%20Never%20Known%20Love_t.jpg)
(http://www.thieves-like-us.com/releases/images/Thieves%20Like%20Us%20-%20Forget%20Me%20Not_t.jpg)
(http://www.thieves-like-us.com/releases/images/Thieves%20Like%20Us%20-%20Again%20and%20Again_t.jpg)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Hell Toupee on January 04, 2011, 04:14:00 PM
I'm lukewarm on the actual music, but Thieves Like Us always has great album covers

They look like stills from your bar escapades.  :D
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on January 06, 2011, 02:34:04 PM
Today's hyper-opinionated, overly pretentious, unprovable thesis that is nonetheless true:


There are only two valid reasons for listening to Oasis during their heyday in the early/mid-90's:

1)  You did not hear any Pulp, Blur, Suede, or Radiohead in the early/mid-90's.
2)  You heard way too much Pulp, Blur, Sued, and Radiohead in the early/mid-90's.

Why is this important?  Because it explains the sad state of guitar in the 2000's up to today.  The reason why guitar is dead is because:

1)  You belong to group 1 and completely missed out on the evolution of guitar and therefore are still stuck listening to metal and/or classic rock or regurgitated blues riffs.

2)  You belong to group 2 and you realize there is no point in playing guitar because it's already been mastered.  There's nowhere left to go.  You have to find a completely new paradigm of guitar playing in rock... and that takes time.  Even Coxon, Butler, Hawley, and Greenwood themselves don't play the same way anymore.

The US belongs in group 1.  The UK belongs in group 2.  Japan is in the unique position of having had good exposure to Marr and his descendants, while not being overly inundated with Britpop.  Which is why all the best rock guitar music nowadays comes out of Japan.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on January 07, 2011, 04:21:54 PM
Today's chart movers in RVA's internal music universe:

Blake Babies: UP 30 points.  Haven't listened to them in several years, but woke up with a random hankering to hear "Disappear."  Forgot how fantastic that song is, and how good God Bless the Blake Babies is in general.

Cranes:  DOWN 75 points.  Found out they were from Portsmouth.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on January 07, 2011, 06:53:12 PM
A.M. is my favorite Wilco album. Don't much care for their AAA-friendly sound of late. To me, Tweedy's best work was in Uncle Tupelo.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on January 07, 2011, 07:54:17 PM
Being There is like A.M., but much better.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Hell Toupee on January 07, 2011, 11:07:12 PM
That Sleigh Bells album just makes the wait for The Go Team's "Rolling Blackouts" feel like an eternity away instead of a few weeks. :(

C'mon Feb. 1st, get here already.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on January 08, 2011, 08:05:39 AM
I can't pick a favorite between A.M. and Being There. Those two, plus Son Volt's Trace are head and shoulders above anything else in those guys did, including Uncle Tupelo.  Wilco should have called it quits after Yankee Hotel Foxtrot (which wasn't very good but at least interesting).
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: va-vacious on January 14, 2011, 08:25:43 PM
One of our local radio stations has just become a Modern Rock station- I've heard INXS, Suzanne Vega, Mumford and Sons, 30 Seconds to Mars, Phoenix, etc., on it-- I'm really liking it.

And we also have the Penguin, which has lots of Avetts, Tift Merrit, and Phish.  And too much blues/jazz for me.

So I'm very happy that my mid-market area is now the home of two pretty darn good radio stations!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on January 16, 2011, 11:03:01 AM
Daft Punk: Live at Keyspan Park 2007 is a truly amazing piece of art. I can't stop listening to it... which is good, since it's an hour and a half long.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on January 17, 2011, 03:57:06 AM
Just heard the new Twilight Singers album (streaming on SubPop if you pre-order).  It's really good.  Mellow, but very melodic.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on January 19, 2011, 02:49:43 AM
I know no one on here is a Pearl Jam nut like I am, so keep that in mind as I tell this story.

The "Holy Grail" of Pearl Jam memorabilia is the 'Reenk Roink' CD.  For a very very brief amount of time, between the time the band was called Mookie Blaylock (yes, after the basketball player) and Pearl Jam, they briefly entertained the name 'Reenk Roink.'  Needless to say, it was a smart business move to change their name.  In that time period, the band (mainly Eddie Vedder & bassist Jeff Ament) randomly passed out promo copies of what would be their first album 'Ten' to DJs, fans, record store clerks, etc.  The CDs themselves have no lettering on them, they're blank.  You can only ID them by the manufacturing number on the center of the disc.  They were passed out in hand-drawn paper sleeves, usually they look like this:

(http://www.pjcollectors.com/public/images/promocdalbum/Ten%20Promo%20Reeenk%20Roink%20DIDP-076200_front.jpg)

They also can be found in green ink, I'm told.  The total number in existence varies, but most feel around 100 are out there.  Some say 50, some say 200, but 100 seems to be a safe number.

Once in a blue moon, these come up on Ebay.  Like this week.  It wasn't labeled 'Pearl Jam Reenk Roink,' but 'Pearl Jam Limited Edition CD,' which is good for me because a) many of the other Pearl Jam nuts might miss it on their search and b) I might get it for a reasonable amount (term used loosely).

Keep in mind that the music is the exact same as it is on a copy of 'Ten.'  Nothing is different.  You're basically buying a piece of Pearl Jam's history.  That's your benefit.

For 99% of this ten-day auction, I was the top bidder.  Maybe 99.5%.  You probably already know where this story is going by that disclaimer, but I need to state for the record that I found my limit as to what I will spend as a Pearl Jam nut.  I put a maximum bid of $550 down on it.

With thirty seconds to go, I was in the lead at $520.  Then, all hell broke loose.  My wife said I could go to $600 because she knew how much acquiring this would mean to me.  I went to put in the bid and I saw it had jumped to $661.  I said 'Holy shit!,' then looked back down for a second to fix my bid.  It couldn't have been more than one second.  I say this because I looked back up and it was $773.  I stopped bidding then, and proceeded to give play-by-play to the wife.  Anyone want to guess what the final bid was for this thing?

$1500.

Within thirty seconds, it tripled in cost.  Again, this is just a promo copy of 'Ten.'  Ladies and Gentlemen...EBay! 

So yes, I have reached my Pearl Jam collecting limit.  Mind you, I have some really cool shit already in my possession, but I cannot justify dropping $1500 on anything they do...unless I won the lottery and even then, I would seriously think about it.  So that was my afternoon.  :p
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on January 19, 2011, 07:52:19 AM
You need to invest in an esnipe account, my friend.  Nobody wins an auction like that by bidding before the final ten seconds.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on January 19, 2011, 10:07:35 AM
How does esnipe work?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on January 19, 2011, 10:47:38 AM
For a small fee they place a bid for you at a specified time, usually between 5 and 10 seconds before an auction ends.  I think the fee is 1% of the item price (minimum $.25) but I don't remember.  You pay nothing if you don't win.  By doing this your competitors who are trying to bid against you manually do not have time to react.  However, I'd be willing to be the winner had to done this themselves so it wouldn't have mattered much.

This wouldn't be necessary if people would just put in what they're willing to pay and walk away.  Instead they low ball it, usually several times before the end of the auction, and then end up bidding more than they'd have been willing to pay just because it's "close".  I've seen the same thing happen at estate auctions... people pay twice as much for some used piece of merchandise than they could get it for at retail new.  Julie and I watched in awe once as a lady paid $10 for a used laundry basket.  How stupid can you get?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on January 19, 2011, 11:08:24 AM
Was it a Longaberger or something like that?  Or just a regular ass plastic laundry basket?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on January 19, 2011, 11:13:15 AM
It was one of those plastic tubs with rope handles that you can get at Wal-Mart for $5.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on January 26, 2011, 09:51:51 PM
I don't follow the album charts as much as I used to, but I have to share this week's - just to torment rva.

Jan. 26, 2011′s Billboard 200 albums top 10

No. 1 – The Decemberists, The King Is Dead: 94,000
No. 2 – Kidz Bop 19 album: 70,000
No. 3 – The Script, Science & Faith: 49,000
No. 4 – Social Distortion, Hard Times and Nursery Rhymes: 46,000.
No. 5 – Gregg Allman, Low Country Blues: 36,000
No. 6 – Bruno Mars, Doo-Wops & Hooligans: 34,000
No. 7 – Katy Perry, Teenage Dream: 33,000
No. 8 – Taylor Swift, Speak Now: 31,000
No. 9 – Nicki Minaj, Pink Friday: 28,000
No. 10 – Mumford & Sons, Sigh No More: 27,000

I have to admit that I completely missed that Social D has a new album. Has anyone heard it?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on January 27, 2011, 12:18:40 AM
It's because Amazon was selling it for $4.  Although tbf, they still would have come in #2 behind Kidz Bop LXVIII.  And Mumford & Sons at #10 for the added kick in the nads.

I actually hope the youth of America are simply ripping off albums rather than listening to this adult contemporary crap.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on January 27, 2011, 08:16:32 AM
Fucking Kidz Bop is a charting album?  I mean, I can't fucking believe it's in the top 100... much less top 2.  WTF?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on January 27, 2011, 08:43:44 AM
Ethan and Alex begged us to go to McDonald's one time because some cut-down Kidz Bop albums were the Happy Meal "prize".  After about 2 or 3 songs, I took that disc out and have never let them listen to it since.  Maybe Andrea caved, but I am not going to have them listen to that stuff in my presence.  If you want to listen to shit, do it on your own time.

On the downside, I think they both listen to the local "we play everything!" station when going to bed at night.  Which means mostly soft rock from the last 40 years.  Sweet.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on January 27, 2011, 10:10:46 AM
I think it partly has to do with no one pirating Kidz Bop.  8 year olds probably aren't out there using bit torrent.  You also wouldn't want them on your computer too often and you wouldn't want to give one an mp3 player at that age, either.  As a parent, you'd probably want to give a kid something tangible because it seems like more of a reward/present for them to earn and then learn to take care of.

But yeah, all the Kidz Bop albums chart in the top 10.  And they are all crap. 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: cuddlyevil on January 27, 2011, 10:15:49 AM
I still wonder if the people who put kidz bop out really listen to the lyrics of some of the songs. Sure, some are okay but others really make me wonder.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Poolio on January 27, 2011, 11:03:27 AM
I still wonder if the people who put kidz bop out really listen to the lyrics of some of the songs. Sure, some are okay but others really make me wonder.

Supposedly they edit the lyrics BUT I've heard tell that somethings have slipped through. Granted, I won't listen to that crap myself so I only have hearsay as my proof. But, when I worked in a public library we bought every frickin' one of them because they circulated like mad. If they didn't sell they wouldn't have kept making them, it shouldn't be a surprise that they've charted.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on January 27, 2011, 11:39:38 AM
My friend's kid looooves the Kidz Bop version of Tik Tok.

They take out the overt references to drinking but that's about it.  So the Kidz Bop singer apparently gets pedicures, flirts with guys, drives a drop top, goes out at night and doesn't come back, and wants the DJ to blow her speakers up.  It's pretty clear what's going on.

I asked him about that. He pointed out that it's not like when someone puts on a Kidz Bop album it's the first time they've ever heard the songs.  Tik Tok is on Kidz Bop albums because kids have already heard it and like it and want to sing it (or at least this is true for 10 and 11 year olds).  So the lyrics are really cleaned up more so your kids can sing Tik Tok without someone else getting offended by some ten year old talking about brushing her teeth with jack.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on January 27, 2011, 12:08:12 PM
http://www.buzzsawmag.org/2010/10/18/kidz-bop-starting-to-get-a-little-bit-silly/
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: cuddlyevil on January 27, 2011, 01:04:39 PM
Just seems like it's a terrible version of a radio edit and not worth the money.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Doug on January 27, 2011, 01:50:25 PM
Ethan and Alex begged us to go to McDonald's one time because some cut-down Kidz Bop albums were the Happy Meal "prize".  After about 2 or 3 songs, I took that disc out and have never let them listen to it since.  Maybe Andrea caved, but I am not going to have them listen to that stuff in my presence.  If you want to listen to shit, do it on your own time.

I DL'd all the Kidz Bop albums and stuck them in my son's DS so he can listen to them whenever he wants...on his headphones, or speakers so tiny that I have no chance of listening to them.  It's worked out pretty good for me so far.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Juliana on January 27, 2011, 02:30:47 PM
It wasn't Kidz Bop, but one of the rip offs of KB got in trouble a few months ago for not editing the lyrics of songs.  Some parent actually paid attention one day when she put the disc in for her kid.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on January 27, 2011, 03:05:59 PM
I DL'd all the Kidz Bop albums and stuck them in my son's DS so he can listen to them whenever he wants...on his headphones, or speakers so tiny that I have no chance of listening to them.  It's worked out pretty good for me so far.

I did not realize that the DS could hold songs.  Must be one of the newer ones?

We got them mp3 players last year and put some things on it.  I hesitate to load my songs on there, because frankly 3 hours of Animal Collective, Radiohead, and Grizzly Bear might make them suicidal.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Doug on January 27, 2011, 03:16:29 PM
I DL'd all the Kidz Bop albums and stuck them in my son's DS so he can listen to them whenever he wants...on his headphones, or speakers so tiny that I have no chance of listening to them.  It's worked out pretty good for me so far.

I did not realize that the DS could hold songs.  Must be one of the newer ones?

The DSi has a micro SD card slot.  I got him a 10 gig card for like 5 bucks or something.  I forget the process, but it wasn't really easy to do.  I loaded it up with every Kidz Bop I could Bit Torrent, as well as all my Beatles, ELO, Star Wars Soundtracks, Alvin and the Chipmunks Soundtracks, Sponge Bob Movie Soundtrack, etc.  It's a pretty crazy mix.  He loves it and shows it off to his friends.  The coolest thing is that he can use the sound mixer on the DSi to manipulate the music, so he's like a little sound producer at times.  Really puts those Beatles backwards masking theories to the test.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on January 27, 2011, 04:33:12 PM
Yeah, we put Star Wars and Spongebob and some of the more appropriate Queen's Greatest Hits, to name a few. 

They have DS Lites, so that is why I hadn't noticed it.  Ethan is talking big about saving up for a 3DS, but I told him I wouldn't waste my money.  Which will probably make him want to do it more.  *sigh*  *facepalm*
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on January 28, 2011, 02:06:57 AM
The Social D record is more alt-country than West Coast punk.  A different sound for sure.

Didn't Cake have the #1 record last week?  Something like 40,000 sold.  An all-time low for a #1.  Yeesh.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: matt on January 28, 2011, 08:09:24 AM
Yep - 44k sold will get you a Billboard No. 1 these days.

http://iamdaveallen.com/thinking/2011/1/19/can-we-stick-a-fork-in-it.html
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on January 28, 2011, 06:02:01 PM
Top 5 things I would hate every minute of:

5)  Being not man or machine, but something in between
4)  Being started like a motor and made to run
3)  Being shot like a rocket into space
2)  Being out of control
1)  Listening to Loverboy
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on February 03, 2011, 09:12:05 AM
(http://www.b3tards.com/u/420c52b7900bd7084f02/phil-collins-cummin-in-air-tonight.gif)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Poncho on February 03, 2011, 04:21:44 PM


















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Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on February 08, 2011, 10:46:16 PM
How come all of a sudden everyone sounds like L'Trimm?  You know, it kinda sucked the first time.

Today there were two guys at the bar arguing over who was better, Dev or Ke$ha.  Then some indie dude jumped into the fray insisting on Uffie.  Hello?  They all sound exactly the same.  It's not like Ke$ha ripped off Uffie, that's just what crappy female rapping sounds like.  Any remaining small differences in vocal characteristics are then wiped out by the heavy autotune.  At least with Nicki Minaj, that is only one of many equally annoying styles she uses. 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on February 09, 2011, 07:50:43 PM
I just now determined that one of my cats generally meows at exactly one full octave higher than the other one.  It's the B a half-step below high C and then the B an octave up from that.  I wonder if he's the Steve Perry of felines.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on February 13, 2011, 08:55:35 AM
I just "ripped" or "burned" or whatever, my very first album onto iTunes. "Going Blank Again" by Ride. I feel a small sense of achievement, but fucking hell, it sounds insipid. Whatever bollocks RVA raves on about, vinyl definitely has the edge :)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: matt on February 13, 2011, 01:09:08 PM
Welcome to the New Dark Ages.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on February 13, 2011, 01:29:33 PM
hehe, thanks mate. Blow the candle out, I just got that electricity thingy!

I've loaded five or six albums so far, and am surprised that I can't get album cover artwork for four of the albums. I sense a distinct lack of love from iTunes towards Dumptruck and House of Freaks.

Edit: With that in mind, what are the chances of them finding the cover art for the seminal album by A Flux of Pink Indians, "The Fucking Cunts Treat Us Like Pricks"?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Poncho on February 13, 2011, 09:09:15 PM
hehe, thanks mate. Blow the candle out, I just got that electricity thingy!

I've loaded five or six albums so far, and am surprised that I can't get album cover artwork for four of the albums. I sense a distinct lack of love from iTunes towards Dumptruck and House of Freaks.

Edit: With that in mind, what are the chances of them finding the cover art for the seminal album by A Flux of Pink Indians, "The Fucking Cunts Treat Us Like Pricks"?

