Randomville

Randomville! => The Locker Room => Topic started by: c-lando on September 06, 2008, 05:58:05 PM

Title: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on September 06, 2008, 05:58:05 PM
From the BMW Golf Championship:
"We've got balls going in from everywhere."
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: trixi on September 06, 2008, 08:58:49 PM
From the Reds FSN announcers:
"He came with a big stick tonight"
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: scuba on September 06, 2008, 11:25:57 PM
Classic Harry Carey quote...the camera scans the bleachers and comes across an amorous couple in the middle of a public display of affection, "Ah, look at that, young love, he's kissing her on the strikes and she's kissing him on the balls!"
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on September 14, 2008, 08:19:51 AM
Baseball was an English invention (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/surrey/7610016.stm)

I guess that just leaves you guys with American Football?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on September 14, 2008, 10:49:59 AM
Hah. Umm, or this little game called basketball.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on September 15, 2008, 04:27:19 PM
The ups and downs of a footy fan. Hannover 96 absolutely tonked Borussia Moenchengladbach 5-1 yesterday. First win of the season, and the lads said that we looked top class for a change (that probably means we looked ok, in reality). Elation. Fast forward to right now, where we find Spurs being dragged over the coals by Aston fucking Villa. At Home, to boot. Nice one, Tottenham.

 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on September 15, 2008, 04:43:29 PM
Hah. Umm, or this little game called basketball.

Wasn't that invented by a Canadian?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: kcneon on September 15, 2008, 05:13:08 PM
Naismith was Canadian, but invented the sport in the US & then coached at KANSAS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Naismith
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: The Hegemo on September 16, 2008, 10:00:52 AM
Former CBJ color announcer Steve Konroyd: "The Western Conference is one of the toughest conferences in the whole NHL."  :laugh:
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on September 16, 2008, 10:41:31 AM
Fast forward to right now, where we find Spurs being dragged over the coals by Aston awesdome Villa.

Fix'd...
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on September 18, 2008, 05:17:44 PM
(http://theoriginalwinger.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/man-usa.jpg)
(thanks, c-lando!)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on September 19, 2008, 01:05:19 PM
How long is it before Jerry Jones calls up Usain Bolt and asks him if he wants to be a wide receiver?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: cuddlyevil on September 21, 2008, 05:56:47 PM
Was today's game and example of what the Patriots will look like for the rest of the season? If so, I kinda like it.  :angel:
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: cuddlyevil on September 29, 2008, 11:07:53 AM
So, wkrc has a poll up in their sports section. The question is "who is to blame for the Bengal's current record?", the options are 1) Players, 2) Coaches, 3) Management.

They really should've included: 4) All of the above.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Nate on October 01, 2008, 06:33:28 PM
The Twins should be in the playoffs right now.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: va-vacious on October 01, 2008, 06:45:27 PM
I'm supposed to be going to the Tennessee-Alabama game at the end of the month.  I'm beginning to think I should pass, since Tennessee sucks this year, and I really don't want to travel 1000 miles (roundtrip) to see them lose.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: kcneon on October 10, 2008, 11:39:46 AM
It's probably not the best sign when you seem to be spending just as much time rooting for whoever your rival team is playing as you are your own team.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on October 13, 2008, 11:22:28 AM
No way! That's a great sign! You're a true fan. :)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on October 27, 2008, 09:20:53 AM
Holy cow, the Rockies just traded Matt Holliday to the Reds for Ryan Freel and Homer Bailey.

Holy cow, it's amazing the fantasies I concoct to make myself feel better in the wake of a lousy local team sports weekend.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on November 03, 2008, 09:07:06 AM
Is CBS that desperate for programming that they'd broadcast the championship game of Slamball? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv60QeOpqNY)

Is the world that desperate for distraction that Slamball even exists, let alone has a championship game?

Easily the stupidest sporting event I've ever seen on free TV and that's saying a lot considering I watched the OSU/USC game.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on November 03, 2008, 01:23:30 PM
Bye, Phil. I guess we know who really had the winning ways.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: cuddlyevil on November 06, 2008, 11:47:32 AM
Has Al Davis lost his mind? Or are the Raiders totally committed to sucking this season? (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-raiders-hall&prov=ap&type=lgns)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: va-vacious on November 06, 2008, 09:20:10 PM
I already miss Fulmer.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on November 10, 2008, 07:26:52 AM
Columbus Crew in the MLS Conference Finals.  I think they may have made it to the finals once, but have never won an MLS Cup.

Let's go, Crew!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on November 14, 2008, 04:09:34 PM
You know, Eddie Gaven scored to put the Crew in the finals.  You want to know what else is weird about Eddie Gaven?  For some reason he was bizarrely good in Football Manager 2007 and 2008.  I always tried to get him but I could never afford him as Southampton.

I wonder if Eddie Gaven is really good in Football Manager 2009?  I wonder if Football Manager 2009 is really good?  I wonder if it would be a really good idea to buy Football Manager 2009?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on November 15, 2008, 09:48:35 PM
This weekend is a crappy weekend for football.

I mean, not really - there are plenty of good games out there. It's just that this season has been so much fun in the past few weekends with H-U-G-E matchups nearly every weekend. And with all that tremendous viewing has come this level of expectation, and this weekend it's a gigantic letdown. The best (only!) matchup was #4 Florida vs #25 South Carolina... and that game was as large a blowout as they come. In the NFL the Packers-Bears game tomorrow should be decent, but after that the best one I can come up with is Giants-Ravens. After that they are all meh.

This isn't to say that I haven't thoroughly enjoyed some games... it's just that they aren't all that awesomely spectacular like last weekend or next weekend.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: whigsgeek on November 15, 2008, 10:18:19 PM
Quote from: Dan
This weekend is a crappy weekend for football.

Agreed, brother. It's a yawner.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on November 17, 2008, 06:43:30 AM
You know, Eddie Gaven scored to put the Crew in the finals.  You want to know what else is weird about Eddie Gaven?  For some reason he was bizarrely good in Football Manager 2007 and 2008.  I always tried to get him but I could never afford him as Southampton.

I wonder if Eddie Gaven is really good in Football Manager 2009?  I wonder if Football Manager 2009 is really good?  I wonder if it would be a really good idea to buy Football Manager 2009?

Eddie Gaven is a decent player, but when he was young he was talked about like he was the second coming in midfield... when truth is I think he is just a solid player with marginal national team type skills.  The type that will get him some caps, but will never get him on the field as a contributor in a World Cup or anything.  I don't know, he's only 22, maybe he will improve and eventually become a monster.

Football Manager, on the other hand, you gots to buy that shit up.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: whigsgeek on December 22, 2008, 02:10:35 PM
A huge CONGRATS to the Penn State women's volleyball team on their second consecutive NCAA championship!!! :)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Nate on December 22, 2008, 06:28:18 PM
Every time I feel like vomiting on my own vomit over Minnesota professional sports, I think of Seattle sports fans and swallow.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on January 02, 2009, 10:51:18 PM
Professional fucking darts fans are the craziest people in the world. They have their own theme-song and dance, man!!! It's so dumb that I get blissfully happy just watching the crowd shots. Drinking. Arms flying alternately in the air. Head's bobbing. PHIL THE POWER TAYLOR! It's really incredible.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: whigsgeek on January 03, 2009, 09:57:33 PM
Did you see pro darts live or on TV? If on TV, what channel? Sounds like it would be funny to watch.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on January 09, 2009, 11:52:17 AM
Did you see pro darts live or on TV? If on TV, what channel? Sounds like it would be funny to watch.
I've only seen the news re-caps on Sky Sports on FSC. But, that's JUST the right amount of professional darts for me. :)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on January 09, 2009, 11:52:33 AM
Smoltz.

Fucker.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: scuba on January 22, 2009, 04:23:18 PM
Beaten, Bloodied T.J. Houshmandzadeh Hoping Obama Closes Gitmo Soon (http://www.theonion.com/content/news/beaten_bloodied_t_j_houshmandzadeh)

The title alone made me laugh out loud...

"...interrogators informing him that his team had beaten the Kansas City Chiefs 16-6 and subjecting Houshmandzadeh to a "celebratory" Gatoradeboarding."
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: whigsgeek on January 24, 2009, 04:12:06 PM
Had a dream on Thursday night that I was in New Orleans, drinking with Peyton and Eli Manning. Peyton and I got on like Donkey Kong. Eli passed out early. We mocked him.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kenneth Toilethole on January 27, 2009, 12:51:22 PM
As I was watching the NHL All-Star game I realized that I have competed against 2 professional athletes who went on to be all stars in their sport. Chris Webber and Dan Boyle. I did poorly against both.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on February 03, 2009, 12:46:34 PM
If you go to GOOGLE and type in "Bosingwa", it automatically suggests/assumes the next word you will type in your search is "unibrow".

Awesdome.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on February 18, 2009, 03:55:12 PM
Don't look now, but Peterborough United are in position to make the League One Playoffs to play for the right to move up to the League Championship next year.  I don't know if they've ever been higher than League One/2nd division.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on February 19, 2009, 11:08:55 AM
Don't look now, but Peterborough United are in position to make the League One Playoffs to play for the right to move up to the League Championship next year.  I don't know if they've ever been higher than League One/2nd division.

Looks like Southampton will not be playing them next season then!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on February 19, 2009, 11:10:54 AM
Looks like Southampton will not be playing them next season then!

The Saints aren't finished yet.  They just need a good few-game stretch.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on February 19, 2009, 12:07:42 PM
The Saints aren't finished yet.  They just need a hitman to take out Rupert Lowe, a manager who knows what the fuck he's doing, a defence that doesn't leak worse than a paper-bag dam, a couple of strikers who both know how to and are actually eager to score goals, a winning "why yes we CAN do it Dorothy" attitude and a good few-game stretch.

Fix'd for me
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Bronzetree on February 19, 2009, 12:13:11 PM
Griffey Jr. officially to the Mariners.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: scuba on February 19, 2009, 02:46:38 PM
Have you ever been as good at anything in your entire life as this kid is with a soccer ball at 6 years old?

Six-year-old spotted by football talent scouts is new Zinedine Zidane (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/4686579/Six-year-old-spotted-by-football-talent-scouts-is-new-Zinedine-Zidane.html)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Bronzetree on February 19, 2009, 08:24:58 PM
Sweet Jeeebus.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on February 20, 2009, 09:47:34 AM
That kid's skillz may change as his centre of gravity changes when his body grows. I saw lots of ball skills but no passing or shooting? However, I'm betting he is a quick learner.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on February 20, 2009, 10:14:43 AM
I saw lots of ball skills but no passing or shooting? However, I'm betting he is a quick learner.

I was wondering that too, where are the wonder-goals.  And he gets into the U-16's, one step on his ankle or an elbow to the back of his head, and all that juking means nothing.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on February 20, 2009, 11:10:24 AM
At SFC "wonder goals" come in the form of "I wonder when we'll score one?"
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on February 20, 2009, 04:03:40 PM
You have to wonder about the kid's ceiling, too. 

I mean, I kinda feel like he's taken pure dribbling/techincal ball skill just as far as it's possible to take them.  If not due to raw physical constraints of the human body, at least mentally.  Because no one could possibly coach him if he already knows all the moves.

What difference does it make if he reaches that point at 6 instead of 16.  All that matters is how good you are when you are 18 and up.




Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: scuba on February 23, 2009, 05:01:01 PM
This never fails to make me laugh...I give you Baby Mangino...

(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/deadspin/2008/11/20081105babymangino.jpg)

Your Halloween Costume Was Not This Good (http://deadspin.com/5077174/your-halloween-costume-was-not-this-good)

A brief history of Baby Mangino (http://deadspin.com/tag/baby-mangino/)

Baby Mangino Update (http://www2.kusports.com/news/2009/feb/22/meet-baby-mangino-wichita-infant-now-famous-ku-fan/)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on February 25, 2009, 01:24:44 PM
Sing it with me:

The Reds are on the radio!!!

Man, baseball sounds GREAT!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on March 01, 2009, 04:09:42 PM
I love that Tennessee provided Florida with its first home loss of the year. That's five in a row over the Gators!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kwyjibo on March 01, 2009, 11:00:00 PM
I was very annoyed to be in Tampa this week and have no time for a Spring Training game.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Bronzetree on March 02, 2009, 02:42:33 AM
Who's in Tampa? Reds are in Sarasota, about an hour away (which might explain why you didn't have time...)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kwyjibo on March 02, 2009, 08:34:33 AM
The Pirates and Yankees both have their spring training facilities in the Tampa Bay area, unless I'm mistaken.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Bronzetree on March 02, 2009, 08:51:21 AM
Ah, gotcha.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on April 04, 2009, 08:09:39 PM
The Kickers supporters just did a R-V-A cheer. I immediately thought of W.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Jonathan on April 05, 2009, 03:18:57 AM
Wasn't the cheer *about* him? I just assume it would be, given his legendary managerial prowess and general all-around awesomeness.

The people of Richmond should be singing his praises at every possible opportunity, if they know what's good for them.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on April 05, 2009, 07:53:57 AM
Wasn't the cheer *about* him? I just assume it would be, given his legendary managerial prowess and general all-around awesomeness.

The people of Richmond should be singing his praises at every possible opportunity, if they know what's good for them.

Especially if they want to nest quotes
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Jonathan on April 05, 2009, 08:50:22 AM
Am I *that* transparent?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kwyjibo on April 05, 2009, 01:03:01 PM
Wasn't the cheer *about* him? I just assume it would be, given his legendary managerial prowess and general all-around awesomeness.

The people of Richmond should be singing his praises at every possible opportunity, if they know what's good for them.

Especially if they want to nest quotes

If you haven't noticed he gave us our powers back about a week ago.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: frizgolf on April 05, 2009, 08:54:35 PM
If you haven't noticed he gave us our powers back about a week ago.
I figured folks were doing it manually.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Jonathan on April 06, 2009, 10:15:15 AM
Wasn't the cheer *about* him? I just assume it would be, given his legendary managerial prowess and general all-around awesomeness.

The people of Richmond should be singing his praises at every possible opportunity, if they know what's good for them.

Especially if they want to nest quotes

If you haven't noticed he gave us our powers back about a week ago.

Yeah, I noticed.

I also can't help myself.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kwyjibo on April 06, 2009, 10:15:45 AM
Have some self control, man.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on April 06, 2009, 12:28:29 PM
Yeah, I noticed.

I also can't help myself.

You're like that Looney Tunes sketch with the "Yipes, and away!" into a tree, over and over and over. Maybe I'll just start calling you Daffy Duck.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kenneth Toilethole on April 16, 2009, 02:55:03 PM
Good to see Cat Power kept her spot in the Cub's pitching rotation this year.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on April 16, 2009, 05:34:02 PM
OMG! The Indians SOOOOO ruined the opening of Yankees Stadium today with their 10-2 victory. WOOOOOOO! I watched the first coupla innings during lunch and I was really getting tired of "that's the first ever XXXX in Yankee Stadium". I noticed he didn't say it when Lee plunked Texiera though... odd, right? HAH! And now Grady Sizemore has the first ever Grand Slam in Yankee Stadium history and Cliff Lee (and the Tribe) the first ever W in Yankee Stadium history. Oohhh, victory is so sweet.

Especially since I reckon Yankees will win the rest of the games during the series. D'oh!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Jonathan on April 17, 2009, 01:18:23 AM
Cliff Lee, trying desperately to prove that 2008 was not a fluke.

Don't worry, it's still a fluke.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on April 19, 2009, 10:21:17 PM
The group watching the FA Cup Semifinal match today included a few members of the RailHawks which made me wonder: do professional athletes enjoy watching other teams play, or do they focus on skills they could pick up to improve their own game?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: frizgolf on April 20, 2009, 07:42:31 AM
Coming only from a disc golf background, I'd have to say a little of both. It's kinda neat watching the top players compete. I can identify with every thought that may be going through their minds during competition, and kinda ebb and flow with their emotions as they play. I also pick up some good pointers by watching.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on April 23, 2009, 10:43:34 AM
I find it incredibly satisfying that a guy named Carlos Villanueva plays for one Milwaukee team while another guy named Charlie Villanueva plays for another Milwaukee team.

It just seems right. Sort of like when Johnny Podres pitched for the Padres back in 1969.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: JohnnyRoyale on April 24, 2009, 09:20:19 PM
If the Lions take Crabtree tomorrow, I'll throw myself off of the Space Needle
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Jonathan on April 24, 2009, 11:13:14 PM
Don't worry, everything will be okay now that the Lions have their new "fiercer" logo...
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: JohnnyRoyale on April 25, 2009, 09:31:36 PM
Those stupid fucks couldn't have traded their #1 pick and a lot of those picks they got for Roy Williams, and used them to get Jay Cutler??

No, instead they got Matthew Stafford (though that's  better than Sanchez). He's not a bad kid, but no Cutler, a proven QB. And then they took a friggin' TE in the first round when plenty of good CB's and DE's were left???

Oh well, at least they weren't as bad as the Raiders...
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on May 21, 2009, 12:45:27 PM
Maybe this is me being sexist, but for whatever reason I've ended up watching a lot of NCAA female sports recently... and I really hate their attitude.

I can't really describe it.  I guess it's like imagine if people played purely for the competition so they have an entirely different attitude than a pro or someone likely to be drafted.  Then let's say that there is also very little coverage of the sport so you can get away more with saying what's on your mind.  Then let's say that person also actually listened to the coach's pep talk and drew inspiration from it.

That person could say with a straight face things like "I knew that my will was stronger so the tougher it got the more likely they were to fold" or "We set out to raise the bar of the sport and I think we did that today.  We dominated from start to finish just like we knew we could."  If you heard someone say something like that, wouldn't you kind of want to punch them in the face?  I mean, would you want to sit down and play a game of Monopoly with someone who is going to take their victory as a signal of Triumph of the Will (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triumph_of_the_Will) and who will doubtlessly not treat a defeat the same way?

If I ever have a kid, I'm going to teach them that there are only two reasons to play sports: personal amusement or money. 


Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on May 21, 2009, 04:11:09 PM
The Cavs lost ONE game and already I'm practically on suicide watch. What's wrong with me?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on May 21, 2009, 04:43:33 PM
I have no idea how the Cavs lost that game, or how the Lakers won theirs.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on May 22, 2009, 11:41:43 PM
I wonder what the over under is on the number of times I'll see that shot in my lifetime?  100?  I'll take the over.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on May 23, 2009, 05:17:02 PM
Oh definitely take the over. I think I've seen it 100 times in the past 24 hours. And, um, I'm still not tired of it.

I really really really really really couldn't believe it went in when it happened. When it was in the air I was actually thinking "that's such an ugly shot - no way is it going in... f*ck we're down 0-2...this sucks"
And then

BOOOOM!!!!!!


Le sigh.

The Cavs sucked ass both times they went to Orlando this year. Add that on to how much we struggled against them AT HOME and this looks to be a seriously troubling series. Of course, that's also my Clevelander Pessimism coming out.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: frizgolf on May 23, 2009, 09:28:37 PM
I like the Cavs.
I think King James can do it.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poncho on May 25, 2009, 10:58:55 AM
I'm not an NBA fan... but Magic fever is running high here.  I like it.

SUCK IT TURDTOWN!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on May 28, 2009, 01:54:01 AM
It was terrible defense by Man U., but that was still a pretty kickass goal from Messi today.   I thought the cross was way too far behind him.  Somehow he managed to jump like, slanted backwards even though he was running forwards.  And then somehow while his body was slanted backwards away from the goal he still managed to keep the header somewhat down when it seemed like he would have popped it up for sure.

The Eto'o goal was just flat-out terrible defense.  Give him the outside and even if he gets around you it's a tough angle for a shot.  And the goalie is playing him that way, too.  Let him cut inside and he has the whole goal at his mercy and just has to place his shot.  It's just basic soccer.  It wasn't even like Eto'o faked him out or made an incredible touch.  The defender really just overran the ball and Eto'o mostly just kind of let the dude's momentum carry him past the ball.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on May 28, 2009, 08:51:59 AM
Do ESPN hate the Reds?

I was working out on a recumbent bike at the gym this morning, determined not to get off it until ESPN showed some footage from last night's sweep game vs the Astros. I sat cycling for almost 45 minutes - and 13 miles - and there was STILL no coverage. The good news is I got a great workout, but...

Are ESPN cnuts when it comes to Cincinnati?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on May 28, 2009, 08:55:10 AM

ESPN are cnuts when it comes to any city other than New York, Boston and LA?

Fix'd.


ESPN are cnuts.

Double fix'd.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on May 29, 2009, 07:14:56 PM
Look for me on Fox Soccer Channel tonight!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on June 03, 2009, 05:20:31 PM
I might... for the first time in my life, actually be rooting for the Lakers this year. I mean, I just have a hard time liking the Magic right now. I'm not sure if it's bitterness (probably) or simply because I feel like there's no way THAT team can be the NBA champs.

Probably just bitterness. I'll more likely ignore the Finals instead...as a sort of eff-you to the world.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on June 13, 2009, 08:02:42 PM
I'm watching exhibition matches on the Tennis channel. 

I was thinking if there's ever been a stranger player than Steffi Graf.  She has two strokes:  inside-out forehand, and backhand slice.  I don't mean like those are her two favorite shots, I mean literally those are the only two strokes she ever uses.   Early in her career she used to go cross-court with the forehand, but she stopped doing it.

The easiest shot in the game is a cross-court forehand.  Almost everyone has that as their power shot.  For the vast majority of players, if you don't have a powerful cross-court forehand, you can't play.  The difference between the champions and other players is how good their *other* strokes are.  And Graf doesn't even use it.

Furthermore, Graf uses a one-handed slice backhand, which is a defensive shot.  It prevents other people from getting a good shot off, but it's not something you win points with.  And most women use a two-handed backhand.  You know what two-handed backhand is?  It's really a left-handed forehand.  So again, it's a powerful shot that you're looking to drive cross-court.

So it's just a losing strategy.  You're hitting defensive slices against a power cross-court two-handed backhand.  So what should happen is you get pinned farther and farther back with that slice, then you drop one that's two shallow and not cross-court enough and BAM, big ol' topspin cross-court forehand to your wide open forehand side.

Except her backhand slice is like a machine.  She never misses with it.   And it's got so much bite.  It's not lofty, it's sliced pretty hard.  It just won't sit up.  Which means that you can't hit down on it.  Which takes away all your power, because you have to make sure you loft the ball over the net.  You got to spin it over, but then there's so much slice on it you can't generate good topspin.  So it's just really, really hard to hit an offensive shot against it.  If you try to hit a topspin shot hard you're going to drive it into the net.

So you're going backhand to backhand and sooner or later it's YOUR backhand that gets up a little because you're hitting topspin and she's hitting slice.  Then she runs around it and unleashes her inside-out forehand, which is most unstoppable shot EVAR.  Game over.

Anyway, so she's playing Kim Clijsters, who has one of the best two-handed backhands in the game.  Plus you would think that nowadays the women are better so you couldn't get away with such a one dimensional game.  But I'm watching, and Kim Clijsters really can't do anything with it.  She's stuck playing Grafs' game.  I would  have thought that Clijsters would wipe the court with Graf, but watching them now, I don't thinks she could beat her.

I mean, Clijsters is what, 28? and just a year or two off the tour so I mean obviously she could crush Graf NOW.  Especially since Graf is already winded half a set in.  But I'm saying like even NOW, if you had Graf just play a tiebreaker against anyone on the tour I think she could still whup just about everyone.  Also, that forehand is so pretty.  A little unconventional in spots, but through the zone it's a picture-perfect model of efficiency. 

I really think the trick is how quickly and balanced she gets down.  Most people get down by taking a bent knee step to plant.  That's why tennis players take all those stupid-looking mincing steps.  So they can kind of creep up on the ball then step into it.  It's actually harder to hit balls hit near you (which was actually Chris Evert's trick).  Graf just like, sits down.  She just lowers her torso straight down instead of down and back.  That's also why she jumps, and she also doesn't take her racquet head that far back.  Instead of putting all her weight back and then swinging it forward into the shot, she gets her weight down, giving her a stable platform, then she can just jump into/through her shot all cat-like.  What a great shot.

Agassi always had this weird way of moving.  It was almost kind of a wobble.  Like his upper body always looked like it was moving more and faster than his legs.  Now that he's retired, he's got a little pudge and it looks more like a waddle than ever.  His game is still tight, though.  And I suddenly realized why he looks like this.  Because he plays the same way!  No one got down for balls better than Agassi.  It's the same trick.  His lower body is so stable and balanced it looks like it's not moving, which is why his upper body looks wobbly in comparison.

It is kind of funny though.  They all showed up with the giant ten racquet bags to play an exhibition match.  Come on.  Are you really needing to switch racquets like every game?  Especially those two, who played back in the day and won multiple slams carrying maybe five racquets to the court. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on June 15, 2009, 10:16:23 AM
That was more in-depth and intriguing discussion about tennis then anything I've ever read.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on June 24, 2009, 03:06:43 PM
I like it when the US goes up early in soccer.  Because then you're at the stage where you can't really put 11 men behind the ball, but you can massively frustrate them with boring soccer.

And who plays boring soccer better than us?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on June 24, 2009, 04:18:45 PM
I'm completely stunned that we're up 2-0 right now. I don't even know what to say. I wish I could be watching this...
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Jonathan on June 25, 2009, 07:17:17 AM
źŹĚ°Dos a cero!

As I said to The Champ, that is so awesome.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on June 25, 2009, 07:58:07 AM
I like it when the US goes up early in soccer.  Because then you're at the stage where you can't really put 11 men behind the ball, but you can massively frustrate them with boring soccer.

And who plays boring soccer better than us?

Against Italy, it was not us.  But we finished this one off pretty nicely.  Plus, Spain looked like shit, they didn't even really come close to finishing anything, despite having about 38 set pieces.  I don't know whether to applaud Onyewu and Demerit, or laugh at David "Pancho" Villa and Torres.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on June 25, 2009, 09:57:21 AM
WOOOOO! What fun. Especially fun to see ESPN actually giving the National team some headline space. I heard Simmons and some other ESPN cronie talking about how they are committed to soccer, but then I barely see anything about it. So that's cool.... and a big old Nelson style HA-HA! to Spain.



So we got hammered by Brazil a week ago... and now we go play them again. What do you think the odds are that we get hammered by them this time around, too?

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Jonathan on June 25, 2009, 10:11:01 AM
Hammered? Maybe not. Lose? Probably. But you never know...
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on June 29, 2009, 11:32:32 AM
I have this new idea where I market myself as a sports trainer/coach. 

The theory behind this is that pro athletes watch other pro athletes and they focus on learning to do things correctly.  It's kind of positive reinforcement.  What they should do is watch terrible athletes and learn not to do things wrong.

Like take Maria Sharapova.  You know why her shoulder hurts?  Because 1)  She has the worst service toss in the game, which is something that I've harped on for years and 2)  She used have a pretty, low-impact forehand but more and more she's gone with the huge open stance, Western grip, finish-over-your-right shoulder forehand.

You know who had the world's worst service toss and always over hit his forehand?  ME.  I wake up a some days and can't lift my arm above my shoulder.  I could have told her she was heading for trouble.

Or take the US soccer team.  Yeah, Brazil is good and when they turn on the jets it's hard to beat them.  And yeah, they got nervous.  But still, what really happened to the US team is they completely lost their shape in the back.  They got a little panicky and people started zoning in on the ball instead of their man/region and then it's like "Do you got him?  No I got him.  No who has him?"  They had the same problem against Spain, they just got away with it.

Now, had you watched me and my friends play soccer, then you can see five guys running after a ball and having no idea where to be on any given play.  Then you can watch us give up goals galore and you will never do that again. 

Homer Bailey should watch me play disc golf or bowl.  Then you will see what happens when someone has no mental fortitude.  Watch us miss a put, scream in anger or mutter to ourselves, beat ourselves up and then totally miss the putback because we're all discombulated.  Then you will truly understand what it is to suck.

Stephen Strasburg should watch me pitch.  Because apparently he has the Mark Prior problem where he does not "scapular load" correctly.  Only in order to see where the problem is, you have to break down his motion frame-by-frame.  But if you watch me pitch, I do it completely wrong from start to finish.  You don't have to break anything down.  He'd just be like "Wow, that dude throws like a girl.  No wonder.  He totally doesn't have his elbow anywhere near the right place."

See?  When you watch someone do things TOTALLY wrong and suck horribly, it brings it home in a way that watching someone do things just barely wrong and semi-getting away with it does not.

All you need to do is watch me play a sport, and if you recognize anything in my technique or demeanor that is similar to something like yours. STOP DOING THAT.

It's the "learn by teaching" concept.  You watch yourself, you don't think of all 10,000 things you might be doing wrong.  But when you watch me do all 10,000 wrong, it'll remind you.  I will be your coach by letting you be MY coach. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on June 29, 2009, 03:05:14 PM
Watching Alexei Lalas talk about soccer is like watching Steve Phillips talk about baseball.

I mean, they should know what they're talking about.  They sound like they know what they're talking about.  Except that any one who is a sports fan knows their careers and knows they have absolutely no clue what they're talking about.  And anyone who isn't a sports fan can just apply logic and realize none of what they say makes sense.  How do these people get their jobs?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: JohnnyRoyale on June 29, 2009, 08:45:31 PM
rva, please check your email as I could use some help.

Thx,
M


Watching Alexei Lalas talk about soccer is like watching Steve Phillips talk about baseball.

I mean, they should know what they're talking about.  They sound like they know what they're talking about.  Except that any one who is a sports fan knows their careers and knows they have absolutely no clue what they're talking about.  And anyone who isn't a sports fan can just apply logic and realize none of what they say makes sense.  How do these people get their jobs?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Jonathan on June 30, 2009, 05:55:43 AM
Stephen Strasburg should watch me pitch.  Because apparently he has the Mark Prior problem where he does not "scapular load" correctly.

This could be concerning, especially to Nats fans. You know, if there were any.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on July 19, 2009, 11:59:53 AM
Haven't done this for years - a Sunday afternoon reading a book, sipping on a beer and listening to some entertaining radio commentary of the second Ashes Test Match between England and Australia (That's Cricket, people). Most enjoyable.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on September 07, 2009, 11:14:52 AM
I stayed up until 2am explaining test match cricket to a curious German last night. I think I've duped him into becoming a fan. Poor guy.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: frizgolf on September 07, 2009, 11:44:53 AM
Furthering international harmony through sports.
That's beautiful.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Jonathan on September 08, 2009, 11:45:10 AM
Beautiful my ass. It's cricket.

- Jon-still-fuming-about-the-Ashes-athan
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on September 26, 2009, 09:09:11 PM
Ichiro was ejected for the first time in his career today, joining the latest in a long line of casualties to be tossed from games for calmy and objectively noting that Brian Runge sucks ass.