NSFW picture... but it's here and you can add it manually.  Catch me online and I can step you through it.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ec/Fluxalbum.jpg
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on February 14, 2011, 01:15:59 AM
Arcade Fire wins AoY at the Grammys.  Insane.  Win one for the little guys!  :)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on February 14, 2011, 08:57:32 AM
Arcade Fire wins AoY at the Grammys.  Insane.  Win one for the little guys!  :)

Sweet.  They're only 2 albums behind.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on February 15, 2011, 11:39:35 AM
This might be the greatest week of new releases in the last decade:  PJ Harvey, The Strokes, La Sera, Twilight Singers,  East River Pipe, Drive By Truckers, and Cowboy Junkies.

It almost makes me long for the old days.  I would have bought the first four CD's without even needing a listen first, then probably tossed in East River Pipe as long as I was at the store.  And Go Team! from a few weeks ago, which I wouldn't have bought yet.  And RZA on cassette for the car.  Then back to the dorm, slap 'em all in the changer and listen for the rest of the day, or at least until my roommate got home and started complaining.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on February 15, 2011, 12:09:06 PM
This might be the greatest week of new releases in the last decade:  PJ Harvey, The Strokes, La Sera, Twilight Singers,  East River Pipe, Drive By Truckers, and Cowboy Junkies.

I don't know La Sera or East River Pipe, but with the rest of them ... couldn't this be from 2002 or so?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on February 15, 2011, 01:05:24 PM
I forgot about The Dears, too.

There's a bias in there that it's hard for me to get excited about your new release if I don't know who you are yet.  And even if I'm sort of excited about it, I wouldn't expect others to identify with that excitement.  What makes this a great week is I think there's something in there for everyone.

But how's this for a tip?  The debut Yuck album has the potential to be better than any of the above.  Unfortunately, it's retro-sounding even if not actually retro.  But it's not like it's just me, they've had some buzz around them for awhile. 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: bluebastard on February 15, 2011, 09:54:49 PM
Thrill Jockey has had a bevy of awesome releases out of the gate this year and it's only going to get better.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: va-vacious on February 15, 2011, 10:07:12 PM
East River Pipe! I haven't heard them in ages.  Sigh...
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kenneth Toilethole on February 17, 2011, 07:50:08 AM
Sirius' Alt Nation played a song by Mona this morning.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on February 21, 2011, 11:58:45 AM
Driving home from the airport yesterday morning, There was nothing on the radio. The only alternatives were to play that Coral CD I've had on about 5 times this week, or stick with some random New Wave compilation without a cover that I bought ages ago from a petrol station. You know the ones - Two decent tunes, then some rubbish Billy Idol single, followed by some Fad Gadget or other nonsense. After forwarding through the CD about to give up, I happened upon a long forgotten gem. Hiding at the end of this pretty average CD was the beautiful "Outdoor Miner" by Wire. What a fucking amazing song that is. I think I played it 15-18 times in a row all the way home. Brilliant.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Poncho on February 21, 2011, 10:28:27 PM
I happened upon a long forgotten gem. Hiding at the end of this pretty average CD was the beautiful "Outdoor Miner" by Wire. What a fucking amazing song that is. I think I played it 15-18 times in a row all the way home. Brilliant.

You're nothing if not a consistent shoegazer!  
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on February 22, 2011, 10:59:11 AM
Being stuck in the middle of New England without the appropriate wire for an ipod connection to the car, and no CDs with us, I discovered amongst all the crap rock, pop, and country stations a beautiful gem: WEQX. It's not woxy by any means, but man was it fun to listen to for a couple days. I give them full props.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on February 23, 2011, 11:23:23 AM
Having recently listened through several times to both the new Radiohead and PJ Harvey albums, I can safely say that the PJ Harvey album is miles better.  It is awesome.

And this is coming from a guy who still has a DirecTV Radiohead "In Rainbows" era 1-hour performance special on his DVR and watches it every few months.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on February 23, 2011, 12:07:16 PM
I'd concur.  I'm not as crazy into either act as other people are.

The Radiohead is decent enough and fans shouldn't have any complaints.  It's just Radiohead, though.  I'm getting tired of all the "Wow they've re-invented themselves again!" crap.  Put on that album, listen to 30 seconds of it.  No one is going to be like "Gee?  Who is this?  This is Radiohead?!??  Get out!!!" 

But the PJ Harvey is excellent.  The concept kind of wears me down after a while, and I wish there'd been a bit more angry, yelling PJ Harvey, instead of sirenesque high-pitch PJ Harvey.  But those are fairly minor quibbles. 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: matt on February 23, 2011, 01:28:05 PM
I happened upon a long forgotten gem. Hiding at the end of this pretty average CD was the beautiful "Outdoor Miner" by Wire. What a fucking amazing song that is. I think I played it 15-18 times in a row all the way home. Brilliant.

You're nothing if not a consistent shoegazer!  
Is that a bad thing?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Poncho on February 23, 2011, 02:46:00 PM
I happened upon a long forgotten gem. Hiding at the end of this pretty average CD was the beautiful "Outdoor Miner" by Wire. What a fucking amazing song that is. I think I played it 15-18 times in a row all the way home. Brilliant.

You're nothing if not a consistent shoegazer!  
Is that a bad thing?

No, not at all.  It's just a running joke I have with Rafe.  Messing with him about shoegazing.  We usually chat a few times a week, linking music to each other and I can't tell you how many shoegazing tunes that Silver Fox has sent me.  It's almost as often as another one of the guys we chat music sending his French Techno.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on February 24, 2011, 11:39:26 AM
I happened upon a long forgotten gem. Hiding at the end of this pretty average CD was the beautiful "Outdoor Miner" by Wire. What a fucking amazing song that is. I think I played it 15-18 times in a row all the way home. Brilliant.

You're nothing if not a consistent shoegazer!  

Consistent is just a kind way of saying "one-dimensional", but i'll take it :)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on February 24, 2011, 11:42:30 AM
Many people who know me think I am well-versed in music. They usually ask me about bands or if I like something, etc., because they are impressed with my deep knowledge of indie rock.

Sadly, I always think I am one-dimensional because I know a bit about the indie rock world, but know NOTHING about the rest of the world. I only found out about Ke$ha like, two weeks ago.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on February 24, 2011, 05:17:39 PM
You're even behind the chick in the cubicle next to me who only ever plays mixes she gets from her sister which are always dance songs from 8 months ago. 

She's been playing Ke$ha non-stop (djblowmyspeakersuptonightimafighttilIseethesunlight) for the last three weeks.

In order to subtly drive the point across that she might be playing Ke$ha too much, this week every time she puts on the same mix tape, I start playing the Adele album just as loud.  If you look at my last.fm profile and see how many times I've listened to the Adele album, you will have some idea of what it's like.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Doug on February 25, 2011, 08:48:47 AM
Headphones.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on February 25, 2011, 10:41:46 AM
I find it EXTREMELY difficult to listen to Matthew Sweet's GIRLFRIEND at the office WITHOUT singing. GAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on February 25, 2011, 01:00:35 PM
If you look at my last.fm profile and see how many times I've listened to the Adele album, you will have some idea of what it's like.

133 plays in the past 7 days. Ouch.


Of course, this leads me to the point that you've listened to Creed's "With Arms Wide Open" 115 times total. Was this a torturethon song or something?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on February 25, 2011, 01:17:05 PM
Yeah, that was for a torturethon.  My Last.FM profile is still jacked up though.  Because sometimes I scrobble, and sometimes I don't.  Since I've been on Rdio, it's been fairly accurate.  But I didn't use it when I was on Rhapsody.

I think I also have some insane number of listens to She and Him, and the only song I can name off that album is "In the Sun."  Someone burned it for me, so I think I had the CD in my work machine, someone called me, I turned down the volume, and then forgot about it.  And then it silently played all weekend 24/7 or something.

There was an exciting new development today:

My co-worker came into my office late yesterday and asked what I was listening to. I said "Adele."  "Oh, I really like this."  Guess what she's been listening to all day today?

So now I'm wondering:  Does she really like Adele, or is she fucking with me?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on February 25, 2011, 01:44:27 PM
My co-worker came into my office late yesterday and asked what I was listening to. I said "Adele."  "Oh, I really like this."  Guess what she's been listening to all day today?

So now I'm wondering:  Does she really like Adele, or is she fucking with me?

She has no taste and can be easily swayed. You should turn this into a science experiment! Slowly over the course of the next few weeks/months you need to turn her into an indie snob.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on February 25, 2011, 05:47:54 PM
Adele is a good listen for a more mainstream type of taste.  She probably just likes it and isn't fucking with you.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on February 25, 2011, 09:04:17 PM
Twenty-odd years down the line, I still love Carter the Unstoppable Sex Machine.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on February 25, 2011, 10:29:47 PM
Yeah, well at least the Adele album is genuinely good.  I mean, I like Adele.  Just not enough to listen to it for three days non-stop, and then overhear it for another day non-stop. 

Although in another interesting development, I discovered later on this afternoon that her other new, exciting band she is into is...... Mumford and Sons. 

I guess because of the grammys. 

So I got a Mumford and Sons/Adele mix for three straight hours.  Specifically Little Lion Man/Rumour Has It. 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on February 26, 2011, 07:57:22 PM
Fucking hell. Little Lion Man is awful, I can't imagine it on a constant loop. May whatever Gods you subscribe to torture Mumford and Sons in whichever version of hell you prefer.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on February 28, 2011, 12:46:03 PM
Twenty-odd years down the line, I still love Carter the Unstoppable Sex Machine.

I was Strokin!

(that's the same guy, right?)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: trixi on March 01, 2011, 12:13:25 AM
I'm really hoping you're joking Dan :-)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on March 01, 2011, 10:24:28 AM
umm, no?

In college someone in my dorm always played that song about strokin from Clarence Carter.
Considering the song topic and his last name, I thought it was the same? Otherwise, I have no idea who "Carter the Unstoppable Sex Machine" is.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on March 01, 2011, 11:29:26 AM
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Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on March 01, 2011, 11:42:07 AM
I have to say, while I could not stand most of the Madchester bands at the time I have a soft spot for all of the non and post-Madchester techno/rock/dance bands.

Jesus Jones, Ned's Atomic Dustbin, Utah Saints, Carter the Unstoppable Sex Machine, and even EMF.

I remember "Liquidizer" getting absolutely rave reviews when it came out, and I had to ask the record store guy to special order it.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on March 01, 2011, 02:49:45 PM
Oh. Thanks. Learning something new every day. :)

The song was really good and it's stuck in my head now. The video was  .... well, did we really dress like that back in the early '90s? Ouch. I hadn't heard of them obviously, as well as the Utah Saints, but I know the rest you listed.

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on March 01, 2011, 07:58:57 PM
Jesus Jones, Ned's Atomic Dustbin, [...] and even EMF.
Three of my favorites from 1991!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on March 02, 2011, 12:24:29 AM
It's pretty amazing how consistent UK bands from say 1989-1993 were at getting one, and exactly one hit in the US.  It was just a matter of how big that hit was.  I mean, a couple of them had like a hit and then a lesser "dance" hit that some of us know, but the average college listener would not.

Soup Dragons, EMF, Jesus Jones, Soul II Soul, Ned's Atomic Dustbin, The Farm, Utah Saints, Charlatans UK, Stone Roses, Sundays (if Here's Where The Story Ends even counts), Happy Mondays, James.  All one hit.  Even Blur only had one minor hit (and then Song 2 later on). 

Who didn't have hits?  Suede barely had a hit.  Saint Etienne.  Inspiral Carpets.

You know who had two hits?  Stereo MC's.  Why?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on March 02, 2011, 01:06:17 AM
And yet I have albums from almost every group you listed (although a couple of them were just picked up in the past few of years in the used bin - I guess I have that same soft spot/nostalgia).
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on March 02, 2011, 10:27:09 AM
What were the Stereo MC's hits?

I have buried in my pile of CDs somewhere their album from like 2000 or so with Runnin' and Deep Down and Dirty on it. I loved those songs. What else did they do?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Doug on March 02, 2011, 10:53:16 AM
What were the Stereo MC's hits?

I have buried in my pile of CDs somewhere their album from like 2000 or so with Runnin' and Deep Down and Dirty on it. I loved those songs. What else did they do?

Does it matter?  All their songs sound almost exactly the same.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on March 02, 2011, 11:49:05 AM
I'm going with "Connected" and "Step it Up."  I guess "Deep Down and Dirty" might qualify as a third.

And yeah, all their songs are exactly the same.

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on March 02, 2011, 12:03:28 PM
All of The Go! Team's songs sound exactly the same and yet I still love them. :p
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Doug on March 02, 2011, 12:43:08 PM
I never said I didn't like Stereo MCs.  Saw them at Womad and own and still listen to Connected and Supernatural.  Just an observation.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on March 02, 2011, 01:07:28 PM
I actually remember going to someone's house with my girlfriend at the time and the two of them wanted to hear "The To the Left Song" and having to fiddle with the CD player for like five minutes.

"This is it.  Yeah, this sounds right."  "No, I guess that wasn't it.  Wait, it's this one.  Noo....."
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Poolio on March 03, 2011, 11:24:39 AM
Somehow I think this represents everything wrong with pop music today. Not so much because she's a bad singer (and she ain't a good one)... but more because it's so auto-tuned that I am not sure her real voice is in here at all...

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Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on March 03, 2011, 01:58:00 PM
I had an discussion with a friend last weekend who made it clear that he hates auto-tuning in pop music but was floored by that James Blake album.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Poolio on March 03, 2011, 02:03:37 PM
I had an discussion with a friend last weekend who made it clear that he hates auto-tuning in pop music but was floored by that James Blake album.

Well, auto-tuning can be a good accent to a song since you can do things with it that the human voice just can't do... but, it is being abused.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on March 04, 2011, 09:00:12 AM
It's pretty amazing how consistent UK bands from say 1989-1993 were at getting one, and exactly one hit in the US.  It was just a matter of how big that hit was.  I mean, a couple of them had like a hit and then a lesser "dance" hit that some of us know, but the average college listener would not.

Soup Dragons, EMF, Jesus Jones, Soul II Soul, Ned's Atomic Dustbin, The Farm, Utah Saints, Charlatans UK, Stone Roses, Sundays (if Here's Where The Story Ends even counts), Happy Mondays, James.  All one hit.  Even Blur only had one minor hit (and then Song 2 later on). 

Who didn't have hits?  Suede barely had a hit.  Saint Etienne.  Inspiral Carpets.

You know who had two hits?  Stereo MC's.  Why?


Hey, I've got an idea.  Why don't you shut the fuck up.  Before I punch you in the face with my custom Harriet Wheeler brass knuckles.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on March 04, 2011, 09:27:48 AM
Slacker just decided I needed to hear Mumford and Sons.

Thank goodness for the Ban Artist button.

Only curmudgeons and people with no taste enjoy Mumford and Sons.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on March 04, 2011, 09:31:24 AM
Hey!  I resemble that remark.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on March 04, 2011, 09:47:10 AM
I've finally finished posting the 2010 woxy message board top albums.

http://woxy.com/boards/showthread.php?t=61804

I know everyone will be thrilled that Mumford & Sons came in at #12. ;)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on March 04, 2011, 10:08:44 AM
I have grown to really dislike The National, and that poll didn't help.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on March 04, 2011, 10:49:36 AM
Good for LCD Soundsystem, though!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on March 04, 2011, 10:52:27 AM
I have grown to really dislike The National, and that poll didn't help.

I was never been able to understand the appeal in the first place.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on March 04, 2011, 11:55:21 AM
You know how dude sort of pauses between "Blood," and "Buzz?"

I started like in my head drawing out the pause between "Blood" and "Buzz" as long as possible every time I heard that song.  Then I started doing it between for every pause in that song.  Then I started doing that for every pause in every National song.  Kind of ruined my enjoyment of the band.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on March 06, 2011, 07:58:06 PM
iTunes is new to me. My top 5 songs listened to are:

Minnie Ripperton - Les Fleurs
Mission of Burma - That's when I reach for my Revolver
Cardiacs - Big Ship
Augustus Pablo - King Tubby Meets the Rockers Uptown
Dumptruck - Ethics

So far, I'm loving iTunes, the iPod and the docking station/speaker thingy. Can't wait to start copying vinyl onto it in 2024, though :)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on March 08, 2011, 12:48:33 AM
They sell USB turntables for that right now, Rafe.  ;)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on March 08, 2011, 05:36:02 PM
Hehe, yeah. Nate, It'll take this particular dinosaur years to simply fill my iTunes with CD's! I think my brain would prolapse if I started messing around with converting vinyl in the near future, though :)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on March 09, 2011, 08:27:56 PM
Slacker just decided I needed to hear Mumford and Sons.

Thank goodness for the Ban Artist button.

Only curmudgeons and people with no taste enjoy Mumford and Sons.
They have too polished of a sound for the folk niche they're aiming for.
And I always got the vibe that they'd start a fight with you if you didn't "get" em, you know? "What? We're not hip? Alright, ya little poser, outside!"
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on March 10, 2011, 10:20:13 AM
They have too polished of a sound for the folk niche they're aiming for.
And I always got the vibe that they'd start a fight with you if you didn't "get" em, you know? "What? We're not hip? Alright, ya little poser, outside!"