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Jonathan on September 27, 2009, 11:48:04 AM
And I was amazed at the restraint that Bob Geren showed today by *not* getting thrown out despite two awful calls in the first two innings of the A's/Angels game.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on October 09, 2009, 03:22:21 PM
It's probably already been said, so ignore this if it has, but add 10 years and a couple pounds on the Dude and you've got Rob Ryan:

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Kb9wCQ89pBw/Sl5d8O4nt3I/AAAAAAAAADI/ZotPLuqvsnc/s320/the_big_lebowski___jeff_bridges1.jpg)

(http://lebrownstown.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/042808ryan-qa1.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Bronzetree on October 12, 2009, 06:39:13 PM
So, I went in yesterday to my Yahoo Fantasy Football league and tried to cut Roddy White because he's sucked so far this season, but he was on the Can't Cut List and I had no one to put in his place because everyone was on a bye week, so I resigned myself to just grit my teeth and bear it. Turned out to be fortuitous, because he scored me a whopping 33 points yesterday. Add in that I also started Andre Johnson, Michael Turner and Cedric Benson and I ended up with a staggering 176 points, taking me to 5-0, and making me tops in my league. Last year at this time, I was 1-4, so needless to say, I'm a pretty happy guy right now.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on October 12, 2009, 08:29:14 PM
So, I went in yesterday to my Yahoo Fantasy Football league and tried to cut Roddy White because he's sucked so far this season, but he was on the Can't Cut List and I had no one to put in his place because everyone was on a bye week, so I resigned myself to just grit my teeth and bear it. Turned out to be fortuitous, because he scored me a whopping 33 points yesterday. Add in that I also started Andre Johnson, Michael Turner and Cedric Benson and I ended up with a staggering 176 points, taking me to 5-0, and making me tops in my league. Last year at this time, I was 1-4, so needless to say, I'm a pretty happy guy right now.

I started Derek Anderson... and somehow managed to win my matchup in another league.  I still don't know how.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on October 14, 2009, 03:09:30 PM
Really? Lesson #1: stay away from any player on the Browns. Seriously.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on October 14, 2009, 04:12:33 PM
Really? Lesson #1: stay away from any player on the Browns. Seriously.

Visions of the 51-45 game were still dancing in my head.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on October 15, 2009, 01:23:40 PM
Fair enough.

But take it from this Browns fan - there's no one on the Browns worth your agony unless you're in a LARGE league or have very deep rosters.

Notable (non-fantasy) Browns:
Sean Rogers
Joe Thomas
Maybe Jamal Lewis...but probably not



That's it. Seriously. No one else on the team would even start for any other team in the league with more than one win. I picked up Madden '10 and looking through their roster all of their DBs except one have rankings in the 60s. That. Is. Horrible. And looking through their best players it goes like this, in order:
O-lineman
D-lineman
Kicker
O-lineman
Linebacker
Punter


Ugh. That's not good. Yes, I admit some of those stats are skewed ever so slightly as this is franchise mode and their skills have already started to move around, but regardless it's very telling about the Browns.

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on October 16, 2009, 03:47:15 PM
I bet there is some place that teaches how you are supposed to move your hands on camera.  Because all the analysts, but especially all the ex-jocks do it the same.  First off, they use a lot more hand gestures than the average person.  Like, A LOT more.  And then it's always palms down or palms out.  Never palms up.  And then they have the exact same moves even on top of that.


Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on October 23, 2009, 03:59:17 PM
I was going to put this in "I have a Question" but realised that non-gym peeps wouldn't care. I couldn't find a "Dear Champ..." thread either, so I'll place it in here...

It's a peculiar question and something I haven't had to think about until recently

Since starting going to the gym in February I have worn swimshorts as the bottom half of my outfit as they are suitable for both being on any equipment or being in the pool (which I sometimes do at the end of my exercise)

I have been looking at buying some new shorts to wear. I have seen loads of supposedly sports shorts, but few (if any) come with any kind of lining inside.

You sporty types that do stuff like running etc. What do you wear down below? Regular shorts with undercrackers underneath? Shorts but commando? Shorts that have linings? What do sportsmen wear? Bueller? Anyone?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on October 23, 2009, 11:07:28 PM
Personally I just wear my boxers underneath gym shorts for that kind of exercise. I have some boxer-briefs that I sometimes wear, too, but meh, it's not a big deal.

I've gone commando a few times in the peak of summer, too. Always entertaining.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on October 24, 2009, 01:17:03 AM
Running shorts typically come with a lining.  You can get them with 10" or 11" inseams so you aren't stuck with short shorts.  But the caveat is that I don't swim, and I wouldn't recommend wearing running shorts in the pool.  If I swam I'd go for a pair of board shorts.

I do like Dan.  Shorts with linings feel weird to me.  Plus, if you do it that way, you can only wear the shorts once. before laundering. Whereas if you go with the undercracker/short combo., you can just switch out undercrackers and wear the shorts again.  I typically just wear the cheap-ass mesh shorts that you can get for way cheap online or at Target, although I do insist on pockets.  I have one nice pair of sturdier Underarmour workout shorts.

I never go commando, but I have a couple pairs of the athletic-type compression shorts/boxer-briefs that I wear sometimes.  The rest of the time I just wear boxers.   The only time underwear becomes an issue is sometimes when I do ab exercises that require me to lie down with legs up.  But I don't give a crap.  I hate ab-work and I could not possibly look or feel more like a tool than flopping around trying to do crunches.  In fact, I find it somewhat satisfying to know that while I am suffering, I make everyone else suffer by having to see some upper inner thigh.  I mean, I'm not the one looking at that, you are.  It's good schadenfreude.

Eastbay (aka Footlocker) has a pretty wide selection of apparel and is always 20% cash back on Bing.  If you wait for a sale, they not only put a lot of stuff on clearance but they also go 50% cash back on Bing.  That will probably happen post-Thanksgiving if yoy can wait that long.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poncho on October 24, 2009, 11:08:12 AM
I cannot fathom the idea of jogging/running commando or in loose boxers.  That is "junk" suicide in my opinion.  No way, no how, no chance.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on October 28, 2009, 02:03:52 PM
I hate Portsmouth and all, but what's happening to them is total bullshit. 

Yes, they bear some of the blame for not controlling their wage bill.  But the EPL held up the sale of the club for months supposedly to make sure the new owner was "fit," giving them no chance to make any summer moves.  Only to then approve the sale to an obviously unfit owner who then sold the team to another unfit owner.

Now the situation is so bad that Portsmouth is forced to try and buy a player who was unwanted by his LEAGUE TWO team... and the EPL won't even let them do it.  So they can't sell the club, they can't buy players, they're stuck with a crap owner that the EPL let buy the team, and pretty soon they will be penalized another 10 points on top of that for going into administration-- which they never had a chance of avoiding thanks to the way the league handled matters.

The EPL is a joke.  There are a good five or six teams that may not manage 30 points this year, and three or four that are looking at ten point deductions.  Obviously neither the points penalty nor vetting the owners is working.  So all they are really doing is kicking teams when they are down and making it even more difficult to turn their situations around.

I would love nothing more than to see Portsmouth get relegated a few times and suck for the next 100 years.  But not like this.  It's not good for anyone.  While things are going good for Saints now, sooner or later Liebherr will sell the team.  In two years, they could be going through the same thing Portsmouth is now, and that happened to Saints last year. 

No one is immune, not even semi-big clubs like Tottenham and Liverpool.  Perhaps not even Man U.  If your board is even remotely unsettled, or your owner wants to sell, your team is a hair's breadth away from serious trouble.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on October 28, 2009, 04:05:56 PM
From today's Guardian's coverage of the Arsenal/Liverpool Carling Cup match...

"3 min Ngog gets free on the right and swings over a half-decent cross. Kuyt, arriving late 15 yards out, gets his body into a very awkward position Ė he looked like a Rik Mayall character dry-humping fresh air Ė and sidefoots a volley wide of the far post."
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on October 28, 2009, 06:09:09 PM
I would love nothing more than to see Portsmouth get relegated a few times and continue to suck for the next 100 years
Fix'd!

Sorry RVA I disagree with your sympathetic remarks. The EPL do not get to choose who buys a team, all they do is vet who does. Portsmouth - and their ignorant, cunt-faced, redneck, chav-squared, shit for brains fans - deserve everything they've got coming to them.

Harry was on the take, Storrie was on the take, previous owners have been on the take and now the club is well and truly saddled with the consequences. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

I didn't expect anyone to feel sorry for SFC when the club was going through its difficulties. Lowe was simply allowed to fuck things up for too long. The reason I laugh at every stinking turd that floats PFC's way is because their fans showed no respect whatsoever towards Southampton predicament and actually revelled in our demise. It's eye for an eye time AFAIAC

Pompey 'did a Leeds' and believed they deserved it all and were destined for seasons and seasons of greatness, despite having a goat field for a ground. They allowed Harry to buy a shitload of allegedly 'quality' players at stupid prices all because he doubtless wanted the 'bung' that came with them. He's probably doing the same thing at Spurs as we speak because he doesn't possess any integrity whatsoever. Soon as TH's owners tell him he can't buy any more players he'll be off somewhere else. There's a reason why he has never been England manager for as 'good' as he's supposed to be - because he can't make any dirty backhand money off the players moving from club to club.

Nope, don't feel any sympathy for those fish fuckers, not once single ounce.

(I do feel sorry for Southend though and their eventual point deduction is likely to have a much bigger impact on us.)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on October 29, 2009, 01:53:21 PM
Yeah, that points deduction would put them below Saints.  It would also apply even more pressure on them to sell-off their players.  And since they are mid/top table right, that would be an opportunity to raid them and strengthen the squad as well.  Which totally sucks for them. 

As for Pay up Pompey, I largely agree that they-- like Saints-- made their own bed.  The price they will pay for their hubris is that they will be relegated, that the banks will demand their $$, the club will go into administration, and the administrators will control how much the club can spend.  At worst, the club could fold.

But this dude they want is out-of-contract.  He's a League Two player.  His choice is between finding a job, playing in some foreign B-division, or getting to play in the Premier League.  Pretty easy choice.  I think he can be signed, and probably signed for very cheap.  And I think most Portsmouth creditors would prefer that they sign eleven dudes like this, and sell all their expensive players rather than being stuck with massively expensive players that they are unable to move because they can't bring in cheap substitutes.

No one else appears to want this player.  I bet he wants to play for Portsmouth and take his chances on his wages not being met.  The creditors/potential administrator would probably think this is a good move.  So why can't Portsmouth have him?

I'm not against Portsmouth taking a huge fall, I'm against the league kicking them when they're down for no reason.  If you're going to let Portsmouth be all ambitious and spend too much, and you're going to let them sell to whatever owner they want, then let them.  If they go into administration, let the administrators do what they will. 

Either don't intervene, or intervene in a way that protects the stability of the league and sport.  The league getting all up in the Blue and White but mostly Sea of Red's affairs hasn't provided any stability whatsoever.  I think it's made it worse.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on October 29, 2009, 03:40:16 PM
But, RVA, what if you owned one of the clubs that PFC owed money to? Surely you would agree the club should pay you for those players first? I think without such EPL rules in place another asshole club could just accumulate a team without paying for any of them.

I take your point regarding this kid though. At this point I think Portsmouth's "boardroom farce" is far funnier than ours was.

I keep being reminded of Jamie Farr in "Cannonball Run" - all incompetent style and no substance.

Fuck off Pompey. Arse, door, way out and all that.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on October 29, 2009, 05:00:44 PM
Yeah, it is pretty hilarious that it turns out the reason for the transfer fee is because they owe a debt to Arse for Diarra and to Chelsea for Johnson.

The bought both guys for around 5 million pounds and sold both for around 20 million pounds.  So how can you not have enough money for a PARTIAL payment on a player you already sold for 3-4 times what you paid?  Where did the 30 million pounds go?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on October 29, 2009, 06:29:36 PM
Where did the 30 million pounds go?

Probably towards renovations on 'Arry's mansion on the Sandbanks shoreline (amongst THE most expensive real estate in Britain, even including London) or to fill Storrie's already bung-ridden pockets
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on October 30, 2009, 12:39:55 PM
After bugging a friend for months about signing me up with his indoor soccer team, I bagged because a good portion of the games have a start time of 11pm or later.  

Of course, I used the far sexier "I got a bum knee" excuse rather than the much more pathetic "it's past my bedtime" excuse.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on October 30, 2009, 12:47:13 PM
Bwhahahah.

If you need another (different) team I might be able to hook you up. Don't know if they are looking for more people, but from what I can tell they could certainly use more "players."
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on November 06, 2009, 12:33:23 AM
So I'm in the middle of my first FM 2010 season.

Papa Waigo kind of sucks in this game.  Saganowski is awesome but he's hurt.  Lambert is also awesome, but for some reason he absolutely hates me and always gives a half-ass effort.  Mathew Paterson is okay in a pinch, but he's below average and will never get better than solid League 1 striker, and I don't plan on being in League 1 next year.

I've blown nearly all my transfer wages shoring up the backline and investing in a young midfielder or two.  So what I need is a really cheap veteran striker type guy.  Someone I can sign to a short-term contract and won't demand too much in wages but will still be above average for League 1 and who I could use a backup next year when I am promoted.

There's a guy out there who is pretty much perfect.  36 and fading, but with a Premier League pedigree.  Speed and stamina are fading fast but he probably still has enough in the tank to cut the mustard, for this season at least.  He's transfer-listed a $160k which is all I have left.  While the physical game has waned, he retains the skills and mental attribute that made him an EPL player with 8 international caps.  Most importantly, he has an 18 determination, which is as probably as high as any striker in the game.  All of which means he would do a fantastic job mentoring a young striker, something that is critical in this game.  

There is only one problem.  It's Kevin Phillips.*  





*The fans do not like Kevin Phillips.  Although if rumor is true, I suppose some of them (and perhaps a player or two) might enjoy the company of his wife.

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on November 06, 2009, 08:19:55 AM
*The fans do not like Kevin Phillips.  Although if rumor is true, I suppose some of them (and perhaps a player or two) might enjoy the company of his wife.

I taxi driver too as I heard it

I didn't like KP at all, even before his marital woes
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on November 06, 2009, 10:35:21 AM
It's kind of impressive that is actually built into the game, though.   I mean, not the Julie Phillips hooking-up-with-half-of-Southampton part, the fans hating Kevin Phillips.

When I asked a scout for a report on Phillips, it came back with a recommendation and the caveat "The fans' contempt for this player should be taken into account before signing him."
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on November 19, 2009, 01:31:22 PM
I'm fairly certain that Henry's cheating would not have been an issue at all had it happened here.  In fact, it would probably go down as having been a very clever "veteran" thing to do. 

I think our mentality here is trying to get away with stuff is fine, as long as it's not something that could cause injury.  We almost view trying to cheat as part of the game.  It's the ref's job to catch it, and if you sneak one by him-- hey, good job.  What Henry did was pretty similar to what A.J. Pierzynski did in the World Series and no one really had a problem with that.

I'm not saying our mentality is better or worse; it's just very interesting is all.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on November 20, 2009, 10:42:55 AM
My Irish friend says he's going to boycott all things France until 2014. He's rather livid... and bitter.

No more french wine for him, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on November 20, 2009, 11:18:54 AM
He should also boycott all things Swedish since that's the home country of the ref that blew the call(s).   
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on November 20, 2009, 02:03:01 PM
Heheh. I saw him immediately after the game and he was saying the same thing, except he didn't know where the ref was from at the time. I'm pretty sure he won't be eating any ligonberries.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on November 22, 2009, 07:47:20 PM
That was a surprisingly good Browns-Lions game.   You would think no one could win that game, but actually everyone won.  It was fairly entertaining for non-fans, and for the fans and the teams themselves they both walk away thinking "Hey, maybe our QB doesn't totally suck.  There's hope for the future!:
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on November 23, 2009, 11:08:28 AM
I just briefly re-read what happened. And based on that, no, I didn't feel like we won. It felt like we lost by one point b/c we're the Browns and we absolutely suck.

Maybe I'll keep your opinion in mind, though.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poncho on November 23, 2009, 06:04:02 PM
I watched that entire game.

I understand that a game cannot end of a defensive penalty.
I also understand that an offensive penalty or injury with no time outs left, ends the game.
Matt Stafford went down with 0 timeouts left.

In that position... the way the rules read... he is required to get off the field prior to the 45 second game clock expiring and the play must take place within that 45 seconds.  If it doesn't, there is a delay of game penalty thrown.  Game over.

I hate the Turds, but that is highway robbery.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on November 23, 2009, 06:11:05 PM
I believe the Browns actually took a timeout before the final play, allowing Stafford to re-take the field.

Mangenius, I tells ya.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poncho on November 23, 2009, 06:21:29 PM
They did that AFTER the refs announced an injury timeout for Detroit.  We reviewed it on the DVR and it was well longer than 45 before the Turds called their timeout.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on November 23, 2009, 06:23:19 PM
I spent three years in NYC listening to everyone and their mother complaining about Mangini. He had NO friends here. They finally got rid of him and I was happy... until my own team hired him. UGH. I was like "I'm in for a long two years before they fire him again."

I might be lucky and it could be less?!??!? Let's hope.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on November 23, 2009, 06:38:43 PM
They did that AFTER the refs announced an injury timeout for Detroit.  We reviewed it on the DVR and it was well longer than 45 before the Turds called their timeout.

From NFL.com:

"A team cannot buy an excess time out for a penalty. However, a fourth time out is allowed without penalty for an injured player, who must be removed immediately. A fifth time out or more is allowed for an injury and a five-yard penalty is assessed if the clock was running. Additionally, if the clock was running and the score is tied or the team in possession is losing, the ball cannot be put in play for at least 10 seconds on the fourth or more time out. The half or game can end while those 10 seconds are run off on the clock."
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on December 02, 2009, 07:10:04 PM
When you are as famous - and wealthy - as someone like Tiger Woods how the fuck do you expect to get away with ANY affair? All that goodwill, all that prestige and all that "shining example to our youth" image thrown away on a series of cheap sluts with a money-making hankering for Woods' wood. What a total nob-head.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kwyjibo on December 02, 2009, 08:55:26 PM
Incredibly dumb, I can't fathom a person in his position feeling the need to do this.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on December 03, 2009, 12:36:17 PM
I can't see how a person in his position would NOT feel the need to do it.

If I had a wife that was 1/4 as hot as Tiger Woods' wife I'd be thinking I'd done pretty well for myself.  In fact,  I'm such a non-perfectionist that I'm not sure I care about looks at all.

But then, I'm the kinda guy that if I shoot under 150 in 18 holes I'm like "Wow.  That was a good day.  That was fun."  I have no desire to try and shoot 100, much less 72, much less as low a score as possible while beating other awesome golfers by as much as possible.  

And that is a large part of why I shoot 150 in 18 holes and Tiger Woods shoots like 64.  I don't think you reach Tiger Woods' level of dominance without being hyper-competitive, aggressive, and a perfectionist in every area of your life.  So why wouldn't you always want more/perfection in terms of women?  

All of those guys exhibit addictive behavior, they just happened to be addicted to golf or basketball or maybe more loosely-- "winning."  But that's just the addiction we see.  You would expect those tendencies to manifest themselves in other areas of their lives.  So it doesn't surprise me in the slightest if Woods is also addicted to sex/love or whatever and Jordan to gambling.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on December 03, 2009, 12:48:54 PM
I can't see how a person in his position would NOT feel the need to do it.

If I had a wife that was 1/4 as hot as Tiger Woods' wife I'd be thinking I'd done pretty well for myself.

I get what you're saying and don't necessarily disagree, but the chick he supposedly banged is a cocktail waitress who was on a VH1 reality show called Tool Academy.  In his terms, she'd be the windmill part of a mini-putt course.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on December 03, 2009, 01:36:19 PM
In his terms, she'd be the windmill part of a mini-putt course.

But the windmill's usually a hard hole to get. Surely hers would be easy?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on December 03, 2009, 02:03:49 PM
Good point.

edited:

In his terms, she'd be the cabinet everyone sticks their beat-up putters in after a round or two.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on December 07, 2009, 02:10:17 PM
FABO Bob Castellini's pathetic Redsfest speech.  Five months from Opening Day and you already sound defeated.  Jesus, throw the fans a fucking bone and at least act like you're happy to be there and that you're looking forward to next season.  Pretend like we have a chance, at least.  Don't turn to Lou Pinella and ask him to "take it easy on the Reds next season."  Asshole.

Double FABO those "dads" who kept sending their kids through the kid's only autograph lines getting memorabilia signed.

Triple FABO: The NCAA for even allowing the possibility to snatch away a coach before the season ends. 

Quadruple FABO:  The business of sports. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on December 08, 2009, 11:02:09 AM
I just told my co-worker that she "somehow combines the worst attributes of over-competitive and 'girl'."  That is apparently not a nice thing to say.  I am informed that there is nothing wrong with being a woman, and that women are allowed to be competitive.

However, I stand by my statement. ;D
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on December 08, 2009, 01:15:28 PM
So what you're saying is... her name is Elizabeth Lambert?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on December 09, 2009, 10:35:49 AM
I found this quote to be a bit odd:

"With everything going on in the country, I can't believe that Congress is wasting time and spending taxpayers' money on football," Bill Hancock, the BCS executive director, said in a phone interview with The Associated Press. "We feel strongly that managing of college sports is best left to the people in higher education."

Not that I don't agree with Hancock, but that was a strange way to put it.  Aren't the BCS schools wasting enormous amounts of time and money (and considering most of the big-time programs are at public universities, it's also taxpayer time and money) every year on football? 

It just seems weird to me that an organization representing college football would essentially take the stance of "It's just college football... who cares?"  I can't see a major university at some fundraiser telling its alumni "With all that's going on in the country, you have better things to do than waste your money on football."
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on December 29, 2009, 03:25:42 PM
Saw Tony Gonzalez at lunch today. NOM.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on December 29, 2009, 04:02:08 PM
Saw Tony Gonzalez at lunch today. NOM.

Should've asked the giant pussy why he was out of Sunday's game, possibly costing me my 3rd place Fantasy Football matchup.  You don't need your legs to catch the ball, just your arms.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: va-vacious on December 29, 2009, 05:45:53 PM
I am reveling in the fact that I am currently 1st place in my bowl pool.  I know there are 22 more games, so my chances of winning are not good, but there are so many sports junkies in this who have analyzed the crap out of every game, and I filled out my sheet in about 2 minutes.  ;D
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on January 03, 2010, 04:54:13 PM
I really don't like Leeds, but that was still pretty cool.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on January 08, 2010, 07:17:28 PM
I really don't like Leeds, but that was still pretty cool.

HAH! I said the same thing. I mean, I gots no love for them, but I've got less for the Devils.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on January 08, 2010, 10:02:39 PM
If you agree to a blood test IMMEDIATELY after the fight, shouldn't that solve all the problems?  I mean, it would be pretty difficult to dope yourself up and not have it show up on tests after the fight.  But if you take the blood after the fight, then no one goes into the fight short some blood.  Seems the perfect compromise.  I mean seriously.  If you were going to blood test boxers, isn't the most logical time immediately after the fight? 

But then again, Floyd Mayweather is and sadly always has been a pussy.  Yes, he fought Marquez and some other top dudes but never until someone absolutely forced him.  And by fighting Marquez he didn't fight Moseley so it's like he fights one tough fight to get out of several more.  Even though again, I think he would have kicked Moseley's ass.

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on January 09, 2010, 03:11:05 PM
But then again, Floyd Mayweather is and sadly always has been a pussy.

Agreed. He's slick, one of the great movers, punches hard, but wouldn't fight if it meant messing up with his grille. I think Pacquiao terrifies him. Glad the fight is off, to be honest.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on January 11, 2010, 07:19:57 AM
The Reds spend $6 mil per year to sign Aroldis Chapman???

What the heck?  Bye bye, Harang, Arroyo, Cordero, or Phillips... or some combination thereof.  I don't see how you can sign a guy with his pedigree no matter how good he looks in workouts when you have the kind of balance sheet the Reds have.  At best, he could help the team in 2011.  At worst, this is $30 million sunk down a black hole on a team that can barely afford to operate at current revenue levels.

Someone talk me off the ledge here.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on January 11, 2010, 12:09:43 PM
I think it was smart signing, personally.  The Reds are going to have to take risks and develop players to win, and maybe no one has more upside than Aroldis Chapman.  Bryce Harper and Strasburg are the only two.  Strasburg has the same upside but is much farther developed, but they had no way to get Strasburg because the Nats had the #1 pick.  They won't get Harper either, not to mention that Harper is farther away from the big leagues than Chapman is.

In a way, there is no limit on baseball payroll because owners can spend whatever they want.  Like look at the Cubs.  They were stingy for years and years and suddenly two years ago decided to spend like a big market team.  Obviously there are practical limitations because of media market and all... but still payroll limitations are somewhat self-set.  It may be that Bob Castellini has decided he wants to spend a little more to bring a winner to the city.  I think the guy genuinely wants to field a good team, he just sucks at it is all.

The real issue is why they spent all that money on Rolen.  If they hadn't done that, they would have had more financial flexibililty and the Chapman signing isn't such a risk.  But the money spent on Rolen is a sunk cost.

Besides, Dusty Baker is gone after this year so perhaps Chapman will actually be given a chance to develop. The Reds are still on track to having a pretty awesome core of young players who hopefully will not be managed by Baker in 2011-2013.  The Cards tied themselves up with the offer they made to Holiday, plus having to resign Pujols.  The Cubs lost a crap-ton on Bradley and still to deal with Soriano's big contract.  Milwaukee is okay, but needs a staff and FA pitchers don't come cheap.  So really, there aren't a whole lot of teams in better shape.

I look at it like the Reds and Pirates are the two teams in semi-rebuilding mode who could do some damage two years down the line.  The Reds are doing it with quality prospects and signings, while the Pirates are going for sheer quantity and hoping 3-4 out of 20 guys pan out.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on January 11, 2010, 03:01:04 PM
I think it was smart signing, personally.  The Reds are going to have to take risks and develop players to win, and maybe no one has more upside than Aroldis Chapman.  Bryce Harper and Strasburg are the only two.  Strasburg has the same upside but is much farther developed, but they had no way to get Strasburg because the Nats had the #1 pick.  They won't get Harper either, not to mention that Harper is farther away from the big leagues than Chapman is.

The guys on the Reds message boards I read agree with this.  I guess I feel a little better.  But the Reds just haven't had a lot of luck lately, so I don't expect this guy to pan out, is all.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on January 11, 2010, 06:22:35 PM
Well they fired Dick Pole, so maybe things will change a bit.

And they do have Mario Soto as an ace-in-the-hole who seems to have done pretty well with some of their younger arms.  The guy certainly has an amazing fastball, and decent slider when he can control it.  The one thing he needs is a change up, and who better to teach a change up than Mario Soto?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on January 11, 2010, 07:55:24 PM
Well they fired Dick Pole, so maybe things will change a bit.

And they do have Mario Soto as an ace-in-the-hole who seems to have done pretty well with some of their younger arms.  The guy certainly has an amazing fastball, and decent slider when he can control it.  The one thing he needs is a change up, and who better to teach a change up than Mario Soto?

Mario Soto had the greatest change-up of all times.  The guy was an ace for several years with essentially 2 pitches. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on January 11, 2010, 10:37:13 PM
Exactly.  The guy was awesome.  And  Chapman is almost the exact same profile as Cueto and Volquez and Soto did a good job with both of those two.  I'm sure the Reds considered that when they made their bid.

The only major downside here is that Volquez already blew out his arm.  Cueto is near the breakdown point, and Bailey was worked stupidly hard as well.  And I don't think Harang or Arroyo have much left in the tank.  Which means there will be considerable pressure to use and abuse Chapman.  And they will never put together that killer rotation because Baker kills pitchers as fast as the Reds can produce them.

You take Baker out of the equation and this is an incredibly promising team.  You put him back in the equation and this team will suck ass for many years to come.  I guess the thing you hope for is Baker doesn't destroy anyone in the year he has left, and then he doesn't get his contract renewed.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kwyjibo on January 12, 2010, 07:38:28 AM
Mark McGwire used steriods!  *Shock* *Disbelief*

To quote Mike Breen, "sky still blue".
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poncho on January 12, 2010, 11:23:29 AM
Michael Jackson has died!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on January 12, 2010, 01:06:28 PM
Quote
The chairman of Leicester City Football Club has been charged with two counts of cheating the public revenue.
The charges against Milan Mandaric relate to the payment of US $295,000 to another person through a bank account in Monaco.
It meant he evaded tax and National Insurance contributions due between 1 April 2002 and 28 November 2007, the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) said. The allegation goes back to his time at Portsmouth Football Club

So, 'Arry had a bank account in Monaco then?

Pompey are up to their fucking necks in shit.

I hate to gloat but.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Nate on January 13, 2010, 04:18:32 AM
Mark McGwire used steriods!  *Shock* *Disbelief*

To quote Mike Breen, "sky still blue".

I don't know if this will be much of a story a few months from now.  People don't seem to care that A-Rod, Manny, or Ortiz used anymore.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: clemsonfan on January 14, 2010, 06:20:01 AM
So proud of my Tigers beating the Tarheels last night!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kenneth Toilethole on January 17, 2010, 10:50:43 AM
Glen Rice Jr?!?

I feel way too young to be watching Glen Rice Jr.

Also, how 'bout dem Wildcats!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poncho on January 30, 2010, 03:48:56 PM
So I'm online with people from all sorts of places around the globe and there is the running gag about me not liking "the footie" along with the little jabs about "American Football" vs "Soccer" vs "Futball" vs "Football".  Long story short... a nice multi-national group of us (including Rafe) were talking about how to turn me into a "SUPER FAN" without actually having to be one.  Like tossing a few key phrases around and being a rabid follower of a team that no one would question.

I came up with a few parameters:

1. They had to be English and OLD
2. They had to SUCK... like suck so bad that no one would ever, ever, ever, ever think I would make up liking them.
3. They had to have had a promising future in the distant past that was never realized.
4. They had to have at least one man (or a handful) of old that was seen as their hero... yet his destiny was never fully fulfilled
5. They preferably had to have blue as their home color, no dragons and from somewhere small enough that I wouldn't likely run into another fan.

Hehehehe... mind you this is mostly for giggles, not something that I really believe in... just a bit of fun that I could use in the future for more fun.