Oh would they?  How would they feel about getting fucking stabbed to death with broken shards of their own CD's then?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on March 10, 2011, 11:09:30 AM
I hate Mumford and Sons so much I started to like Vampire Weekend.  Vampire Weekend comes on now, I'm like "Hell yeah, it's not Mumford and Sons!  Turn it up!"

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on March 10, 2011, 11:56:50 AM
I'm not with you on that.  I like Vampire Weekend, as long as I don't have to listen to their interviews or read about them.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on March 10, 2011, 01:29:09 PM
I realized that a lot of things I thought were annoying about Vampire Weekend are what really is super-annoying about Mumford & Sons. They had the same sort of aura and hype about them, if you know what I mean.  But now I know what pretentiously, face-punchingly bad white wussy "tasteful" music actually sounds like. 

Plus every ubiquitous, annoying Vampire Weekend article has been replaced by even more ubiquitous, and annoying Mumford and Sons
articles.

So that let me step back and once I did I kinda got over some of my misgivings about Vampire Weekend.  I still can't say they are my faves, but they've got a couple of songs I enjoy a little now.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on March 10, 2011, 04:12:12 PM
They have too polished of a sound for the folk niche they're aiming for.
And I always got the vibe that they'd start a fight with you if you didn't "get" em, you know? "What? We're not hip? Alright, ya little poser, outside!"

Oh would they?  How would they feel about getting fucking stabbed to death with broken shards of their own CD's then?

Hehe.

I think if a bunch of guys like that band offered me out for a row, I'd have to pinch myself to check that I wasn't dreaming that it was my birthday or something. If Conor Oberst happened to be in attendance at the same time, that'd be even more outstanding.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on March 14, 2011, 12:33:29 PM
I was in a supermarket on saturday afternoon, and they played both the Coral and Sundays on "ASDA FM". I was utterly flummoxed. Brilliant random listen, though. They might be Corporate cunts, the old Wal-Mart family, but whoever chooses their music is grade one.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on March 15, 2011, 05:48:49 PM
I have a favour to ask. I'm trying to hunt down a CD version of a really bad album that contains one of my favourite songs of all time. The band were Athletico Spizz 80 and the song is "Airships". Spizz himself is a bit of a dickhead, but that song is top class. To be honest, I don't even know if the LP was even released as a CD, but if it was, I'd like a copy. I was driving the other morning as dawn was breaking, and I thought about that song and how fucking good it would be to listen to it on my car CD player through it's busted speakers at that moment.

Anyway, if any of you stumble upon a copy on your jaunts both online or bargain bin shopping, please let me know. Thanks.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: matt on March 15, 2011, 08:38:12 PM
Never heard of 'em, but a quick search of the Googles came up with this file.  It has the track you're looking for.  I think it's a rip of the LP with the tracks split up.  I can rip it & send you a disc if you like.

http://chairshotrecords.blogspot.com/2008/07/athletico-spizz-80-do-runner-lp-1980.html

I went straight to that track at the end & it's pretty good.  I'll have to give the whole thing a proper spin for a full report on it's suckitude.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on March 25, 2011, 11:30:48 AM
So, one of those "we'll play anything" stations this morning played Sylvia's Mother by Dr. Hook and the Medicine Show.  Almost as sappy and melodramatic as Alone Again Naturally (as close as you can get anyway, that song is over the top).  The line at the end where the mother tells him to call back again confuses me though... why does she spend the whole song trying to keep him from talking her out of leaving and then tell him to call back?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on March 27, 2011, 10:54:51 PM
I was watching Belinda Carlisle's Mad About You video on this weird video channel just now.  How did I never notice that Andy Taylor plays the guitar solo?  Have I been that mesmerized by Carlisle's non-stop twirling all these years?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on April 01, 2011, 04:01:50 PM
Can't get the song "Oh Sherry" out of my head.

Made me wonder if MK hates Steve Perry's solo stuff as much as she hates Journey.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on April 04, 2011, 05:55:48 PM
I heard this tune at work today, and I actually stopped what I was doing to listen properly to it and write down the name of the band. I don't do that terribly often, so it really perked my ears up. I love it.

The Voluntary Butler Scheme - Do the Hand Jive:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OwwdgMNKvM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OwwdgMNKvM)

I hope the link works ok in the States. I often get youtube links that can't be viewed in the UK. The video is a pretty amusing added bonus. Casio-wielding Grannies in shellsuits!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on April 05, 2011, 10:26:32 AM
So, a few months ago I was talking to Andrea about Ariel Pink and trying to explain that apparently he is a real guy and has an album out under the artist name "Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti", which one of the Sirius-XM DJs said was named that way to "avoid confusion with the regular Ariel Pink stuff".  Sounds like pretentious nonsense, I thought.  Andrea then looked it up on the internet somewhere and saw the same information.

Fine, I dismissed it.  I mean, I like some songs off that album, but certainly not enough to go seeking out his alternate stuff that apparently sounds so different from this that it couldn't even be named the same.  I let it go.

Fast forward to this week, and apparently he is guest hosting with the afternoon DJ on Sirius-XMU all week at 5 PM.  Which happens to be my prime driving home time.  

Now first of all, let me just say that I tend to have a bad run of guest DJs in this slot.  Sirius-XMU likes to bring up people to guest, but they usually alternate them between 10AM-11AM or 5PM-6PM.  Usually, the people at 5 PM are people I couldn't care less about.  Some people that actively annoy me.  The afternoons have had Bright Eyes, The Decemberists (who actually did NOT come off as douches), and various other artists I generally don't care much for.  The mornings have had people like The Black Keys (who were douchey, but also HILARIOUS when I got to listen for 10 minutes or so), She and Him, Beach House, and Spoon among others, if memory serves.

The afternoon DJ also gets on my nerves as well.  She is Jenny Eliscu, who apparently sometimes writes for Rolling Stone.  If you listen for more than an hour, you will be reminded of that at some point.  Reminded as though it still carries some sort of cachet like this is the early '90's or something.  Also, she announces her twitter name like every 20 minutes.  And about 75% of the time, she says "reach me at twitter @jennyLSQ.  That's J-E-N-N-Y and then the letters L-S-Q."  Hey great.  You named yourself a cutesy phonetic version of your actual name.  I guess that's fine... except when I have to hear about it every fucking day.  I have probably heard this, no joke, like 200 times total.  I'm kind of sick of it.

Well put them together yesterday, and it reached well past my level of tolerance.  The very first thing that they say when he comes on is that apparently Ariel Pink is retiring from music to focus on films.  Then Ariel Pink proceeds to talk about movies and film.  He talks about how he is not connected to the internet at all (which apparently is the new "I don't even have a TV!" of indie hipster-ism), and has no twitter or facebook or myspace.

"Well, no one has myspace," I think.

He then goes on to decry that because of this, he is not able to debunk internet rumors about himself.  Need I point out the delicious irony of that?  Not to this crowd.  But in addition to that irony is the underlying belief that he believes there are dozens of rampant internet rumors out there about Ariel Pink, like he is sleeping with Lady Gaga or he is producing the next Justin Bieber album or something.  I would bet that maybe there is one, and I am guessing it is something like "hey, Ariel Pink went crazy because he changed the name of his band to 'Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti'.  What the fuck?"

Then, in the same segment mind you, he continues on to ramble about how brilliant he thinks Seinfeld and Larry David and Ricky Gervais are, and that he would like to do a comedy/reality show in that vein, about himself and how he thinks that no one would get it though because who could relate to his life?  Nobody wants to, you fucking douche.

Worst part of this is that Jenny, the "interviewer" for lack of a better term, says very little to nothing for the 5 minutes he is rambling and just lets him go on and on.  Hey, how about you chime in and save him from himself?  Or are you actually worried about pissing off Ariel Pink and are concerned with losing some sort of indie cred for telling him that he really needs to just stop talking and answer a question or two.

I hang around and listen to some songs.  Then they both come back on, and Ariel Pink then launches into why he picked the next song, which is some obscure song by Sisters of Mercy.  Not a bad choice.  But before he can even GET to it, I have to listen to another 5 minutes of why Sisters of Mercy's lead singer is not just some goth hero, but should be viewed upon as playing a joke on his audience because all of his songs are clearly tongue-in-cheek but his core fans just continue to eat it up, and this is the same thing that Lou Reed does, among others and that's what makes Lou Reed so brilliant, I remember this one time that Lou Reed was being interviewed....

Just ON AND ON like this for another 5 minutes.  I just thought I would share this by way of saying, I now hate Ariel Pink.  I guess I will continue to listen to his songs as I find them catchier than someone like Conor Oberst anyway, but that was maybe the worst radio and/or interview I've ever heard.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on April 05, 2011, 10:36:20 AM
I always thought dude was massively over-rated anyway. 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on April 22, 2011, 01:36:19 PM
I cannot stop listening to this stupid Dengue Fever album.  It's so cheesy, yet so awesome.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on May 04, 2011, 04:46:48 PM
When did Architecture in Helsinki turn into an 70's AM Gold version of Ace of Base?  Or is this more like bad 90's disco beats with sophistocrap vocals?

Whatever, it sucks.  BAD. 

If someone wants to make a bad dance/reggae cover of "Break-out" you know who to call.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on May 24, 2011, 02:36:13 PM
This curls my toes...in a good way. I never like Prince covers but this totally worked for me.

http://www.earmilk.com/2011/01/12/corinne-bailey-rae-i-wanna-be-your-lover-prince-cover/
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on May 24, 2011, 03:38:11 PM
Now first of all, let me just say that I tend to have a bad run of guest DJs in this slot.  Sirius-XMU likes to bring up people to guest, but they usually alternate them between 10AM-11AM or 5PM-6PM.  Usually, the people at 5 PM are people I couldn't care less about.  Some people that actively annoy me.  The afternoons have had Bright Eyes, The Decemberists (who actually did NOT come off as douches), and various other artists I generally don't care much for.  The mornings have had people like The Black Keys (who were douchey, but also HILARIOUS when I got to listen for 10 minutes or so), She and Him, Beach House, and Spoon among others, if memory serves.

I've hit a good run recently.  Was PJ Harvey a couple weeks ago, this week it is the guy from Fleet Foxes.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on June 02, 2011, 11:22:07 AM
If hip hop had come from England....

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Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on June 07, 2011, 10:54:00 AM
I might like this Cults album a lot more if it weren't the 1,278th album released in the last year that sounds exactly like this.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on June 07, 2011, 11:03:52 PM
I went to The Rosebud's album release party today at the local record store. Also in attendance was Mac McCaughan. I wonder what it's like to have the co-founder of your label drop in at your release party. :)

This was the music scene I expected to find in the triangle when I moved here 16 years ago. It just took the advent of twitter for me to figure it out.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on June 07, 2011, 11:31:47 PM
That's a pretty decent album, too.   I've given it a couple of spins on Rdio.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on June 08, 2011, 10:47:49 AM
I might like this Cults album a lot more if it weren't the 1,278th album released in the last year that sounds exactly like this.

I'm listening to it right now. I think I like it, but...hmmmmm...
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on June 09, 2011, 08:43:46 AM
Todays' GOOGLE logo is the COOLEST ever.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on June 09, 2011, 10:07:52 AM
Yes, yes it is.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on June 09, 2011, 10:47:00 AM
Whoa. Yes, it is indeed.

Does anyone have enough talent/skill here to play something recognizable?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on June 09, 2011, 10:57:02 AM
Sure.  Any requests?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on June 09, 2011, 10:58:41 AM
"Where Have All the Cowboys Gone"
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on June 09, 2011, 11:00:00 AM
Mumford and Sons.

Failing that, "Ragged Wood".
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on June 09, 2011, 11:14:37 AM
"Where Have All the Cowboys Gone"
And the kid is back with a GSPoTD!!!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on June 09, 2011, 11:20:01 AM
http://goo.gl/doodle/I2mb
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on June 11, 2011, 07:01:52 PM
I might like this Cults album a lot more if it weren't the 1,278th album released in the last year that sounds exactly like this.
I wanted to like this, but couldn't for the same reason.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on June 22, 2011, 11:56:39 AM
Chuck Klosterman's Rock VORP (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6674439/rock-vorp), which is an amusing article that I only skimmed, but then spent way too much time staring at his ranking of bands at the bottom.

You guys should find this interesting.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on June 22, 2011, 12:20:01 PM
I love Klosterman, but this is kind of a rehash on several other columns he has written before.

I would have thought he'd put Van Halen's "The Cradle will Rock" would be at 0, or "replacement level."
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on June 22, 2011, 01:34:17 PM
I haven't read him much (er, at all?) so it's new to me. And I was fully amused at B-SIRIUS.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on July 06, 2011, 02:25:46 AM
Dear KB from Raleigh, North Carolina:

You just made a one helluva move following me on Rdio.  Dare I say--- Life.  Changer.

I've been aware of your presence for months now.  I've even been following you.  And I've been waiting for just this day.  See, I've discovered that no one at Rdio worships at the twin alters of powerpop and twee more than me... except perhaps you.  Your taste in those two genres running straight from the 60's to today is immaculate.  I've picked up a few albums from browsing your stuff, and that's saying something since frankly I am pretty awesome in the area of sugary pop.  But what can I say?  Everyone misses something.  And that means you, too.

Like for the last two weeks, I've been thinking "Wow, too bad KB from Raleigh, North Carolina doesn't appear to know about this Curtains for You release, because this is right up her alley."  Only see, I couldn't message you that because I can only message followers.  And I can't even ask you to follow me.  All I can do is listen to my stuff (and yours) and contribute to your playlists and hope that at some point you will notice we are listening to the same stuff and realize we need to team up. 

I won't lie.  I began to despair.  Not for me, for you.  Why does KB from Raleigh, North Carolina not follow me?  After all, I follow her.  Could I have underestimated her pop savvy and somehow she still does not know who I am?  Or could this somehow be a deliberate snub?  Or perhaps you were stealthily shadowing me this whole time, simply checking out my profile while not formally adding me as a follow?  Is it possible KB from Raleigh, North Carolina somehow doesn't want to listen to any more awesome music?  Baffling. 

But now, all is right in the pop heavens again.

So... how are you liking that Curtains For You?   Awesome, huh?  Already on your heavy playlist.  I notice you added it right when you started following me.  Did you find me through that album, or did you find that album through me?  Doesn't matter.  You stick with me, there's plenty more where that came from. 

And to reward your sage judgment, here is a fine cut off the Colin Clary and the Magogs CD from a couple years ago for one of your playlists.  Nice, huh?  Check out the listeners on Rdio.  Only one person has ever listened to that album in all of Rdio.  And only one person has that in their collection.  No one even knows who freaking Colin Clary and the Magogs are.  Except me.  And now, because you made the right choice, YOU.  And can I just say?  I didn't just add that album via Rdio,  I own it.  It's in my Rdio collection because Rdio took it straight out the ID3 tags in my personal collection.  See?  I know my shizz.

I am sure that you, like me, were devastated at the loss of popsilly from Rdio.  I have who she was, what she does, or why she left, but she had an insane level of music knowledge and apparently also like 30 hours a day to listen to every single decent new release on Tuesday.  She was awesome.  And then one day, *boom* gone. 

I cannot hope to match her skillz overall, but I can definitely fill the gap in the power and twee arenas.  And rest assured, I take my followers seriously.  I will not let you down KB from Raleigh, North Carolina.  You made the right choice.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on July 06, 2011, 02:37:59 AM
I wonder if I know KB from Raleigh.

ETA: Just looked at her page - don't think I do.

Glad to finally figure out who my third follower finally is.  ;D
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on July 06, 2011, 10:33:04 AM
I will not let you down EH from Raleigh, North Carolina.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on July 15, 2011, 11:09:29 AM
So, I've been realllly digging this Priory record.

One of those fun things where you buy the CD (or in my case clicked on it) not really knowing anything about the band and not expecting anything at all.  And then it's like, "Huh.  There's something here.  Maybe I'll play that again."  Then it's like "Whoa.  That one song is really good.  I wonder if maybe there's something I'm missing in the rest of it?  I'd better play that again."  And then it just kind of grows and grows on you.  And you like the band more because you sort of stumbled into them instead of some magazine telling you how great you were.

So yeah, this album was bordering on taking over as my favorite album of the year.  And then today I made the mistake of looking them up in YouTube and watching a video.  My like for this band just went down like 150%. 


Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on July 15, 2011, 05:54:50 PM
The Lady of Late video? So I guess it's understandable that I laughed when I watched it (I tracked it down based on your post above)?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on July 15, 2011, 06:51:47 PM
So awful.  I might... *might* be able to overcome the concept, the costumes, and the acting as a result of attempting to put together something on a low budget.  It'd be hard because all of that is truly, truly horrible... but I think I manage.

But you know what?   I hate the way that band looks.  The bearded fauxhawk singer and his man jeggings, the David Cross-looking guitar player, all of it.  I tried to listen to a couple songs from the album today, and I just couldn't do it. 

But it IS a good album.  I think people should track it down and give it a listen.  Just don't watch them or any of their videos.  Ever.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on July 16, 2011, 08:44:32 AM
One of the first times I ever saw a guy with a faux hawk was when the lead singer of Travis was on the cover of Mojo or Q back in the very early 2000s. 