Several people made suggestions and there were a bunch of links tossed around.  Then I finally found the perfect team, all by myself.  It matched all of my wants and needs.  Every single thing I mentioned this team had.  I slapped up the link to their FC and I got something kinda like this as a reply:

Rafe: Um, mate?  We probably should talk about that choice.  It certainly meets all your qualifications to a "T", but before you get too far into the gag, you should probably know that The Posh are Butter's team.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on January 30, 2010, 07:01:25 PM
Do you like chairs?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: va-vacious on January 30, 2010, 11:16:40 PM
hee!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on February 01, 2010, 01:24:08 PM
That is hilarious. You should tell your fans that you even know who would be the greatest manager they've ever had.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on February 02, 2010, 12:37:09 AM
Jim Gannon?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on February 02, 2010, 07:28:42 AM
Jim Gannon?

Let's all hope.  It's not like there's any way back from a 12 point deficit at this point in the season.  Alas, only the most optimistic of fans thought this would be more than a one season appearance in the Championship anyway.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poncho on February 02, 2010, 03:30:37 PM
Like me.  I totally thought it was the start of something awesome.  Maybe even a decade of dominance for our boys.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on February 02, 2010, 04:04:04 PM
No you didn't.  You thought the prior two seasons were the start of something awesome.

But this year you knew they were doomed once they lost the man that was seen as their hero... his destiny was never fully fulfilled.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poncho on February 02, 2010, 04:05:38 PM
What we need is another Terry Bly.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on February 06, 2010, 01:59:35 PM
Hahahahahahahahaha...... Pumpey lost 5-0 today. 3 of the goals were OWN goals including, apparently, one real rasper of a volley.

Fuck me, when things aren't going right for you things are REALLY not going right for you are they? Serves you right for gloating over our own problems in 2009 you Skate bastards.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on February 12, 2010, 01:04:34 PM
Come and 'ave a go if you think you're hard enough (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/8512914.stm)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Nate on February 13, 2010, 11:52:50 PM
They need to blow up NBA All-Star Weekend.  Here's how I would fix it.

1) The H-O-R-S-E contest.  Worked well last year; this year it turned into the perfect example of how not to do it.  There were few trick shots, which should be the whole point of one of these.  Instead, we got reverse layups and arguably the most soul-draining moment of any All-Star Weekend.  You see, the H-O-R-S-E contest was supposed to be on for an hour.  However, it didn't get officially underway until 7:15, because we had to have the TNT broadcast crew pick their contestants, crack jokes at each other, and try to pump up the crowd with their "expertise" and "wit."  Anyhow, when 8:00 rolled around, there was a tie between two of the contestants.  Instead of making them try to do a trick shot or something awe-inspiring, they made Kevin Durant and Rajan Rondo alternate shooting threes at the top of the key until one of them got H-O-R-S-E.  Naturally, that took about ten minutes to complete because NBA basketball players are naturally good shooters (mostly).  It represented everything wrong about these all-star weekends.  No one took it seriously, and television ruined the ending.

2) Skills contest/Team ball contest:  There's really no way to improve this because no one watches anyway.

3)  Three-point contest:  It's not that it isn't exciting; it's just that I don't care about most of the contestants.  I think they should bring back legends of the past to compete against current STARS.  Paul Pierce, you're in.  Channing Frye, out.  How awesome would it be if you had Bird, Craig Hodges, and some other ex 3-pt champ against people like Pierce, Billups, and Steve Nash?  You'd watch, right?  Just all-around great shooting, which is the point of this thing.

4) Slam-Dunk contest:  Three words:  Boring As Fuck.  I'd say end this now, but there's one scenario which would give it a proper send-off and put fans on the edge of their seats.  Offer up a $10 million cash prize where another $10 million goes to the winner's charity of their choice and invite Kobe, LeBron, Vince Carter, and any other STAR who wants to participate (though I would make exceptions for Nate Robinson because it's always exciting to see someone 5'9" in there).  The fans WANT to see these guys compete, and the money is serious enough to get them to come out.  You think Sprite or Nike or Gatorade wouldn't want to put up the dough for this?  If this doesn't work, end it now.  It's become a joke doing it the normal way.  Worst sporting hour I've spent ever.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on February 14, 2010, 10:50:20 AM
3)  Three-point contest:  It's not that it isn't exciting; it's just that I don't care about most of the contestants.  I think they should bring back legends of the past to compete against current STARS.  Paul Pierce, you're in.  Channing Frye, out.  How awesome would it be if you had Bird, Craig Hodges, and some other ex 3-pt champ against people like Pierce, Billups, and Steve Nash?  You'd watch, right?  Just all-around great shooting, which is the point of this thing.

OOoooooh, I like where you're going with this. How about instead: Current Sun Steve Nash vs Current Sun GM Steve Kerr???

See, now THAT would be fun. How cool would it be to take out your boss in a dumb contest like that? You'd love it if you could do that. Admit it.

Or you think it would be a blow out b/c the current players are practicing all the time and the old guys aren't... you could do a bracket style where on one side is the current players and on the other side is the old guys. Then the Old Guy champ goes up against the Current Players Champ.

The Slam Dunk contest has NEVER attracted me. I don't know why - probably just b/c I feel like a dunk is a dunk and I've seen them all now. The only ones I can even remember from the past 15 yrs is when Nate dunked over Howard, and when Steve Nash included a soccer-style assist for someone's (I don't even remember who had the actual dunk). Stars participating? I dunno. Probably still wouldn't do much for me.

Bill Simmons has many thoughts on this subject and I admit I mostly agree with him. If you must have WNBA players there, do more with it and make them more integrated.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on February 16, 2010, 04:21:40 PM
Dear Bill Simmons,

You know that John Tesh video you keep link to once every six months with a running, unfunny joke about his "air piano?" 

He's not playing "air piano."  He's dribbling a pretend basketball.  Which actually has ten times the comedy potential of your stupid air piano comments, in addition to you being wrong.

Just thought you should know.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on February 16, 2010, 06:59:30 PM
Dear Bill Simmons,

You know that John Tesh video you keep link to once every six months with a running, unfunny joke about his "air piano?" 

He's not playing "air piano."  He's dribbling a pretend basketball.  Which actually has ten times the comedy potential of your stupid air piano comments, in addition to you being wrong.

Just thought you should know.


I haven't read today's column, so I'm not sure the joke... but I do remember when he first linked to this. I read the column at work, but streaming video was blocked so I didn't see the video until I got home later that night. I opened up the same column to get this link... and noticed that something was different. He had written initially either "air piano" or "air dribbling" but realized he'd gotten it wrong (or, enough commentary came that he was wrong?) and he and the editors changed it to the other one. I disagreed with whatever they changed it TO but then in a podcast later that week he actually said that it was a big deal and yada yada yada.

Basically I think he knows that it's air dribbling...or he knew it was... or someone has convinced him one way or the other. It's even possible that this current reference is actually a reference to his mess-up? I dunno. But he knows.

At least I'm convinced he does. He has to. He's a smart guy, and it's OBVIOUSLY air dribbling.

And Tesh is looking lame doing so.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on February 16, 2010, 09:07:17 PM
Sonuva!  He changed his column again.  Is there no integrity left in unhumorous sports reporting?!?

The funniest/lamest thing about that video is not John Tesh dressed in a pirate costume (which he's not, he's wearing a tuxedo vest with no tuxedo), but rather GE Smith failing to wear a pirate costume and trying to look cool trading fours with Charlie Bisharat who IS dressed like a pirate because Charlie Bisharat always dresses somewhat like a pirate.

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on February 28, 2010, 05:20:35 PM
Man, Wayne Rooney is on fire right now.  He's way too fast for big defenders and way too strong for anyone else.  He seems to have added a bit of extra finishing instinct this year, or maybe he always had it but was content to do the dirty work for pretty boy C. Ronaldo.  On top of that, his work rate on and off the ball is insane.  I wouldn't call him a play maker exactly, but he's physical and crafty enough to keep possession on the offensive end for long periods of time and eventually the defense will break under pressure.  Honestly, he looks as dominant to me as anyone since early Ronaldo.

He seems totally capable of just taking over and winning the WC for England on his own.  And I hope he does, because he's peaking perfectly.  Next time around, I'm sure he'll still be good but he's gonna be a guy who picks his spots instead of being a force of nature.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Nate on March 01, 2010, 03:22:45 AM
Dear Bill Simmons,

You know that John Tesh video you keep link to once every six months with a running, unfunny joke about his "air piano?" 

He's not playing "air piano."  He's dribbling a pretend basketball.  Which actually has ten times the comedy potential of your stupid air piano comments, in addition to you being wrong.

Just thought you should know.


Errr...I think Bill is referring to himself playing 'air piano' there, chief.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on March 01, 2010, 11:13:28 AM
Really? I've NEVER NEVER thought that.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Nate on March 01, 2010, 07:41:51 PM
If that's the case, Wendell's comments make absolutely no sense.  None.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on March 02, 2010, 12:26:00 PM
Weellllll....... I dunno then. Regardless of that awkwardness I still enjoy watching the video. Hah.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on March 02, 2010, 12:53:32 PM
If that's the case, Wendell's comments make absolutely no sense.  None.

It's not that hard, chief.

Bill Simmons made a reference to John Tesh playing "air piano" in that video.  John Tesh is not playing "air piano" in that video.  He is "air dribbling."  Therefore Bill Simmons was wrong.  Bill Simmons has apparently realized he was mistaken and edited his article.






Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on March 02, 2010, 05:25:18 PM
This should go in "Video of the Day", but it's John Terry-baiting, so best here. Subtitles possibly nsfw, video fine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS5h-dYTZdk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS5h-dYTZdk)

I cried with laughter watching it. very amusing.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on March 07, 2010, 06:01:18 PM
I'm not sure the ACC deserves even one at large bid, much less five.  There's no way in hell they are better than say. the Atlantic Ten.  I don't even think they're as good as the CAA.

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on March 08, 2010, 12:04:50 AM
So now Virginia Tech is a lock because they beat Georgia Tech?  Really?

I mean, I like the Hokies and all, but Virginia Tech has played no one.  Their out-of-conference schedule was a joke.  They played one tough team, and it was Temple and they lost.  The only supposed "big wins" they have are against other ACC teams, and they are only "big wins" because the entire ACC is over-rated.  Does anyone really think beating UNC, Georgia Tech, and Wake are a big deal?  Because if it is, there are probably at least 20 teams NOT going to the tournament who would be happy to do just that if they had the chance. 

And apparently if GT wins a game in the ACC tournament they are in.  They didn't even finish .500 in their conference.  Their VERY CRAPPY conference.  That would mean the ACC sends as many teams as the Big East and Big Twelve are sending 7 teams.  The ACC is not even remotely fucking close as good as either of those two conferences.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poncho on March 08, 2010, 11:45:48 AM
I support a re-vamp of how the tourney is held.  I'm not a 128 teams guy... but something has to be done to keep these conferences that stink from sending a half-dozen or more teams.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on March 08, 2010, 02:17:42 PM
If I were in charge of a "mid-major" I would refuse to allow any of my teams to play in a bracket buster.

Last year there were only 4 at-large bids given outside the power conferences, so obviously winning a bracket buster pretty much accomplishes nothing.  But losing a bracket buster gets you written off.

The A-10 is pretty smart not to play in them... and the A-10 is going to get 2 at-large bids this year. 


Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Nate on March 08, 2010, 06:20:49 PM
Doesn't upping the tourney to 96 teams kill the NIT?  I can't imagine watching a tournament where seeds 97-128 compete for a title.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on March 08, 2010, 10:01:53 PM
Just make a rule that no conference can send more than four teams.  You'd get rid of both the selection committee bias and stop the obnoxious trend of teams forming these mega-conferences in one fell swoop.

Admittedly, it would kind of suck for the Big 12 and the Big East this year who are both deserving of sending more than four teams.  But in the long run, the those conferences would just splinter into two and one could send 4 and one could send 3 so all those teams get in anyway.  And it would also cripple the BCS and force a playoff in football. 

Which of course is why it will never happen.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on March 08, 2010, 10:12:54 PM
Nate: I don't think the NIT has relevance anyway. Why worry about it? No one cares except the players of the teams that are playing in it.

rva: if the Big East splinters and 7 or 8 former Big East teams make the tourney, how is that any different than it is now?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on March 08, 2010, 11:36:09 PM
(http://wvhooligan.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/mlsflowchart791x1024.png)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on March 08, 2010, 11:45:47 PM
I'm saying that the Big East is a good enough conference this year that they deserve to send more than 4.  So if 7 teams out of those schools made the NCAA's I wouldn't have a problem with it.  The ACC this year is a different story.

Let's take Virginia Tech as an example.  Tech played a ridiculously soft out-of-conference schedule.  And that was smart.  Because there's no point in them playing anyone tough.  All they have to do is finish .500 in the ACC and they are in.  So why would they play anyone tough?  The only reason William and Mary has wins over Maryland and Wake this year is because we historically suck.  They played us to pad their schedules.  

Now take it a step beyond that.  The ACC is such a large conference that they have unbalanced schedules.  So even ASIDE from the fact that Tech played no one out-of-conference, and ASIDE from the fact that the ACC isn't even very good this year, VT got a very easy ACC schedule.  So even if you somehow mistakenly believe that the ACC was a good conference this year, the ACC that VT played against was not.  So the conference schedules would be more fair.  Reduce the size of the ACC and VT has to play every team once home and once away.  And if they finish above .500 they could at least be said to legitimately said to be one of the best teams in the conference.  

Reducing the size of the conference would also mean more conference champions.  More conference champions means less at large bids.  I don't think anyone would begrudge VT a bid if they played in a semi-decent conference with half the ACC teams and won the conference championship.  

Also, if you are in an 8 team conference with UNC and suddenly UNC sucks ass this year, your conference suddenly doesn't look so hot.  You can't fall back on the fact that you still have Duke.  So if you want an at-large bid, you will actually have to play a tough out-of-conference schedule.  This is why the mid-majors have to play bracket-busters every year.  It forces them to play a tough game, which is good.  Unfortunately, all it does is make them eliminate each other because the majors don't do them.  But now they might have to.  They'll have potentially fewer conference games overall and fewer "big win" potential within their conference.

But the main thing it does is prevent the big schools from ganging up together with all their $$$ and influence.  If Duke and UNC were in separate conferences, you'd have two lesser conferences working against one another, instead of one uber-conference jerking over everyone else.  Limiting conferences to 4 at-large bids forces schools to decide between keeping their rivalries and being in an awesome conference that everyone wants to see and makes a lot of money and gets the best recruits at the expense of having a tougher road to the NCAA's vs. being in a smaller conference where they can dominate but they will be big fish in a small pond.  As it is now, the big schools sacrifice nothing.  They get all the money, power, influence, and recruits AND they increase their chances of getting into the NCAA.  Which is why everyone wants to form the uber-conferences, and why the mid-majors get the shaft.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on March 08, 2010, 11:59:32 PM
Do you enjoy good soccer? ---yes--> Watch a different league.
                 |                                                   /\
               No                                                   |
                 |                                                    |
                \/                                                    |
Do you at least enjoy the spectacle of           |
good sport-- passionate fans,             --yes--|        
the drama of relegation, and a fair                |
schedule instead of crappy playoffs?             |
                 |                                                   No
               No                                                    |
                 |                                                     |
                \/                                                     |
Well then how about a league where at least everyone is equally broke and therefore everyone has an equal chance of winning, even if it resembles a lottery more than anything to do with talent and skill, instead of watching the same 2-3 teams win every year?
                  |
                Yes
                  |
                 \/
Watch MLS.  Proceed to pick team.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Nate on March 09, 2010, 12:36:45 AM
If you believe the rumors about the NFL and NBA lockouts, Soccer is set to make a huge splash in 2011.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on March 09, 2010, 12:59:02 AM
Only if there is no lockout or strike in MLS, which it looks like there might be and which would probably kill the league before it even gets to 2011.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on March 09, 2010, 08:04:49 AM
If you believe the rumors about the NFL and NBA lockouts, Soccer is set to make a huge splash in 2011.

Hahahaha. I heard that Chuck Klosterman theory as well and I couldn't stop thinking about it. I really don't think it'll come to that because there were a few too many "ifs" but I do agree Klosterman was on to something. I, however, thought that hockey and baseball would simply get big lifts too, taking away from the "hugeness" of soccer's splash.

The thing to remember is that if those lockouts happen, they need to happen for a long time b/c the euro soccer seasons are so long.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on March 12, 2010, 08:19:28 PM
http://www.hof.org.uk/showthread.php?t=2403&page=1
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on March 16, 2010, 02:54:40 PM
Have you ever been filling out your bracket for the office pool and found yourself shocked that somehow you've got Baylor in the Final Four and New Mexico in the Elite 8?





this is where someone who actually knows something about college basketball chimes in and tells me that, while maybe unconventional, those are solid and shrewd picks.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on March 16, 2010, 03:29:04 PM
This is a pretty wide open tournament this year.  Almost no dominant teams, but lots of good to very good ones.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on March 16, 2010, 04:12:32 PM
FG, I just listened to the Bill Simmons podcast where one of his knowledgable guests said Baylor could be a reasonable pick for the final four.

Feel better?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on April 02, 2010, 03:13:31 PM
Doesn't upping the tourney to 96 teams kill the NIT?  I can't imagine watching a tournament where seeds 97-128 compete for a title.

I keep seeing/hearing more and more about the NCAA Tournament getting "fixed" or expanded or whatever. Honestly - I think the NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament is probably the best thing that the NCAA does. Why are we "fixing" it at all? Leave it the way it is! It's wonderful!

Okay, I know there are problems and if we were addressing each problem individually it'd be an easy fix after easy fix. But addressing them all together at once... well, I think the best solution is a no-change solution. Maybe it's a little corporate... maybe it's a little favored toward big programs... maybe it leaves out too many teams... but really if those teams complain the rebuttal is simply: you should have won more.

Ugh. If the NCAA wants to focus its efforts on improving, there are countless other places to spend time and money on. How about the BCS? How about getting 'student athletes' to actually be students? There's so much...
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: scuba on April 03, 2010, 12:12:29 PM
Why are we "fixing" it at all? Leave it the way it is! It's wonderful!

$$$$$
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on April 04, 2010, 11:46:59 AM
Yeah, I know. It's sad.


Another random musing:

If Butler plays on Monday the way they did against MSU, Duke won the championship last night. Duke looked GREAT while Butler looked AWFUL. I can't believe they won that game, and I don't mean that in an excited way.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on April 05, 2010, 07:58:16 AM
Michigan State's defense makes a lot of teams look awful.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on April 05, 2010, 09:04:35 AM
H8gKmQ6Hrro
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on April 05, 2010, 09:16:15 AM
That's awesome.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poncho on April 05, 2010, 10:30:13 AM
Is the rest of the world catching on to the term "Soccer" or is this a show broadcast for the US?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on April 05, 2010, 06:19:22 PM
From the Cubs/Braves home-opener:
"He just CLEANED the SACKS!"
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on April 05, 2010, 06:59:15 PM
Is the rest of the world catching on to the term "Soccer" or is this a show broadcast for the US?

It's that Murdock SkySports shit. That and "Football A.M." as a show title has already been used in the UK
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on April 05, 2010, 08:38:50 PM
I laugh pretty hard at those dudes even when they aren't doing anything whacky.

Jeff Stelling is like a perfect between Bill O'Reilly and John McLaughlin, only British and talking about soccer.

"Issue #1:  Leeds applying the pressure to the Swindon defense, can they score?  CHRIS?!?"

"It's unbelievable Jeff!  I simply cannot believe it!  The Leeds players are running about the pitch, and the Swindon players are trying to stop them!  I don't know... SIMPLY UNBELIEVABLE!"

"Wrong!  You all had Special K with banana!"
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kwyjibo on April 06, 2010, 01:27:26 PM
"Wrong!  You all had Special K with banana!"

Where's C-Lando?  I nominate this for GSPoTD.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on April 06, 2010, 02:23:17 PM
"Wrong!  You all had Special K with banana!"

Where's C-Lando?  I nominate this for GSPoTD.
Oops. I didn't see it yesterday. Today is too late.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on April 07, 2010, 07:53:46 AM
Holy $#%!%(.

Lionel Messi.

Unbelievable.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on April 14, 2010, 09:38:29 AM
NBAFABO: LeBron sitting out the Cavs games until the playoffs. MUTHAFUNKER! I was really looking forward to finally seeing him play in person during tonights Hawks game. BOOOOOOOOOOOO! Teams should be required to put out their best, fit team. I get it...but, as a fan, I hate this crap.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on April 14, 2010, 02:14:35 PM
So sorry Lando. As a Cavs fan I've been suffering these last four games. I don't care that they didn't NEED to win them - I still wanted them too. And I don't want Bron and Shaq coming out in the playoffs all rusty, which they will be doing. I get that maybe you play them only 15 or 20 minutes, and I understand that you're concerned about injury, but COME ON! This is likely my last team to root for as a winner, so I want to effing win!

Ugh.

Sorry you're going to see a craptastic ball game. You should write Mike Brown a letter asking him to refund your tickets.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on April 15, 2010, 10:48:39 AM
So sorry Lando. As a Cavs fan I've been suffering these last four games. I don't care that they didn't NEED to win them - I still wanted them too. And I don't want Bron and Shaq coming out in the playoffs all rusty, which they will be doing. I get that maybe you play them only 15 or 20 minutes, and I understand that you're concerned about injury, but COME ON! This is likely my last team to root for as a winner, so I want to effing win!

Ugh.

Sorry you're going to see a craptastic ball game. You should write Mike Brown a letter asking him to refund your tickets.
Eh. We benched most of our starters as well. Gave some good playing time and experience to other guys who really stepped up to the plate and almost beat the Cavs by 20 points. The main thing that sucked was the vibe in the arena. You could tell that everyone knew the superstars were sitting out the game because there was no energy in that place. It was pretty disappointing.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on April 15, 2010, 02:16:43 PM
Nothing like going into the playoffs on a four game losing streak.

Good lord.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on May 06, 2010, 10:57:56 PM
Man, these FA bankruptcy rules suck ass.

I mean partly, I hate Portsmouth and want them to have a difficult time of things and think they are getting off too easy.  But beyond that, they just really, truly suck ass.

The regular staff who worked there answering calls or catering or cleaning or whatever get fired.  The taxpayers who have nothing to do with the club and maybe don't even like them get screwed out of tax money.   All the local business that helped them get through their day-to-day operations get 20p on the pound.

The multi-millionaire players who don't need extra cash and who did not deliver on their fat contracts get paid in full.  Even worse, the billionaire owners and board members who DEFINITELY don't need the cash and bear the lion's share of the blame for cocking things not only get paid in full, but also get to approve the CVA determining how and when they get paid.

If you made an ordered list of who deserves to get paid back and who most needs to get paid back, the list of who actually gets the cash is in the exact opposite order.  Tom Hicks wants to sell Liverpool for like a zillion dollars.  If no one buys, he just declares bankruptcy and walks away and the FA is stuck with it.  So the club and the league actually have to help Hicks put the finishing touches on screwing them and the fans over.  And if that weren't enough, he gets to pull the same scam with the Texas Rangers.

It's like, okay here's the rule.  You pay to watch us play or to show our games on TV.  We want a zillion dollars for that.  If you want to merely list our schedule or show the results, we want a zillion dollars for that, too.  Oh, and if we get relegated?  We want a zillion dollars.  And if we not only get relegated, but completely destroy the club by ruining its finances... we want a zillion dollars for that, too.  Oh, and if your team is working hard in League One or Two doing things the right way and putting together a fine club of cheap players through managerial skill and your fans are loyal they do well, guess what you get?  JACK SHIT. 

Then they wonder why they have such crappy owners. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on May 12, 2010, 02:38:25 PM
My favourite joke of the past 48 hours...

...breaking news.....a lottery winner has purchased Portsmouth FC. His delighted wife said 'God knows what he would have bought if he'd got 4 numbers'
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on May 13, 2010, 10:30:09 PM
My disc golf game has really gone in the crapper. 

We used to play on this course that wasn't really even a real course.  It was an old nature trail through the woods that people just stuck some baskets in.  The longest hole was maybe only 350'.  But the fairways were never more than 10' wide.  So every shot you had to laser through a narrow corridor, probably between a couple branches.  Or curve the disc perfectly through a twisty dogleg.  If you didn't, you were looking at a really, really tough shot just to pitch back into the clear and take your 4.

So when I was playing that course, I had no distance on my drive at all.  But I could put it wherever I wanted.  And my approaches were awesome.  Plus I had like every shot in the book.  I could throw hammers, grenades, rollers, pancakes, forehand, backhand, everything.  And I could control them too.  Like even a regular backhand I had like all sorts of hyzer angles and stuff.  And half the time you were just making up shots.  You'd have a foot in a bush, and some tree trunk limiting your range of motion and you'd just figure out some kind of weird throw.

Then we got a real disc golf course with wide open fairways and longer holes.  Now I can throw the disc 350'-375' easily, but I have no accuracy in anything anymore.  I don't even remember the last time I threw even a simple forehand.  I don't even trust it anymore.

Plus now I only get to play once a month so my puttings in the shitter as well.  When we first started playing this course, I used to play it around +2 to +5 playing every hole as a three.  Now I'm lucky to finish under double digits.  I might get one birdie a round.

I either need to start playing regularly again or retire from the sport, because it's not really that much fun anymore.  At least when I sucked on the old course it was still a pleasant walk through the woods.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Nate on May 13, 2010, 11:15:55 PM
Don't worry, Cleveland.  We don't hold you responsible for your team quitting during an elimination game which will ultimately determine the future of your basketball franchise for the next twenty years.  As a T-Wolves fan, I welcome you to the club.  Let's commiserate in misery together.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on May 13, 2010, 11:23:06 PM
If he goes to Chicago, I don't see how they don't win three or four titles.  He won't just finally have a "supporting cast," he'll actually BE the supporting cast.  Derrick Rose can carry that team.  LeBron just has to score a lot and Rose can take over in the clutch.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: frizgolf on May 14, 2010, 11:59:09 AM
My disc golf game has really gone in the crapper. 

We used to play on this course that wasn't really even a real course.  It was an old nature trail through the woods that people just stuck some baskets in.  The longest hole was maybe only 350'.  But the fairways were never more than 10' wide.  So every shot you had to laser through a narrow corridor, probably between a couple branches.  Or curve the disc perfectly through a twisty dogleg.  If you didn't, you were looking at a really, really tough shot just to pitch back into the clear and take your 4.

So when I was playing that course, I had no distance on my drive at all.  But I could put it wherever I wanted.  And my approaches were awesome.  Plus I had like every shot in the book.  I could throw hammers, grenades, rollers, pancakes, forehand, backhand, everything.  And I could control them too.  Like even a regular backhand I had like all sorts of hyzer angles and stuff.  And half the time you were just making up shots.  You'd have a foot in a bush, and some tree trunk limiting your range of motion and you'd just figure out some kind of weird throw.

Then we got a real disc golf course with wide open fairways and longer holes.  Now I can throw the disc 350'-375' easily, but I have no accuracy in anything anymore.  I don't even remember the last time I threw even a simple forehand.  I don't even trust it anymore.

Plus now I only get to play once a month so my puttings in the shitter as well.  When we first started playing this course, I used to play it around +2 to +5 playing every hole as a three.  Now I'm lucky to finish under double digits.  I might get one birdie a round.

I either need to start playing regularly again or retire from the sport, because it's not really that much fun anymore.  At least when I sucked on the old course it was still a pleasant walk through the woods.
I guess I'm lucky here in Cincy with all the choices for courses. I'm not very good in tournament play on wide open courses. It's almost like I need the trees to give me perspective. There's a really long, tight course in northern KY that demands constant concentration the whole round. The longest course around, it seldom gives you a chance to really huck the disc. I like that I have to keep my mind on my shot placement every throw. But my favorite by far is Mt. Airy (which just happens to be the closest to me) because it combines hills, tight shots and open spaces so well. You get that just-right balance of open shots to tight technical precision. It can be tiring to do the same shots the whole round, whether they're tight and technical or wide open steroid-boy monster throws.
You gotta watch who designs the course. Most are designed by individuals, so their biases are usually evident.
I'm bumming out because there's a tournament tomorrow at Mt. Airy and my back is twisted into knots right now. I need a miracle cure today.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on May 17, 2010, 12:32:59 AM
I am announcing my official boycott of all news items or op-ed pieces involving the Cleveland Cavaliers or LeBron James until he signs a new contract. Wherever that is. I just don't want to read about stuff we've been talking about forever. Get the thing done, LBJ, and then we can continue on with business as usual.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on May 17, 2010, 11:53:36 AM
How bitter will the Cleveland fans be toward him when he leaves?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on May 17, 2010, 01:02:29 PM
I'm not really sure. I don't hate the guy - he did wonders for our team and city and everyone loves him. I think they will be sad, but I can't really see them booing him. I think it'll be more like a Jim Thome thing - he left for greener pastures. We understand, even if it hurts a little inside. Personally I'm glad we had him for when we did and I hope we have him longer. I don't think we will, but I still hope.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on May 17, 2010, 03:12:04 PM
Unless the rumors are proven to be 100% categorically untrue in a way that I don't think is possible, the fans will forgive LeBron James... but Delonte West is finished. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on May 20, 2010, 10:02:33 AM
I wonder how long before some drunken lout mistakes the new London Olympic mascots faces for a toilet seat.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on May 20, 2010, 11:42:46 AM
I wonder how long before some drunken lout mistakes the new London Olympic mascots faces for a toilet seat.
At least they don't look like Lisa Simpson giving Bart head.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on May 23, 2010, 01:33:53 PM
Blackpool are up! fuckin' 'ell, that's brilliant. I am so pleased about that - Ian Holloway is such a nice bloke and probably one of the most entertaining people in football. I remember seeing him play a couple of times at QPR and he was always worth the entrance fee on the turnstiles. Hard little fucker, him. They'll probably nosedive next season in the Premiership, but it's great that they got there at all.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on May 23, 2010, 02:35:20 PM
I was happy for Brett Ormerod. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on May 23, 2010, 02:48:42 PM
I was happy for Brett Ormerod. 
Yeah, the prodigal son. Nice he took his local team up. Always liked him at Southampton, too.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on May 23, 2010, 03:00:43 PM
Speaking with my old man about footy earlier, got to thinking about our "fantasy" XI. Not the best, just our favourites. Mine was this:

Goalie:

Pat Jennings

Back Four:

Franz Beckenbauer
Julian Dicks
Phillipe Albert
Ledley King

Midfield:

Ossie Ardiles
Jamie Redknapp
Socrates
Paul Gascoigne

Forwards:

Jiri Stajner
Jurgen Klinsmann

Manager:

Sir Bobby Robson

To be fair, it's a shit team. three centre backs/Sweepers, four central midfielders with no sign of any wingers, and one striker who thrived on crosses. Great players, though.



Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on May 23, 2010, 03:07:28 PM
They are saying that the promotion Blackpool received was worth 90 million pounds. Can someone explain this to me? I get that they receive Premiership TV rights, but wouldn't the other EPL teams get the same amount? This sounds like it's worth more. How does this work?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on May 24, 2010, 12:18:19 AM
It's probably worth that to the city of Blackpool, moreso than the team itself
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on June 03, 2010, 02:09:26 PM
And Lando cries a little...even though the writing was on the wall.

Liverpool FC today confirmed that Rafael Benitez is to leave the club by mutual consent.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Nate on June 04, 2010, 12:10:22 AM
UCLA coach John Wooden is in 'grave' condition at hospital.  Dude's 99!

http://www.startribune.com/sports/gophers/95585249.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUUT
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on June 05, 2010, 07:21:31 AM
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii147/Eastleighsoulboy/Pompopoly.jpg)

Hahahahahahahahaha!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on June 23, 2010, 02:47:49 PM
This Isner-Mahmut match at Wimbledon is just nuts.  Its 48-47 in the fifth set.  That's not a typo.  Freaking 48-47!!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on June 23, 2010, 04:40:29 PM
59-59 and suspended for darkness.

Naturally, one of these guys is going to come out tomorrow, win 2 straight, and call it a day.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on June 23, 2010, 10:40:08 PM
Yeah, I bet someone in my office $5 that the match ends within 5 games tomorrow. 

I'm not sure, though.  If it were Federer-Nadal or something where it was a titanic mental struggle, I think both sides would come out gunning, which would lead to a quick resolution.  But the truth is, it's less a testament to the warrior spirit than a reflection of two guys with massive holes in their games.  They both have huge serves and are lousy at everything else.  Which makes it pretty hard to break a guy.


Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on June 24, 2010, 08:09:21 AM
Isner just looked annoyed by the end.  I think he loses.  He'll cave, one way or another.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on June 30, 2010, 12:31:28 PM
Kudos to Brent Sopel for participating in the Chicago Gay Pride Parade even though he is no longer even a Blackhawk. And to the Blackhawks for having the Stanley Cup flown in from LA so it was in the parade as well. And to the Cubs for sending their own float complete with Mr. Cub Ernie Banks.

Makes me glad to be a Cubs and Blackhawks fan.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on July 01, 2010, 12:07:55 AM
I also was appreciative that he did it in memory of Brendan Burke.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on July 01, 2010, 01:05:48 AM
Sopel is one of the classiest dudes in or out of pro sports so it's not surprising he volunteered to do the parade.  After he took the Cup on the parade, he took it to a bar in Wrigleyville where you could pay $10 to come in and see it and all the money went to charity.  For Halloween, he gives out Blackhawk tickets to kids.  For Christmas, he hosts military families.

My friend works at a big law firm in Chicago and they had a charity event and Brent Sopel participated.  He said Sopel showed up early, left late, signed autographs and talked to everyone.  And he brought his whole family and they all pitched in behind the scenes doing mundane stuff like setting up tables. 

Plus he adopted that kid after both his parents died.

He was also pretty huge for the Blackhawks this year.  Not the greatest talent in the world but works hard and not afraid to throw his body around to stop shots.  And he improved his skills this season as well and did a pretty decent job killing penalties.  I would have loved to have kept him, and I think he justifies his salary on pure financial level because all the PR/goodwill value he brings to the franchise with his off-the-field activities.  But because of salary cap restrictions, the Blackhawks really didn't have much choice.  He makes way too much for a 4th/5th defenseman.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on July 01, 2010, 10:08:57 AM
The Cavs are signing Byron Scott as their head coach. Isn't Byron Scott the dude who had not one but TWO teams completely quit on him during his previous coaching tenures? Jeeezus. Back to mediocrity.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on July 07, 2010, 07:30:55 PM
I can't wait for ESPN to suck in three dimensions instead of two.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on July 08, 2010, 09:55:20 PM
I always thought that most pro players were greedy and stupid, because once you have ridiculous amounts of money, why not go for your biggest personal goal, which in my mind was always winning a championship.  I have always been surprised that more athletes don't do exactly what LeBron, Wade, and Bosh just did.

It wasn't until just this moment that it fully dawned on me that winning a championship can be just as selfish and stupid a goal as a gigantic contract.  I've actually been pretty sympathetic to LeBron all these years because he stuck with Cleveland and a lousy organization.  It's not like I feel like he has to stay.  But he could have gone anywhere, and it would have been better than Miami.  And if he had gone to Miami, there could have been much more respectable reasons to do it than what seems to have driven him.  And if he had gone to Miami for stupid reasons, there were much more respectable ways to have handled it.

The lack of class and the way he took the absolute easiest way out is really kind of mind-boggling, and the weird thing is, I don't think LeBron even realizes it. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on July 09, 2010, 07:43:33 AM
I think the whole thing just made him look like one of the most selfish douches in sports history.  And this is in the NBA, which is a league of me-first, so that's hard to do.  Congrats, LeBron.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on July 09, 2010, 11:36:50 AM
The Cavs owner's response was a pretty childish and douchey thing too.  Oh, and completely delusional too.

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on July 09, 2010, 11:44:01 AM
The Cavs owner's response was a pretty childish and douchey thing too.  Oh, and completely delusional too.

The world has gone mad when the Knicks look like they are above it all.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on July 09, 2010, 11:56:33 AM
I actually thought Gilbert's response was kind of okay.  In a normal situation, it would be unprofessional and unclassy as hell but I kinda give him a pass under the circumstances.

But I think the fans needed to see that someone cares and that Gilbert wasn't just going to give up.  If he wants to save the franchise he really needed to do something a bit drastic. I'm sure he realizes that there is no way in hell Cleveland will win a championship before LeBron does, and that the words and tone he was using were unprofessional and over-the-top. 

I consider it kind of a pep talk for the fans.  You know, like it's not to cool to talk trash about the other team or insult your own players, but during half-time it's kind of okay because you need to get the team fired up.  So it was really a much-needed boost for the fans, and if it pisses LeBron off.. well, who gives a shit?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on July 09, 2010, 01:05:32 PM
As a Cavs fan, I'll say that although I knew Gilbert's letter was awful... I soaked up every word of it (well, I stopped reading 2/3 of the way through, but you know what I mean). Rva's right - it was just what I needed to hear at that moment.

Calling LBJ a coward and all that other stuff was unprofessional, but I liked it. The letter actually gives me a little bit of hope for another otherwise awful franchise even if I can't see any way that they will be relevant next year or any other year in the near future. Still - it IS nice to have some visibility from the owner and to feel like he's trying harder than we realize and doing what he can.

As I said before, hiring Byron Scott doesn't get me excited...but hey maybe they know what they are doing?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on July 09, 2010, 01:44:34 PM
Whether intentional or not, that letter was a stroke of genius.  It's unprofessional in the class sense, but in terms of "professional" meaning running a business and trying to keep customers, it was as professional as it gets.

I think that the fair-weatherish fans would be gone with LeBron regardless of what Gilbert did, so he has to concentrate on the loyal fans.  And those fans (rather unfortunately) are used to seeing their dreams get crushed by superstar talent triumphing over them in superstar transcendent ways and/or their likeable, good-but-not great players exposing their non-superstar flaws by making mistakes in critical moments.  So the "personal guarantee" (and I notice he left out any "or..." clause) was strictly an appeal to emotion, and that's exactly what needed to be done.

If you are a Cleveland fan, this has to fire you up that your franchise cares.  And if nothing else, you'll be more curious to see a game just to see how it all plays out.  And to the extent that non-Cleveland fans now think Gilbert's a douche... so what?  I wasn't throwing any money at the Cavs anyway.  And if anything, it puts a bit more of a chip on Clevelander's shoulders to root for their team and stick it to everyone who thinks they are a Mickey Mouse city with Mickey Mouse teams.

Controversy sells.  I honestly think that might have been the one move he could have made that could possibly save the franchise.  And even if he probably did it for his own purposes and is still an incompetent owner, in this case what was good for the franchise is also good for the fans and the city.  If I had thought of it, I think I would have written that letter too.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on July 09, 2010, 01:59:39 PM
You actually make me feel a little better about my team. Thanks for that. Hopefully they'll use their now-unspent money wisely instead of just throwing it at the best player and creating an awful contract.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on July 21, 2010, 10:30:46 AM
I really like being at the park during a rain delay.  There is a certain camaraderie fostered with other fans by huddling together under shelter and, usually, one in every three rainouts results in some chucklehead playing slip 'n' slide on the field (although, no such luck yesterday.) 

Last night was great.  They played a bunch of footage of the 1990 World Series, that B-Lark and the Homeboys song 5bwIPRUnQkU I haven't heard in twenty years and Friday's MC Hammer performance.  It was the right mix of nostalgia, poking fun and current team discussion that you usually don't find during a game with strangers. 


Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on July 21, 2010, 12:51:53 PM
I think i'm going to ignore the Premiership this season. Top flight footy in England is really on the cusp of death in my eyes. I will, however, look forward to following all the lower divisions. I love fat, unfit, journeyman donkeys with a bit of character :)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on July 21, 2010, 01:21:14 PM
Why do you think it's on the cusp of death? I thought it seemed like everyone is upgrading their rosters and bringing in talent? No?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on July 21, 2010, 01:24:45 PM
Of course, you're right. As an entertainment spectacle it will only get better. Until the money runs out. Then English football will be licking its wounds when it realises how far our game has regressed over the years (local-born talent-wise). I really do miss the game I grew up with. I felt far more conected to it before the money rolled in. I don't know, I miss footy pre-1992 :)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on July 21, 2010, 01:25:44 PM
Not a very articulate reply, that. I just rushed it. sorry Dan.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on July 22, 2010, 07:35:30 PM
I love this German bastard. Made Desmond Sinclair Walker look positively pedestrian, there! :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8Bx8Jc2HrQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8Bx8Jc2HrQ)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on July 22, 2010, 09:52:29 PM
The next coach of the US team.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on July 23, 2010, 08:02:31 AM
I'll believe it when I see it.  I am so looking forward to Ricardo Clark picking up another red card in a crucial World Cup game in 4 years.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on July 25, 2010, 05:11:44 PM
Pompey's perpetual cheating streak is beginning to nurture payback...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jul/25/portsmouth-pre-season-football

Hahahahahahahaha!!!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on July 26, 2010, 07:58:13 AM
Why in God's name would anybody want Portsmouth to come over and play them?  They can't be any kind of ticket draw.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on August 09, 2010, 08:49:10 AM
I don't think I've been this excited about a Reds game since Opening Day and that excitement was because it was a new season beginning.  This series with the Cards is the single biggest series Cincinnati baseball has had since...well, a really long fucking time.  My fingers are crossed around my lucky rabbit's foot hoping my boys have a strong (and happy) showing the next three days. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on August 13, 2010, 09:04:54 AM
According to various sources Bob Bradley has quit as manager of the US national team and is all set to become Aston Villa's new boss.

That's a REALLY bad idea and entirely down to an American owning the team.

So, championship football for Villa next season then?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on August 13, 2010, 09:11:35 AM
Color me totally not surprised.  I was really hoping that the Martin Jol rumors proved true.  Mark my words, though, no chance Villa gets relegated*. 

Things are starting well, at any rate.  I had a look at the table and we're in 2nd, only trailing Arsenal.  But, we can't afford to let up, not with Birmingham and Blackburn nipping our heels.






* if they somehow are relegated, expect this post to conveniently disappear in 10 month's time.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on August 13, 2010, 12:31:52 PM
Your +0 goal differential is very much indicative that you won't get relegated. Well done so far!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on August 13, 2010, 02:58:12 PM

That's a REALLY bad idea and entirely down to an American owning the team.


I just re-read that and am wondering if I reading your intentions correctly.  Are you saying that the over-riding reason why Bradley would be considered for the position is because he and the owner share a common citizenship?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on August 13, 2010, 04:00:11 PM

That's a REALLY bad idea and entirely down to an American owning the team.


I just re-read that and am wondering if I reading your intentions correctly.  Are you saying that the over-riding reason why Bradley would be considered for the position is because he and the owner share a common citizenship?

Correct.

Yes he has reasonably succesful track record, but with all due respect Bradley will have NO idea of life in the Premiership nor the UK media fascination with the Prem managers and the levels of intrusion into his decisions and personal life. It's an opinion but he will be way out of his depth. For your sake I hope Sven looms large in Villa's future plans rather than Bradley.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on August 16, 2010, 09:43:18 AM
In the interest of sports related selfishness, I very quietly rooted for the Cubs a little bit this weekend. 

What's protocol in these situations?  Should I send them a fruit basket or would a simple "thank you" card suffice?

On a related note, Cordero has to be the most exciting athlete in the MLB, if not all of sports.  People who call baseball boring need only sit through one of his outings.  He's a true showman, adding drama where you were sure drama wasn't needed.  Tension, turmoil and conflict where there should have a smooth path to victory.  He's a Indy car passing the checkered flag doing airborne barrel rolls at 300 mph. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: MissKitty on August 18, 2010, 02:18:07 PM
Cordero is too tough on my fingernails.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on August 19, 2010, 08:36:44 AM
As heard on the local sports talk station yesterday on my drive back from work:

"Legally speaking, isn't there anyway the Reds give Volquez back to the Rangers and have Josh Hamilton returned?  No?  Well, what about trading Volquez for Carpenter?  No?  What if we packaged Harang with him?"
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: mik on August 19, 2010, 10:25:01 AM
There you go Reds fans, my Brewers did their part to help the Reds increase their lead on the Cardinals. However I can't make any promises for the Brewers laying down during the upcoming series with the Reds at the end of the month........
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on August 19, 2010, 12:02:19 PM
We beat the Cards *and* laid down for the Reds.  And we'll do it again.

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kwyjibo on August 19, 2010, 01:59:00 PM
Feds to Indict Roger Clemens (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/20/sports/baseball/20clemens.html?_r=1&hp)

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.  Poor fella, hope he enjoys federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on August 19, 2010, 06:34:17 PM
First Bundesliga games of the season, this weekend. cherundolo is the new captain. I will be amused if beergut-wielding germans turn up to the stadium bedecked in captain america uniforms to mark the occasion.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kwyjibo on August 20, 2010, 07:44:14 AM
First Bundesliga games of the season, this weekend. cherundolo is the new captain. I will be amused if beergut-wielding germans turn up to the stadium bedecked in captain america uniforms to mark the occasion.

Is this in code?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on August 20, 2010, 08:00:17 AM
First Bundesliga games of the season, this weekend. cherundolo is the new captain. I will be amused if beergut-wielding germans turn up to the stadium bedecked in captain america uniforms to mark the occasion.
SW00N!!!!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on August 20, 2010, 09:02:58 AM
First Bundesliga games of the season, this weekend. cherundolo is the new captain. I will be amused if beergut-wielding germans turn up to the stadium bedecked in captain america uniforms to mark the occasion.

Man, I sure hope so. That would be one of the greatest things ever. Possibly greater than Mike Gundy yelling, "I'M 40! I'M A MAN!"
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on August 24, 2010, 05:18:04 PM
First Bundesliga games of the season, this weekend. cherundolo is the new captain. I will be amused if beergut-wielding germans turn up to the stadium bedecked in captain america uniforms to mark the occasion.
SW00N!!!!
We won! Shit game and no sign of bulbous Captain America in the crowd, but I did see a bearded gentleman dressed as a Valkyrie brandishing both beer and a beergut. Cherundolo had a quiet game, but Hannover did ok with what are, in all honestly, severely limited resources. Good times!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on August 31, 2010, 08:47:53 AM
Bradley out as O'Neill's replacement at Aston Villa.  No new developments with Sven Goran Eriksson or Jol, but Moyes @ Everton is leading the rumo(u)r pack.

Soccer fans: set your decoder rings to U-21 to break the Kwyjibo Confusion code.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kwyjibo on August 31, 2010, 08:48:53 AM
Wait... U is 21?  I think you just blew my mind.   ???
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on August 31, 2010, 03:55:59 PM
Seems like fully 90% of hardcore US Soccer fans are ready to head over the cliff at the USSF keeping Bradley on as head coach of the USMNT. 

I'm not quite there, but if Ricardo Clark is on the 2014 team, I may drive to Rio over the space of a week and beat him to death myself.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on September 01, 2010, 08:44:32 AM
GREAT MOMENTS IN MY BASEBALL ACUMEN

Last night at the Reds game, while Aroldis Chapman was warming up, I turned to Mrs. Foolsgold and said, "Don't be surprised if he gets shelled tonight.  He looks nervous as hell and his throws are all over the place."

Just a 1-2-3 inning with a strikeout.

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on September 01, 2010, 10:57:51 AM
So what's the early opinion on the Reds' big Cuban capture from this winter? I didn't even know he was with the big league club.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on September 01, 2010, 11:23:07 AM
They just called him up yesterday.  My opinion is that he could easily be a dominant closer, but would need a ton of work to be a starter and not sure if he would make it.  He throws over 100 mph, but he has control issues and doesn't have enough quality pitches and had trouble working deep into games when he was starting.

If I were the Reds, I'd probably trade him in the offseason for a quality starter, but not sure if they have the payroll flexibility.

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: mik on September 01, 2010, 01:53:17 PM
I heard Chapman described as "unhittable". 2 of the 3 batters he faced last night grounded out. That's not "unhittable" is it? They didn't get a hit but they did hit the ball........
Brewers are calling up a young pitcher that also throws in the 100's - Jeremy Jeffress. Speaking of 100's, he started out the season on a 100 game drug suspension.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: scuba on September 01, 2010, 03:52:25 PM
In his last 10 outings (10.1 innings) in AAA as a reliever he struck out 19, only walked three, gave up 4 hits and 2 earned runs.  No one can say what he'll end up like as a starter, he's only 22 years old, but for now that's damn good.  The relevant question for the moment is can he even come close to reproducing that performance in the league during a pennant race and the playoffs.  And consider that whatever he gives them is a luxury, a bonus, their bullpen was doing just fine without him.

The most likely model for his future is David Price with the Tampa Bay Rays, he was brought up as a young flame throwing left-hander to provide late inning depth in the bullpen the year Tampa Bay made the World series in 2008.  They brought him along slowly as a starter in 2009 and this year he's been one of the best pitchers in the league.  Will Chapman follow that same timetable, probably not, but it's not a bad blueprint to work from.  I was impressed...
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on September 01, 2010, 04:48:38 PM
Selling him off before he blows out his arm... sounds like a strategic plan. Not sure if there's an actual realistic value for him, though? Everyone probably has their own ideas and getting two teams to agree might be a challenge.

Still - good for the Reds. I'm happy to hear their success.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on September 01, 2010, 11:01:06 PM
Yeah, it's nothing against Chapman.  He is still one of the best prospects in MLB, if not THE best now that Strasburg had TJ.  Young pitchers are just risky is all, as shown by Strasburg.

The way I see it, Chapman is likely to experience some growing pains next season and the Reds will probably want to cap his innings at 175, max.  So he's not ready to be an ace, which is the one thing the Reds really need.  They went straight from "promising young team" to "win now" with a bunch of attractive prospects to trade. 

I would totally give up Ryan Dempster for Chapman and if I were the Reds, I'd rather have Ryan Dempster for next year as he is on a reasonable contract and would immediately become the Reds' best and most consistent starter.   Not that I would actually make that trade if I were the Reds, because I think they could do better.  But something like that.  They have a ton of guys who could be good, but no one you'd feel comfortable that you could just write in for 200 innings of 3.80-ish ERA.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: scuba on September 01, 2010, 11:46:53 PM
I gotta disagree, Dempster currently makes more money than any Reds pitcher and if you look at the numbers Bronson Arroyo and Johnny Cueto have both had better years.  With the depth of good young pitching they have I don't think getting an "ace" is really necessary.  To me win now means win this year, they have a legitimate chance to make the World Series.  Next year will be a different situation, I don't see them bringing back both Arroyo and Harang, one or the other but not the two of them (my money is on them cutting Harang loose).  I don't think they're expecting Chapman to be an ace next year (his innings will more likely capped at 150 rather than 175) and again with the depth of pitching they have in the organization as a whole, not just the majors, I don't see the need to go get a #1 starter.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on September 02, 2010, 01:11:26 AM
Bronson Arroyo and Johnny Cueto are the reason they need a guy like Dempster.  They have both been insanely lucky this year, particularly Arroyo.  Arroyo has a .241 BABIP which is completely out-of-whack with the rest of his career and the average rate for a pitcher.  Dempster strikes out an extra 4 batters a game and has the same GB rate as Arroyo.  The difference is that Dempster has a league-average .300-ish BABIP. 

According to Fangraphs, Arroyo has an XFIP of 4.62, Cueto is at 4.36 and Dempster is at 3.94.  So in terms of skill, Dempster is unquestionably better than either of them by quite a bit.  And Arroyo's not getting any younger.  TBH Cueto has only ever had one really good stretch of games for a few months back in 2008 and has been pretty average since then.  Unlike Arroyo, Cueto has shown the ability to dominate for stretches and is still young.  He may or may not become an ace, but even where he is now is still pretty decent and it seems reasonable to expect him to improve at least a little.  His problem is more whether he can be counted on for 200 innings.  He's a small guy with a bad motion.

Again, I wouldn't actually get Dempster.  He's been very consistent since he became a starter but he slipped a tiny bit this year and at 33 he is probably in decline-- albeit the beginning stages and so far a very slow one.  He only has two more years left on his contract so he wouldn't stick the Reds with a huge bill, but there's still no point in getting him if he's not going to post a 3.80 or under ERA.  The Reds could probably do better for their prospects if they have the payroll flexibility to pay a top notch starter.

Basically, the Reds season this year is a factor of Votto playing like a God (which is likely not to change), a weak NL Central (which only hurts their overall record, they would still be the best team in the division), and a huge amount of luck.   There is not a single member of that rotation who surface stats are not significantly better than what their skills would indicate.

I think the backend of the rotation is fine.  Leake does not have a huge upside, but he's kind of crafty.  He was somewhat lucky for most of the season, but then again his late-season suckiness is easily explained by him maybe running out of gas and hitters making adjustments.  He should be decent next year.  Out of the Cueto/Bailey/Leake/Wood group, they should be okay in slots 3-5.  The offense is scary good.  All they lack is a veteran 200 IP frontline guy-- not an ace, solid borderline AS-type.  I think they have Harang's contract coming off the books so they should be able to pay someone $13 million a year.  Maybe they could find a guy via free agency, but if they trade Chapman they could have the same rotation as this year only with Dempster instead of Harang.  Except they want to find a 30 year old or younger version of Dempster, not the real-life 33 yo model.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on September 02, 2010, 07:41:24 AM
Due respect, I think the fans would riot if they traded Chapman unless they got a bonafide ACE starter out of it straight up for him, and I'm talking like Cliff-Lee-before-he-went-to-the-Rangers type of starter.

I think the thing you are not taking into account when discussing Arroyo's vast "luck" this year with his BABIP against, is that the Reds defense is so much improved this year.  Aside from left field, the Reds have at or near gold glove caliber defending at every position.  They have turned some amazing plays this year, and I'm sure that's to explain at least some of Arroyo's low BABIP.

But I have to agree that at some point the Reds are going to have to fish or cut bait with some of these prospects.  I definitely think the offseason will be a great time to try and parlay 3 or 4 of these into a #1 starter.  I don't know who they'd target, but I would definitely be for packaging some prospects or even getting rid of Brandon Phillips to get one.  I am kind of hoping that Yonder Alonso looks like a beast in September, so the Reds can use him as a feature candidate in a potential pitching trade.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on September 02, 2010, 11:42:56 AM
Assuming the Reds defense is really that good (which it isn't; I'm in it's definitely very good but it's not far and away the best defense ever assembled in a way that totally revolutionizes the game, which is what it would have to be) that would be still be taken into account by XFIP.

Given the same set of league average fielders, Dempster should theoretically post a 3.94 ERA and Arroyo would have a 4.76 ERA.  Therefore if the Reds defense can save Arroyo a full run per game, I don't see why they wouldn't knock close to the same amount off Dempster's XFIP as well.  So being conservative, you could reduce Dempster's ERA by .75 to Arroyo's 1.00 and it would still give him a 3.20 ERA to Arroyo's 3.76.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on September 02, 2010, 01:58:47 PM
I don't know what xFIP is, but I'm sure it's some super-awesome totally revolutionary measure that all stat geeks enjoy.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on September 02, 2010, 03:59:04 PM
If Mike Brown ran the Reds, Nyjer Morgan would be at the top of his dream acquisitions list right now.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on September 06, 2010, 07:06:48 PM
My fantasy team went 3-43 today.  If you think about it, that's pretty damn impressive.  There are not many players who bat below Mendoza playing on teams, much less playing a regular role.  You could purposely try and field the worst fantasy team possible using BOTH leagues and still spend a long time trying to match a 3-43 day.  You'd get a lot of 1 for 15's and stuff, maybe but not 3 for 43.

What's even more amazing is that I managed to accomplish this feat with the NL leader in BA (Omar Infante) and 5th place batter (Martin Prado).  And pretty much withOUT the NL's worst batter by far in Mark Reynolds (who is on my team but went only 0-1).  The odds if this happening have to be less than 1 in 1,000.  Possibly less than 1 in 10,000.  So you know, like some people beat the odds and win $10,000 in the lottery.  I beat the odds by having my fantasy team bat .069.






Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on September 13, 2010, 03:59:32 PM
Stewart Mandel wrote today about Ohio State Buckeyes football:

"Going back to last November, the Buckeyes have now beaten four top 15 opponents (Iowa, Penn State, Oregon and Miami) in their past six games."


NNNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICE!!!!!!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on September 14, 2010, 12:34:00 AM
Chick watching Monday Night Football:  Is "Tangerine Island" a real place?!?*



*Tangier Island is maybe 50 miles from Richmond and part of Virginia.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on September 14, 2010, 10:03:16 AM
Tangerine Island sounds like a heavenly place full of sunshine, beaches, warmth, and orange colored cocktails.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on September 14, 2010, 10:04:46 AM
Whatever, Jimmy Buffet.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on September 22, 2010, 01:05:36 PM
I wonder if someone at the BBC has things on their mind other than cricket.

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b196/floatsinspace/bbc-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on September 22, 2010, 02:38:29 PM
The name Ijaz Butt creates its own jokes.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on September 27, 2010, 12:12:40 PM
Heeee... David Hirschey talking about the Arsenal vs West Brom game this weekend and hammering Arsene Wenger for his team's poor showing:

Linkety (http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/news/_/id/5621310/reviewing-wild-weekend-premier-league)

Quote
I'm not sure what inspired Wenger to field an all-French defense; then again, I'm not sure why anybody, anywhere, would use the words "French" and "defense" in the same sentence. But the Arsenal back four of Bacary Sagna, Sebastien Squillaci, Laurent Koscielny and Gael Clichy made West Brom's attack look like the fabled Brazilian juggernaut of the 1970 World Cup.

Good times.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: cuddlyevil on September 29, 2010, 10:38:45 AM
When I saw this headline: "Jaguars pick up Trent Edwards" all I could think of was "Good luck".
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on October 06, 2010, 03:22:44 PM
I suspect Orlando Cabrera has run afoul of some Amazonian head shrinking tribe:

(http://cincinnati.metromix.com/content_image/full/2227571/560/370)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on October 06, 2010, 03:39:57 PM
Arroyo just needs a pipe and he'll be ready to solve some crimes.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on October 13, 2010, 10:23:48 AM
Nice job Montengro. Little Montenegro down on the Adriatic Sea!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on October 27, 2010, 09:58:38 AM
The Miami Heat = WEAK SAUCE
Nine points in the first quarter? To quote Charles Barkley, that's "turrible".
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on October 27, 2010, 12:29:11 PM
I loved that result. 

Sadly I also know that in the long run...that game is so miniscule in the big picture. They probably only have to win 40 games or so to make the playoffs.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on October 27, 2010, 09:52:57 PM
I didn't see any of the game, but I can only imagine that they played their hearts out to earn this one.

So with that said, I would like to point out that the Cavs have started their season better than the Heat... against the same opponent.

(Yes, I know, it won't last, but still...I'm going to revel in the shortsighted victory while I can.)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on October 28, 2010, 07:50:55 AM
The Cavs did play well.  I'm impressed with the growth of JJ Hickson.  When I saw him 2 years ago, he looked like a throwaway draft pick that would be cut inside a year.  But he has become a good scorer and an important piece of the team.

They were shooting a few too many 3's, but they looked like a solid playoff team last night from the 2 quarters I saw.

What the Heat are going to have to deal with is that they're going to be like a #1 team in college football or basketball in every game.  They are always going to get their opponent's A-game... who wouldn't want to take it to the supposed pre-emptive NBA champions?

And frankly, James, Wade, and Bosh have never seemed all that driven by winning to want to rise up and take it to the other team in every game in the way that Jordan and the Bulls did when they were winning 72 games that one season.  I think the Heat could easily lose 20-25 games this year, and if the Celtics stay healthy I would have to pick them to win the East.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on October 28, 2010, 11:03:17 AM
I think the Heat will be able to win 55-60. James and Wade are just that good. I don't know much about Bosh, but I don't think it matters. After watching a LOT of James on the otherwise mediocre Cavs the past two years, I know that he does like winning and he doesn't need much help.

Granted, they are not MJ and the Bulls, so you're right about the competitive drive issue. As the season goes along they will get have a steeper improvement curve than most teams and will eventually be pretty dominant. Then toward the end of the season they will have locked up their spot in the playoffs and sit the big three, losing a bunch of games in the process.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on October 28, 2010, 11:37:05 AM
After watching a LOT of James on the otherwise mediocre Cavs the past two years, I know that he does like winning and he doesn't need much help.

You still say that after watching their last 2 playoff games last year?

I am sure he likes winning, but liking it and being driven by it are 2 different things.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on October 28, 2010, 11:46:12 AM
Touche, good sir.

I'm in the camp that believes SOMETHING happened behind the scenes around that time which caused James to want out. I don't know what it was - Delonte West sleeping with his mom is an entertaining rumor - but it clearly changed the dynamic of the team. So if I'm going to think about the last 2 playoff games last year, I tend to think of a lot more than just basketball and winning.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on October 30, 2010, 09:29:56 PM
I don't care how liberal you are, or how much you hate him-- George Bush is the best first-pitch thrower outer ever.   Most guys just hope not to embarrass themselves.  Bush not only doesn't embarrass himself, I would say that for those few brief seconds, Bush is actually the coolest guy on the entire planet.

I mean, he's so good that the mere act of throwing the ball suddenly fills me with American pride.    I'm like "Hells yeah, Bush!  U-S-A!"  That's how freaking good he is.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: frizgolf on October 30, 2010, 10:19:57 PM
And he throws friggin strikes.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on October 31, 2010, 12:07:46 AM
Not just in the strike zone, but they've got a little zip to them; more than you'd expect considering his age, non-professional status, and how casually he seems to flip it.  Did you see Nolan Ryan today?  He bounced one that was almost a wild pitch.  You would think if anyone could look cool throwing a first pitch it'd be Nolan Ryan, but Bush has him beat by a lot.
 
William and Mary lost to UNC today.  I'm pretty sure they would have won that game had their #1 stud offensive player not been knocked out with a concussion.  I still won a pile of money on that game.  The spread was 21 1/2 points, are you kidding me?  I bet on the spread, on the over/under, on UNC's over/under, the halftime over/under, W&M to lose by <10 and W&M to win.  I only lost the last bet.

I think they need to stop playing these games.  I have to give props to the ACC for not being afraid to play the CAA schools but I wouldn't blame them for not doing it in the future.  It only hurts their strength of schedule even if they win, and if they lose it's disaster.  And even for the CAA teams, the game pretty much doesn't count one way or the other, plus there's a playoff system in I-AA anyway.  The CAA teams play a tough enough schedule without having to play a Division I-A team.  JMU beat a ranked VA Tech team, but it did nothing for them.  The CAA schedule is chewing them up.  CAA/ACC matchups are tough games for both sides with no benefits.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on November 01, 2010, 12:32:25 AM
Bush did it again tonight. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on November 02, 2010, 10:56:17 PM
So William and Mary's first-string QB, second-string QB, super-stud RB, and starting TE are all out.  They will be using a red-shirt freshman QB, facing #10 University of New Hampshire.  And they dropped a spot in the rankings after losing by four to a team favored to win by 21 1/2 points.

Remind me why we play these 1-A games again?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on November 03, 2010, 01:30:39 PM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: va-vacious on November 03, 2010, 09:06:33 PM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

x2
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kenneth Toilethole on November 05, 2010, 07:40:09 AM
RIP George. First Ernie, then Bob Probert, now this.

*sigh*
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on November 13, 2010, 10:52:10 AM
I wonder what it is like not to support a team that habitually throws away a win in the final minutes of a game.

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on November 13, 2010, 01:04:25 PM
But its in the referees handbook that Manure are fully allowed to equalise or win a game in the dying minutes
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on November 13, 2010, 05:36:08 PM
My friend bowled a 291.  We found out he bowled a 291 because when we went to the alley today, they had his score posted in H-U-G-E letters across an entire side of lanes for being the top scorer.  Which means every time he bowls there, he will have to be reminded that he bowled a 291.  And every time we bowl there, we will laugh that he bowled a 291.  And every time any of hundreds of other people bowl there, they will think "Wow.  I wonder about that guy bowled a 291?"  And because it's really not very easy to bowl a 291, that score will likely be up there for at least a year until they reset the scoreboard.

Of course he didn't tell us he bowled a 291  but of course, we called him.  And you can bet that any of his friends will seek opportune moments to remind him that he bowled a 291.  He will have to live with that until he somehow manages to beat a 291, which might be never.

The thing is, 291 is a pretty freaking awesome score.  Moreover, he apparently did it in his big money league championship.  They only won by 5 pins, and earned $200 a piece by doing so, so his performance was actually pretty clutch.  If he'd bowled a 287, everyone would be like "Wow man, you bowled a 287!!  That's awesome!  And you won the championship!"  Instead everyone is like *chortle* "Nice 291" *chortle*.  It's perverse, but 291 might actually be the worst possible score in bowling.*




*For those who don't bowl, there is only one possible way to bowl a 291.  You have to throw 11 straight strikes and then get a 1 with your last ball.  Also, this guy bowls anchor so the pressure is on him every frame to keep his team in it, especially the last frame.  It's not easy to throw two strikes in the tenth frame knowing your team needs them to win.  It's even harder to do with a perfect game on the line.  Somehow, he did it.  Then with the team victory assured, all he had to do was get that last strike.  A 299 with a ringing ten, or a 298 with a 7-10 or even Nixons, you can curse the fates and everyone will be sympathetic.  A 297 or 296, you might have just missed the pocket and people would see it maybe a bit of nerves but still a great game.  A 291 is hard to look at as anything other than a MASSIVE (if understandable) choke.  I have to think that at as soon as he released it, he knew he had totally screwed up and at that point you are actually hoping for a gutter.  No one has to know how you got the 290, but a 291 EVERYONE knows.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on November 14, 2010, 10:06:42 AM
It's utterly delusional, but I can't help it.  The 15 year old kid in me who was hoisting game winning three pointers (assisted by Jordan and over Tom Chambers) in my driveway can't help but think "I can still probably do that" when watching most sporting events.  Although I could never hit worth shit, that fact doesn't stop me from allowing myself a brief daydream about being the wily veteran hitting a base clearing, game winning triple in the bottom of the ninth on a 3-2 count after fouling off 11 pitches. 

Of course, I'd climb over a wall of Spanish defenders to crisply head the ball into the back of the net for the United States' first World Cup title.

Oh, I'd juke past Revis, fly by Overchkin and lap Jimmy Johnson.

It's why, whenever I play a sports videogame, I still create a "me" superstar.  It's sad and pathetic, you'll get no argument.

And despite being a 98 pound weakling who runs away from conflict like faster than my grandmother in law inhales Golden Corral's "coconut" "shrimp," I always thought that, given the right circumstances, I'd do alright in the ring.  My police league champion grandfather taught me a bit when I was kid, so if not being more interested in lighting things on fire with a magnifying glass, I obviously would have been the Great White Hope.  At least, that was what I'd think when I'd watch boxing matches.

Then, last night, I watched the Pacquiao fight.  I'm not saying Margarito is a terrific fighter anymore, but Manny's speed and ring movement was unreal.  Last night, there in LaBulge's living room, my mind started tallying up what kind of a shot I would stand.  Then, he landed a six punch combo on the hapless Mexican all within the span of about a half of a second and that pretty much told me all I needed to know.  Margarito's face looped like bloody cauliflower, mine would've been on the mat staring up at my somehow still standing body with a look of "what the fu..."

 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on November 19, 2010, 02:57:15 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/ncf/news/story?id=5824661

This is retarded. If your venue cannot hold the field appropriately, you shouldn't have the game there. Is that really that hard? If you want to have a Northwestern vs Illinois game in Chicago at a large and "neutral" field, I'm sure there are plenty of other places it would work. Hell, Soldier Field or whatever it's called now is probably ready to go.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poncho on November 19, 2010, 04:20:37 PM
What a bunch of nancies!  WHINERS!  Padded end zones are dangerous to players?


Tell them to watch any Arena game, it happens a dozen times a night.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: trixi on November 19, 2010, 06:39:31 PM
Seriously, that is insane.  As the article notes, this was planned well in advance, it's not like a last-minute decision.  And while I know that baseball players aren't usually going face first into that outfield wall, they do go crashing into the ivy with no padding on either the wall or their bodies, unlike these apparently wimpy football players with all their helmets and pads.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on November 19, 2010, 10:02:55 PM
I don't want Matt Szczur to be too hurt to play against Delaware tomorrow because he's freaking awesome, and William and Mary needs Villanova to beat Delaware.

But I don't want Matt Szczur to be like totally healthy, because I don't think William and Mary (or anyone else) can beat Villanova if Szczur is healthy.

But I don't want Matt Szczur to be hurt too badly either, because he's a promising OF for the Cubs.

But I don't want Matt Szczur to be healthy, because if he's healthy and has a monster playoffs, he'll probably get drafted to play in the NFL.  Then he might not play for the Cubs.

Matt Szczur, why do you torment me?  I'm not even sure how to say your last name!








Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on November 20, 2010, 09:49:00 AM
I watched the Arsenal-Tottenham match this morning. I used it to see if I really did care about Tottenham at all, and although I still don't have any REAL reason to root for them I was doing so pretty much the whole game. I'm still looking for a team or reason more substantial than this in the EPL, but I'll take it for now.

And despite the fabulous outcome, the most impressive play in my book was Samir Nasri's incredibly crafted goal to open the scoring.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on November 20, 2010, 09:05:22 PM
I secretly like Tottenham, but I will never root for them as long as Redknapp is in charge.

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on November 21, 2010, 10:36:38 PM
Actually that's one of my problems. Just the other day I was saying to someone that I like Tottenham but hate Redknapp. So where does that leave me? I still haven't figured it out.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on November 22, 2010, 11:13:23 AM
Tottingham have some good players *cough*Bale*cough* but 'Arry is a cunt.

End of.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on November 22, 2010, 01:04:56 PM
Actually that's one of my problems. Just the other day I was saying to someone that I like Tottenham but hate Redknapp. So where does that leave me? I still haven't figured it out.

Spurs have been my english team since 1979, Dan. I have supported Hannover for 18 years, going at least twice a season even though i no longer live in Germany, but i'll always have a soft spot for the yids. They have in that time always been mediocre, but they play pretty football. That's what matters to Spurs fans. These past two seasons have seen them become something more and it's fun to watch. I understand the reaction to Redknapp from CR, RVA and yourself. He's a fucking crook at the end of the day, and his training sessions usually involve him reading the racing post. That aside, he's done a great job at The Lane. you don't have to support the team to enjoy them. Christ, I even enjoyed watching Arsenal this weekend. they were brilliant :)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on November 22, 2010, 01:16:34 PM
I wonder what it is like not to support a team that habitually throws away a win in the final minutes of a game.

The MIGHTY Gills! Come on mate, it's character building!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on November 30, 2010, 04:23:59 PM
Holy $#%!%(.

Lionel Messi.

Unbelievable.


Holy $#%!%(.

Barcelona 5-0.


Unbelievable.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on November 30, 2010, 04:48:49 PM
I wonder what it is like not to support a team that habitually throws away a win in the final minutes of a game.

The MIGHTY Gills! Come on mate, it's character building!
As a supporter, I'm building lots of character this year.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on December 02, 2010, 11:41:17 AM
Qatar, really? I actually thought that considering the competition USA had the world cup bid locked up. Instead we get a place that no one knows how to pronounce correctly.

I do admit the renderings for their proposed stadia were really cool. Some more so than others, but I give the 9 of them an overall thumbsup. Too bad stadia are a terrible basis for future growth and economic stimulus. I know they are talking about dismantling some and giving them to needy countries, but I'm going to be skeptical of that plan until I actually see it.

Oddly enough, I actually have been to Qatar. If walking on the tarmac and transfering in their airpoint counts, at least. I did make sure to look around as much as I could, though.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on December 02, 2010, 12:14:35 PM
You knew the US was screwed as soon as we were rated a "medium" security risk.  The rest of the world dislikes us and the idea of rich old US a-holes who don't even care about soccer hosting the World Cup.  And we didn't bribe enough.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on December 02, 2010, 12:21:02 PM
That's going to be a fun June-July in one of the hottest places on Earth.  Even with air conditioned stadia, not a lot of outdoor events nearby will be taking advantage of the atmosphere, I imagine.

Score one for bribery.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on December 02, 2010, 04:27:20 PM
Yeah, I mean it's total BS.  But I still like it.

I'm not mad that the US didn't get it because I can't come up with a good reason why the US deserves the World Cup.  There are other countries that haven't hosted it as recently as we have, have the resources to pull it off, and like soccer a lot more. 

Plus, it's a waste of taxpayer money so I don't even want the US to get it in the first place.

I want to see if Russia and Qatar can pull it off.  Qatar especially could either end up insanely awesome or an unmitigated disaster.  So that's more interesting to me than the US getting it and then hosting some games in already existing generic American football stadiums we see every week.

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on December 02, 2010, 06:04:13 PM
Those are good points. I suppose the reasons I thought the US should get it were: a) I want to go to the games and have fun. I'll be in my early 40s - how many 'later' World Cups will I be able to do that? b) even though they are generic stadia that we see every week, I don't think massive amounts of money should be thrown into building new ones for this event, and the fact that we have them already is a good thing. It'd be LESS money spent if it was here than in Qatar.

Of course the counter is that in Qatar it's not my (our) money, so why should I care?

In 2022 CONCACAF will have gone the longest of any region without hosting. I know there's only 3 legit locales to host in this region, but still.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on December 03, 2010, 12:51:01 AM
Don't get me wrong.  If the US had gotten it I would have been psyched on a personal level and would definitely attend.

One of the bitter twists in my life was that the world cup came to the US and they played games at RFK, a mere subway ride from where I was staying at the time.... and that was the summer I spent in Europe.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on December 03, 2010, 08:25:24 AM
One of the bitter twists in my life was that the world cup came to the US and they played games at RFK, a mere subway ride from where I was staying at the time.... and that was the summer I spent in Europe.

Me too!  I was in England and Italy for most of the month of that World Cup.  I think I was back for the game against Brazil.

But on the plus side, that also meant that I was in Europe for the OJ chase and stuff, so I never really cared about that as much as everyone else seemed to.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on December 08, 2010, 10:52:51 PM
Five things I would refuse to teach my kids via  sports in the unlikely event I have some:

1)  Fundamentals
2)  Hustle
3)  Passing
4)  "Intangibles"
5)  Handling pressure

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on December 09, 2010, 08:40:44 AM
That shouldn't be a problem.  They should be fine as long as you teach them grit, chemistry, the "it" factor and how best to give 110%..
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on December 09, 2010, 11:55:17 AM
HEY RVA!!!

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=850935&sec=transfers&cc=5901

Check it out! Your favorite player is finally getting a chance at his dream.


Quote
Ochoa Training With Fulham

Mexican goalkeeper Guillermo Ochoa has travelled to London after receiving an invitation to train with Premier League side Fulham.

Ochoa was in Mexico's World Cup squad, but played second fiddle to the 37-year-old Oscar Perez. Now, the Club America goalkeeper could be set to earn himself a contract with the Cottagers, who have just signed up veteran Australian Mark Schwarzer to a new deal.

Club America are now waiting to see if the Cottagers want to start negotiations over a transfer for the 25-year-old.

"Our goalkeeper Guillermo Ochoa has travelled to London after accepting the invitation he has received from Fulham and the manager Mark Hughes," a club statement read. "Our club has been in touch all the time with Ochoa, who is enjoying his holidays, and that's why he has accepted the invitation he has received from Fulham.

"America will be aware of the results of this invitation and, in case there is a negotiation between both clubs, we will let the press know once they have finished.''
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on December 15, 2010, 11:43:55 AM
I think we should go back to wearing ties tucked into our shirts as part of our team uniforms.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NY_Metropolitans.jpg
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poolio on December 16, 2010, 10:00:21 AM
Jets tripping incident was not an accident (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Sal-Alosi-s-devious-act-was-not-a-coincidence?urn=nfl-296526). Now the question is: why hasn't the guy been fired yet?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on December 16, 2010, 10:40:27 AM
The way I read the reports, he essentially has been fired. I mean, he's definitely not going to work for the Jets ever again.

I suppose that "suspended indefinitely" is not the same as being fired, but he's been suspended without pay so what's the difference? I don't know either.

The guy instantly owned up to it and claimed it was an accident and apologized. Basically, once the play and game were over, he said everything he needed to say. Of course, if he claimed there wasn't an order for a "wall" and now it's out there that he did order it, I guess he lied and that's reason for the dismissal.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on December 16, 2010, 11:37:40 AM
I don't think they can fire the guy until they come up with some pay-off and confidentiality agreement. 

Who takes orders on the field from a strength and conditioning coach?  Obviously, either the special teams coach and/or Ryan knew about this and told them to do it.  And now they've lied about that. 

At this point though, they've bungled the whole situation so badly with their "I don't know about it, it's not wrong, but it is wrong.  The Patriots do it.  I'm not accusing anyone of something which might not even be wrong.  But this was wrong.  But I don't know if it's wrong." crap that they've already made a mountain out of a molehill and they might as well fire the dude.








Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poolio on December 16, 2010, 11:42:36 AM
At this point though, they've bungled the whole situation so badly with their "I don't know about it, it's not wrong, but it is wrong.  The Patriots do it.  I'm not accusing anyone of something which might not even be wrong.  But this was wrong.  But I don't know if it's wrong." crap that they've already made a mountain out of a molehill and they might as well fire the dude.


Agreed. It would have been far easier to use the "conduct unbecoming" or "conduct detrimental to the team" clause to fire him on Monday than for all this to come out now. Apology or no apology, it was a dirty play from someone who shouldn't be interfering with on-field play.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poolio on December 16, 2010, 07:23:19 PM
As a counterpoint to the jackassery in the NFL, I offer you a sweet story from the world of hockey. (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Video-Watch-23-096-stuffed-animals-bombard-a-ho?urn=nhl-296981)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kenneth Toilethole on January 05, 2011, 12:55:59 PM
What happened to all the barefoot football kickers? You never see anyone do that anymore.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on January 05, 2011, 02:06:30 PM
They all probably realized that it's insane?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poolio on January 06, 2011, 08:56:58 AM
What happened to all the barefoot football kickers? You never see anyone do that anymore.

They pay them better now so they can afford shoes?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on January 06, 2011, 01:08:30 PM
What happened to all the barefoot football kickers? You never see anyone do that anymore.

I heard Rex Ryan is trying to bring them back.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on January 06, 2011, 03:07:05 PM
What happened to all the barefoot football kickers? You never see anyone do that anymore.

I heard Rex Ryan is trying to bring them back.
You'd think he'd apply for a coaching job in the Lingerie Football League, you know?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on January 07, 2011, 11:04:32 AM
Probably somewhat unnecessary, but still pretty cool:

6QiqKzkn0R4&
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on January 07, 2011, 01:11:08 PM
I did that move like on every third goal in NHL '94.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on January 08, 2011, 08:38:32 PM
I remember one time that c-lando made me chuckle a lot by writing "Stevenage IS PEOPLE!". Don't recall the circumstances, but it was very funny :)

Anyway, tonight, Stevenage IS PEOPLE. They only went and fucking knocked out Newcastle from the FA cup. Unbelievable, really.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on January 09, 2011, 09:30:12 AM
and sticking it sideways up Alan 'The Cunt' Pardew's sorry arse into the bargain!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on January 09, 2011, 11:54:22 AM
and sticking it sideways up Alan 'The Cunt' Pardew's sorry arse into the bargain!
Yes, that's one of the best bits about it all, really. Shit player, shit manager, shit bloke.

I enjoyed reading that the Stevenage coach was a little sad with the result, as he'd asked his team to go out there and tonk Newcastle 5-0.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on January 25, 2011, 12:35:57 PM
Watching the Australian Open last week, and stumbled upon Fernando Verdasco's self-destruction and then resurrection against unseeded player Janko Tipsarevic mid-last week.  Maybe not one of the best tennis matches I've ever seen, but case-in-point of the concept of momentum and psychology that is so important in an individual sport like tennis.  Tipsarevic blew several match points at 6-5, then lost the tie-breaker 7-1 and the final set 6-0.  Really fun match to watch at home, as that game at 6-5 was one of the hardest fought I've ever seen.  Once that was decided, it was all over.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: trixi on January 25, 2011, 05:51:20 PM
Watching the Australian Open last week, and stumbled upon Fernando Verdasco's self-destruction

I thought you might be referring to his haircut.  :D
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on January 28, 2011, 05:13:51 PM
Tonight FSC 8pm EST: FA Cup Final 1976 Southampton v Manchester United
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: scuba on January 31, 2011, 03:34:36 PM
Every Team In NFL Calls Bengals To Let Them Know They Don't Want Carson Palmer (http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/every-team-in-nfl-calls-bengals-to-let-them-know-t,18995/)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on January 31, 2011, 03:44:09 PM
Lando cries for Nando.

Fecker.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on January 31, 2011, 04:23:02 PM
Lando cries for Nando.

Fecker.
But you've got Andy Pandy for a stupidly OTT 35m quid. Talk about over-paying... sheeesh!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on January 31, 2011, 06:37:10 PM
Lando cries for Nando.

Fecker.

Fucking Chelsea. Utterly fake team. Hope he pulls a hamstring in training. Hope Terry pulls a stint under an Ice-cream van at 30mph whilst hobbling across the King's Road to McDonalds, too.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on January 31, 2011, 06:44:30 PM
What a tool.  No reason he can't ask for a transfer in the summer (and he has a 50 million minimum release clause if Liverpool don't make Champions League).  Or if you're going to be a jerk about it, at least ask for a transfer at the start of the mid-season window so Liverpool has half a chance of finding a replacement.  Carroll seems a decent player and prospect but 35 million is a move a sheer panic. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on February 01, 2011, 09:33:43 AM
What a tool.  No reason he can't ask for a transfer in the summer (and he has a 50 million minimum release clause if Liverpool don't make Champions League).  Or if you're going to be a jerk about it, at least ask for a transfer at the start of the mid-season window so Liverpool has half a chance of finding a replacement.  Carroll seems a decent player and prospect but 35 million is a move a sheer panic.  
x2 + [Hope Terry pulls a stint under an Ice-cream van at 30mph whilst hobbling across the King's Road to McDonalds, too].

And FUCK ALL that we play Chelsea THIS Sunday at Stamford Bridge. Why couldn't it at least be at Anfield? Christ. That's going to be a mess but I'll still go to the bar and hold my head high.

SIGH.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on February 01, 2011, 09:49:21 AM
The Saints now have Forte and Fonte. This will be fun.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on February 06, 2011, 06:41:15 PM
Nice one, Liverpool. Glad to see Chelsea not win, pity Terry didn't get injured.

More importantly, Hannover are lying in FOURTH in the Bundesliga. Yes, that's right. Not fourth from bottom. Goal Difference is -2, so we'll get no prizes for great defensive displays this year, but fuck me, it's great to be a fan after last season's sadness. If Hannover get into Europe this year, me and my German mates have already decided to go to the first away game. Chances are slim, as customarily the team capitulate after the winter break year in, year out. Hope they don't draw a team from Azerbaijan if thet do get there, though.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on February 07, 2011, 08:05:01 AM
If Hannover get into Europe this year, me and my German mates have already decided to go to the first away game. Chances are slim, as customarily the team capitulate after the winter break year in, year out. Hope they don't draw a team from Azerbaijan if thet do get there, though.
DO IT! That would be sooooooooo cool!!!!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on February 07, 2011, 10:09:30 AM
I am not against the Black Eyed Peas per se, however they sounded like shit last night.  Either the sound system people don't know what they're doing, or they really are over-produced sacks of garbage.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kwyjibo on February 07, 2011, 10:11:38 AM
I'm guessing the latter.  I'm surprised they weren't lip syncing.  It kills me how often you see a high profile band like that that is obviously completely the product of studio production.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on February 07, 2011, 01:38:14 PM
I hated the sound too, but as someone who goes to a lot of shows I quickly became adjusted to the different and unexpected tones. Once I got adjusted, I found their performance to be rather entertaining. Everyone at the party was making fun of them the whole time, but I kind of liked it.

Note that I'm decidedly NOT a BEP's fan.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on February 07, 2011, 02:08:11 PM
BEP are utter crap, but I wouldn't hold an SB halftime performance against them.  Not that I saw it.  But you have fireworks going off and people screaming and the money goes into the visuals and not the audio.  You can't hear yourself at all, but the viewers at home are likely getting at least one feed straight from the monitors so they can hear you better than they normally would at a show.  Plus you gotta be dancing and hitting all sort of cues and stuff.

It's impossible to give a good singing performance in those conditions. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on February 07, 2011, 07:04:47 PM
If Hannover get into Europe this year, me and my German mates have already decided to go to the first away game. Chances are slim, as customarily the team capitulate after the winter break year in, year out. Hope they don't draw a team from Azerbaijan if thet do get there, though.
DO IT! That would be sooooooooo cool!!!!

You bet, if it ever happens :)

This is actually the most successful season for the club, so far, in the modern era. Look out for us finishing thirteenth or something equally mediocre as per usual.

The potential, almost mythical awayday in Europe is often discussed by us on our weekly phone calls at the moment, despite our sense of realism. We are veterans of seeing our team under-perform but we always go back. We will absolutely travel anywhere (we've already set our target as the Europa League - we're not dumb enough to entertain thoughts of the big one), even the Faroe Islands. The best scenario, though, would be a game at Chelsea. For starters, it would mean that Chelsea had failed to progress to the Champions League, a small victory for neutral fans of football, but it would also mean that I could get to Stamford Bridge from my office in ten minutes on foot, rather than fly thousands of miles to get shot at or raped by mountain goats on the dusty streets of Uzbekistan.

On a player-related note: DeMarcus Beasley is still crap.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poncho on February 07, 2011, 10:09:28 PM
Fergie sounded like the man I always knew she was.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on February 11, 2011, 12:13:39 PM
The Cavs did play well.  I'm impressed with the growth of JJ Hickson.  When I saw him 2 years ago, he looked like a throwaway draft pick that would be cut inside a year.  But he has become a good scorer and an important piece of the team.

They were shooting a few too many 3's, but they looked like a solid playoff team last night from the 2 quarters I saw.

Well, this didn't work out.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on February 11, 2011, 12:56:50 PM
Yeah, they were an average-to-mediocre team when they had their best players. Losing Mo Williams and Anderson Varejao didn't help things at all. They basically had 4 players (Jamison and Hickson being the other two) and when you lose half your team, you're not going to do well. I like Gibson, too, but he's the 8th or 9th guy off the bench if he's in the right situation. The rest of them are just worthless.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on February 14, 2011, 04:35:10 PM
That Rooney goal was bloody amazing at the weekend. I find it difficult to praise anything Man U. aside from Giggs and a couple of their ex-players, but the big fellow took that goal incredibly well.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on February 15, 2011, 09:38:47 AM
It was all over my facebook feed, mostly coming from people who aren't footie fans. If there ever was a goal that transcended sport and made it into popular culture, that was the one.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on February 15, 2011, 10:20:52 AM
It was all over my facebook feed, mostly coming from people who aren't footie fans. If there ever was a goal that transcended sport and made it into popular culture, that was the one.
Whoa. I need to go look for that tonight. I missed it somehow.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on February 24, 2011, 10:52:40 AM
The New Jersey Nets are terrible. They are a joke. They are a team that no one in NY is interested in as far as I can tell. Which is why I have attended two Nets games this year and have tickets for a third one - they are SUPER CHEAP! I spent $9 for the first ticket, after stubhub fees, and then spent $4.50 for the second game...both of which were against the lowly Cavaliers and were so sparsely attended that we were able to sneak by the impressively attentive lower bowl ushers and sit pretty close to the action. My friends and I decided that it'd be fun to see Blake Griffin for cheap, too, and with the Clippers arrival on Friday March 11 everything seemed to work out for us: it's a Friday, it's against a team historically bad, and tickets for the lower bowl (we wanted guaranteed seats, not sneaking around) were going for $15-$20. I pulled the trigger about two weeks ago and purchased them, with final cost being $28 so we could sit in row 13 in a corner section.

Not bad. $28 for 13th row? I'll take it so we have the opportunity to see one of the rising stars in the NBA.

After Blake Griffin dunked over a car in the All-Star game this weekend and the Nets trade for Deron Williams yesterday, I noticed that 4 seats in the row in front of us are going for $85 each on stubhub, and those are the only seats listed.

Wow.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on March 04, 2011, 10:45:43 PM
Can we get some stricter steroids testing in the NBA?  Because Dwight Howard is just ridiculously jacked.  He makes Barry Bonds look like a "Before" picture.  I think his shoulders are bigger than my thighs.  And I have 23" thighs. 

The dude put on like 30 lbs of pure muscle last year.  Then like another 20 lbs before this year.  And somehow he's still getting bigger every game I see him during the season.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on March 06, 2011, 01:28:26 PM
Hannover 96 3, Bryan Eunuch 1. Yes, that's 3-1. Fucking absurd season, but i'm not complaining one bit. Best result ever, to be honest. Beating Munich is something we don't do.

It's like if us lot left the pub, played the Washington Redskins at gridiron, and Butter passed to RVA for a winning touchdown, as me, fools, lando, vizz and Poncho were making big hits. Unbelievable result!

Ole, sechsundneunzig!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on March 06, 2011, 01:34:32 PM
Fergie sounded like the man I always knew she was.

How did I miss this? She is definitely a geezer, or was in a past life.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poncho on March 06, 2011, 06:31:01 PM
Hannover 96 3, Bryan Eunuch 1. Yes, that's 3-1. Fucking absurd season, but i'm not complaining one bit. Best result ever, to be honest. Beating Munich is something we don't do.

It's like if us lot left the pub, played the Washington Redskins at gridiron, and Butter passed to RVA for a winning touchdown, as me, fools, lando, vizz and Poncho were making big hits. Unbelievable result!

Ole, sechsundneunzig!


Try being a Posh fan... thankless, mate, thankless!  Although, even if he's no Bly, Mackail-Smith is lighting things up this year.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on March 06, 2011, 07:50:33 PM
up the Posh! Bly was dynamite back then!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on March 06, 2011, 08:57:09 PM
I doubt any real Posh fans are very upset right now.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on March 07, 2011, 08:18:03 AM
Hannover 96 3, Bryan Eunuch 1. Yes, that's 3-1. Fucking absurd season, but i'm not complaining one bit. Best result ever, to be honest. Beating Munich is something we don't do.

It's like if us lot left the pub, played the Washington Redskins at gridiron, and Butter passed to RVA for a winning touchdown, as me, fools, lando, vizz and Poncho were making big hits. Unbelievable result!

Ole, sechsundneunzig!

Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice!
We had a nice 3-1 result yesterday as well. WOOHOO!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on March 07, 2011, 10:16:59 AM
Hannover 96 3, Bryan Eunuch 1. Yes, that's 3-1. Fucking absurd season, but i'm not complaining one bit. Best result ever, to be honest. Beating Munich is something we don't do.

It's like if us lot left the pub, played the Washington Redskins at gridiron, and Butter passed to RVA for a winning touchdown, as me, fools, lando, vizz and Poncho were making big hits. Unbelievable result!

Ole, sechsundneunzig!

Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice!
We had a nice 3-1 result yesterday as well. WOOHOO!

I don't usually root for 'Pool, but against ManUre I certainly do. That was a fun game to watch.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on March 08, 2011, 06:55:44 AM
I doubt any real Posh fans are very upset right now.