That sort of tells me everything I need to know about faux hawks.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on July 16, 2011, 04:03:37 PM
Travis. They were one of those bands, weren't they? Dreadful. I sort of hope that they, Starsailor, Athlete and the other lot who sound the same as the aforementioned yet I can't remember their band name are all as miserable in real life as their records made me feel when I first heard them on the radio. Fucking Starsailor.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on July 19, 2011, 07:48:54 PM
I was not really expecting much from this Portugal. The Man record but I'm somewhat impressed.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on July 25, 2011, 01:10:37 AM
"Nice little trick... but those were some important papers!" 


WHY ICE CUBE WHY?!?!?? >:( :-[ >:(
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on July 27, 2011, 01:57:25 PM
Remember that song from 10 or so years ago called "I Wish" (I wish I was a little bit taller, I wish I was a baller, I wish had a girl who was fly so I could call her...)

It just occurred to me that that that guy is NOT the Cee-lo Green who is rather successful today. That guy was called Skee-lo. D'oh.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on July 27, 2011, 02:42:38 PM
Cee-lo Green was/is in Goodie Mob, though.  So he does have a rap connection.

Prior to that, he was a WWE wrestler with a humorously shaped head and a bad ass persona before getting buried on the card, perhaps for accidentally paralyzing another wrestler in a botched pile driver attempt. 

No wait, that's D'Lo Brown.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on July 27, 2011, 02:55:00 PM
Cee-lo Green was/is in Goodie Mob, though.  So he does have a rap connection.

Prior to that, he was a WWE wrestler with a humorously shaped head and a bad ass persona before getting buried on the card, perhaps for accidentally paralyzing another wrestler in a botched pile driver attempt. 

No wait, that's D'Lo Brown.
Oh yeah. D'Lo Brown put out one of my favorite booty-shakin' jamz.

Wait. That was Doo-Doo Brown!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on July 27, 2011, 02:56:23 PM
Cee-lo Green was/is in Goodie Mob, though.  So he does have a rap connection.

Prior to that, he was a WWE wrestler with a humorously shaped head and a bad ass persona before getting buried on the card, perhaps for accidentally paralyzing another wrestler in a botched pile driver attempt. 

No wait, that's D'Lo Brown.
Oh yeah. D'Lo Brown put out one of my favorite booty-shakin' jamz.

Wait. That was Doo-Doo Brown!

Okay, now y'all are just makin' shit up.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on July 27, 2011, 03:27:36 PM
I need a dollar.

No wait, that's Aloe Blacc.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: dirk on July 27, 2011, 03:30:04 PM
Cee-lo Green was/is in Goodie Mob, though.  So he does have a rap connection.

Prior to that, he was a WWE wrestler with a humorously shaped head and a bad ass persona before getting buried on the card, perhaps for accidentally paralyzing another wrestler in a botched pile driver attempt. 

No wait, that's D'Lo Brown.
Oh yeah. D'Lo Brown put out one of my favorite booty-shakin' jamz.

Wait. That was Doo-Doo Brown!

Was that before or after he beat the crap out of Rihanna?

Oh wait, that was Chris Brown!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on July 27, 2011, 03:33:47 PM
I heard the Cowboys just cut him.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on July 29, 2011, 08:57:54 PM
I opted not to go to the Bon Iver show tonight, as it was still 103 at 7 PM and I didn't want to spend $43. In anticipation of the show, our local indy paper had this article (http://www.indyweek.com/indyweek/bon-ivers-long-wager/Content?oid=26209) on Justin Vernon. When he lived in Raleigh, his duplex was only about a half mile away from where I lived, and I sometimes walked right past it. He also worked at The Rockford, so there's a chance he was my waiter. (The original house they moved to from Wisconsin is a mile away.) I had no clue.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on July 30, 2011, 06:25:55 PM
Does anyone else think the choruses to Gnarls Barkley's Crazy and Adele's Rolling in the Deep are the same tune?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on August 01, 2011, 04:21:00 PM
Does anyone else think the choruses to Gnarls Barkley's Crazy and Adele's Rolling in the Deep are the same tune?
Nope. But, I see what you're thinking.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on August 01, 2011, 04:22:08 PM
I have listened to Friendly Fires' "Pala" like 80 times in the last week. I have no silence in my head. When I'm not listening to the album, I'm playing it in my head. It's started to get a bit unnerving but I can't NOT listen to it. Looooooooooooooooooove!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on August 02, 2011, 10:27:15 AM
I have listened to Friendly Fires' "Pala" like 80 times in the last week. I have no silence in my head. When I'm not listening to the album, I'm playing it in my head. It's started to get a bit unnerving but I can't NOT listen to it. Looooooooooooooooooove!

So what you're really saying is that if you used this song as a Torturethon song .... it wouldn't be torture?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on August 03, 2011, 12:33:35 PM
Well, the whole album, really. I guess "Hawaiian Air" would be the anti-Torturethon song of choice.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on August 10, 2011, 01:59:12 PM
Between Sledge's Modern Rock Mixup playing right now, and this George Michael/MTV (http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/post/_/id/32300/youtube-hall-of-fame-george-michael-a-knife-throwing-mom-and-a-space-armadillo) conversation, plus watching the new Cee-lo Green video with Jaleel White, I'm having a nostalgic flash back to the days when I loved loved loved music and my endless need to explore new magic.

It's almost like a drug it's so good. I feel 22 again.


If this was a sporting event, I'd be described as "in the moment" or "in a zone."
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on August 13, 2011, 10:54:54 PM
I actually spent money on that old Bran Van 3000 record today, took it home, played it and loved it. As a result, I forsee me re-filling the gaps in my record collection over the coming months with equally crap cd's. Won't be surprised if I drunkenly order Harvey Danger, Jane Wiedlin and Jellyfish discs online in the near future. Talking of crap buys, I think I'm the only guy alive to nearly wet my pants on finding a Jacob's Mouse album in good nick today. Jacob's fucking Mouse.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on August 14, 2011, 11:20:52 PM
Oooh, did you buy "Glee"? I love that album and still listen to it (the whole thing is on my phone, if that says anything).

And I also still like most of the Harvey Danger CD that I have. I listened to "Jack The Lion" the other day. Good stuff, even if the band were a bunch of a-holes.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on August 22, 2011, 01:53:43 PM
I've just realized over the last two days that Iron Maiden is just about perfect for listening to at work.  Really, any decent metal but especially Maiden.

It gets me pumped up without really be distracting.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on August 22, 2011, 02:27:24 PM
I've just realized over the last two days that Iron Maiden is just about perfect for listening to at work.  Really, any decent metal but especially Maiden.

It gets me pumped up without really be distracting.
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on August 23, 2011, 08:31:20 PM
I don't know if Spotify invites are still hard to get or still in-demand or what, but I have three so if you need one, send me a PM with your e-mail.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on August 23, 2011, 09:18:07 PM
PSA:  I don't really like the new Active Child record, but I think a few people here will really love it.

If you like falsetto Gregorian chants accompanied by New Age keyboards over vaguely funky R&B beats-- like say, Antlers or Bon Iver-- this is the record for you.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on August 29, 2011, 06:34:56 AM
I've bought 36 things from Amazon in my entire life, 14 of those were yesterday. This morning I happened upon the feature that shows you your purchase history. Very interesting, that. Of the 36 purchases, 35 have been CD's or LP's. Some great ones, a couple of clunkers. I bought a Skinny CD for 1 pence which is depressing if you're a former member of Skinny. Anyway, the solitary odd-one-out buy was this: Raclette spatulas. The sad thing is, I have no fucking idea where those sodding Raclette spatulas are, but am now, at about 11:30am, craving a Raclette banquet. Literally crawling up the wall for Raclette cheese and 576 side dishes, here, whilst listening to a CD by Skinny. Fucking Amazon.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on August 29, 2011, 11:04:14 AM
The new Wooden Shjips LP is brilliant. Fans of Spacemen 3, buy the blighter.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on August 29, 2011, 11:13:26 AM
I've got that on my list to listen to on Sept. 13 when it comes out.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on August 29, 2011, 11:21:34 AM
Nice one. You'll love it, mate. Bloody great record.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on August 29, 2011, 04:29:48 PM
I like the new Male Bonding album.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on August 29, 2011, 04:53:48 PM
Yeah, I like it too. Very catchy.   I wouldn't call it "Britpop" per se, but it does have a sort of 90's British rock feel to it.  Like one of the more pop/rock-ish shoegaze bands, maybe.  They seem to have pretty much abandoned their punk roots completely.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on August 29, 2011, 07:49:40 PM
I like the new Male Bonding album.
Listening to that right now.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on August 30, 2011, 09:36:46 AM
Remember the band called The Ataris? Or...maybe they are still around - I don't really know. Anyway, they did a cover of Don Henley's "The Boys of Summer" and while it may be blasphemy on this board with all y'all's music tastes.... I have to say that I totally love that cover. And I just added it to my ipod this weekend and am rocking out to it right now. I love the sounds of this track - just enough of the original with just enough of their own flavor. It's solid.

You may now mock me all you want.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: dirk on August 30, 2011, 10:04:25 AM
That is a fairly decent cover.  I really dig the Ataris.  That wasn't my favourite, but it was definitely good.  You have to like a band that can title a song "Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start".
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on August 30, 2011, 10:20:27 AM
Does some here worship Don Henley or something?  My general feeling is that song sucks ass.  So thank you Ataris, for covering it and making it suck slightly less.  

I got nothing against The Ataris.  I think it's a bit of shame that's all any remembers them for.  They actually weren't a bad band.  Just got lost in the pop-punk-emo shuffle.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on August 30, 2011, 11:51:49 AM
Yeah, I actually remember that The Ataris made their debut to me with a different song (forget which...something about going to camp or something?) and had a few songs after the Don Henley cover which were good, but it was always the cover that stuck with me. And I have the mp3. That helps.

I agree about getting lost in the shuffle tho.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on August 30, 2011, 04:45:47 PM
Just heard a 10,000 Maniacs song and got a flutter in my chest for Looney T-Birds. Sigh.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on August 31, 2011, 04:38:20 PM
The Ume album is fantastic and can be heard for free on Spinner. 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on August 31, 2011, 05:52:43 PM
It's nearly 11PM and i'm still at work. That means i've been listening to 6 Music for 14 hours without a break, other than listening to the Groundhogs Split album during my lunchbreak. I can't remember the last time I listened to one station for that long, not even 97x/woxy. I've really enjoyed it. Great company, the radio, when it's as consistently good and varied as this. Very glad the BBC didn't pull the plug on it last year.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on September 04, 2011, 03:13:21 PM
The new Baxter Dury album is a bloody good pop record. I know this may sound obvious, but christ, he sounds exactly like his old man vocally. Spitting image.

I despise The Horrors. Hate them. Pretentious shit. Obviously, I bought their new LP "Skying" anyway, and I have to say it it's absolutely fucking brilliant. I was entirely blown away and am enjoying it thoroughly. Good one, The Horrors.

I think a few of you here might like both of the above records if you haven't already had them for months :)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: kcneon on September 04, 2011, 11:42:42 PM

I despise The Horrors. Hate them. Pretentious shit. Obviously, I bought their new LP "Skying" anyway, and I have to say it it's absolutely fucking brilliant. I was entirely blown away and am enjoying it thoroughly. Good one, The Horrors.

This comment made me smile! That's what I call a turnaround, Rafe.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on September 06, 2011, 01:12:47 PM
Per Butter's PJ inclusion on that 7 for 7 mix, I am reminded to renew my personal quest to find a picture or video of Mick Harvey smiling.  I found one once but it gave me the creeping willies. 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 08, 2011, 02:10:45 PM
I just got around to buying the two Palmdale EPs from last year.  Very nice.  Thanks for the introduction, RVA!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on September 09, 2011, 10:16:00 AM
The Pains of Being Pure at Heart
The Pains at Being Pure of Heart


Is there really any difference? Is it okay that I cannot remember which one is correct?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on September 13, 2011, 09:59:10 AM
Some weeks there are a couple of major releases, and some weeks there are a couple of not-so-major releases but they are acts I'm particularly interested in.  But this week there are tons of both:  Grouplove, Ladytron, Mates of State, The Kooks, Wooden Shjips, Wild Flag, St. Vincent, Neon Indian, Kevin Devine, Nick Lowe.  Plus a bunch of singles. 

Do I try to listen to everything once and then pick out the best?  Or do I just pick 3 or 4 and listen to them a bunch of times and give them more of a fair chance to grow on me?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on September 13, 2011, 10:31:09 AM
You listen to them all and then make us a best-of mix.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on September 13, 2011, 12:26:28 PM
... or I could listen to Das Racist instead :laugh:
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on September 13, 2011, 02:03:57 PM
This Wild Flag album sounds pretty much exactly like Sleater-Kinney.  Mary Timony even goes that extra mile to throw in that annoying Corin Tucker hiccup at the beginning of words.

It still has Janet Weiss's drumming on it, though.  Which means it has to at least be some minimal level of awesome.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on September 13, 2011, 03:19:43 PM
Took me like a year and a half, but I am ready to declare that I quite enjoy "The Suburbs".  Have had the urge to listen to it every few days in the last couple of months.

I guess my stupid indie snobbishness was getting in the way or something.  I just couldn't get into it before.  There are a couple of clunkers, but it is overall brilliant.

I know, I'm taking a strong stand here.  But as much as I was disappointed in it when I first heard it, I am surprised that I have come back this far.  I really shouldn't be allowed to evaluate albums for at least 3 months after I've heard them.  Anytime an album is a "grower", I hate it at first and consign to the back reaches of my media player.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on September 13, 2011, 03:52:20 PM
Isn't it anti-indie snob to dislike that album?  I mean, the critics pretty much creamed/moistened their pants/panties the second that they heard that thing.  Unless it's indie snob to go against the indie snobs.  Like a indier-than-thou meta move.

Anyway, the Suburbs is okay.  I probably need to give it a longer listen as well... but I don't really feel guilty about it.  It sounds to me just like the rest Arcade Fire with the novelty worn off, so if Arcade Fire wanted me to give newer Arcade Fire a longer listen, Arcade Fire should have put out something a bit more attention-grabbing.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on September 13, 2011, 04:00:54 PM
Like a indier-than-thou meta move.

Yes, this is what I'm going with.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on September 13, 2011, 04:27:54 PM
Seriously.  Has anyone benefited more from sexual stereotyping than Sleater-Kinney? 

The mystique about them is not because they rock so well, but rather that they rock at all.  Because you know... they're girls.  If we accept the proposition that girls can rock hard and there is nothing at all spectacular about that, then by extension there is nothing spectacular about Sleater-Kinney.

S-K is a fantastic drummer and two mediocre guitarists who both apparently suffer from a 15 year case of the hiccups and are angry about it.


Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on September 13, 2011, 04:56:54 PM
I'd go with the latter, but that's because I still enjoy listening to whole albums a couple of times once I get them. That new Nick Lowe record is pretty good, though. I think he turned into Richard Hawley's dad on that album. And I'm already a fan of the Wooden Shjips CD. Great stuff, that one!

S-K is a fantastic drummer and two mediocre guitarists who both apparently suffer from a 15 year case of the hiccups and are angry about it.

Brilliant, I agree entirely. I do have a genuine soft spot for Sleater-Kinney, though :)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: va-vacious on September 13, 2011, 05:48:18 PM
You listen to them all and then make us a best-of mix.

x2!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on September 14, 2011, 03:32:08 PM
I thought the Grouplove album would be sorta okay with a couple standout tracks.  It's much, MUCH better than that.  And way more fun than I thought.

I thought the Wild Flag album would be pretty good, but massively overrated.  It's better than pretty good, and only slightly overrated.  And way more fun than I thought.  Needs more Mary Timony and less Carrie Brownstein on both vocals and guitar and Rebecca Cole could stand to take a larger role as well.  But that's a fairly minor quibble. 



Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on September 16, 2011, 11:09:47 AM
I'm listening to Bush right now, and I'm like "Hey, this ain't bad.  This kind of rocks."

Is this what music has come to?  I have to take Bush seriously as legitimate rockers?  Fuck you, Bon Iver.  And you too Animal Collective, you're the ones that started this.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on September 16, 2011, 01:25:05 PM
Come on, man! Bush are to music what Gareth Southgate was to penalty kicks :)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on September 16, 2011, 01:35:56 PM
I wonder how much it would cost to sign Chloe Chaidez to a 360 deal?  I would be willing to pay Paramore money, but I bet you could get her for half of that.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on September 16, 2011, 03:38:45 PM
Fire Through the Window, where you been hiding out?  How did I not know of you until today?

Something was released with guy-girl vocals, huge pop choruses, giddydance beats and a "whoo" count >50 and I wasn't notified?  This can't happen again.  Heads will roll.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on September 16, 2011, 05:43:35 PM
I like that Green Day song, Longview. I don't really know much about the band other than they were on the Simpsons, and their singer alledgedly has a microscopic penis. Like I said, really like that Longview number. The bassline is the thing that gets me. Just listened to it on Youtube. I then find that they did a cover of "Don't want to know if you are lonely" by Husker Du. It's shit. They ruined it. How do you ruin a perfect pop/punk song and strip it of all pathos? Ask Mr. Green Day.

I'm off to cleanse my ears with a bit of Reggae and forget I ever heard that shower of shit. Grant Hart must hate them.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on September 16, 2011, 05:48:29 PM
Jesus Christ. Anthrax covered Husker Du. I've actually heard far worse. See above.