Last couple of years have been very, very good for us.  Bouncing between the Championship and League One is probably about as high as this club could really hope for, so I will not complain.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on March 17, 2011, 01:29:52 AM
Ochocinco is trying out for the MLS (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6224036)?! Thoughts?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on March 17, 2011, 09:23:39 AM
It's probably just a stunt, but the guy does like his soccer.  I've seen him pretty regularly kicking the ball around with Xavier's mens soccer team, I've seen him at Haps a couple of times watching EPL matches.  Granted, that doesn't make him MLS material, but I think it's a win-win for all involved should he somehow make the team.  KC and the MLS gets a recognizable name and a short bit of attention/ticket sales and he gets something to do while Mike Brown trots out scabs for the upcoming season.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on March 23, 2011, 04:04:40 PM
I'm gonna say it: I *LOVE* that Chad Ocho Cinco is trying out for an MLS team. Especially when comments like this come back:

"Moving fluidly on the cold, blustery day and taller than almost everyone else on the field, his athleticism was obvious. But so was his soccer rust after not playing the sport competitively since he was in the 10th grade."

Found here:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6250413

I know that he won't make the team but I hope he does. I hope he dominates in the air. I hope he uses his athleticism in ways that MLS teams aren't used to. I hope it works out for both Chad and KC. I like this story.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on March 23, 2011, 04:36:15 PM
I feel two ways about it.  I like that he's doing it, and that it's drawing attention to the sport.  But if he makes the team and scores goals it just highlights how impossibly crappy soccer is in this country.  And the perception that it doesn't take skill.

I really wish Steve Nash tried it a few years ago.  Because I'm pretty sure he could legitimately play without embarrassing himself.  And it wouldn't just be like look at that strong fast freak.  He would play the game with some flair and people would be like "Wow, steve nash is coordinated" but also "Hey, this game is tough."
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on March 23, 2011, 05:05:50 PM
I'm hoping he makes the team but doesn't play for a while. Then halfway through the season he makes a couple token appearances as a sub late in the game. In September he gets his first start. In his last start of the season maybe he scores his first goal.

Something like that is my best case scenario. Anything else has massive drawbacks, as you point out.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: kcneon on March 23, 2011, 07:03:02 PM
Then you guys might appreciate this pic from practice (http://www.kansascity.com/2011/03/23/2747070_a2747452/chad-ochocincos-first-day-with.html).
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poncho on March 24, 2011, 11:49:16 AM
I feel two ways about it.  I like that he's doing it, and that it's drawing attention to the sport.  But if he makes the team and scores goals it just highlights how impossibly crappy soccer is in this country.  And the perception that it doesn't take skill.

I really wish Steve Nash tried it a few years ago.  Because I'm pretty sure he could legitimately play without embarrassing himself.  And it wouldn't just be like look at that strong fast freak.  He would play the game with some flair and people would be like "Wow, steve nash is coordinated" but also "Hey, this game is tough."

I don't think US Soccer needs any help being LESS relevant or any help highlighting how crappy it is.

I can't see how this is anything but a good thing.  It's not like he's some 5'6" 300lb slob from Nebraska who just randomly showed up at the soccer facility and makes the team because he's a warm body or even some AAA baseball player who'll never make it in the big leagues.

He's a world-class athlete.  Whether you like him or hate him, not only is he in the group of about 1% of Americans who have made it in professional sports (there are about 3 to 3.5 million "pro athletes" in the US and 308 million people), he's in the upper echelon of that group.  I've heard people point out Michael Jordan, who is arguably the best basketball player in the history of the game (if you don't agree, I'd bet that you at least put him in the Top 10 ever), and his adventure in baseball.  While MJ did not succeed in baseball, he didn't embarrass the sport by making a team.  The Birmingham Barons never had it so good.  MJ was BEYOND a world-class athlete, he was one of the best the world has ever seen.  You'd expect him, just by his athleticism alone, to have a leg up on Joe Somebody at getting a shot.  That's what Chad brings to the table.  He's lean, he's muscular, he's got a passion and a knowledge of the game, he's a professional, he's in peak shape, etc etc etc.  Those intangibles put him a cut above the average person in any sport where those assets might play a role in how someone plays the game.  If you ever saw Dhani Tackles the Globe you'd see how in just a week or so, Dhani's raw athletic ability let him be competitive in almost every random local sport he tried.

It's not like the Kansas City whatevers are a major player in the US Sports market anyway, so they've got no where to go but up.  If he makes the team, maybe it will put some butts in the seats?  It would have to.  THIS (http://media.kansascity.com/smedia/2011/03/23/14/OCHOCINCO_SP_032311_DRE_113f.standalone.prod_affiliate.81.jpg) seems to back that statement up.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on March 24, 2011, 07:20:27 PM
Michael Jordan is not just considered the greatest basketball player ever, but perhaps the greatest sports icon in US history.
Chad Ochocinco is not even considered the best receiver in the NFL, and is regarded by many people to be somewhat of a chump.

Major League Baseball has been around for 100 years and your typical team can expect to average about 30k fans over a 160 game schedule.
MLS has been struggling in its less than 20 years and a typical team might average 16k fans over a 30 game schedule.

Michael Jordan played AA baseball, two levels below MLB.
Chad Ochocinco is playing MLS.

So it's not really the same thing at all. Had Michael Jordan succeeded in MLB, it just would have added to his legend.  If Ochocinco were to somehow do really well in MLS, it would just lesson people's respect for MLS.

No offense, but the idea that a decent NFL player can simply walk on to a professional soccer league after not playing for 20 years is exactly the perception that needs to change.  If it ends up being true, that's even more horrifying.  No one would suggest that Wayne Rooney could cut it in the NFL or that Ray Lewis could play for Man U.

btw, Michael Jordan was really, really, really bad at baseball.  His slashline was .202/.289/.266, and his fielding percentage was .952 as a CF.  By no stretch of the imagination did he "make the team."  He only got to play because he was Michael Jordan. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poncho on March 25, 2011, 12:20:09 AM
I was only preemptively referring to MJ because I've heard the reference in almost every news story on Chad playing MLS.

My point, however, remains the same.  I see no reasons as to why this could possibly be a bad thing for MLS.  It's a league in dire need of SOMETHING to make people know it even exists.

Chad Ochocinco is not even considered the best receiver in the NFL, and is regarded by many people to be somewhat of a chump.

I wasn't actually calling him the best ever, but your comment about him being considered a "chump" is laughable, at best.  You can dislike his antics or whatever... but the FACTS say that he'll go down in NFL history as one of the best WR the league has seen.

He's currently 27th (7th active) in all-time yards AND he's done those yards in *at least* 3 or 4 fewer seasons than almost everyone above him.  
He's currently 13th all-time in yards-per-game.
The average career length of the 26 guys above him is over 15 years, that's 6 seasons away for Chad.  If Chad plays 6 more seasons and drops off 15% production each year... he'll still retire at #3 on the all-time yards list behind TO and Jerry Rice.

Hate him all you want, but the guy has a solid NFL career in the upper tiers of WR

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on March 25, 2011, 10:35:41 AM
It's not his football ability that's in question.  People just think of him as a jackass, whereas Jordan is seen the world's greatest all-time competitor.

So if Jordan were to succeed in baseball, it would be viewed as not just a testament to his athletic prowess, but also his focus and just all-around winnerdom.  If Jordan fails, it's "Wow, that sport must be pretty tough if it made Michael Jordan look bad." 

Whereas if Ochocinco succeeds, it's a testament that the sport isn't really that hard and you can take it on as a publicity stunt and still be awesome.  And if he fails it'll just be like "That whacky Ochocinco.  What'll he think of next?"  I'll be the first to say I don't think those perceptions are necessarily justified, but that's the reality of the situation.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poncho on March 25, 2011, 12:50:22 PM
Last time I checked, being an arrogant jerkface or a "jackass" has very little, if anything, to do with your level of ability.


Ty Cobb
Pete Rose
Charles Barkley
Dennis Rodman
TO
Ron Artest
Albert Belle
Vanderjagt
Roger Clemens
Barry Bonds
Bill Lambier
Bill Romanowski
John Stockton
Larry Johnson
Plaxico Burress
John McEnroe
Dale Ernhardt
Reggie Jackson
John Rocker
Tommy LaSorda
Bill Parcells
Bobby Knight
Mike Tyson

It goes on and on and on
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on March 25, 2011, 01:12:53 PM
But it has an impact on how people perceive you.  Which was my point.

As far as Ochcinco's NFL ability goes.  He'll probably be remember as one of the Top 5 WR of his generation, but he will be in a tier below Randy Moss or T.O. (who incidentally are also jackasses).  He probably deserves to go the Hall of Fame, but I don't think he will. 

You know why?  Yep.  That's right. Because a lot of people think he's a chump

Anyway it turns out Ochocinco pretty much sucks at soccer so whatever, man.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poncho on March 29, 2011, 09:44:02 AM
Looks like it turned out positive.  The KC team got some publicity.  The MLS got more TV time in the past 2 weeks than it got in all the years of its existence combined.  Chad isn't going to make the team as a starter, probably not even as a backup, but maybe as a PS member.  He was praised for his physical condition and it was properly pointed out that it didn't magically give him soccer skills.  He was praised for his love and knowledge of the game and given a fair (more than fair, I believe) shot at living his dream in a time where the NFL is closed for business.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on March 29, 2011, 09:52:32 AM
Looks like it turned out positive.  The KC team got some publicity.  The MLS got more TV time in the past 2 weeks than it got in all the years of its existence combined.  Chad isn't going to make the team as a starter, probably not even as a backup, but maybe as a PS member.  He was praised for his physical condition and it was properly pointed out that it didn't magically give him soccer skills.  He was praised for his love and knowledge of the game and given a fair (more than fair, I believe) shot at living his dream in a time where the NFL is closed for business.
x2.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on March 29, 2011, 10:24:41 AM
Looks like it turned out positive.  The KC team got some publicity.  The MLS got more TV time in the past 2 weeks than it got in all the years of its existence combined.

Were you in a coma when Beckham signed, or what?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on March 29, 2011, 10:47:34 AM
Looks like it turned out positive.  The KC team got some publicity.  The MLS got more TV time in the past 2 weeks than it got in all the years of its existence combined.

Were you in a coma when Beckham signed, or what?

Seriously.  And it's not like they don't show 2-3 games every week on TV during the season.  I mean, I'm no fan of MLS but they do average 17k a game which isn't bad.  The Seattle Sounders average 10k more fans a game than the Mariners.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on March 29, 2011, 10:58:20 AM
Looks like it turned out positive.  The KC team got some publicity.  The MLS got more TV time in the past 2 weeks than it got in all the years of its existence combined.

Were you in a coma when Beckham signed, or what?
Oops. Missed that point. Yeah. Beckham definitely generated more publicity. But, at a much greater price tag.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on March 29, 2011, 11:06:20 AM
Yeah, that's true.  The Ochocinco thing definitely did end up working out well for everyone.  I never had a problem with Ochocinco trying out for the team.  I thought it was kind of a cool thing. 

I just didn't like the implications had he made it.  Either US soccer would have been waaay worse than I thought, or Ochocinco would be playing as a publicity stunt.  Either situation would have been problematic.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on March 29, 2011, 09:03:04 PM
I watched a bunch of the reserve game footage.   I thought he was actually a pretty good player. 

A lot of the stuff he looked bad on was not so much a lack of skill, but just sort of shock.  He may have played a lot of soccer, but he's never played soccer against people that freaking good, so of course he's going to run to the wrong places and not get a good read on the balls or just how fast the game is played at that level. A good chunk of your standard tricks and knowledge are thrown out the window.   So basically despite all his speed, he doesn't get to the ball any faster than other people and his first touch is awful.  All of which also make him waste a lot of energy so by the end of the game he just looks worse because he's so winded.

But you could tell when he got a short, simple pass to his feet that he actually had decent control, knew how to shield the ball, and had even had some decent moves.  I thought he had the skills of maybe a Division 2 player in my rec league.  Which is really pretty good.  And obviously if you add in his physical tools he would pretty much make a mockery of the best Division 1 team.

The interview with him was pretty cool, like how totally amped up he was just to have gotten to play.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poncho on March 30, 2011, 01:01:41 AM
Looks like it turned out positive.  The KC team got some publicity.  The MLS got more TV time in the past 2 weeks than it got in all the years of its existence combined.

Were you in a coma when Beckham signed, or what?

I watch SportsCenter basically every single day.  Sometimes several times a day.  Beckham didn't seem to get the coverage that Chad got.  That could be MY interest, as well. 

The only think Beckham is to me, is a Spice Girl's baby daddy.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on March 30, 2011, 11:30:11 AM
Nah, it's not even close. 

When Beckham first arrived, the Red Bulls sold out Giant stadium. If you get an extra 50,000 people in the stadium, ESPN is going to take note.  And there probably wouldn't be an extra 50,000 in the first place had ESPN not already hyped it up.

I remember being really annoyed and burnt out by the non-stop coverage of Beckham and his possible impact on soccer even before he ever played a game.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on March 30, 2011, 11:45:39 AM
It's kind of awesome how well Seattle is doing, and how well Portland pre-sold tix for their season.  I hear Vancouver is a similar success.  Really heartening to hear, considering how stagnant attendance has been in Columbus.

Doesn't help that I still have never been to a game at Crew Stadium, even though I have been intending to for years.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kwyjibo on March 30, 2011, 01:09:21 PM
Doesn't help that I still have never been to a game at Crew Stadium, even though I have been intending to for years.

We should organize an outing... I'd go, just to see what it's all about.  It'd be nice to go with someone that knew what was going on.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on March 30, 2011, 02:24:00 PM
My favorite RailHawk is now playing for the Crew, so I'm sad I won't get to see him play live anymore - unless I make it to a Crew game.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on March 30, 2011, 02:48:12 PM
I've been to a few Kickers games over the last five years, although none recently.  I used to catch 3-4 DC United games a year back when I was in DC or at least spending summers in DC.  I was a huge Raķl DŪaz Arce fan back in the day.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on April 04, 2011, 11:00:27 AM
Chad isn't going to make the team as a starter, probably not even as a backup, but maybe as a PS member.

Sorry, but what's "PS member?" Practice Squad?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poncho on April 04, 2011, 09:42:07 PM
Yes, Practice Squad.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on April 05, 2011, 10:11:31 AM
In the NFL, if you're on the practice squad there's a chance, albeit a small one, that you can impress the coaches and move up to the full squad. Does that apply to MLS, too?

I mean, move up from PS to Reserves, at least?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on April 05, 2011, 10:53:33 AM
Ochocinco is an "Honorary Member" who gets to practice with the team if he wants so he can stay in shape.  He's nowhere near good enough to play for the Richmond Kickers, much less MLS.

You don't want to see him in a pro game.  I watched the footage of him playing that scrimmage and I felt bad for him, because I also played soccer and sucked at it.

The average fan who knows nothing about soccer, or even worse the huge soccer fan who has never played is just going to see a gigantic, slow, awkward player bumbling around the pitch.  There's no need for him to embarrass himself that way.

Let it go.

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on April 13, 2011, 02:57:30 PM
On the same lines that I loved Ochocinco playing soccer with the WizardsSporting KC, I love that Ray Edwards is trying to be a boxer.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6343762

I don't know why this fascinates me so much. I hope he destroys a couple Boxcar Joe's and Glassjaw Jack's and starts looking interesting.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on April 20, 2011, 10:57:44 AM
The Best Boxer in NFL History!

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704004004576271351374530830.html?mod=rss_Sports
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on April 27, 2011, 04:19:01 PM
I'm having a blast following the gamecast of this Real Madrid - Barcelona Leg 1 Champions League game. The ESPN commentary is considerably more descriptive and informative than the BBC.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/gamecast?id=315488&cc=5901

I like how the guy said two minutes before the sub "wouldn't be surprised if Pedro was subbed off soon."

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on April 28, 2011, 09:42:54 AM
That 2nd goal from Messi... was simply amazing.

(until it gets taken down for copyright...)
50DXSls_T_o
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on April 28, 2011, 10:04:40 AM
What horrid defense.  You have to take him down before he gets even near the box.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on April 28, 2011, 11:03:29 AM
The entertaining thing is that one guy tried .... and missed.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on April 29, 2011, 10:47:06 AM
So it turns out that QPR cheated.  Or more specifically, it turns out that after all his whining about West Ham being dirty cheaters, Neil Warnock went and did the exact same thing.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on April 29, 2011, 10:50:48 AM
This is the brief write-up from ESPN on JJ Watt, a DE from Wisconsin who was drafted by Houston:

Quote
Watt is a versatile, high-motor player who can line up at LDE in a four-man front or 5-technique in a three-man front. He can also line up at tight end in short-yardage situations. While he could play a little lower he is stout against the run and can hold his ground when teams run at him, and he can get off blocks quickly enough to make the tackle. He's not an elite pass rusher but can walk offensive tackles back and is good at getting his hands into passing windows.

What the hell is LDE? What is a 5-technique? I thought I knew a lot about football, but this impressive.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on May 02, 2011, 02:03:57 PM
Cleveland Indians catcher Carlos Santana has thrown out 1 runner in 12 attempts this year.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on May 02, 2011, 02:15:56 PM
Yet you're still 25-1 or whatever it is.  Don't nitpick.  Enjoy it.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on May 02, 2011, 03:04:38 PM
19-8, but you're right. That's the Clevelander coming out in me. I have to find something to keep me humbled or else my head my asplode.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on May 08, 2011, 03:51:00 PM
I *JUST* put together that Javier Hernandez and Chicharito are the same person.

facepalm.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on May 09, 2011, 09:00:38 AM
I *JUST* but together that Javier Hernandez and Chicharito are the same person.

facepalm.
HAHAHAHHHAAH. That's awesdome.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on May 09, 2011, 11:52:13 AM
Southampton's fanbase's racial makeup... needs a little diversification. :p

(http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/javaImages/61/4a/0,,10280~9652833,00.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on May 09, 2011, 12:51:26 PM
I haven't seen anything that white since that Miracle Whip truck crashed into a sperm bank.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on May 09, 2011, 01:05:00 PM
No offense meant to those limeys who frequent our board, but England is something like 90% white.  If you took a picture of just about any team's stands, this is probably what you'd see.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on May 09, 2011, 04:41:58 PM
Southampton's fanbase's racial makeup... needs a little diversification. :p

I told you years ago that the future was red & white
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on May 09, 2011, 04:50:30 PM
No offense meant to those limeys who frequent our board, but England is something like 90% white.  If you took a picture of just about any team's stands, this is probably what you'd see.
Except United. Crap. I can't grab a photo of the three sikhs who always sit behind Fergie.

Well, here's one that I could grab.
(http://pujanggamalam.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/sikhs.gif?w=352&h=279)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on May 12, 2011, 08:17:43 PM
Top 15 left fielders in the Reds organization, in order:

1)  Dave Sappelt
2)  Fred Lewis
3)  Chris Heisey
4)  Juan Francisco
5)  Yonder Alonso
6)  Todd Frazier
7)  Jeremy Hermida
8.)  Quintin Berry
9)  David Cook
10)  Yorman Rodriguez
11)  Juan Duran
12)  Billy Hatcher
13)  Dusty Baker
14)  Miguel Cairo
15)  Jonny Gomes
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on May 13, 2011, 09:16:46 AM
Top 15 left fielders in the Reds organization, in order:

1)  Dave Sappelt
2)  Fred Lewis
3)  Chris Heisey
4)  Juan Francisco
5)  Yonder Alonso
6)  Todd Frazier
7)  Jeremy Hermida
8.)  Quintin Berry
9)  David Cook
10)  Yorman Rodriguez
11)  Juan Duran
12)  Billy Hatcher
13)  Dusty Baker
14)  Miguel Cairo
15)  Jonny Gomes

How long has it been since the Reds had a LF who could hit and play the position?  Kal Daniels or Hatcher, maybe?  I have to be forgetting someone obvious.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on May 13, 2011, 10:34:02 AM
Top 15 left fielders in the Reds organization, in order:

13)  Dusty Baker

I'd be careful - you don't want to give Dusty any ideas. He might realize that he's wearing an actual uniform one day and then put himself out there.



And speaking of... what a dumb tradition baseball holds on to for no reason at all: managers and coaches wearing uniforms. I get it that they used to be player/managers, but that hasn't happened in 25 years and will never happen again. They should wear suits and look like management.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on May 13, 2011, 11:29:32 AM
See, I disagree.  Or rather I agree but I think coaches/managers are put in a no-win situation.

If you wear the uniform, you kind of look like an idiot because it's not like you're actually going to play.  OTOH, I think you look at least as stupid wearing a suit.  Is some kind of high-profile client negotiation going to break out in the middle of the game?  And even if it were, there's a reason high stakes meetings take place in air-conditioned boardrooms.  In baseball, you're outside.  It's dirty, and it could be 90 degree, humid weather or rainy.  It makes no sense to wear a suit in those conditions.

The only solution is to try and wear something comfortable that still doesn't look either frumpy or jock-ish.  I can't think of what that would be.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on May 13, 2011, 11:34:49 AM
How about business casual? If it's hot out, they can wear a shirt and tie and roll up their sleeves.

I also don't mind it when you see football coaches wearing team gear, but obviously not actual uniforms. Some of the team gear stuff looks low class, so I'd say no to that, but some of it seems headed toward the business casual stylings.

Bill Belichek's hoodie = NO
(http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/images/10/29/p2_belichick.jpg)

But Tony Dungy is looking pretty good here:
(http://pauldelva.com/portfolio1/html/pauls-nfl-website/NFL%20Images/tony_dungy--indycolts.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on May 13, 2011, 12:14:43 PM
Maybe Tressel could sell off his sweater vests to help pay his legal fees.  The colors would be right for home and away.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on May 13, 2011, 04:24:42 PM
I suppose a polo shirt strikes the right blend of formality and comfort from a fashion/cultural standpoint.

But that does work well with my opinion that no one should ever wear a polo shirt under any circumstance ever.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on May 16, 2011, 02:42:06 PM
I can't stop watching Kate Upton doing the Dougie.  I don't know why.  It's not really hot, just somehow hypnotizing.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on May 16, 2011, 03:13:19 PM
Umm, it's hot. Not the dance, but the girl. She's a wafflecrapper.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on May 16, 2011, 03:25:29 PM
Eh.. she's tall and all but she's kind of boring looking.  Sort of a blonde Denise Richards.  I'd hit it, of course.

Anyway, I guess that's what partly what is so hypnotic about the video.  She's sort of goofing off and doing pouty supermodel poses.  Only she is a pouty supermodel.  whoa.  Fourth wall and mind blown.  Penis, less so.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on May 17, 2011, 04:54:54 PM
Yayy... fuck off Cardiff... it's called the English Premier League for a reason.

Swansea, it's you next
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on May 18, 2011, 11:26:41 AM
No way.  I hope Swansea beats Nottingham Forest and dirty douchebag Davies 19-0.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on May 18, 2011, 04:46:25 PM
Well, they gave you part of that wish a couple of days ago didn't they?

GO Reading!!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on May 20, 2011, 10:23:08 AM
I enjoy the stat that Wigan is the only team never to have been relegated from English football's top division.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on May 20, 2011, 10:45:07 AM
I hope they maintain that record.  It's a pretty exciting last day for the relegation zone candidates.

Wigan is in 19th place, but they still have every chance of surviving.  If they beat Stoke, they will leapfrog either Wolves or Blackburn.  Which means Birmingham would have to beat Tottenham away AND Blackpool would have to beat Man U away which is extremely unlikely. 

So the 19th place team could easily be in with a win or possibly even a tie.  And the 15th place team could easily be relegated with a loss.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on May 20, 2011, 10:52:47 AM
There are 81 different scenarios!! And that's BEFORE goal differential is taken into account.

Fun weekend.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on May 21, 2011, 11:10:02 PM
Random tweet from John Hollinger:  Jerome Benton is the best sidekick ever
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on May 23, 2011, 01:47:24 AM
I really wanted Blackpool to get relegated. 

But now that they have, I kinda feel bad.  Smallest club in the Premier League by far, facing an almost impossible task of beating Man U and damned if they didn't almost pull it off.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on May 23, 2011, 09:40:59 AM
That was a fun game to watch. I was rooting for Wigan and Blackpool to stay up. I guess I went 1 for 2. I felt bad for Evatt when he had that own goal to ruin their chances, but then felt less bad when MUFC got their 4th goal. I enjoyed how the announcers were like "and I don't even know what this means for their chances - we'll get back to you in a moment."



Question: the announcers talked about how Gary Neville didn't play enough this year to qualify for earning a title medal (or something like that). Then when Michael Owen came on they said he did qualify. How many appearances or whatever does a player need to qualify for the EPL trophy? How about for other Cups?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kenneth Toilethole on May 23, 2011, 10:17:33 AM
Dear Dan,

Go ahead and buy a Mike Rayl jersey now. You'll want one in 2 years anyways.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on May 23, 2011, 10:27:11 AM
Dear Dan,

Go ahead and buy a Mike Rayl jersey now. You'll want one in 2 years anyways.

Dear Robbie,

THANKS! I'd never heard of him. The Tribe has a few prospects that I've been waiting on (Chisenhall, Kipnis) but I like the stats I just perused. 2.29 ERA and 4-0 sound good. I'll keep an eye on him.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on May 23, 2011, 10:47:17 AM
39 K's in 25 innings with only 9 BB.  He's dealing alright.  But it's still only A.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kenneth Toilethole on May 23, 2011, 12:53:02 PM
I saw him yesterday and guys were just looking silly trying to hit the ball. I think 4 balls made it out of the infield.

Granted, like RVA said, it is A ball. But I wouldn't bet against this kid from what I saw.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on May 23, 2011, 01:04:34 PM
Yeah, A ball is renowned for only needing one pitch for a pitcher to be successful. If he's as dominant as Robbie says then he's probably got 2 (or 3) pitches working. He won't get farther up the ladder on just one, but maybe the Tribe will move him up soon.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on May 23, 2011, 01:45:55 PM
The Cubs have a guy like that named Robert Whitenack (http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=whiten001rob).

He was tearing up A ball even though the scouting gurus said he didn't have the best stuff.  You can see what happened when the Cub promoted him to AA.  Now he's still good... but he's looking decidedly more finesse-y than dominant.  Then when he gets up to AAA he'll probably be a total finesse pitcher but still effective.  And then if he gets up to MLB he'll maybe be an innings-eating 5th starter or a mop-up guy.

I'm not counting Rayl or Whitenack out.  There are guys like that who make it big, and you have to root for them.  But it does show there is something to major league scouting.  It's always interesting that you'll see guys like Rayl or Whitenack dominate, while some bonus baby is merely mediocre at A.  Then they promote the bonus baby and he's mediocre at AA, but slightly better.  Then suddenly the light comes on and they are awesome at AAA.  Instead of getting worse and worse each level up the system they get better and better.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kenneth Toilethole on May 23, 2011, 02:35:00 PM
The Cubs have a guy like that named Robert Whitenack (http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=whiten001rob).

He was tearing up A ball even though the scouting gurus said he didn't have the best stuff.  You can see what happened when the Cub promoted him to AA.  Now he's still good... but he's looking decidedly more finesse-y than dominant.  Then when he gets up to AAA he'll probably be a total finesse pitcher but still effective.  And then if he gets up to MLB he'll maybe be an innings-eating 5th starter or a mop-up guy.

I'm not counting Rayl or Whitenack out.  There are guys like that who make it big, and you have to root for them.  But it does show there is something to major league scouting.  It's always interesting that you'll see guys like Rayl or Whitenack dominate, while some bonus baby is merely mediocre at A.  Then they promote the bonus baby and he's mediocre at AA, but slightly better.  Then suddenly the light comes on and they are awesome at AAA.  Instead of getting worse and worse each level up the system they get better and better.
see Devin Mesoraco
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on May 24, 2011, 10:51:46 AM
I think stuff like that happens because of the stories you hear about a guy who's already at MLB level and he's doing okay...not great but serviceable. Then one offseason he gets his act together, works out hard, and most importantly spends the offseason teaching himself either A) a new pitch or B) learning to be confident in one of his existing pitches in a 3-ball count. Then suddenly he's lights out.

Stories like that mean that even though these young guys at A or AA can still learn new stuff and still become significant. The coaches and organizations know this and theoretically give them more time or the benefit of the doubt. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on May 31, 2011, 09:56:38 PM
The Thrashers are moving to Winnipeg.  Does this mean my Winnipeg Jets jersey is no longer a "throwback?"

Good for Winnipeg, though.  They deserve a team.  As do Quebec and Hartford.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on May 31, 2011, 10:38:03 PM
Hartford is going to have to get their own team; we're keeping the Canes.

It will be interesting to see who replaces Winnipeg in the Southeast. Our local paper is speculating Nashville, Detroit, or Columbus. Nashville makes the most sense geographically.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on May 31, 2011, 11:05:46 PM
Detroit moving to the East would absolutely suck.  It would not only remove one of the best and oldest rivalries in the NHL, it would also leave Chicago as the only original six team left in the West.  And I think they'd only have three of the original expansion twelve.

It would be Chicago vs a bunch of teams I care nothing about except maybe St. Louis.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kenneth Toilethole on June 01, 2011, 08:03:10 AM
As a Wings fan, I think Detroit moving to the East would be awesome. No more goddamn playoff games starting at 10 PM on a Tuesday. But I do agree it would suck as a Chicago fan. However, I believe it will be Columbus or Nashville that moves. They could use the cash savings in travel more than Detroit (especially Columbus). Moving Columbus would also allow for more games with Pittsburgh and Buffalo.

The thing about the new team is that it won't be the Winnipeg whatevers, it will be the Manitoba whatevers. Personally, I don't think they should be the Jets. The Jets are in Phoenix. But I think making that a third jersey would be kinda cool.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on June 01, 2011, 08:35:33 AM
It really needs to be Columbus.  They play a LOT of West Coast games, which helps to kill what little interest there already may have been.  As it is, I don't think the Blue Jackets are going to survive the decade in Columbus.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poolio on June 01, 2011, 08:43:52 AM
It really needs to be Columbus.  They play a LOT of West Coast games, which helps to kill what little interest there already may have been.  As it is, I don't think the Blue Jackets are going to survive the decade in Columbus.

Agreed. I had read some press that Nashville might be moving and they were pretty excited about it. But, they won't reap as much of a reward from a move east as Columbus would. Although, I am not sure that playing more games in town and in the EST zone will do much to boost the Jackets standing in the city*.