Good for Anthrax, this is actually their best song ever :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbc5TrETjLY&feature=related

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on September 22, 2011, 05:08:34 PM
My sister reminded me today of my love for Violent Femmes when I was in HS.

She was like "Everyone else was just like 'Blister in the Sun' or 'Kiss Off' and laughed at the lyrics, but you were like completely dead serious about them as artists." 

It's true.  I used to sit in my room and play Hallowed Ground over and over the way other kids might play Pink Floyd.  I had it on a tape, but someone had xeroxed the album cover that had the lyrics for me and I'd just look at the lyrics and play it over and over.

I still feel that way about Violent Femmes, man.  Hallowed Ground is actually pretty deep in its exploration of religious/philosophical themes.  It's maybe not as cool when you go back and listen to it at 40, but what is?  That album perfectly captured a particular state of teen angst the same way say, "Catcher in the Rye" or "Slaughterhouse 5" do.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on September 23, 2011, 11:58:24 AM
I like the new Male Bonding album.
Listening to that right now.

Only one problem: almost every song sounds exactly the same.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on September 23, 2011, 12:02:51 PM
Fire Through the Window, where you been hiding out?  How did I not know of you until today?

Something was released with guy-girl vocals, huge pop choruses, giddydance beats and a "whoo" count >50 and I wasn't notified?  This can't happen again.  Heads will roll.

*adding to Rdio queue*
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on September 23, 2011, 12:18:24 PM
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I'm watching/listening to Rihanna's song "Cheers (Drink To That)" for the first time.

Random thoughts:
The lyrics are ... very basic.
The tempo is a lot slower than I'd expect a Rihanna single to be.
How does she get her stomach so shiny? Is this a good thing?
I hate hate hate hate those shorts that go halfway up her stomach. I have always hated this, and I suspect I always will. No thank you. Even if Rihanna walked up to me today and said she wanted me, I'd tell her she needs to change if she's wearing those.
She is still beautiful.
This song is boring.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on September 23, 2011, 12:24:04 PM
Why??
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on September 23, 2011, 12:30:00 PM
I never thought Rihanna was that hot.  I think she's a pretty good singer, but I also don't need to hear her on every single R & B track released.

I've been listening to these gals/guy non-stop for like, two days.
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Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on September 23, 2011, 12:40:32 PM
Hey that was pretty sweet. I enjoyed that. Thanks for the heads up - now they just need to travel south of the border.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on September 24, 2011, 12:27:14 PM
The new Baxter Dury album is a bloody good pop record. I know this may sound obvious, but christ, he sounds exactly like his old man vocally. Spitting image.

I despise The Horrors. Hate them. Pretentious shit. Obviously, I bought their new LP "Skying" anyway, and I have to say it it's absolutely fucking brilliant. I was entirely blown away and am enjoying it thoroughly. Good one, The Horrors.

I think a few of you here might like both of the above records if you haven't already had them for months :)

I'm checking out the Baxter Dury album right now. Interesting stuff.

The Horrors album is growing on me as well.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on September 25, 2011, 02:53:15 PM
I finally put my finger on what's wrong with this Mates of State album.  Their earlier albums had some sarcastic, humorous aspects to them.  Or they were just silly.

But pretty much every single song is about how much they are in love with each other and how freaking fantastic it is.  And while it's somewhat moving maybe to hear a two lovebirds sing about love so fervently it starts to resemble a gospel choir, it gets pretty old real fast.  Every song is just soooo syrupy and uplifting.  They've become that super-annoying couple.  It's like Pam and Jim on the office.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on September 27, 2011, 04:36:45 PM
This Wilco album is so boring I stopped it half-way through... to listen to Dum Dum Girls.

That's just sad.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on September 27, 2011, 04:57:29 PM
I am confused. The 2012 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominees have just been announced and amongst the list is "The Small Faces/The Faces". As if both bands were somehow interchangeable. Yes, members of the Small Faces went on to be in The Faces, but they were two distinctly different bands. I think they've goofed here.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on September 29, 2011, 01:33:54 PM
It's really nice having all my CD's organised again, I can find shit really easily now. Case in point, I just put my hands on an old Man or Astroman? CD and listened to "Time Bomb" 12 times in a row. I even played Air Drums along to it for the first few times, until they started to ache and I started to drop the Drumsticks after an over-exuberant assault on the Air Snare.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 29, 2011, 04:08:58 PM
I am confused. The 2012 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame nominees have just been announced and amongst the list is "The Small Faces/The Faces". As if both bands were somehow interchangeable. Yes, members of the Small Faces went on to be in The Faces, but they were two distinctly different bands. I think they've goofed here.

Right up there with Fountains of Wayne getting the Grammy for Best New Artist when Welcome Interstate Managers came out... I guess if new means you've had less than four albums...
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on September 29, 2011, 05:54:18 PM
This Wilco album is so boring I stopped it half-way through... to listen to Dum Dum Girls.

That's just sad.

I'm listening to it right now. I agree. Boring as shit.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on September 30, 2011, 11:55:26 AM
Just heard a song by Of Monsters and Men on KEXP called "Little Talks." As it was starting it had horns and a loud, bombastic, upbeat pace and sound. I was loving it. Then the two singers cut in...and it sounded like something from Stars - slow, quiet, emotional, and boring. Then they go back and forth between the two for the rest of the song....and only when they merge the bombastic horn and drum parts with the vocals does the song finally become good.

I approve of this track, if I can fast forward to half-way through it.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on October 03, 2011, 09:22:20 AM
Thin White Rope were brilliant. Listening to one of their albums now, I forgot how bloody good they were. Were they ever a notable band in the States, you know, a bit like Dream Syndicate and that lot, or were they considered more like EIEIO and all those similar third rate bands from the time? I'd be intrigued to know. Whatever, they were top class. A bit ahead of their time, maybe.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on October 03, 2011, 10:15:46 AM
mk probably has a better take than I do, but I would say they had/have pretty good critical acclaim here, are known as "legit" and are well-admired by fans of the Paisley underground.  So they have their own cult following.  But they didn't achieve that much popularity compared to some of the other PU bands (most of which became big after ditching the PU sound).  From what I have read, they were bigger overseas than here.

Still and all, definitely a notch above E-I-E-I-O in terms of popularity and general regard.

In my mind, the Bangles (disregarding "Walk Like an Egyptian"), Thin White Rope, Three O'Clock and Rain Parade were/are all legitimately good Paisley Underground bands. 

I like Long Ryders and Green On Red but I think of them more as cow-punk. 

And I never liked Game Theory and tend to regard them as more of a generic-y "college" band. 

Same thing with Dream Syndicate. "Days of Wine and Roses" is a really good album and that kind of broke them (and Paisley Underground) into the college mainstream.  But then after that, they sort of went MTV and every album was a different lineup on a different label with a different but-still-generic sound.  Steve Wynn has done some pretty good stuff solo and with Gutterball after The Dream Syndicate.

It doesn't help that all the Thin White Rope albums are OOP and unavailable on iTunes or any of the subscription services.

I believe Prince is a Thin White Rope fan.  The band, I mean.  Not the homoerotic implication.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on October 03, 2011, 12:22:45 PM
thanks for clearing that up. I'm pleased they were viewed as a decent band, because by christ they were. Only reason I mentioned them earlier is because I stuck on an old LP of theirs this morning and it was/is pretty classy.

Some of those bands you mentioned I actually like a lot as a kid, but they weren't widely known to the Indie kids over here at the time. Maybe they were, but at 11-14 I didn't have too many people to rap about bands like Art Phag and True West with. Some of them were of course, but bands like Naked Prey and When People Were Shorter and Lived Near the Water were only covered by one of the Music Weeklies, namely "Sounds". The best thing Sounds did was write about Mudhoney, but that came later.

I realise the bands I mentioned don't all huddle under the Paisley Underground umbrella, but then my local record shop had it's own section back then, and the guy that owned it called all the American Indie stuff at the time "Garage". I know some of the sub-genres of course, but I still use Garage to describe all that shit, mostly inaccurately I'm sure.

Gutterball were the band with Bryan Harvey in it, weren't they?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on October 03, 2011, 08:09:23 PM
Completely unrelated to the Paisley Underground, but Springsteen's Nebraska and that new Wooden Shjips record soundtracking an evening spent on the patio drinking beer and swapping silly stories is a hell of a good tonic for something.  I don't know what exactly because I wasn't feeling bad before or anything.  But, in spite of the mosquitoes and neighbor's ceaseless leaf blowing, who am I to complain?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on October 04, 2011, 07:26:15 AM
I am seriously thinking of buying and learning the ukulele... so I can be as good as this guy...

snPQ1z5FoqQ
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on October 04, 2011, 10:25:39 AM
I have a Uke, but I play George Formby songs in the style of George Foreman. Unlike that guy.

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on October 04, 2011, 11:13:31 AM
I have a Uke, but I play George Formby songs in the style of George Foreman. Unlike that guy.
"When I'm cleaning windows in Zaire"? That kinda thing? ;)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on October 04, 2011, 11:51:01 AM
Exactly that :)

"Every night and every day, when I'm taken to the cleaners!"
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on October 04, 2011, 11:58:28 AM
That guy's hands are *GIGANTIC*

heyjakeheyjakeheyjakelet'shaveashake, heyjakeheyjakeheyjakelet'shaveashake
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on October 04, 2011, 12:05:35 PM
Boring CD of the week:

Feist
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Poolio on October 12, 2011, 06:36:42 PM
As if you don't have enough to listen to already (http://www.nerdist.com/2011/10/nerdist-podcast-132-ben-folds/), but you should totally listen to this one with Ben Folds.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on October 13, 2011, 11:41:41 AM
It seems to me like the fascination with Girl Talk (aside from dropping E, dressing like an idiot and being super-annoying at shows) lies with thinking you are very clever for knowing all the samples.

Every time I'm someplace and Girl Talk is playing, some hipster has to elbow me and go "Hey check it out.  Do you know that bassline?"  Yes, I do.  It's Fugazi's "Waiting Room."

But here's the thing.  You know it's Fugazi and Rihanna.  I know it's Fugazi and Rihanna.  Therefore, while you might THINK you are clever for knowing both Fugazi and Rihanna.  You're really not.  Now take it one step fruther:  since the whole fun of it is playing spot the sample, Girl Talk is purposely picking samples that you know.  Otherwise you'd just be like "Oh, this is a song with some chick singing over some bass.  I don't get it."  So it's purposely dumbed down for us. 

The other reason to listen to Girl Talk is because the mash-ups are so clever.  Like "How did he get this rhythm to go with this song?"  Well, I have news for you.  Probably like 99.9999999% of all rock/pop songs ever written are in 4/4 time (or in a minority of cases 2/4 which is really the same thing).  The only difference is tempo, pitch and the complete line like whether your verse/riff/progression goes for 12 bars or 8 or 16.

But with modern technology you can change the tempo and pitch of any loop.  And you can easily play a loop twice to add a measures, especially since a full progression is almost always a multiple of four.  So pretty much any bass line goes with any drum goes with any vocal you want.  I'm not saying it's easy-- I can't imagine how long it takes for Girl Talk to piece all the shit together-- but I'm saying it's not clever.  It's mostly a lot of grueling and boring gruntwork.  But I could teach you to do it in about half an hour.

Plus it's always the same formula.  It's always hip-hop/mainstream vocals, with indie instrumentals underneath, and then a big rock star chorus.  Why not try the indie vocals over a hip-hop beat and a classical chorus?

I don't know.  It's not like I think music has to be clever to be good.  I suppose for people who like Girl Talk it's like all their favorite bits of songs of all their favorite songs squished together for concentrated happiness.  But for me, I'm into it for about 5 minutes, and then I always end up focusing on whatever is the weakest part.  Like all I can think is "I wish I could hear 'Waiting Room' without Rihanna over it and it would last for more than 30 seconds," or how little I want to learn to Dougie, or care what Jane Says.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on October 17, 2011, 06:17:51 PM
So, I got pretty excited when I saw that Ian Brown said of the Stone Roses rumored reunion "It's happening."  I thought, "This is the one.  This is the one I've waited for."

Then I saw that the source was a text message some magician named Dynamo gave to the Sun.

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on October 18, 2011, 10:27:20 AM
I shall never doubt a magician's word again.

The legendary four-piece - Ian, John, Mani and Reni - have announced two massive shows at Manchester's Heaton Park on Friday June 29 and Saturday June 30, 2012. The dates will form part of an extensive world tour.

The band have already been into a rehearsal studio to start work on the set-list for the one of the most eagerly anticipated reunifications ever.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on October 18, 2011, 12:21:52 PM
I'm gonna say "one of the most eagerly anticipated reunifications ever" is a bit of an overstatement.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on October 18, 2011, 12:34:07 PM
I don't know, it's not an overstatement for people like me.   ;)  I think that does carry more weight overseas where they were a really big deal and, in many ways, a cultural icon.  The Smiths reforming would be bigger news, but I can't think of another band that could reform with it's "starting/glory days line-up" that would be bigger right now.  At least for the indie world.

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on October 18, 2011, 12:39:44 PM
I can't think of another band that could reform with it's "starting/glory days line-up" that would be bigger right now.  At least for the indie world.

Haysi Fantayzee? ;)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on October 19, 2011, 11:40:07 AM
I started listening to The Complete Smiths boxset today at work.  I really rarely listen to Smiths anymore.  Maybe 3-4 times a year, tops and usually just half of Louder Than Bombs.  But I knew all the words to "Reel Around the Fountain." 

Then I realized I know pretty much all the words to every Smiths song.  I mean I have listened to The Smiths a lot, but I am not like one of those crazy obsessed Smiths-Mozz fans.  There are probably 4-5 albums that came out this year that I've listened to as much as I listened to Queen is Dead when it came out.

It's very odd.  I think it's a combination of my brain being in its prime at that time and just soaking up info like a sponge, plus the fact that in those days when I listened to music I really listened, plus just not having so much other extraneous crap floating around in my brain (musical and non-musical).
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: kcneon on October 19, 2011, 03:16:30 PM
The "Crazy Train"/Honda Pilot ad makes me miss writing commercials.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on October 19, 2011, 03:55:03 PM
It makes me want to drive a Honda Pilot into a brick wall.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on October 19, 2011, 04:36:47 PM
It makes me want to drive a Honda Pilot into the guy who wrote that ad.  And then into a brick wall.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on October 24, 2011, 10:33:52 PM
Congratulations to Amy Winehouse for over 100 days sobriety!

What?  Why are you looking at me like that?  Is this thing on?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on October 24, 2011, 11:11:04 PM
Congratulations to Amy Winehouse for over 100 days sobriety!

What?  Why are you looking at me like that?  Is this thing on?

Actually, that's hilarious.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on October 25, 2011, 09:06:14 AM
Following the coroner's report it can be confirmed that Amy Winehouse was the first celebrity to die from a drugs underdose
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: notoriouspbake on October 25, 2011, 09:53:43 AM
there aren't many cd reviews on the message boards...

i hope the influx of new blood will post new reviews and help with my music searches.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on October 25, 2011, 09:55:08 AM
Congratulations to Amy Winehouse for over 100 days sobriety!

What?  Why are you looking at me like that?  Is this thing on?

Fuck, that's funny.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on October 26, 2011, 12:45:28 PM
I've pinpointed exactly how much I like M83.  I like them 43 minutes and 28 seconds much.  Unfortunately, the new M83 record is 1 hour and 13 minutes.  Anyone want some extra M83?  I'm not going to use it all.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on October 27, 2011, 06:29:32 AM
I've pinpointed exactly how much I like M83.  I like them 43 minutes and 28 seconds much.  Unfortunately, the new M83 record is 1 hour and 13 minutes.  Anyone want some extra M83?  I'm not going to use it all.

Is it?  Jesus.  I was going to get that record here soon, but now maybe not.  "Steve McQueen" sounds almost exactly like "We Own the Sky", just with a couple of minor differences... at least to me.  Just wondering if he is just rehashing things or what.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on October 27, 2011, 09:56:40 AM
I wouldn't say the album is a radical departure, but I wouldn't say M83 is just rehashing things either.  Like Midnight City with it's sax and poppier, more conventional feel is definitely a little different to things he/they have done before.

It's not a bad album at all.  But even the Pitchfork I just read (in one of the most pretentious reviews ever written) alluded to the fact that the "temptation" is there to just pick out 50 minutes of tracks you like.  Which is about right.  Take the 10 or 11 songs you like best out of this, make a playlist, and you got yourself a fine album.

Of course, any normal reviewer would just say "Hey, this double album is a little excessive.  Because you know.... IT'S A DOUBLE ALBUM."  I mean, you can count on one hand the number of studio double albums ever released that didn't end up getting boring, sloppy and/or self-indulgent.  The best double albums are good precisely because they are sloppy and self-indulgent.  It's just something in the larger cultural background (ie. band was completely stoned and/or falling apart or else you are), there's something appealing about the messiness.

If you only want to hear 50 minutes of this album, then 73 minutes is 23 minutes too long.  Simple.  But noooooo.  For Pitchfork, it's a "temptation" to be resisted lest you be deemed a puny mortal.  REAL pretentious assholes listen to the whole thing and jizz all over themselves to give it a 9.1.

Yeah, but anyways if you just pluck out whatever you deem to be the best 9-11 songs on this album and turn it into a playlist, you'd have a pretty good album.  So you're definitely getting your money's worth on a per-song basis because it's single album priced.  You'll just end up throwing some stuff away is all.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on October 27, 2011, 01:17:21 PM
Watch elbow Live From Manchester Cathedral Here Today
3PM PST / 6PM EST / 9PM GMT
WORLDWIDE STREAM

Today on Thursday, October 27th 2011, elbow will be playing an exclusive show for BBC Radio 2 at Manchester’s Cathedral.

The homecoming gig is not only being shown on the BBC Big Screen at Exchange Square in Manchester City Centre, but also at www.elbow.co.uk at 3PM PST / 6PM EST / 9PM GMT.
 
Radio fans can also tune into this unmissable event live on BBC Radio 2. The encore will be broadcasted live on BBC 6music from 10PM GMT (4PM PST/7PM EST) on Gideon Coe's evening show.


This stream will be available to watch worldwide.
www.elbow.co.uk
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on October 27, 2011, 01:22:43 PM
OOPS. They just corrected the previously posted times.

elbow will be performing live at 1PM PST / 4PM EST / 9PM GMT as a WORLDWIDE STREAM via the bands website

Enjoy!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: MissKitty on October 27, 2011, 02:44:37 PM
Thanks Lando!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on October 27, 2011, 03:39:05 PM
Thanks Lando!
You're welcome.

BTW, what the what?!?!?!
http://www.elbowbeer.co.uk/#
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: MissKitty on October 27, 2011, 03:54:58 PM
I think FG and Four are the ones to talk to about that!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jen on October 27, 2011, 03:55:09 PM

BTW, what the what?!?!?!
http://www.elbowbeer.co.uk/#


A few of us ordered some of that...us being four, fg and me. Not sure if FG ordered one of his own as well as going in with 4 and me. I am sure someone wouldn't mind helping a fellow fan out. :)

I hope to watch that video at home. Do we know if it is UK only on Elbow's site? I know if you watch on the Beeb it is (unless you have a proxy which we do have).
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on October 27, 2011, 04:01:57 PM
"Not Available In Your Area".

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I need to snuzzle in Guy Garvey's beard for just a minute.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on October 27, 2011, 05:01:10 PM
So I take it I'm the only one who thought Build a Rocket Boys! totally sucked ass?

That thing made Coldplay sound like aerobics music.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: MissKitty on October 27, 2011, 05:41:08 PM

A few of us ordered some of that...us being four, fg and me.
Duh Jenny, I didn't realize who you were! My bad!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on October 27, 2011, 06:31:33 PM
So I take it I'm the only one who thought Build a Rocket Boys! totally sucked ass?

No, I thought it was disappointingly bad.  I was pretty fired up for it too, so I couldn't tell if it just didn't meet my lofty expectations, or if it was actually just not good at all.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jen on October 28, 2011, 07:48:11 AM
"Not Available In Your Area".

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I need to snuzzle in Guy Garvey's beard for just a minute.

I just shared a link on Facebook (from their page)...an interview with Guy, Jo and Pete about The Temple Bar. Not sure anyone gets a word in edgewise when Guy gets a microphone in his hand. :D

Also, I noticed that this is available on the iPlayer. Hoping to see if we can download it. If so, I'll try to score you a copy. :)

Here is a little preview I just found: Lippy Kids (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00lfzzk)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on October 28, 2011, 08:51:34 AM
So I take it I'm the only one who thought Build a Rocket Boys! totally sucked ass?

No, I thought it was disappointingly bad.  I was pretty fired up for it too, so I couldn't tell if it just didn't meet my lofty expectations, or if it was actually just not good at all.

It was a let down, but it was bound to be after SSK.  Still, it's got a number of songs on it that I like a bunch, but it is, for me, their least essential recording.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on October 28, 2011, 02:03:22 PM
The tea cooking is broken down like this:

Mrs. Foolsgold: cookies, tart filling, candies, mousses, savory stuff with dairy, decorating desserts,
Me: soups, quiches, cupcakes, stovetop dessert stuff (berry compotes, lemon curd)
We: scones

If she is cooking alone, she generally does so without any music.  She just doesn't think of it.  Last night, I noticed that when I am making soups, I like listening to big, expansive music (the new M83 yesterday, went through a Mahler phase last month).  Quiches, I need either need drug rock (Wooden Shjips, any band with Black in its name) or golden age hip hop.  Stove top stuff, varies.  Scones require something frenetic (electronica or Perez Prado.)

Generally, I never listen to stuff I'm not already familiar with and almost never anything introspective or quiet.  I tried to listen to ballgames on the radio, but I could never follow the action.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on October 31, 2011, 05:07:54 PM
John Cooper Clarke is still a fucking hilarious genius. He's possibly on better form these days than ever. Gawd bless 'im!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Fourthisto on November 02, 2011, 11:11:41 AM
Who the hell is John Cooper Jingleheimer Clarke?

Mrs. Foolsgold: tart filling

 :ninja: (pretend the ninja is silently ROTFL)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Chris on November 04, 2011, 08:04:41 PM
The music video for Duck Sauce's "Big Bad Wolf" wants to make me want to wash out my eyes with rubbing alcohol.

That was disturbing.  :-X
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on November 06, 2011, 09:34:43 AM

I despise The Horrors. Hate them. Pretentious shit. Obviously, I bought their new LP "Skying" anyway, and I have to say it it's absolutely fucking brilliant. I was entirely blown away and am enjoying it thoroughly. Good one, The Horrors.

This comment made me smile! That's what I call a turnaround, Rafe.

Hehe, you're telling me! I just listened to the album again all the way through as I was preparing lunch here, and I thought to myself, "You used to think this rabble were a bunch of tossers". A really good record, that. My number one for the year is the Yuck album, but that Horrors disc is brilliant :)

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on November 09, 2011, 09:59:11 AM
This Summer Camp album is A LOT better than I thought it was gonna be.  I liked the singles I'd heard, but I was kinda thinking it was going to be another Best Coast, fuzzed-out-vocals-over-mellow-electronica thing.  What people are calling "surf" even though it sounds nothing at all like surf music.

And it is kind of like that, but also a lot more poppy than I expected.  There's definitely a couple dogs on this album, but for the most part the vocals are clear and the singer has a pretty strong voice. 

It's way better than Cults or Best Coast.  And for once, the good band actually has a bit of buzz behind it, so maybe people will actually listen to this instead of me playing it for them and them going "Yeah, that's okay,  but I know dick about music... so I'll just take this opportunity to bend your ear off about how awesome Cults is instead."
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on November 09, 2011, 10:05:15 AM
Two thumbs up on new Atlas Sound album.

Bradford Cox is co-hosting afternoons on Sirius/XMU this week.  And he is kee-raz-ay!!!  I say that as a huge fan of both Deerhunter and Atlas Sound... he may actually be mentally ill.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: rva on November 09, 2011, 10:45:43 AM
I'm not sure, but I think Bradford Cox might be gay.  Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on November 09, 2011, 01:11:51 PM
I should be really excited about the Stone Roses concerts I'm going to, but I'm not.  In fact, I'm sort of depressed about how swept by the tide I was in procuring the tickets.  Face value was around $80 (and I paid a lot more than that thanks to the bastard scalpers) for the privilege of standing in a field with 75,000 other fans watching a band well past their prime fronted by a singer who can't carry a tune. 

In the excitement of the news, I lost all perspective and am giving serious consideration to selling off my tickets.  It's given me such a bad taste in my mouth that I don't even like hearing their songs much right now.  Hopefully, things will improve and I can get excited about it the closer it gets, but right now, meh.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on November 09, 2011, 01:59:52 PM
I should be really excited about the Stone Roses concerts I'm going to, but I'm not.  In fact, I'm sort of depressed about how swept by the tide I was in procuring the tickets.  Face value was around $80 (and I paid a lot more than that thanks to the bastard scalpers) for the privilege of standing in a field with 75,000 other fans watching a band well past their prime fronted by a singer who can't carry a tune. 

In the excitement of the news, I lost all perspective and am giving serious consideration to selling off my tickets.  It's given me such a bad taste in my mouth that I don't even like hearing their songs much right now.  Hopefully, things will improve and I can get excited about it the closer it gets, but right now, meh.

I can totally understand how you feel about the whole process. I really hope that you start to get enthused at the thought of seeing them nearer the time, I know how theoretically important it is/has been to you to see them live at last.

The thing I'm curious about is who the other bands on the bill will be. I've a suspicion that the Gallaghers might be making an appearance, which would be utterly dreadful. On the other hand, Ride could re-form for the gig! I really would be pissed off if that happened :)

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on November 09, 2011, 02:47:49 PM
In a perfect world, it would be a day of sad, old Madchester bands blowing dust off their back catalogs.  Who wouldn't want to hear 75K drunks singing along to "All Together Now" or "Can You Dig It?" 

I think it would be fun if Mani pulled double duty when Primal Scream opened.  As long as John Squire doesn't do the same a drag the Seahorses or, worse, his solo stuff out.

Truthfully, I hope they give a slot or two to some young up and comers.  I don't really care who, just something to deviate from a full bore nostalgia-fest.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 09, 2011, 03:04:05 PM

The thing I'm curious about is who the other bands on the bill will be. I've a suspicion that the Gallaghers might be making an appearance, which would be utterly dreadful. On the other hand, Ride could re-form for the gig! I really would be pissed off if that happened :)


I heard an interview with Noel on Cue last night, he was pretty adamant that he's not doing anything with Liam again anytime soon said he stopped working with him for a reason and those reasons haven't changed.  But he did say that Liam is free to play his songs live all he wants... as long as he fills out the appropriate royalties paperwork.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Butter on November 17, 2011, 10:30:18 AM
I'm not sure, but I think Bradford Cox might be gay.  Not that there's anything wrong with that.

I don't know about that, but he sure can make a fine album.

I can't stop listening to this.  But I am sure that means rva hates it.  Not that it really makes any difference towards my enjoyment of the album, but that seems to be how these things go.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: virgil p colon on November 17, 2011, 08:46:52 PM
Two thumbs up on new Atlas Sound album.

I still need to check this album out.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on November 18, 2011, 10:45:08 PM
I just concocted an immense tracklist for a Mix-CD. It would serve as an unutterably fantastic Christmas present for a mate of mine, until I realised I don't have the raw materials/hardware to record said CD. I'm going to have to make it a mix tape, which will probably take me fucking hours to compile and may not actually get listened to, because he might not own a cassette player anymore.

If that's the case, I'll just send it to Trixi :)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: trixi on November 18, 2011, 11:07:52 PM
Thanks for thinking of me Rafe!  I gladly accept mix tapes, especially if it's as fantastic as you say it will be.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Juliana on November 20, 2011, 08:55:58 AM
Okay, so we all know I was a diehard Better Than Ezra fan back in the day (the day being approximately 10ish years ago?), right?  I mean, yeah, I was really REALLY into them.  I drove to Atlanta and Charleston (SC) to see them in a weekend in 2000ish.  I've see them live something like 12 or more times.  I used to know the exact #, but I can't recall anymore.  Could be several more.  I probably gave some of you either whole albums, or mix tapes/cds with their songs.  Most importantly, I tore their message boards up, and met a lot of really good people in the process (even pre-woxy boards).  

Thing is, I don't really care about them anymore.  Yes, I still like, even love some of their songs.  Granted, I usually skip them on my iPod, but not always, and I am happy to hear them when I"m in the mood.  There are probably a few songs that I would never skip.

I think mainly it was that they put out a couple of cds that I just didn't care for (they're not good).  

My point, yes I have one, is that some of thse awesome people I met on the BTE boards, they are still obsessed.  They're still traveling all over to see the band.  Going on Rock cruises.  The few I am still pals with on Facebook all talk all the time, and are planning on going down for the annual Mardi Gras shows during MG season.  I don't get this.  How can you still be this level of obsessed/in love with a band that kind of sucks now?  Granted, the live shows are probably sitll good, but are they only playing the stuff from 10 years ago?  Did their live set list stop with the cd that came out in 2001 (that I didn't even like that much, save a few songs)?  Also, one of the members quit.  Well, he left.  The drummer is now the drummer for mega-hugely popular group Sugarland.  Granted, he wasn't the original drummer but he was with the band more than 10 years, and he was part of the awesome dynamic of the band's songs, and especially live shows.  Anyway, I thought it was kinda shitty at they didn't stop when he left.  

Granted, my level of obsession with the band never reached the heights that some of these people did.  I never went to New Orleans for a "hometown" show (thought about it though).  I never would have broken up with somebody because they didntlove the band the way that I did.

Maybe part of it is that I've grown up a lot, gotten adult responsibilities, and stuff.  Maybe I just don't relate to the music anymore.  I don't know.  

I was telling Jason the other day that I really feel much more of an emotional connection to the Avett Brothers lately.  Like more than I ever felt to Better than Ezra.  WIll I feel the same way about the Avetts in 10 years as I do about BTE now?  Maybe.

At the same time, who the hell am I to say any of this?  Obviously aTONS of their other big crazy fans stuck with them, unlike me, who just stopped caring.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on November 20, 2011, 09:58:42 AM
They have a right to be obsessed if they want, I guess. I don't see a problem as long as they're not trying to guilt you into coming along. I mean, they can ask if you want to join in, but if they were to question your friendship because maybe you just ain't into the band as much any more, then maybe you've found that filter that separates the true friends from the ones who no longer count. It sounds like a Grateful Dead/Phish kinda dynamic, where the traveling and camaraderie are more important than the music. And when it comes to music, it looks like you'd rather spend your time exploring new while the old BTE board people are content stretching their past as long as possible.
It happens. As we've seen with the demise of woxy, the music masses seem to prefer familiarity, and hanging on to old or familiar music is what gets ratings in radio these days. It just so happens that your BTE buddies are a microcosm of the music audience as a whole. At one time they were all into the new/alternative thing, and they found a groove they like. And stuck with it.
As for the Avetts, yeah, that's gonna happen there, too. You seem like the type who will always be seeking/hearing new stuff, so maybe you'll move on there some day as well. Then again, maybe you'll hit it off with the Avett fan crowd and stick with them like the BTE crowd is doing now. Who knows?
It sounds like maybe you want a group of friends to stick with you and explore the new, I don't know. It sounds like there are a few close friends in the BTE group you'd like to bring along in your new music pursuits.
Therein lies the rub for us new music fans. All my long-time friends are stuck with the classic rock era. I even see it with a few of the newish friends I made on the woxy boards who can be stuck in the 80s or 90s some times. It's just a fact of life that when people get older and raise families/settle down, the familiar in music becomes a connection to good memories, and when they hang out it's mostly for old friendships and not necessarily the music first any more, I guess.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on November 20, 2011, 10:23:07 AM
I think Friz nailed it when he said its more about the comeraderie than the music.

The problem as I see it is that bands like BTE - and many MANY others - take this fandom as a sign they should still be releasing 'product' for the populace to buy, not accepting that its now just a very VERY hardcore number of fans who will buy each release - and that's an ever decreasing circle.

I had this kind of discussion with a friend of mine who acted as tour manager/merchandise support for a well-known 70's singer/songwriter for almost 20 years. This artist believed that people still wanted his new music because... well, at gigs he only ever witnessed VERY enthusiastic fans surrounding him and bigging him up and asking the question when he was going to do something new. Overlooking the fact that these fans were AT the show to see him play his old hit(s) and the majority of his one massive album, not new crap.

I had the same feeling when I went and saw The Zombies in England back in May. I LOVED hearing them play stuff from their early years - especially cuts off the Odessey & Oracle album - as well as sang along to Blunstone and Argent's solo hits - but I tuned completely OUT when they did a long-winded segment of the set dedicated to their upcoming new album. Couldn't. give. a shit. Fans at this kind of show are hardly likely to "boooooo" these performances, ergo the act believes people want them.

I say continue to enjoy - when you can - the material that made you fall in love with BTE in the first place and continue to follow the fan boards for nothing else than mild entertainment.

I am much the same about The Simpsons. For years I was obsessed. Collecting things, chasing stuff on eBay, buying the t-shirts, etc etc etc. People may not even know that MK & I had a vaguely "Simpsons-themed" wedding back in 1998?! Now, I couldn't give a shit about it. It's become desperately unfunny and I don't even watch new episodes. I still quote lines and I'll still watch a few of the older classic episodes ("Monorail") if I see them on re-runs but the show is now no more than just a slice of my past that feels (like my involvement in the music business for as long as I was) a couple of lifetimes ago.

I think most people have what can be described as 'past obsessions' if they think hard enough about it? Good discussion point J!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 21, 2011, 09:10:50 AM
At least with BTE they didn't breakup for several years and then reunite just to tour and THEN record more albums.  (I'm looking at YOU Toad the Wet Sprocket)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on November 23, 2011, 09:32:19 PM
Where is the best albums of 2011 thread?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: twentyshots on November 23, 2011, 10:30:04 PM
Where is the best albums of 2011 thread?
good question.


somewhat related: i'm trying to see the appeal of childish gambino.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jen on November 24, 2011, 09:35:05 AM
somewhat related: i'm trying to see the appeal of childish gambino.