*When Nashville was in danger of being sold and moved North, there was a big movement in the city to keep them in town. Businesses and locals rallied to buy tickets and generally support the franchise. I don't see that happening with the Bluejackets.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on June 01, 2011, 09:38:49 AM
Leave Detroit where it is and put it with a bunch of other teams from the mid/north US.  Something like this:   

Chicago Black Hawks
Detroit Red Wings
Minnesota Wild North Stars
St. Louis Blues
Toronto Maple Leafs

I'm thinking of a name.... North-ish Division?  Maybe not that, but something that sounds like that.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kenneth Toilethole on June 01, 2011, 10:29:33 AM
Leave Detroit where it is and put it with a bunch of other teams from the mid/north US.  Something like this:   

Chicago Black Hawks
Detroit Red Wings
Minnesota Wild North Stars
St. Louis Blues
Toronto Maple Leafs

I'm thinking of a name.... North-ish Division?  Maybe not that, but something that sounds like that.
Brilliant.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on June 02, 2011, 12:38:44 AM
Dear Roberto Luongo:

You have over the years, made a mockery of every argument I have ever tried to make that you suck.  And tonight's performance pretty much sealed the fact that I have no idea what I am talking about and in fact this debate should probably have been over years ago.

I do not care.  I will continue to hate you for no rational reason whatsoever.  I think your glove hand sucks, and I also think you suck with the stick.  I have no evidence of this whatsoever, in large part because you mostly prefer to simply block the puck with your gigantic fat-ass torso, and your gigantic fat-ass legs with your gigantic pads and your gigantic skates just like you should. 

In short, I believe that you sir, are a big fat lump of poo who does little more than read the situation and then cover almost every possible shot angle with your sloppy butterfly and fat poo-filled body just as you should.  It's boring. I do not want to watch pucks bounce off a stationary mountain of jiggling flesh.  Please retire immediately so we can get some 5' 5" 140 lb guy between the pipes who will let in like 6 goals but make at least one incredible reflex save per game.  I will think that guy is awesome!

 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kenneth Toilethole on June 02, 2011, 12:49:34 PM
That's just how North American goalies are trained now. They don't make saves, they block shots. Tim Thomas proves that statement wrong, but that's only because he's old enough (he is the last active Quebec Nordique draft pick) to have missed that trend.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on June 02, 2011, 02:26:29 PM
Yeah, I guess you're right and it's smart to play that way with the high tech equipment they have now.  But it's boring.  If he's going to goal tend like a fat blob, Luongo could try to look cool.  Instead he wears boring white pads and the lamest mask ever. 

I wanted Thomas to win that duel so bad.

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kenneth Toilethole on June 02, 2011, 04:23:11 PM
I agree 100% with everything you said except the mask. This is the lamest mask: http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Kittens-The-key-ingredient-to-any-intimidating-?urn=nhl-267252

Jonas Hiller's is either also totally lame or totally badass depending on how you look at it
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on June 07, 2011, 01:11:26 PM
I was reading this recap/analysis of the women's USA soccer friendly vs Mexico (http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/news/_/columnist/carlisle_jeff/id/6628580/us-women-finish-their-pre-world-cup-friendlies-win-jeff-carlisle-soccer) when I came across this passage:

Quote
The heroic play of Mexico's defense can't be discounted either, with 16-year-old Mexican goalkeeper Cecilia Santiago producing a string of excellent saves.

WHHHAAAATT? The best woman keeper in all of Mexico is a 16 year old? Does that seem strange and unexpected to anyone else? Holy crap.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: scuba on June 09, 2011, 06:26:10 PM
"Ha-ha" -Nelson Munce

Five Mexico Gold Cup players test positive. (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/927130/five-mexico-gold-cup-players-test-positive?cc=5901)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on June 09, 2011, 06:52:46 PM
Nooooooooooooo Guillermo Ochoa  NoooOOOOOOOOOooooo! ??? >:( :'(



Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2011, 09:57:05 AM
Nooooooooooooo Guillermo Ochoa  NoooOOOOOOOOOooooo! ??? >:( :'(

I saw that this morning and instantly thought of you. Oddly enough, though, this longer article (http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/news/_/id/6645794/positive-tests-oust-five-mexicans-soccer-players-gold-cup) says "Clenbuterol is used in some countries to treat breathing disorders, but also has been used as a weight-loss drug." You'll notice it doesn't say anything about it being a performance enhancing drug. Weird, right?

Poor Guillermo. This probably means that his chances are improved for a move to a Championship level side, but it also probably means that his work visa might not be approved. Haha.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on June 12, 2011, 04:06:18 PM
The Washington Generals just plain suck.  Like not even in that Cubbies kind of way where they could be seen as lovable losers.  No, they're just losers.  If you lose that often to the Globetrotters, a team that alone I could probably beat, then you should just pack it up.  When you guys go home for the holidays, do they just tell people that they're fluffers just to mitigate the shame?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on June 14, 2011, 07:52:14 PM
Peoria Chiefs Honor 2011 Le Bron James Championship (http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20110614&content_id=20465038&vkey=pr_t443&fext=.jsp&sid=t443)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on June 15, 2011, 08:15:54 AM
Quote
In addition to the LeBron replica ring, the Chiefs are looking into whether or not the game can skip the fourth inning to honor King James who took off the fourth quarter of every finals game.

Awesome.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kwyjibo on June 15, 2011, 08:34:59 AM
Quote
Fans will also have the opportunity to learn how to perform the Heimlich to prevent themselves or their colleagues from choking in a big situation.

Ha.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on June 15, 2011, 10:11:58 AM
Peoria Chiefs Honor 2011 Le Bron James Championship (http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20110614&content_id=20465038&vkey=pr_t443&fext=.jsp&sid=t443)

INTERNET WIN!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on June 17, 2011, 04:08:05 PM
The fact that Rory McIlroy looks exactly like the lovechild of Danny Noonan and Maggie O'Hoolihan makes watching golf approximately 177% more fun.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on June 19, 2011, 01:20:37 PM
I guess it's only just sinking in, really, the fact that Hannover have actually achieved something and made it in to the Europa League next season. I know I mentioned it before around here, but I'm absolutely knocked out that my beloved piece of shit team are going to taste, if only fleetingly, European football. Fucking wonderful. If we get relegated next year and booted out in the first round of every cup competition, I won't give a fuck. I'll have seen my boys, alongside some of my best mates, play in Europe. That's pretty special.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on June 20, 2011, 09:34:05 AM
This should go without saying, but I trust you are actually going to GO to the games, right? You'd better.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on June 26, 2011, 09:47:22 PM
Man, Mexico kind of ripped us a new one last night.

I'm just gonna say that I think Bob Bradley often takes too much crap.  I like that we played a bit more of an open style, even though it may have been a factor in our loss and we sucked at it.  We need to learn to play that way.  We should ditch the tired 4-4-2 and do more of it.  I don't care if we lose short-term. 

Bornstein is not good.  I think we all knew that.  I don't mind that fact being clearly established and now we don't have to see him in a US shirt for a while.  It actually wasn't all his fault.  Mexico was going to pick apart the worst defender and it happened to be Bornstein.  If the worst defender had been Cherundolo, it might be Cherundolo who looks bad today.  Of course it doesn't change the fact that Bornstein is our worst defender; I'm just saying he isn't THAT awful.  Awful enough not to be on the team, though.

Giovani Dos Santos is awesome.  He's so awesome in fact that up until a few months ago, I didn't even realize he was an actual player.  I had him on my Football Manager team and won like a zillion titles with him.  The only reason I ever let him leave was because 1)  I got ridiculous money for him, 2)  He wanted something like $150k/week in wages which he fully deserved only I didn't feel like paying it, and 3)  He mentioned he wanted new challenges.  It was only fair.

But anyway the point is that Dos Santos is so good in FM Manager that I thought he was a made up random computer generated guy.  No one real player in the game is that good.  I would say he is on par with 2007 FM and 2008 FM Marquinhos or Francisco Guillermo Ochoa.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on June 27, 2011, 08:48:25 AM
I think one thing the Gold Cup made clear is that the US lacks any real defensive depth or strike options.  Dempsey is our most creative striker but works best in the advanced midfield area.  Altidore is probably our best pure striker, but once he got hurt, we were screwed from that standpoint, as shown by the fact that we were playing Donovan up front to start Saturday night. 

Mexico just went back to #1 in CONCACAF.  I hate to say I don't totally blame Bradley, but he is in some part responsible for our complete inability to develop any defenders over the past few years.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on June 27, 2011, 10:13:54 AM
I felt that Mexico was clearly the better team and deserved to win. It's sad because I am obviously pro-USA Dos Santos was so good the other day that it made me scared for the next few years, as him and Chicharito will just be picking us apart.

The US scored 9 goals in 6 games. Mexico scored 22! That's telling enough. We couldn't stop them, but no one else could either. Prior to the final I had been mostly happy with our defense. Goodsen played well, Lichaj stepped up his game during the tourney, and Bocanegra playing CB was a good tactical decision. Tim Ream stunk it up, but I guess we all figured that out.

As for Bradley - I find that in soccer the coach gets blamed much too much and is used as a scapegoat. I don't know enough about the game to know if the loss was his fault or not, but I'd assume he's doing a good job.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on June 27, 2011, 01:20:32 PM
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6707994/hard-lessons

Well written argument about the problems with the USMNT. I like all of his points, but I also think he (probably purposely) didn't address one key element: the USMNT wanted to win the Gold Cup so they'd have an invite to the Confederations Cup...another place great for establishing your team. So many of Bradley's roster decisions may have been due to this urgency.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on June 27, 2011, 02:05:27 PM
I agree with the general premise of that article.  I think the US needs to quit worrying about playing boring, fundamental soccer that defeats crappy teams 1-0.  The problem is larger than just losing that game or Bob Bradley.

Which is also why I don't understand why the article then focuses on Bradley.  Bradley took a pretty big risk bringing in Freddy Adu, and there was quite a bit of bitching about it.  Now everyone is complaining he didn't play Adu enough.  So he can't win.  The team also had Altidore, Lichaj, and an 18 year old Juan Agudelo.  All the young stars were there. 

I would also have liked to see the US think more long-term even if it meant losing the Gold Cup.  But it's not going to happen.  People will complain when we win boring 1-0 matches, then they will complain if we play more open and lose 4-2.  They will complain that Adu got picked.  Then when Adu is good, they will complain that Adu didn't play enough.  Bradley's getting criticized for picking Bornstein, who was not even going to play.  Had Bornstein played well, he'd be taking shit for not playing Bornstein more.  Instead he's getting roasted for picking the wrong substitute left-back, which let's face it is not that critical.  Especially since we just don't have any good defenders.

I'm not defending Bradley so much as complaining about the complainers.  Bradley is a rather mediocre coach for a rather mediocre side with a rather mediocre federation.  There are better coaches out there, but none of them are falling over themselves to coach here.  And even if they did, they are not going to get very far with the talent and support available to them.

That Mexico team is extremely good.  If they came to the Gold Cup to play (which obviously they did) there was really not much question about whether they were going to beat the US.  Basically, a bunch of pro-US soccer bozos continually overestimate the quality of the US team just because we feel like Americans are so awesome.

So to me, it's not a "humiliating loss."  It was actually a helluva try.  The two goals the US scored were nice.  And we totally caught Mexico off-guard.  And if Cherundolo hadn't gotten hurt we might have actually held on to win it.  Bob Bradley got his tactics right.  I thought he generally coached a good tournament.

If you want to complain about the bigger picture, then Bradley and Gulati and pretty much everyone with anything to do with USSF should have been fired years ago.  I understand the whole "change the culture" argument.  But it's like everyone suddenly wants Bradley gone because we lost a tournament we weren't going to win to the team that was supposed to defeat us.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on June 27, 2011, 02:29:31 PM
Is there someone you have in mind regarding replacing Gulati? I like where your head is at, but I haven't a clue who should run USA Soccer.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on June 27, 2011, 03:05:12 PM
I don't either.  Maybe the problem is bigger than Gulati. 

It just seems like US soccer is too small a place.  You get a lot of wannabes who want to be the big fish so maybe there isn't anyone.  I think you'd have put all your trust in one visionary-type like Klinsmann even though it is a huge risk.  I'm not sure I'd be comfortable making that move if I were running things, so I highly doubt a bunch of egotistical jerks who are all about power and politics are going to do it.

All I'm saying is, like it's not just the USMNT.  I don't think the MLS is very well run, or the women's league.  And the lower leagues are definitely a complete disaster.  The USWNT seems to have taken a step back as well.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kenneth Toilethole on July 07, 2011, 07:55:22 AM
Now that Mike Commodore plays for the Red Wings, I would consider getting his jersey if he switched to #64.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poolio on July 07, 2011, 12:31:57 PM
Now that Mike Commodore plays for the Red Wings, I would consider getting his jersey if he switched to #64.
Time to start that letter writing campaign.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on July 08, 2011, 09:49:26 AM
Walk off homeruns are great.
Walk off grand slams are even better.
Walk off grand slams when your team is down 3 is unreal.

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on July 08, 2011, 02:04:17 PM
In FM2010 one of my computer generated players that I signed as a 16 year old and then developed was named Jose Moreira. He was a midfielder that as a 16 year old my scouts said he had Premiership potential...maybe even leading star potential, I don't remember.

In fact, here are some of his screen shots:

As a 17 year old in 2013:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/mistergugi/FM2010/Moreira.jpg)

In 2016 he looked like this:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/mistergugi/FM2010/2016Moreira.jpg)

In 2019 he looked like:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/mistergugi/FM2010/2019-Moreira.jpg)

So there's his development. He was always considered by me to be one of my 1st tier players, but often would be on the bench if I was playing my whole starting XI. If I was in the middle of lots of fixtures then he saw tons of playing time. In other words, his stats at the end of the year suggested that I used him plenty, even if he wasn't a full-time starter. One year when I was short of midfielders, and I think he was 18 or 19, I used him as my corner-cheat shot taker and he scored a boatload of goals. This led him to finishing runner-up in the European Midfielder of the Year award, which stunned me.


Anyway, what's the point of all this?

This point is... 29 year old goalkeeper Jose Moreira is joining Swansea from Benfica.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14087660.stm

I'm stunned...and nostalgic.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on July 13, 2011, 03:03:00 PM
Well, maybe this thread isn't missing. But all of our comments about the USA-Brazil game are gone. Boo. There was some good conversation in there.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on July 18, 2011, 11:42:47 AM
Jim Thome has 596 homeruns. As a former member of the Cleveland Indians' best teams he always has a soft spot in my heart, but even as a casual Jim Thome fan ... man, who knew he was so close to 600? Wow.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on July 18, 2011, 04:38:31 PM
The US women performing a spectacular choke job, losing the lead twice and completely blowing the PK's.  We couldn't have shot those penalties worse if we had members of the crowd come down to attempt them.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on July 18, 2011, 06:30:30 PM
My new favorite player is Alex Morgan.  I like that she has kind of rich chick name, looks like a rich chick, and is in fact a rich chick.  She runs like a girl, too.  Except she is awesome.  That goal she scored was hilarious.  First, she bodied up her defender perfectly.  She actually didn't outrun her or have a better angle, she just used her body to get in front.  There was even a bit of an LT-like "swim move."  Then at the end, she coolly slotted home with ice in her veins.  In between though, while she was dribbling, she looked like she was going to start skipping any second.

My co-worker did a pretty awesome but devastating imitation of her today.  She saw me come in this morning and started running down the hall towards me with mincy little girly steps, arms up, wrists forward, feet swinging outward, making girly noises "Squeee! hey RVA?  Who am I?  I'm going to score! teehee!"  This is the best imitation I have ever seen from her, barely edging out her Amy Rodriguez imitation (goofy, shuffling trot followed by a hangdog look that transforms into a saucy wink along with a "thumbs up.")

This was especially amusing given that my co-worker, while a very nice person, is not really very whacky and therefore not prone to physical comedy.  I think I've only seen her do three imitations in like ten years:  Amy Rodriguez, Alex Morgan, and me throwing a softball. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on July 19, 2011, 09:18:36 AM
My new favorite player is Alex Morgan.  I like that she has kind of rich chick name, looks like a rich chick, and is in fact a rich chick. 

Don't forget that she's dating a Seattle Sounders player - something very rich chick-ish.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on July 19, 2011, 09:23:34 AM
There are several really stupid pix from her Cal-Berkeley days floating around on the internet.  They don't help her case.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on July 19, 2011, 10:13:29 AM
Plus the story about how her parents offered to buy her a Lexus for scoring goals in high school.

I would pay $100 to sit in a bar with Megan Rapinoe for an hour and listen to her dish on Morgan.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on July 19, 2011, 11:09:28 AM
When I was something like 10 or 12 years old I entered a kids bowling league. I think I talked my mom into giving me $10 for every strike. That was the greatest thing ever.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on July 19, 2011, 11:57:54 AM
It's probably not a good sign for your Farm System when your best prospect looks like Pookie from New Jack City.


Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on July 19, 2011, 12:06:14 PM
The Mets signed Fernando Perez today, after he was cut by the Cubs last week.  Hang in there, Fernando!

xQjt0Xzb5F8
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on July 28, 2011, 03:36:04 PM
Bob Bradley fired today.  We'll see whose next.  My money is on Bruce Arena 2.0!!!!!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on July 28, 2011, 03:49:12 PM
Bob Bradley fired today. 
WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO!
Have you thrown your hat into the ring? You have lots of Football Manager experience. :)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: dirk on July 28, 2011, 04:52:03 PM
Today marks my favourite sports day of the year....the start of the summer X-Games.  I get 4 days of actual sports I REALLY enjoy.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kenneth Toilethole on July 28, 2011, 09:34:30 PM
Now that Mike Commodore plays for the Red Wings, I would consider getting his jersey if he switched to #64.
Damn..

Defenseman Mike Commodore on twitter:

"I guess word is out that I will be wearing 22 this year. It was a really tough decision that I went back and forth on many times ... wearing 64 would have been neat and cool, but I just didn't feel like this was the right year to do it. In my opinion getting an ... opportunity to play in Detroit is a special thing, and I felt like I needed to wear a # that is special to me. 22 is that # for me ... I really appreciate the interest and support the #64 generated, I wish (@CommodoreUSA) all the best with (their) computers, as a matter a fact I am going to order one when I get to Detroit ..."
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on July 28, 2011, 09:41:07 PM
It's pretty cool that he'll match the pledges people made to charities if he took #64 though.

Although since the pledges were contingent upon him wearing the 64 jersey, is there really anything to match?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kwyjibo on July 29, 2011, 07:35:58 AM
Wait, is he saying Commodore still makes computers?

ETA: Yes, please.  (http://www.commodoreusa.net)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on July 29, 2011, 09:52:19 AM
Random: A s@!%#ton of interesting things happened in the sports world yesterday. Bradley getting fired. The Indians traded for Fukudome (I'm not exactly thrilled, but still it's nice to have a healthy veteran on our team). Haynesworth and Ochocinco to the Patriots. Kolb to the Cardinals. Whatever other trades I've already forgotten about.... etc. And not one of them involved something actually happening on the field.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on July 29, 2011, 12:27:44 PM
Jurgen Klinsmann gets hired.  The hire they should've made 4 years ago.  It's a dangerous time for US Soccer... let's hope this is the man to see it into the 2014 World Cup rather than losing out in qualifying as they looked like doing in the Gold Cup.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on July 29, 2011, 12:49:35 PM
Yeah, if they'd made the move 4 years ago it would have been a good one.

As it is, I think it's more an indication that USSF still have no idea what they are doing.  We didn't want him in 2006, but after it turns out that Joachim Low might have been the real genius in the German ranks and after Klinsmann absolutely sucked coaching Bayern Munich... now we want him.

The big plus in this is that Gulati might fork over some authority to Klinsmann.  So it's really more of Klinsmann replacing Gulati (which is good), rather than Klinsmann replacing Bradley (which I don't care about).

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on July 29, 2011, 12:57:14 PM
We didn't want him in 2006, but after it turns out that Joachim Low might have been the real genius in the German ranks and after Klinsmann absolutely sucked coaching Bayern Munich... now we want him.

I don't think Klinsmann "absolutely" sucked.  It looks like he kept them right around their expected performances before and after he was there.  I would say he was average there.  I guess the hope is that the National level is where his genius lies.  I guess we shall see.

Agreed on Gulati.  US Soccer needs new blood all around.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on July 29, 2011, 01:23:43 PM
Yeah, if they'd made the move 4 years ago it would have been a good one.
Yes! Agreed.

Quote
We didn't want him in 2006, but after it turns out that Joachim Low might have been the real genius in the German ranks and after Klinsmann absolutely sucked coaching Bayern Munich... now we want him.

That's funny because what I read somewhere (SI.com? ESPN.com? Something like that) is that we did want him in 2006 and even offered him the post. He wanted more control than US Soccer was willing to give him, so they were never able to come to an agreement. Thus...we did want him back then, but we were too bullheaded to cede to his demands.

Now he's hired - does that mean US Soccer changed their minds, or he lessened his demands?

Also - will this cause a problem for Michael Bradley?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on July 29, 2011, 01:34:14 PM
We wanted Klinsmann twice.  Both after 2006 and 2010.  He kept the US hanging for months while he demanded control and Gulati hemmed and hawed between his ego and conservative nature vs. yielding to his demands.  I don't think either side ended up looking very good after that drama.

I do think Klinsmann brings some quality to the table, he's just in the wrong role.  I think he's good at bringing about "soccer culture" and administrative stuff, and would be a good right hand man for Gulati.  But I don't think he is that great of a coach nor is his heart truly in it.  And I think he likes soccer more than he likes being a coach.  So an administrative position where he's away from the press and the soccer field and can concentrate on development and big picture shizz would be perfect.

The thing with being the men's coach is you have to work with what you have.  You can't suddenly start playing European style creative football with players who have grown up their whole lives playing a certain way and are built to be good at it, and play that way with their club teams and then in like two weeks you suddenly change it all.  We are still fundamentally a fast, fit, strong, counter-attacking side.  And we need to change that but it happens slowly.  And it won't happen with the players we currently have.  It'll take a bunch of years.   So I fear that the USMNT may actually kind of suck while he's coaching.  And then he'll get fired and not get a chance to do all the things he is good at.

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on July 31, 2011, 07:41:57 PM
Bwahahaha!  Man U. U-17s crushed by Qatar in Milk Cup, 5-1.

I think the key for Qatar was signing Roy Race and those two guys from Spandau Ballet.

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on August 05, 2011, 01:48:54 PM
While I find that most articles from The Onion (http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/manager-pitcher-go-through-entire-bottle-of-wine-d,20983/?utm_source=recentnews) are funny because of their silliness, this particular article hit home a little too hard. (http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/cleveland-pathetically-celebrates-greatest-sports,20819/?utm_source=recentnews)

I'd actually argue that this is not an Onion article and rather 'news,' which makes me extra sad.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on August 05, 2011, 02:16:13 PM
This Onion headline got a snort out of me this morning: Cris Carter Enters Football Hall Of Fame As Paying Customer
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on August 09, 2011, 02:17:49 PM
I am unusually excited about today's SFC-Torquay United matchup in the Carling Cup.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on August 09, 2011, 05:11:04 PM
Portsmouth 0 - 1 Barnet
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on August 09, 2011, 10:50:55 PM
I've never even heard of Barnet. Ouch.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on August 09, 2011, 10:57:03 PM
Usually, my games watched at GABP record closely matches the Reds actual record.  Except this year where I am 3-12 on the season.  I've not been to a winning game since the second week of June.  Two more games this week to go and six after that, so the percentages have to be in my favor, right?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on August 10, 2011, 12:04:05 AM
I've never even heard of Barnet. Ouch.

They're in League Two with Gillingham and Torquay United.  Only not as good.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on August 11, 2011, 09:51:58 AM
Watching the USA vs Mexico game last night, around the 50th or 55th minute I said to my roommate: what I'm seeing here is that the only guys who are doing anything of note the guys who played for the National Team previously. You know, under Bob Bradley.

Of course, the rest of the game was a bit different, once Mexico started making all those subs, but Brek Shea sure looked great. He needs to be sold off to an EPL side so he can become the next Clint Dempsey.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on August 11, 2011, 12:42:35 PM
Exactly, man. 

And all the dudes who were kinda sucking were guys who had played under Bradley and everyone complained about when they were.

Brek Shea looked real good.  However, on basically every other occasion he's played for the US, he has looked like ass.  I'm not totally convinced it wasn't luck.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on August 11, 2011, 01:21:30 PM
Brek Shea looked real good.  However, on basically every other occasion he's played for the US, he has looked like ass.  I'm not totally convinced it wasn't luck.

Well, according to everything I've read, that's only been 2 other times. So in 2 times, when he was younger and less experienced, he sucked. This year in the MLS he's dynamite and he carried it over to the National Team. It might be luck but there's other factors suggesting it's skill.


What bugs me about every article I've read is that they talk about how the subs sparked the US back into the game. They don't talk about how Mexico had subbed off half of their starting lineup, too. I know Gio Dos Santos was one of those subs, but I'm guessing the other 5 were 2nd stringers. Which would mean that we looked good once Mexico took out their best guys, so we all shouldn't be so excited about that performance.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on August 14, 2011, 08:50:34 AM
Hannover have been drawn to play against Sevilla in the Europa league qualifying match. Yes, that's fucking Sevilla, who are rather good. I really wanted to get a draw against some club from the Faroe Isles or Cyprus due to the fact that we're a shit team and could do with a hefty portion of luck, but no, we had to get drawn against those talented and altogether vastly superior cunts from Spain. I forsee an early exit from the tournament. Good job I like Tapas.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on August 16, 2011, 11:07:25 AM
I REALLY REALLY do not like the away kit for SFC this year. Yellow and Blue? Ugh. I know there's some history with the colors, but I guess I'm a traditionalist and think black or white should be the alternate jersey...not yellow. What does yellow have to do with Red and White stripes? BLECH.

I can't stand seeing these photos with the squad wearing this kit.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on August 23, 2011, 08:22:45 PM
The stats for my fantasy team so far today:

Starting lineup of 14 batters:

.083 BA (1 for 12), 0 HR, 0 R, 0 RBI, 0 SB

My bench of 4 batters:

.750 (9 for 12), 2 HR, 4 R, 5 RBI, 2 SB

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on August 29, 2011, 09:50:49 AM
This weekend, I watched Stubbs strike out 5 times, two Reds (Willis: 3, Cueto: 1) pitchers get 4 hits, Phillips make 3 very nice defensive plays, 2 walk-off wins and suffered one possibly broken pinky catching a foul ball in the upper deck.

All in all, a dandy weekend at GABP.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on August 29, 2011, 10:38:03 AM
This weekend, I watched Stubbs strike out 5 times, two Reds (Willis: 3, Cueto: 1) pitchers get 4 hits, Phillips make 3 very nice defensive plays, 2 walk-off wins and suffered one possibly broken pinky catching a foul ball in the upper deck.

All in all, a dandy weekend at GABP.

That's brilliant. I miss baseball.

In other news, 96 actually fucking beat Sevilla in their Eruopa League qualifier! Sevilla are/were one of the favourites, and my team of jokers actually beat them. My mates and i were full of the joys that evening. It was a great result, and we're now looking forward to travelling unchartered territory, namely the Europa League proper.

The draw for the groups was held the other day, and we're up against Standard Liege, FC Copenhagen and some Ukrainian mob I've never heard of. Looks like Awaydays in both Belgium and Denmark are on the cards. Unbelievable, really. It's real Roy of the Rovers stuff. I love my club :)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on August 30, 2011, 01:44:04 PM
From the BBC: "West Ham's Scott Parker hands in a transfer request and nears a move to Tottenham as activity hots up ahead of the transfer window closing on Wednesday"



Ummm, since when is it "hots up"? Shouldn't it be "...as activity heats up..."? Hots is not a word, thank you very much.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on August 30, 2011, 04:18:02 PM
I hope that potential Scott Parker deal falls through.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on August 30, 2011, 04:19:29 PM
It is to British people.  Particularly when applied to transfer activity.  They actually use pretty much that exact phrase in Football Manager.

That always amused me.  That and "profligacy."  Another one from Football Manager I didn't think anyone really used until I saw it used all the time in BBC, also in the exact same phrase ("profligacy in front of goal").

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on August 31, 2011, 10:24:19 AM
Yeah, I saw it in FM and just assumed it was a glitch/typo or whatever.
The first time I saw profligacy I had to look it up. I couldn't criticize because I felt it extended beyond my vocabulary.

I challenge you to use profligacy in a sentence today. Not in writing - in speaking. It doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on September 09, 2011, 05:32:55 PM
I hope that potential Scott Parker deal falls through.

Fuck.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on September 14, 2011, 01:15:11 PM
Next year, the Marlins will be the Miami Marlins.  That is going to excite their fan.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on September 14, 2011, 02:24:13 PM
Hah!!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on September 14, 2011, 03:06:22 PM
I bet that fan is older than Jack McKeon. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on September 14, 2011, 03:36:53 PM
I just figured out why, despite Tim Howard, I don't like Everton very much. They are the Toffees. I don't know what a Toffee is, but it sure makes me think of two things:

Taffy and Coffee.

And I don't like either of them.

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on September 14, 2011, 03:43:23 PM
You don't know what toffee is?  What are you some kind of diseased freak?  You're sick in the head. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 14, 2011, 04:02:28 PM
I concur.

Has nothing to do with taffy nor coffee.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on September 14, 2011, 04:08:44 PM
Researching soccer team nicknames was one thing I really enjoyed about playing Football Manager. 

The Cottagers?  What the crap?

The Baggies?  The Brummies?  The Toffees?

The Fucking Douchebags?  Why would they call ManU that?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on September 14, 2011, 04:46:52 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toffee

Is that it? It sounds good, I guess, as long as it's the softer variant and not the crispier stuff they are describing.

I will still think of Coffee and Taffy, though.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on September 14, 2011, 05:07:16 PM
You're mad in the head.  Sick in the soul.  All your stars flew away a long time ago. 

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 15, 2011, 07:43:39 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toffee

Is that it? It sounds good, I guess, as long as it's the softer variant and not the crispier stuff they are describing.


Have you never had a Score or Heath bar?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on September 15, 2011, 09:50:10 AM
Score? Is that a candy? No.
Heath bar I've heard of...yes, but I don't recall having one. Maybe I did when I was a kid, I dunno.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on September 15, 2011, 10:19:09 AM
I believe it is "SKOR" not Score.  I didn't know those were still around.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 15, 2011, 10:39:39 AM
Ah, indeed it is.  And yes, they're still around.  I find them superior to Heath, personally.

Dan, I'm with RVA, there's something wrong with you.  Go buy a Heath or a Skor.... like, now.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on September 15, 2011, 11:10:03 AM
Ah, indeed it is.  And yes, they're still around.  I find them superior to Heath, personally.

Dan, I'm with RVA, there's something wrong with you.  Go buy a Heath or a Skor.... like, now.

At lunch I'm making a run to the convenient store. I will buy them both.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poolio on September 15, 2011, 11:13:24 AM
Ah, indeed it is.  And yes, they're still around.  I find them superior to Heath, personally.