I haven't heard it yet but based on what I have read other people say, I am not sure if I am missing out on anything. Perhaps it should have been a Troy and Abed collaboration along the lines of Weird Al or Dr Demento instead. ;)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: c-lando on December 01, 2011, 09:27:05 AM
From an email I received this morning from a friend:

"I just got an email from Viacom saying that if I do something to support World Aids Day I get a free download from The Killers.  Is that the most appropriately named band they could find for this event?  Really?"
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on December 01, 2011, 06:31:01 PM
Between his work writing, playing, producing in the Birthday Party, Bad Seeds and a quality solo career to say nothing of his with PJ Harvey, it's high time Mick Harvey gets some damned recognition.  9.85 out of 10 people would walk past him on the street and only think "Why was that guy glowering at me?" not "Holy crapple, that's fucking Mick Harvey.  He looks pissed off."  

Please, you need to love the guy.  You need to.  Help me make the man smile (https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=1138&bih=544&q=mich+harvey&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=68l3490l0l3959l20l16l2l0l0l2l443l3778l0.9.4.2.1l17l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.,cf.osb&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=2yTYTqyeEYbY0QG_ntzrDQ).
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on December 01, 2011, 07:06:13 PM
Between his work writing, playing, producing in the Birthday Party, Bad Seeds and a quality solo career to say nothing of his with PJ Harvey, it's high time Mick Harvey gets some damned recognition.  9.85 out of 10 people would walk past him on the street and only think "Why was that guy glowering at me?" not "Holy crapple, that's fucking Mick Harvey.  He looks pissed off." 

Please, you need to love the guy.  You need to.  Help me make the man smile (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9neidgHjMo).

I've posted elsewhere that a mate of mine and I often imagine then compile fantasy football XI's. We've also done the same, featuring musicians. In our "Fucking cool musicians XI", Mick is our Sweeper, mopping up any loose balls that Kid Congo Powers and Tav Falco fail to deal with. Jah Wobble is our Goalie.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on December 01, 2011, 08:27:01 PM
I almost see him as the manager scowling at his team's piss poor performance.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: MissKitty on December 01, 2011, 08:57:03 PM
From an email I received this morning from a friend:

"I just got an email from Viacom saying that if I do something to support World Aids Day I get a free download from The Killers.  Is that the most appropriately named band they could find for this event?  Really?"
This really made me laugh.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Dan on December 01, 2011, 09:01:00 PM
From an email I received this morning from a friend:

"I just got an email from Viacom saying that if I do something to support World Aids Day I get a free download from The Killers.  Is that the most appropriately named band they could find for this event?  Really?"

The Killers can headline the World Aids Day Festival.

The Kills can be an opener.
Who else? Death Cab For Cutie? The Dismemberment Plan?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on December 01, 2011, 09:26:39 PM
There has to be a up and coming punk band band called The Rock Hudsons somewhere?

*ducks*

too soon?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Fourthisto on December 02, 2011, 10:36:35 AM
Sweet Swedish Jesus, the new Black Keys album is an impossibly boring, stale wasteland. What happened to you two guys? You used to be cool, men. You've changed.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Foofur on December 02, 2011, 11:11:52 AM
 ::)  I happen to LOVE what I have heard from The Black Keys.  It is an evolution of their sound.  Don't get me wrong, as I love the rawness of Thickfreakness and the early stuff.  Now there are driving guitars and pounding beats but with polish.  It's not a bad thing.  Just different.  I look forward to giving this a proper listen (hopefully some certain store will make this available early and that I may be able to find someway to head towards Cincy this weekend).

Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Fourthisto on December 02, 2011, 11:50:57 AM
If you dig it, fine.

But they've become a caricature of themselves.

I have no problem with bands evolving, but this is not evolution. I did not refer to anything about it being too polished, but now that you bring it up - no matter how you polish it, a turd will stink. I think there's only two songs on here worth ever listening to again.

There's an ancient Chinese proverb that goes 'A dinosaur trying to get into a flying car goes nowhere.' That pretty much sums up how I feel about "El Camino".
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Foofur on December 02, 2011, 12:21:46 PM
How can you quote Chinese proverbs if you're from the Ivory Coast?  :o   Something is amiss here.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: cyclone on December 02, 2011, 12:44:22 PM
I haven't or never will hear that new Black Keys album but I assume it's the same "evolution" as Kings of Leon.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jen on December 02, 2011, 12:59:53 PM
::)  I happen to LOVE what I have heard from The Black Keys.  It is an evolution of their sound.  Don't get me wrong, as I love the rawness of Thickfreakness and the early stuff.  Now there are driving guitars and pounding beats but with polish.  It's not a bad thing.  Just different.  I look forward to giving this a proper listen (hopefully some certain store will make this available early and that I may be able to find someway to head towards Cincy this weekend).



Me too. Hoping to make a Shake It run this weekend for some goodies (hope they have them) and maybe they'll have this in already. We'll see. If it stinks, oh well. But honestly, what I have heard has rocked harder than most of the albums I have listened to on my list this year. Sometimes you just need some good old fashioned American rock 'n roll. And putting BK in the same sentence as KoL is absolutely horrific.  :o
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Wolverine on December 02, 2011, 01:30:09 PM
::)  I happen to LOVE what I have heard from The Black Keys.  It is an evolution of their sound.  Don't get me wrong, as I love the rawness of Thickfreakness and the early stuff.  Now there are driving guitars and pounding beats but with polish.  It's not a bad thing.  Just different.  I look forward to giving this a proper listen (hopefully some certain store will make this available early and that I may be able to find someway to head towards Cincy this weekend).



Me too. Hoping to make a Shake It run this weekend for some goodies (hope they have them) and maybe they'll have this in already. We'll see. If it stinks, oh well. But honestly, what I have heard has rocked harder than most of the albums I have listened to on my list this year. Sometimes you just need some good old fashioned American rock 'n roll. And putting BK in the same sentence as KoL is absolutely horrific.  :o

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/Wolverine97X/smilies/hifive.gif)

I've heard one song from the new album and quite liked it. Here's hoping The Black Keys - El Camino sounds good next week.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: euro60 on December 02, 2011, 01:39:07 PM
If you dig it, fine.

But they've become a caricature of themselves.

I have no problem with bands evolving, but this is not evolution. I did not refer to anything about it being too polished, but now that you bring it up - no matter how you polish it, a turd will stink. I think there's only two songs on here worth ever listening to again.


I have not heard the new album yet. But it was clear that even with "Brothers", they have departed their early low-fi raw garage sounds. And last time I saw these guys in concert (at Riverbend, opening up for KoL), they played all but 2 songs of their set as a "regular" foursome band, with a drummer, bassist, and 2 guitarists. Point is, if anyone is still aching for those early days of the Black Keys, keep achin' as they'll never be like that again.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Fourthisto on December 02, 2011, 03:34:03 PM
Don't mind me, I'm just ahead of the bell curve. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon, and for the rest of your life, you'll agree with me. ;)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on December 02, 2011, 03:41:55 PM
If you dig it, fine.

But they've become a caricature of themselves.

I have no problem with bands evolving, but this is not evolution. I did not refer to anything about it being too polished, but now that you bring it up - no matter how you polish it, a turd will stink. I think there's only two songs on here worth ever listening to again.

There's an ancient Chinese proverb that goes 'A dinosaur trying to get into a flying car goes nowhere.' That pretty much sums up how I feel about "El Camino".

Strike me down with a juggernaut, but I agree with you old son. It's shit.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Fourthisto on December 02, 2011, 04:53:34 PM
After all these years - we finally agree on something? I feel like I've just been punk'd in the nards.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: euro60 on December 03, 2011, 12:10:30 AM
Completely unrelated to anything, Guns 'n Roses played (maybe is still playing?) at the US Bank Arena tonight. My office on 3rd street overlooks the area, and (as I was working late tonight), I was quite surprised there was no traffic build-up at about 7-7:30. (This is in contrast to last night's Transiberian show.) My first thought was: this show was cancelled. So I hopped over to the US Bank Arena's website, and I was quite surprised to read this show was starting at 9 pm. That's for the opening band!

Before I left the office at about 7:30, curiosity got the better of me and I checked out GnR's recent setlist, and I was quite surprised they apparently play a 2.5-3 hr show each night (about 30-35 songs), wow. So if the opening band started at 9, I'm guessing GnR came on stage at 10 or even later, and they're probably still playing.

Never saw them in concert, and have no desire to. Did anyone ever see them?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on December 03, 2011, 01:25:39 AM
El Camino is awesome.  LOVE the new direction.  That band deserves to be huge.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: virgil p colon on December 03, 2011, 11:09:21 AM
I am by far not the biggest Black Keys fan out there. I think they got pretty boring after Thickfreakness. That being said, I am really digging "Lonely Boy". Hopefully El Camino is as good as the single from it.

a_426RiwST8
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on December 03, 2011, 11:15:31 AM
After all these years - we finally agree on something? I feel like I've just been punk'd in the nards.

I hope your testicles start behaving themselves at the earliest possible juncture, my friend!






(If you post that fucking Bonehead picture, then I really will "punk" you in the "nards")
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: twentyshots on December 03, 2011, 12:39:34 PM
Completely unrelated to anything, Guns 'n Roses played (maybe is still playing?) at the US Bank Arena tonight. My office on 3rd street overlooks the area, and (as I was working late tonight), I was quite surprised there was no traffic build-up at about 7-7:30. (This is in contrast to last night's Transiberian show.) My first thought was: this show was cancelled. So I hopped over to the US Bank Arena's website, and I was quite surprised to read this show was starting at 9 pm. That's for the opening band!

Before I left the office at about 7:30, curiosity got the better of me and I checked out GnR's recent setlist, and I was quite surprised they apparently play a 2.5-3 hr show each night (about 30-35 songs), wow. So if the opening band started at 9, I'm guessing GnR came on stage at 10 or even later, and they're probably still playing.

Never saw them in concert, and have no desire to. Did anyone ever see them?
i know someone who went but i don't trust his taste in music.....

i think anyone who says that, given the opportuniy they wouldn't have seen GnR back in the day is crazy......like RIGHT on the heels of appetite for destruction??? that would have been a show......
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: MissKitty on December 03, 2011, 12:46:25 PM
I had free tix to see GnR when Soundgarden opened (I knew someone in Soundgarden's camp) and I didn't go - didn't even go to see Soundgarden, who I'd already seen several times from their UltraMega days onward. No desire EVER to see GnR. They're right up there with Journey for me.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: twentyshots on December 03, 2011, 12:51:22 PM
I had free tix to see GnR when Soundgarden opened (I knew someone in Soundgarden's camp) and I didn't go - didn't even go to see Soundgarden, who I'd already seen several times from their UltraMega days onward. No desire EVER to see GnR. They're right up there with Journey for me.
what year? both bands started to dip (GnR quicker than soundgarden) for me, but that's a show i'd have been tempted to see if it was early on.....
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: va-vacious on December 03, 2011, 01:29:08 PM
I may not live in a place that has lots of concerts, but we've got Drivin' and Cryin' coming in 2 weeks, for only $15! (And Keller Williams is doing a New Year's Eve show, but I think I"ll pass on that)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: cyclone on December 03, 2011, 02:43:30 PM
I was dragged to the Van Halen show at US Bank Arena a few years ago.  My best friend at the time, who's musical prowess at the time had been Sublime and Metallica, was going through a huge classic rock phase, and not the good kind, the "whatever plays on that WEBN sister channel that plays Gordon Lightfoot and 'Get The Led Out' programming blocks) kind.  You know, it was a phase I had also went through in high school, practically worshiping Jim Morrison, thinking Jimmy Page invented the guitar, "new music sucks", etc.  All of a sudden Van Halen is coming to town on I what I guess was some pseudo-reunion tour, I'm not really sure.  He had barely been to any concerts in his life and I didn't have the heart to say no.  I considered it a physiological experiment, going to see this arena rock show from an aging band that never even had a golden era that I enjoyed. We drive past the arena and there's WEBN people holding a "finally Van Halen returns to Cincinnati!" banner outside near the tour bus.  So we get there, and after browsing the $50 tour t-shirts we sit in our seats in the upper level at USBA, which isn't what I would call "nosebleeds" per se, as the place isn't really that huge for an arena.  Got to listen to the older guy sitting behind us talk about all of the dozens of times he saw Pink Floyd, The Who, etc. to the starry-eyed kid next to him.  In retrospect I should have turned around and really had some fun.  Anyway, Bob Marley's son opened the show doing this reggae thing while a backing band played Nickelback-esque nu-metal sounds to a half empty arena.  I'm thinking to myself, "couldn't this at least be at Riverbend where I could be on a spacious lawn instead of crammed next to some group of drunk couples here to hear Hot For Teacher?"   Anyway, eventually we get Van Halen and I have to imagine the place is sold out.  With extravagant lightshow and stage set-up, they run through a pretty lengthy set which is about 3/4 "hits" ... the Kinks cover, Jump, etc.  There are of course lengthy drum and guitar solos throughout the set that function as songs themselves.  Also, playing bass is Wolfgang Van Halen, son of Eddie, and God bless him, but is that a sight to see - here you've got these scrawny, shirtless 60 year olds rocking out all over the runway stage while this 17-year old kid who has to be pushing 200 lbs contently plays the background.  Eddie did his best to maintain an "edgy" image throughout the show with his innuendo banner.  The encore features big inflatable microphones and confetti falling over the crowd.

To sum it up, I survived a Van Halen show in the year of 2008.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzstein on December 03, 2011, 03:21:37 PM
I really hate Van Halen.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on December 03, 2011, 04:14:53 PM
I really hate Van Halen.
Damn. Too bad, 'cuz they had a run of five or six albums there from their debut on that I'd put alongside many other such runs by rock's heavyweights. Then they ruined the mystique by milking their legacy.
They may not have invented hair metal, but their sparse raw sound was to hard rock what punk was to overprocessed classic rock. It went back to basics and spawned lots of imitators.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: luisterpaul on December 03, 2011, 04:24:48 PM
Van Halen fall into that category of great-at-the-time music I'm just not interested in listening to anymore. Folks like Led Zeppelin, Metallica and Aerosmith are in the same group. I would include most of Pink Floyd's and The Rolling Stones' music in there, too. Probably I just overplayed it for myself.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: MissKitty on December 03, 2011, 04:35:25 PM
I had free tix to see GnR when Soundgarden opened (I knew someone in Soundgarden's camp) and I didn't go - didn't even go to see Soundgarden, who I'd already seen several times from their UltraMega days onward. No desire EVER to see GnR. They're right up there with Journey for me.
what year? both bands started to dip (GnR quicker than soundgarden) for me, but that's a show i'd have been tempted to see if it was early on.....
It was when GnR toured for Use Your Illusion, so probably 1992? Doesn't matter though, I wouldn't have walked out the door if they were playing in my back yard at the height of Appetite.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: MissKitty on December 03, 2011, 04:39:10 PM
Van Halen fall into that category of great-at-the-time music I'm just not interested in listening to anymore. Folks like Led Zeppelin, Metallica and Aerosmith are in the same group. I would include most of Pink Floyd's and The Rolling Stones' music in there, too. Probably I just overplayed it for myself.

I agree.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jen on December 03, 2011, 09:22:11 PM
I never liked GnR or Metallica or Van Halen. I might have gone to see Soundgarden during the (very) brief period I could tolerate grunge. While we are making shocking confessions, I never really understood why Nirvana was so great. Still don't.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on December 03, 2011, 09:24:11 PM
I never liked GnR or Metallica or Van Halen. I might have gone to see Soundgarden during the (very) brief period I could tolerate grunge. While we are making shocking confessions, I never really understood why Nirvana was so great. Still don't.
Agreed on Nirvana. I always thought they were a cheap Husker Du rip off. Far prefered Mudhoney and Tad.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: euro60 on December 03, 2011, 11:40:33 PM
I never liked GnR or Metallica or Van Halen. I might have gone to see Soundgarden during the (very) brief period I could tolerate grunge. While we are making shocking confessions, I never really understood why Nirvana was so great. Still don't.
Guess what: Nirvana was never that great. Really. Vastly overrated in my opinion.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on December 04, 2011, 06:27:39 AM
As an 'insider', I unfortunately remain cynical about the whole Nirvana thing.

In the early 90s the record industry was desperate - and I mean REALLY desperate - to artificially create another 'punk like' music scene, and the grunge thing fell into their lap as if it was a gift from Johnny Rotten's very own spittle.

They threw so much money at grunge - in terms of promotion, sucking up to the media (both corporate and indie, both mainstream and music) - that it almost couldn't fail. Nirvana certainly couldn't fail. Geffen was a fucking behomoth in label terms back in those days and they weren't going to let Kurt and his team go down without a fucking good fight.

Admittedly a good pop song, "Teen Spirit" became an anthem. It became an anthem because...erm, it was marketed as an anthem. Sold in as a latter day "Anarchy" so much money was put behind it there was no doubt it was going to be a success. When first offered to me as a single the deal from Geffen was "Buy 1, get 10 free". Yes, the desire of the record company to make this a hit was almost obscene. The industry didn't want a slow burn on any of this 'grunge stuff' - they wanted the impact 'now' and the profits from it even sooner. Greed was rampant.

I'm sorry if this upsets the sensibilities of anyone, but after Kurt topped himself - or was maybe knocked off by music's other untalented bitch? (Y'know, the one that always looks like she has been bobbing for apples in a deep-fat fryer) - Geffen went into OverDrive #2, and had the mentality of "we can't believe this gift we have just been given". You see, by that time, 1994, the scene was already very much history in the UK - the hipsters already having moved onto the joys of Britpop and Madchester - so his passing gave the label - and its parent corporate overlords - a second burst of unexpected but doubtless welcomed profits.

Does this make me personally dislike Nirvana? No, I believe there's a shitload of talent there and some great songwriting. I guess I admire it without wanting to listen to it. However, nobody should be so naive as to believe the buying public solely 'broke' Nirvana and made them the iconic band they became. Sadly, like a lot of other music in the 80's and 90's their success came as much - if not more - from marketing efforts than it did from anything else, talent included.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jen on December 04, 2011, 08:48:21 AM
Nirvana's success killed off off other bands that I actually liked sadly. Bands that, if they could have hung on, probably could have made it in 1994.

CR, your story reminds me of a report on NPR I heard about the whole process from start to finish of the latest Rhianna album. Dollars were mentioned and it was obscene. For some horrible talent to be back and promoted and perhaps not even making the money back was shocking to me. THIS is why the music biz is failing.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Wolverine on December 04, 2011, 12:15:25 PM
I considered it a physiological experiment, going to see this arena rock show from an aging band that never even had a golden era that I enjoyed.

Could you please explain this comment.  Are you saying that Van Halen never had a golden era or that you do not enjoy any of VH's music?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: euro60 on December 05, 2011, 05:31:32 PM
Completely unrelated to anything, Guns 'n Roses played (maybe is still playing?) at the US Bank Arena tonight. My office on 3rd street overlooks the area, and (as I was working late tonight), I was quite surprised there was no traffic build-up at about 7-7:30. (This is in contrast to last night's Transiberian show.) My first thought was: this show was cancelled. So I hopped over to the US Bank Arena's website, and I was quite surprised to read this show was starting at 9 pm. That's for the opening band!

Before I left the office at about 7:30, curiosity got the better of me and I checked out GnR's recent setlist, and I was quite surprised they apparently play a 2.5-3 hr show each night (about 30-35 songs), wow. So if the opening band started at 9, I'm guessing GnR came on stage at 10 or even later, and they're probably still playing.

Never saw them in concert, and have no desire to. Did anyone ever see them?

Curiosity got the better of me and after a bit of looking around, I found the following posted on the setlist.fm website regarding the Cincinnati show, where they played their standard 33 song set marathon apparently:

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It was about 10:30PM when the G-n-R started. The snow was winding down around 2AM. What a night. I took my pajamas with me. I just knew we were in for quite a show
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: cyclone on December 05, 2011, 06:08:44 PM
Could you please explain this comment.  Are you saying that Van Halen never had a golden era or that you do not enjoy any of VH's music?

The latter.  I was trying to explain the context in that I wouldn't even be thrilled about seeing most bands that I enjoyed once in their prime (hence the "golden era" comment) many many years later when the band members were in their 60s or so, let alone one who I never really enjoyed to begin with.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: frizgolf on December 05, 2011, 09:22:17 PM
It occurs to me that with Spotify's users creating lists with reckless abandon that I have plenty music to catch up on.
And I still have about 20 other sources to pull from. There ain't enough time in the day. And that's a good thing.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: twentyshots on December 06, 2011, 10:06:32 PM
can mayer hawthorne really be that good? everyone is up on his JOCK......
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: euro60 on December 06, 2011, 11:05:09 PM
can mayer hawthorne really be that good? everyone is up on his JOCK......
Knowing not a thing about him, I saw him at Coachella in 2010 and he was really entertaining. Haven't listened to any of his albums
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: MissKitty on December 07, 2011, 07:12:25 AM
For me, Mayer Hawthorne is hit or miss. There are a few of his songs that I think are brilliant ("The Walk," and "The News" being standouts on his latest) but others leave me cold. He seems to be aiming for the Motown sound; sometimes it works, other times it is laughable.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Jen on December 07, 2011, 08:18:00 AM
So Shivvy was discussing the Black Keys yesterday and their lack of presence on Spotify or other free listening services and how not being able to listen to an album before shelling out $20 probably meant that the purchase wouldn't happen. Which got me to thinking, why does the music industry make it so difficult to BUY music? For instance, I would like to buy (ie download) the new Brett Anderson album but Amazon.com does not have it but the UK store does. However, because I don't have a UK IP, I cannot. Now, I could download this at home using a proxy (I am guessing) but still...why make a customer jump through hoops to BUY music? As far as I can tell, the guys who make the decisions know jack all about nothing regarding marketing, money or the most shocking of all, good music. I am sure some would argue the marketing aspect but making the decision to give people an opportunity to stream something for free in hopes that they like it enough to buy should be considered a good marketing decision. But no...their philosophy must be pay for it or pirate it I guess.  ???
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on December 07, 2011, 09:07:32 AM
... why does the music industry make it so difficult to BUY music?
Because it is still run by ancient clueless dickwads - like it's been run for 30+ years now - who seriously don't a flying FUCK about music, only about the 'potential profits' at the end. You would not believe some of the shit I went through as a retailer back in the day. e.g. Labels deleting singles at the very height of their popularity because they thought it then sold albums. (It's like a supermarket stopping selling butter because they'd sell more cakes) Their beady squinty too-much-mastabatory eyes are always on the short-term prize... profits </rant>
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: foolsgold on December 08, 2011, 12:31:32 PM
I sent the following to a friend in an email over the summer: 

Do you think Beady Eye is legit band (be nice) or is it some rock Svengali's carefully and deliberately plan to again make Oasis "the biggest band in the world?"  Wait, hear me out.  Oasis, by most people's standards, best two albums were the first two (put down that ashtray.)  Then, they became cocaine cliched and, by most people's standards, they  remainder of their catalog was pretty bad.  Band members came and went and they became more known for which tooth did Liam lose to which bouncer than their music?  Even with some hired guns from dearly departed bands Ride and that band that did Sleep Freak.  No, not Powder, the other one. 

So, rock Svengali swoops in, orchestrates a "break-up" knowing how easy it is to trick the idiot British press in to buying it because "hey, those brothers sorta hate each other."  Then, ensconced to Montenegro where, with the help of Paul Weller, a recycling bin and a genetically living recreation of Tony McCarroll's hair that cracks wise in a deep Texas drawl.

Liam and the hired guns (now including that guy who has played with every British band of the last 30 years.  No, not Ringo's kid, the other one.) release a faithful recreation of Def. Maybe.  To people who still care about first album Oasis, it is lauded as the best thing they've done in what, 15 years?

The idiot press slathers.  "Noel was the problem," they'd marvel.  "You were the genius all along, Liam," they'd say licking his asshole stank off their lips.  "Thank you sir, may I have another?  Liam: 1 Noel: 0 halftime," they'd write trying to relate the common man. 

Noel, meanwhile, with the same help as Liam, except sub out Paul Weller and add Roger Waters, writes a faithful recreation of Morning Glory.  To the people who still care about second album Oasis, it is flawless.   The idiot press lose their collective minds. "Liam who?" they conspiratorially giggle.  "I shan't look in your eyes for a mortal shan't look in the face of god," they'd say as they pack their bags on their way to a record label sponsored hookers and blow party in the Seychelles.  "Noel's Sgt. Pepper's," they'd write trying to relate to music fans.

Then, at a Beady Eye gig in, oh, I don't know, let's say Manchester, Noel walks on stage.  After a moment of rehearsed indecision, Liam playfully punches Noel in the shoulder and they tearfully embrace.  Embrace, as per usual, are tearful.  They'd play "Wonderwall" and close with "Live Forever."  The fans eat it up.  The idiot press sell record numbers of mags and makes a fortune that week.  Naturally, they clamor for a reunion.

They reunite with the hired guns.  They make a shit ton of money.  Believing themselves invincible, they fire Roger and Paul and send the hair off on a snipe hunt.  They hang on to the recycling bin.  They record a album of all new stuff.  The fans hate it.  The idiot press does as well.  "Goawaysis," they'd huffily write still smarting from not being invited back to the Seychelles.  "Run away," they'd write trying to relate to the nerds who still looked down on them.

The brothers and the hired guns go out on tour drawing mostly upon the first two albums and a song or two off of subsequent releases. Songs that weren't bad and only really good enough to fool the guys who heard "Lyla" and thought maybe the rest of it sounds maybe a bit like that.  They'd make a shit ton of money.  Like a shit ton.

Then, you'd nod your head and take a deep drink from your pint.  And as you wipe away the foam on your lip, you get a shit eating grin and say "Boyles, you silly cunt" and walk outside to light a cigarette. 


So far, everything is playing right on schedule.  Noel's album came in at #18 on Q's top 50 of 2011 list while the same Beadyeye album they gave 5 stars just a few scant months ago somehow didn't make it.  The reviews of Noel's have pretty much said that Beadyeye is a rank pretender.  I'm predicting a reunion no later than 2013.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on December 08, 2011, 11:32:08 PM
Noel could sell out theaters in the US today.  Beady Eye cannot.

I think they'll play again.  2013 won't be the year, though.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: twentyshots on December 14, 2011, 08:34:35 AM
does anyone remember the band wire train?
i'd like to hear some of that stuff again but they aren't on any music sites......

d16UHC5MSeM
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: euro60 on December 14, 2011, 03:23:36 PM
Noel could sell out theaters in the US today.  Beady Eye cannot.


And what is your point?

As I mentioned in the Concerts thread, I saw Beady Eye last Thursday at the 9:30 Club in DC, and it was a fantastic show. Personally I don't care if Beady Eye can become huge in the US, the UK or anywhere else. In fact, I'd much rather they stay small, not because I'm a music snob (which I am of course) but because you get an arena-sized show up-and-close in a small venue such at the 9:30. It made for one of the most memorable and enjoyable shows of the year for me. And I think the Beady Eye album was/is fastastic (in fact my No. 1 album for 2011, if you can believe that). If it sounds like I'm gushing over Beady Eye, I am in fact. Miles and miles better than Noel's outfit and album.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: MissKitty on December 14, 2011, 06:25:55 PM
does anyone remember the band wire train?
i'd like to hear some of that stuff again but they aren't on any music sites......
I remember Wire Train; they were one of the staples of my college radio years. I'm not sure why they aren't available on any music sites, but it likely has something to do with their label. I'm a little foggy on the details after so long, but it seems that they did well when they were on 415, where they got distribution via Columbia, but when MCA got hold of them it all went to hell in a handbasket because MCA had not a clue how to market them. God only knows what happened with the band's contract.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: twentyshots on December 14, 2011, 09:18:36 PM
does anyone remember the band wire train?
i'd like to hear some of that stuff again but they aren't on any music sites......
I remember Wire Train; they were one of the staples of my college radio years. I'm not sure why they aren't available on any music sites, but it likely has something to do with their label. I'm a little foggy on the details after so long, but it seems that they did well when they were on 415, where they got distribution via Columbia, but when MCA got hold of them it all went to hell in a handbasket because MCA had not a clue how to market them. God only knows what happened with the band's contract.
i found some stuff on grooveshark after i posted that. what interested me was how benign they started out, your basic new wave sound of the '80's, but towards the end they were getting grittier with no soul no strain in 1992....it was looking like a bit of a different direction then, they just threw in the towel. well, until 2009. i guess they put a reunion album out then but i never heard it......
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Nate on December 14, 2011, 11:02:06 PM
Noel could sell out theaters in the US today.  Beady Eye cannot.


And what is your point?

As I mentioned in the Concerts thread, I saw Beady Eye last Thursday at the 9:30 Club in DC, and it was a fantastic show. Personally I don't care if Beady Eye can become huge in the US, the UK or anywhere else. In fact, I'd much rather they stay small, not because I'm a music snob (which I am of course) but because you get an arena-sized show up-and-close in a small venue such at the 9:30. It made for one of the most memorable and enjoyable shows of the year for me. And I think the Beady Eye album was/is fastastic (in fact my No. 1 album for 2011, if you can believe that). If it sounds like I'm gushing over Beady Eye, I am in fact. Miles and miles better than Noel's outfit and album.

My point?  Beady Eye is a novelty, whom will never break through to the mainstream.  They're a curiosity at best.  Noel's the one who writes the song, and well, his album is much stronger than Beady Eye's.  He'll be playing arenas next year, which will remind everyone who the real talent was in Oasis.  Beady Eye=Velvet Revolver.  Let's hear a bunch of songs from the guys who didn't write anything in their more famous band(s)!  :o 
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: MissKitty on December 15, 2011, 07:50:31 AM
i found some stuff on grooveshark after i posted that. what interested me was how benign they started out, your basic new wave sound of the '80's, but towards the end they were getting grittier with no soul no strain in 1992....it was looking like a bit of a different direction then, they just threw in the towel. well, until 2009. i guess they put a reunion album out then but i never heard it......
I didn't hear it either, but I remember reading something about it somewhere (probably Big TakeOver) that the release in 2009 was their long lost MCA album that the label wouldn't release because it was "too weird" (more like it was too far beyond what the small minds at MCA could deal with). It had been shelved since the mid-1990's until the band released it on their own.

There were so many bands back then that fell through the cracks due to label mismanagement. Winter Hours was another. I LOVED their EPs and first full-length, "Leaving Time," which were all released on Link Records, but then Capitol snapped them up and made a pigs ear out of their major label debut. The producer they used had the misconception that they were a country band or something. The album (self titled) doesn't have the same feel as their others, and you can tell that the bad was rushed to get something out. It feels incomplete, or wrong somehow. It flopped pretty bad, and the band melted away.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: twentyshots on December 15, 2011, 08:26:03 AM

I didn't hear it either, but I remember reading something about it somewhere (probably Big TakeOver) that the release in 2009 was their long lost MCA album that the label wouldn't release because it was "too weird" (more like it was too far beyond what the small minds at MCA could deal with). It had been shelved since the mid-1990's until the band released it on their own.
well now i want to hear that!

There were so many bands back then that fell through the cracks due to label mismanagement. Winter Hours was another. I LOVED their EPs and first full-length, "Leaving Time," which were all released on Link Records, but then Capitol snapped them up and made a pigs ear out of their major label debut. The producer they used had the misconception that they were a country band or something. The album (self titled) doesn't have the same feel as their others, and you can tell that the bad was rushed to get something out. It feels incomplete, or wrong somehow. It flopped pretty bad, and the band melted away.
i'm not recalling winter hours at the moment, but it's aggravating to think how many good bands' vision gets distorted by handlers and ends up having such a weaker impact. it's all a gamble i guess.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on December 15, 2011, 03:51:24 PM
Unutterably shit day at work? Not got time to stop for a piss let alone  find the time to get organised for Christmas? Train late again?

Wash away the stress and the gloom following this one easy step! Once you finally get home, play anything off the second 13th Floor Elevators album deafeningly loud on headphones and drink an ice cold beer in 8 seconds. Viola.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Fourthisto on December 15, 2011, 04:46:20 PM
Easter Everywhere?

Just when I thought you couldn't possibly be any dumber, you go and do something like this... and TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF!!!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on December 16, 2011, 04:36:36 PM
Easter Everywhere?

Just when I thought you couldn't possibly be any dumber, you go and do something like this... and TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF!!!

For a moment there, I could have sworn you called me dumb! Oh right, you did. What a fart hammer.



(Good record though, isn't it? I love that album :))
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on December 17, 2011, 05:35:50 PM
I've officially become my Father. I'm listening to The Four Horsemen by Aphrodite's Child right now. And I'm really enjoying it.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Cockney Rebel on December 17, 2011, 06:45:47 PM
I've officially become my Father. I'm listening to The Four Horsemen by Aphrodite's Child right now. And I'm really enjoying it.
666 = A ProgRock Classic

nVbaDlGCeDg
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on December 17, 2011, 07:10:08 PM
Hehe, I listened to that one as well! The drumming on 666 is absolutely fucking brilliant :)
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: euro60 on December 18, 2011, 01:53:38 AM
I've officially become my Father. I'm listening to The Four Horsemen by Aphrodite's Child right now. And I'm really enjoying it.
what a great group that was, back in the day. Guilty pleasure all the way.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: twentyshots on December 22, 2011, 08:50:33 AM
i went to a UC basketball game last night and at halftime they had some junior dance squad do a....whatever it was.....and the soundtrack was a medley of a bunch of shitty pop songs SPED UP, so they could fit more in. like, almost chipmunk versions. it was quite horrible.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Fourthisto on December 22, 2011, 09:48:19 AM
If I leave before you
And I walk out alone
Keep your hands to yourself
When you follow me home



... the Antlers freaking kill me.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on December 22, 2011, 11:12:17 PM
It's a sad day. I went to find "Revolution" by Spacemen 3 in my vinyl today, and it's absent, presumed nicked. I thought I still owned a copy, alas no. That's another fucking trip to Amazon in the new year. Bollocks.

Lend us twenty quid?
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Fourthisto on December 23, 2011, 01:59:03 AM
They sell vinyl in the Amazon? And you can get there for only 20 pounds? Damn, man. I'm jealous of your safari for an old classic. Good luck!
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Rafe on December 23, 2011, 05:10:09 PM
Yes mate, I'll aim to go in February or March. It's normally a fairly safe time of year to hit the jungle, as Sting's "Save the Rainforest" season begins mid-April. Want to avoid the tedious tantric cunt at all costs.
Title: Re: Random music thoughts
Post by: Buzzste