Agreed. Skor is better IMHO. Although, I do like Heath bars too, and will buy the stock of them when they show up in the vending machines at work.

Dan, I can't imagine how you'd escaped a Halloween without having a snack size Heath bar landing in your trick or treat bag.
 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on September 15, 2011, 01:02:59 PM
Ikea's Dime/Daim Bar for the win
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on September 15, 2011, 01:13:22 PM
No way, man.  Vosges Bacon Caramel Toffee rules.

You wouldn't know a sticky toffee pudding from a spotted dick. 

No wait, that's me.

Also, I don't know about Europe but Ikea has stopped selling the Daim in the US.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 15, 2011, 01:17:49 PM
Also, I don't know about Europe but Ikea has stopped selling the Daim in the US.

They had them at the Cincinnati Ikea as of a month or so ago.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on September 15, 2011, 01:24:22 PM
Duane Reade does not seem to carry Heath/Skor candies. I even went to the one that seems to have the better candy selection, of the ones near my office. Sorry guys - I will keep looking though.

Instead I bought a Hershey's mix pack of chocolates and decided that a Take 5 is delicious. No toffee involved, however.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on September 15, 2011, 02:22:18 PM
Also, I don't know about Europe but Ikea has stopped selling the Daim in the US.

They had them at the Cincinnati Ikea as of a month or so ago.
They had them there as of last Thursday!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on September 15, 2011, 03:31:43 PM
All I know is I was at the Ikea in Woodbridge last weekend, and they were out of them.  I overheard someone ask an associate about it, and the response was they weren't going to sell them anymore. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poncho on September 15, 2011, 09:59:46 PM
They had them in Orlando last Saturday when I was there.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on September 22, 2011, 11:50:25 AM
Of late, me and one of my mates at work have been compiling lists of imaginary football XI's, all themed. We've had Nutters XI (People like Terry Hurlock, Mark Dennis, Mickey Droy), a Wankers XI (Jens Lehmann in Goal of course), and so on. We've had a Gary XI, a Terry XI, a best US players XI, and so on ad infinitum. Recently we got a bit stumped whilst doing our "Pat XI". We'd done well but got to the point where we had two places to fill. Bear in mind we do all this from our memories of the game, no computer search engine aid allowed, we we're starting to get a bit fucked off with our inability to finish the team.

Anyway, we managed to fill the team in the end. Everyone remembers Sir Pat Lofthouse and Patt Le Tissier, right?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on September 22, 2011, 12:39:59 PM
Did you include Pat Viera?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on September 22, 2011, 12:46:14 PM
Yes, of course Patt Le Tissier was cousins with Pat Derbyshire, wasn't he?

Who was in your US XI?



http://espn.go.com/espnradio/grantland/player?id=7000493

Those guys on that podcast did an "all hair XI". It would have helped if I actually knew what the players looked like.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on September 22, 2011, 01:09:42 PM
Pat Viera! We begrudgingly DID choose him for the team (effing Gooner). Quite a few Gooners in the team as it goes, but Pat Jennings gets let off for being a nice bloke and a former Yid :)

Dan, I cant remember all our US XI as it's on a post-it note stuck to the wall in my workshop, but Meola was in goal, Cherundolo was my right back (and Captain), we had John Harkes, Coby Jones, Alexei Lallies (CR will get that one), Eric Wynalda (I know, he's a wanker), Clint Mathis and a few others. No sign of Roy Wegerle, though. I put Bocanegra in, too, but my mate thinks he's shit.

Edit to add: We've done a hair XI too, but I have to check the note at work and post it here sometime. Jason Lee, Valderrama and Gazza's hair extensions from when he was at Lazio are all in, though. And of course, Chrissy Waddle.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on September 22, 2011, 02:36:22 PM
Edit to add: We've done a hair XI too, but I have to check the note at work and post it here sometime. Jason Lee, Valderrama and Gazza's hair extensions from when he was at Lazio are all in, though. And of course, Chrissy Waddle.
Your keeper has to be a toss up between Higuita and Seaman?!!

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on September 22, 2011, 02:56:51 PM
We forgot about Spunky! That said, we very nearly chose Higuita, but we eventually plumped for that Bulgarian International keeper who used to wear a fucking rug.

I think his name was Mikhailovic. Dreadful faux-barnet. Talking of which, we called our hair team "Blistering Barnet XI". We work long and hard hours, thank god for football and tea breaks for a little entertainment and banter :)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on October 03, 2011, 03:22:48 PM
Considering my two college football teams are uninteresting this year, I think I'm gonna jump on the Clemson bandwagon until they lose. 23-3 over VTech! That's impressive. I wanna watch some of their games.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poolio on October 08, 2011, 08:51:35 PM
What? No way! (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-cole_al_davis_respect_100811) I have had many issues with Al Davis over the years but he definitely made a mark on the sport.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on October 09, 2011, 05:38:23 PM
I thought he died 8 years ago.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on October 17, 2011, 02:34:25 PM
So I finally gave up and cut Donovan McNabb before this week from my fantasy football team.  Leaving me with 3 QBs... Matt Stafford, Andy Dalton, and Jason Campbell.  Campbell and Dalton splitting starts based on matchups.

Of course, Campbell goes and gets hurt right when I do this, so now I have no QB backups and bye weeks on the way for Stafford and Dalton.  I am sure next week, Stafford will probably hurt his shoulder again.

Not that McNabb was much help from a fantasy standpoint, but it's always the position I leave vulnerable that gets screwed.

For example, I only drafted 2 RBs and had LT as a deep bench backup.  LeSean McCoy and Jamaal Charles... naturally, Charles leaves in the first quarter of the 2nd game with a severe leg injury, out for the season.  It just wouldn't be a fantasy season if I wasn't the first one in my league to be screwed on injuries.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on October 17, 2011, 03:16:37 PM
Did anyone else enjoy watching Florida's head coach lose his shit on Saturday? I still can't believe Muschamp basically called a time out so that he could cuss out every official on the field. Priceless. I loved that he would put his headphones back on and seem to get back into the game and then snag them off and start foaming at the mouth again.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on October 17, 2011, 03:19:23 PM
Was too busy enjoying Clemson's awesome comeback at Maryland, but I did see the footage later. 

That was a horrible bullshit call, though.  So might as well get your money's worth.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on October 17, 2011, 03:20:00 PM
http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/news/_/id/7114120/foreign-owners-english-premier-league-oppose-relegation-system

Foreign owners in the EPL want to remove the promotion-relegation system from the Premiership.

OF COURSE THEY DO! It means that the teams they are spending money on will never lose all that TV money and Champions League potential. OF COURSE. They want to make sure that if they suck at running their club it won't matter and they can still continue to suck and make a ton of money.

The promotion/relegation aspect is, potentially, the best thing about soccer. They better not freaking remove that.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on October 17, 2011, 03:27:14 PM

The promotion/relegation aspect is, potentially, the best thing about football. They better not freaking remove that.
I repeat that x 1,000,000!!!!!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on October 17, 2011, 03:37:41 PM
It's a fucking joke, that. Bunch of cunts. If they remove relegation and promotion, there would be a ferocious and almighty shitstorm. Totally bonkers.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on October 17, 2011, 03:39:20 PM
That's the problem with sports. They aren't businesses and thus they aren't set up to reward success and punish failure. On the surface they are - success equals 1st place and a championship and failure equals last place. But that's hardly a punishment. In business if you are a failure you disappear while in sport 99% of the time no one disappears. They just simply come back for another season. In the US, we even reward failure with the top draft pick! In European football the relegation is the closest thing we have to 'disappearing' because of your failure to run your team well, and although that is a mighty punishment it's still only partially appropriate. If you looked at all the clubs in the Football League in 1926 and looked at how many are still around today you'd find that almost all of them are still here.

If we take away that one puny method of punishment we are stuck with the Royals and the Pirates. Blech.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on October 17, 2011, 08:33:22 PM
I'm actually okay with this.  Relegation doesn't really get rid of the bad teams nowadays.  It mostly just shuffles out one group of teams with no chance for another group of teams with no chance.  Man U and the like are never in any danger of getting relegated.  And if somehow they were, you can bet that things would somehow get rigged so it wouldn't happen.  In the US, we have the draft and salary caps which actually make the leagues a lot more even.  They don't have that in Europe.

Let them have their no-relegation super league for all the plastic fans.  I don't care.  In fact, let's bring back the European Super League concept and put all those teams in it together so we don't have to deal with any of them any more.

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on October 18, 2011, 01:25:16 PM
I'm not okay with it. I know that the top 10 teams or so don't have any chance of being relegated, and I'm fine with that. It's the rest of them that do, though, and that's what's fun. Stoke City wouldn't be where they are if not for that system. SFC wouldn't have much to look forward to if not for that system. Leeds is doing just fine after being relegated, and hope to go back up sometime soon. It's a fine system. The relegation battles (just think about last May!) would be meaningless and be just like the Royals or Pirates finishing out a season. Borrrring.

The Euro Super League, though, is fine in my book. I think it'd be fun. Can we make it a promotion/relegation system, too?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on October 18, 2011, 03:35:43 PM
I don't think I would use Leeds as an example of how well the current football system is working.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on October 18, 2011, 03:45:38 PM
They are drawing tons despite being in the lower leagues? They were punished for making poor front-office decisions? Why not? I thought that was a decent analogy. What history about them am I missing?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on October 18, 2011, 04:24:58 PM
What does it mean when a team is playing a "direct" form of football?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on October 18, 2011, 06:22:27 PM
It typically means a team is going directly at the goal, essentially getting the ball from one end of the pitch to the other quickly.  It's not totally synonymous with either long-ball or counter-attacking but is typically featured in that kind of play.  Basically, not a lot of dribbling or dorking around with the ball to waste time, wait for support or holding possession.

The closest American sport analogue in US sports would be like a transition team in basketball.  Lots of back and forth and fast breaks as opposed to a slow-it-down half-court style.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on October 20, 2011, 08:31:48 PM
This whole EPPP thing is exactly why I don't care about relegation.  It's a complete joke.  And I think it pretty much destroys England as a footballing power (not that they weren't on the way out anyway), because who in their right mind would even bother to develop young players?

I want to see the Saints qualify for promotion simply as an achievement, but I have no desire at all to actually watch them participate in the Premier League.  They don't want to get relegated to Championship, fine.  The feeling's mutual.  I don't want to play with a bunch of assholes.

Let them have their Premier League, entirely separate from everyone else so they can stop holding everyone else hostage.  And they can take their dickhead plastic fan with them.  The Championship will just be the top tier of REAL football for REAL fans, and the Premier League will be where all the assholes go so they don't bother everyone else.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: va-vacious on October 20, 2011, 11:28:17 PM
I had no idea that the world series had started until someone mentioned it at dinner tonight. I knew who wasn't in (Tigers, Philly), but couldn't say who was. And I find myself not really caring one way or the other.

Evidently I'm not a baseball fan.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: frizgolf on October 23, 2011, 10:44:04 AM
My biggest problem with the world series (heck, most sports any more) is that the games are on too late.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on October 23, 2011, 02:59:21 PM
Alex Ferguson's in trouble with the Queen of England. Something about a sick swan...
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on October 26, 2011, 11:53:50 AM
RVA:  Hey man, you get FM 2012 yet?

Friend:  Yeah, I just got it!

RVA:  Got any hot tips on good players?

Friend:  Naw.  I was trying to come up with a list earlier of people to check out.  Like try to watch some Italian League or something.

RVA:  Yeah, I wish they had some U-21 or whatever.  Olympic qualifying would be great.

Friend:  Maybe on YouTube.

RVA:  Hey, yeah.  Great idea!

*after an hour and a half of google searching players and watching YouTube videos*

RVA:  Hey, is this cheating?  Because our game selves don't know who these players are.

Friend:  No.  The game is unrealistic.  You don't think a real-life coach wouldn't have some staff watching video footage and doing web searches on prominent young players?  I mean, if we know who they are then they do.  Plus, we really don't know the game stats of these players so we're taking a risk by signing them just based on what we read and see.  If anything, it's harder and more realistic than just scouting a player in the game.

RVA:  Because hey wait, i's "realistic" because it actually is real.  We're scouting players in real-life....but... we're not... real coaches?  Wait.  No.  NOOO!

Friend: Holy shit.  We just watched an hour of footage FOR A VIDEO GAME. 

RVA:  My God.....

Friend:  So what about his kid from Gremio?

RVA:  Yeah, definitely.  I like his pace.  If he's under a mil, I'm buying.

Friend:  Okay, yeah. I agree.  I'll put him on the list of attacking midfielders.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on October 26, 2011, 12:58:01 PM
If the game rates that guy Zaha from Crystal Palace as well as the SFC announcers do, then I highly recommend him. At least scout him if nothing else.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on November 01, 2011, 11:00:08 AM
I figured out a relegation scheme which can never happen in real-life, but would be really cool.

If you win at the highest level of domestic competition, the next day all of your registered players are released from their contracts, and your team is relegated to either the third or fourth division.  So say, League Two in England.

It's like a video game.  When you win the domestic title, you have truly "won."  That's as high as your team can go, and would truly be a huge accomplishment.  So then you start over again with a new team.  You'll still have all your reserve and U18 players, and of course you're a gigantic and rich team so you should climb up the ranks pretty fast, but you still have to climb them all over again.

So what happens to the players that are released from their contracts?  Well, they can sign for you again if they choose (but they'll be playing League Two), or they can sign with whatever other team they want.  BUT they also get an additional bonus of being eligible for Super League Competition, should they choose to pursue it.

The Super League Competition will be the highest level of European football.  Each FIFA/UEFA sanctioned country gets one team, but those teams don't represent their country but rather their domestic league.  No one is eligible to play in the Super League at all unless you have won a domestic league title.  And each Super League team must have at least 20 registered players (out of 25) who qualified out of their domestic team.  eg. England would have to have 25 players from the EPL.

That would be so much fun.  It would mean that Man U couldn't win every year, just by the rules.  And second, Man U. can't hoard all the good players because every time they win, they go to League Two and all their players will move on to Super League or some other team.  And they will have a hard time convincing Premier and Championship players to move down several leagues to play for them in League Two.  So if Man U wins the title even with their huge money advantage, they'll still have earned it by working there way up through the divisions.

Every year, there would be a mass scramble for players.  And if you are a player, you have a tough decision to make.  Say you are Ronaldo.  If you decide to play for the team that pays you the most or has the best chance of winning a title, you might end up winning the Premier League.  Which means that when you join the Super League it'll be harder for you to play for any team other than England.  And you might not want to play for England because Spain is where the money's at.  Or, (and this would not apply to Ronaldo)  you might not be a totally greedy, selfish prick and you might actually want to represent Portugal's Primeira League.

Everyone in England will presumably root for the English team, which means that Man U fans will have to root for ex-Man City players and vice-versa.  And if you follow your club team more than your league team, it means you'll really have to be a big fan to watch Man U play in League Two.  And Man U being in League Two will increase revenue for League Two.  Probably there would still be enough Man U fans to get some League Two games televised.  So football fans would really have to follow (and gain respect for) every league as their team progresses (and then regresses).

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on November 01, 2011, 11:04:01 AM
Watch the mad scramble at the end of the season to see who will blow games on purpose to stay in the EPL!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on November 01, 2011, 11:55:06 AM
If teams want to lose games on purpose to maintain an mediocre EPL standing, that's up to them.  I think they'd pretty much lose all their fans that way though, so it wouldn't help them in the long run.

But if Man U or Man City want to stay in the EPL so bad, I'd rather see them intentionally lose as opposed to the current situation, where they basically demand that the FA hand them a top four spot every year. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on November 01, 2011, 01:40:20 PM
There has to be an appeal to winning the league despite being sucked down to League 2 other than saying that you won the league. Otherwise... it sounds fun and intriguing.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on November 01, 2011, 03:47:55 PM
Well, that's both why it is awesome and why it will never work.

The appeal to winning the league SHOULD be that you won the league somewhat fair and square by climbing your way up from League Two to do it.  It really would be an accomplishment to be proud of.  As opposed to buying and bullying your way to yet another title based on a ridiculously lopsided rule system that you continue to try and make even more lopsided.

But since that is really not what sports is about these days, the appeal of actual sporting accomplishment will never overshadow that of money and fake accomplishment.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on November 08, 2011, 02:41:54 PM
So, JoePa to survive this at Penn State?

More important question, should he?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on November 08, 2011, 04:34:00 PM
I'm not a JoePa fan at all.  But honestly, I don't think he did anything wrong (unless something else came out today, I haven't been following).

A guy comes to you and tells you that he saw something in the shower.  You have absolutely zero idea if it is true or not, but it is obviously quite serious.

If I were in the PSU legal department, I would absolutely have a designated channel and procedure.  Because I don't want JoePa calling the cops and saying something accidentally that opens him or the university up to some kind of legal suit.  And the PR people are going to want to know early on so they can figure out any potential fallout.  And the HR people need to know so they can start the paperwork on firing this guy.  And the campus security people need to know so they can start investigating.

So basically, yeah.  I would tell Paterno not to call the cops without calling me first.  And then I will take care of it.  And I would say that not just trying to cover the client's ass but also for the good of the kids.  If we can call the cops discretely and tell them what's up and then next time this guy shows up to go to his office we just nab him.  That's much better than it leaking to the press and then everyone gets dragged in and everything gets all sloppy and its a legal nightmare to prosecute the guy.  Or who knows if the guy might go crazy and take some kids hostage or something?

Paterno was concerned enough about the story that he reported it to the people presumably he was supposed to report it to and who should have the training and personnel (or access to them) to deal with it.  It was those guys who were jackasses and are now looking at jail sentences.

The only thing Paterno really did wrong I guess was not follow through.  But I don't know.  That's just kind of human.  He's a busy guy, he doesn't want to believe it's true, and he's been told to leave it up to other people to handle.  So why would he?  Had he gone around channels or whatever he would be a hero (or maybe a much bigger villain).  As it is, he did his job as football coach.  I really can't see a problem with it.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kenneth Toilethole on November 09, 2011, 07:55:17 AM
I agree with what you are saying that Paterno did nothing wrong. That's why he is not in any legal trouble, where the AD is actually in legal trouble along with losing his job. BUT, for Penn State football to survive this, Paterno has to go. Penn State football is the front porch of that university and Paterno is the manager. He did the bare minimum expected and while that would be fine if this was a matter of a booster or something similar to the Ohio State situation, we are talking about sexual assult of kids. The way Paterno is getting athletes to go there relies heavily on the pitch that parents can feel like they are sending their kids away to program run by someone that will be a father figure. Now he will be skewered by rival schools as the creepy "uncle". Its unfortunate, and not fair, but JoePa will have to leave. There's too much money at stake for the university.

Its really too bad that he will end up like Woody Hayes. From now on, any description of his career will include the ugly ending. "He was a great coach, but...."
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on November 09, 2011, 08:09:37 AM
Plus Paterno was allowing Sandusky around the program and to have use of the facilities well after the 2002 incident.  I don't think he survives the season, and probably shouldn't.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on November 15, 2011, 05:18:45 PM
Why my wife is cool as shit: I'm sitting around, reading about Rick Perry's DC apocalypse thing when the phone rings.  It's Mrs. Foolsgold.  "Guess who will be at Redsfest," she says breathlessly?

"Who?"

Her voice shaking from exhilaration demands I guess.  "I don't know?  Pete Rose, maybe?"

Delirious with excitement, she squeals out, "Nooooo?"

I was stumped.  Who could it be?  "Is Chuck Harmon still alive?"

She could barely contain herself.  "Nooooo, I mean, yes, he's still alive, but it's not him."  

"It's been a long day, babe, who is it?"

Playfully pouting, she says, "Boo, you're no fun.  Well, since you won't guess, I'll just give you two names: George and Foster."

If there was a way to high five my wife over the phone, I would have done it.  "Imagine," she continued, "George Foster at something in Cincinnati.  I'm surprised isn't doing a commercial for Joe Morgan Ford or he's not standing beside someone when they're opening an email."

I love when my wife talks shit about ballplayers.  And, for the record, we're both Foster fans.  It's really terrific to see one of the great Reds in the community so much.  And I do mean "so much."
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poncho on November 16, 2011, 09:27:31 PM
Foster was my favorite player as a kid.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on November 17, 2011, 11:13:18 AM
George Foster scared the crap out of me.  He had a really evil-looking face. It was like ratty and sneaky, but somehow badass at the same time.  And he seemed to have the ability to change his skin tone at will. 

You know what I mean?

Like the only thing keeping him from shivving you from behind was the fact that he'd decided it would be way more fun to beat the crap out of you face to face and make you suffer more.

And the only thing that kept him from beating the crap out of you face to face was that he'd decided it would be even MORE fun to stare at you with that squinty-focused yet somehow lazy-grinned look while slowly turning beet red, and watching you wet yourself.

I've heard he's actually a pretty nice guy.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on November 17, 2011, 11:37:32 AM
He is a nice guy.  We've met him a handful of times and he's always been really kind with us and other fans.  He jokes, answers questions, signs autographs and takes pictures.  Like I said, it's really great having a Big Red Machine member who is that accessible.

We also met Joe Morgan at a season ticket holder thing and he was, more or less, the same way.  Bench, from what I've heard, is a bit tetchy, but is very generous with local charities.  I met him once in grade school and remember being so awestruck that I don't even remember him being nice or a jerk.  It was Johnny Bench when he was still the Reds catcher and I was 7 or 8.  He was a God to me.

Pete Rose, on the other hand, is a world class asshole.  Won't sign autographs or pose for pictures unless there is something in it for him.  Actually, he never does anything unless it benefits him directly.

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on November 17, 2011, 02:04:37 PM
I thought I posted this before, but I have a friend who used to work card shows and such.

He said that Rose was a complete asshole publicly, as I can verify from personal experience and I'm sure so can just about everyone else.

Bench was also kind of an asshole, but I guess mostly privately.  He had very strict demands and everything had to be perfect or he'd blow a gasket.  But he was always very professional and nice to fans (if only to keep up his image) so if you met him at a show you got your money's worth.

Tony Perez was apparently super, super cool and would go out of his way to help out. Partly because he was a nice guy, but I guess also partly because he wanted things to go well for both sides, and it was a group effort and so whoever could chip in should chip in.

My friend said one time they didn't set up Perez's section at a show for some reason.  So he ran over there, and Perez had figured out where he was supposed to be, gotten a folding table and a couple of chairs and set it up his own little section and was already signing.

You know how they try to make it into a little booth with by sticking up some folding wood thing in the back with some photos and jerseys or whatever?  Well they had a display for him hadn't set it up and I guess part of the delay was that they'd been frantically trying to find it.

Perez had just borrowed one of those fold-y wood things from one of the card vendors and set up his own display!  Like I guess he had some stock photos he brought.  And some people were selling Reds batting helmets or maybe even a Perez vintage jersey and probably some Perez baseball cards.  So he was like "Hey, can I borrow that?" and just kind of pinned it all up.

The best part was he found a sheet of paper and wrote "Tony Perez #24 (Reds)" in black magic marker on it.  Like you know, he didn't want to brag about it, but in case you were wondering, it might be helpful for people to know he played for the Reds.

Also, Bench and Rose hated each other and were hard to get along with.  So everyone would just go through Perez.  "Hey Tony, do you think you could get Pete to maybe pose for a picture with this guy?"  "Hey Tony, Johnny Bench threw his coffee at one of the helpers, do you think you could calm him down and maybe sign something for the helper to make up for it."  "Hey Tony, is there any way you can convince Bench and Rose to stand within 15 feet of each other so if we shoot from this angle it will look like a group photo?"
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 17, 2011, 02:11:28 PM
I hear Bench will handle your bat for free....


What?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on November 17, 2011, 05:22:01 PM
Hurray!  The Astros are moving to the AL in 2013!  Only one more season that I have to see them in nearly half the games I go to in a year.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on November 17, 2011, 11:07:30 PM
Hurray!  The Astros are moving to the AL in 2013!  Only one more season that I have to see them in nearly half the games I go to in a year.

Agreed! never made sense to have them in the NL Central
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on November 18, 2011, 08:08:30 AM
Finally get the NL Central to not be the most ridiculous division in all of baseball.  "Hey, let's make you climb through one extra team, every year!"
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on November 18, 2011, 12:09:39 PM
No longer the NL Central's sixth finger.

I never really understood Astros fan's love for the NL Central.  We have a great rivalry with the Cubs!  Plus another one with the Reds!  What will we do without that?!?

It's true the NL Central doesn't like you.  But it's not a rivalry.  No one wants to beat you, they just want you to go away so we can play more games against teams we actually care about.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poncho on November 18, 2011, 05:34:15 PM
Most know that baseball died for me in 1997. 


However, I have read some about this Astros switch and it doesn't make any sense... you pull the Brewers from the AL, only to send a lifetime NL member to the AL?  How about shipping those Brewers back?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: rva on November 18, 2011, 06:46:18 PM
Are you asking why they ARE moving the Astroles or why they SHOULD move the Astros?

The real reason it is the Astros is because Selig has the Astros by the balls.  They need a new owner, and he wouldn't let the new owner buy the team unless he agreed to move them.  It would be much harder to strongarm an existing owner.  Especially if that owner happens to own the team you used to own.

The reason they SHOULD move the Astros depends on whether your sensibilities run NL/AL or geographic.

If you're only going to move one team, it has to be a team from the NL Central to the AL West.  The Brewers geographically make much more sense in the Central with other Midwest teams.  It keeps the travel costs down, and most teams are in the same time zone and fans can travel to other cities to see their team.  And just, all those cities already have rivalries in baseball or some other sport so it just kind of feels right: eg.  Packers/Bears, Bengals/Steelers, Cubs/Cards.  The Brewers in the AL West makes no sense at all.

OTOH, the Astros don't make much sense in the NL Central.  They are so far away from everyone, and really just no one cares about them as you can tell by the fact that Cubs fans and Reds fans are both happy about this.  The Astros admittedly also don't make a whole ton of sense in the AL West.  But they make at least a little more sense as that is where the Rangers are.

But if you think about your teams more in an NL/AL sense then you are right that the Brewers feel a little weird in the NL so it makes more sense to move them back where they came from.

Obviously there's a lot more possibilities if you move two teams.  But even then, the best two team move is probably Diamondbacks to the AL West.  They fit geographically, they don't have a real NL history being so young.  And they were supposed to have been in the AL West in the first place but decided to act like dicks about it.  But if you do that, then the Astros have to move to the NL West.  That might be preferable to an AL move for Astros fans, but it's still having to move the team.

So one way or another, unless you are going to do a massive re-shuffle, the Astros at least look like a pretty strong candidate to move, even if the Brewers are as well.  And again, it just so happens Selig used to own the Brewers, and the Astros need an owner.... so now it's no contest.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on November 18, 2011, 08:20:50 PM
But how do you guys feel about the idea of having 15 and 15? That means there's always an interleague game no matter what day it is.

I don't know if I care, but I'm wondering if you guys care?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on November 29, 2011, 05:01:58 PM
It's such a tragedy seeing Chelsea in this poor run of form, isn't it?










Ignore me, I've just been huffing solvents again. I meant to say it's utterly brilliant.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on November 29, 2011, 05:18:01 PM

Ignore me, I've just been huffing solvents again. I meant to say it's utterly brilliant.
Natural Born Huffer, that Rafe.

PS: Yay, 'Pool. I'm glad that Bellamy was back and seemed to really play the match as a fine tribute to Speed. Can't wait to see the highlights.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on November 29, 2011, 06:21:15 PM
Last of the International Huffers :P



Yes, It has been an emotional few days over here for all those folks like Bellamy who were close to him. Tragic, I can't possibly imagine what the family are going through. Good guy, desperately sad way to go.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on November 29, 2011, 08:48:32 PM
I really honestly did a double take when I saw that Chelsea score. I figured I'd misread it.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Predot on November 29, 2011, 11:15:45 PM
But how do you guys feel about the idea of having 15 and 15? That means there's always an interleague game no matter what day it is.

I don't know if I care, but I'm wondering if you guys care?

I hate it, particularly since, I believe, it's going to add 12 more of those Godforsaken wild cards to the schedule.

I've pretty much disliked everything that's gone on this offseason, up to and including today's announcement that the Red Sox are about to hire Bobby Valentine to manage.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on November 30, 2011, 08:05:45 AM
But how do you guys feel about the idea of having 15 and 15? That means there's always an interleague game no matter what day it is.

I don't know if I care, but I'm wondering if you guys care?

If it gets the Reds in a 5 team division and spreads out the interleague games instead of having them all on like 3 weekends, then I'm fine with it.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on November 30, 2011, 08:28:59 AM
Oooh, are they talking about spreading out the interleague games? I just assumed it'd be the three weekends, plus one random matchup at all times.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: lutz on December 06, 2011, 05:09:12 PM
Man Utd fans face long trip to Manchester for FA Cup tie (http://newsthump.com/2011/12/05/man-utd-fans-face-long-trip-to-manchester-for-fa-cup-tie)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on December 06, 2011, 08:12:37 PM
That's hilarious.

I hate all things ManU so any jokes at their expense are fine by me.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: mik on December 08, 2011, 10:32:28 AM
WOW - Albert to the Angels for $250 million. That is crazy money. I wonder where Prince is gonna end up.....
 :o
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Homsar on December 08, 2011, 01:46:08 PM
Yeah did not expect the Angels.  More good news for the Reds though, eh?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on December 08, 2011, 01:49:23 PM
We all have Pujols
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on December 08, 2011, 05:25:29 PM
You'd think all those "specialty" films I did in college would make mine worth $250 million, but no. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on December 11, 2011, 12:33:22 AM
How about that all-out brawl at the end of the Xavier-Cincinnati game. Wow, just wow... Reminded me of the Reds-Cardinals brawl from last year.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: frizgolf on December 11, 2011, 09:11:45 AM
How about that all-out brawl at the end of the Xavier-Cincinnati game. Wow, just wow... Reminded me of the Reds-Cardinals brawl from last year.
Somewhere Andy Furman is sitting back lighting a cigar every time his name comes up. He must be so proud.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on December 11, 2011, 01:18:18 PM
I... want to be proud of UC for not going down without a fight, but I don't mean it in a literal sense. It's a shame and all those players need to learn the difference between sports-hate and actual hate. I sports-hate the Yankees and Michigan, but I don't actually hate anyone from either place. It looks to me like the players are still figuring that difference out.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on December 11, 2011, 11:13:16 PM
How about those suspensions given to the UC and X players? Yancy Gates get only a 6 game suspension, which means only 2 meaningful games (given the UC cupcake schedule). Wow.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on December 12, 2011, 08:51:18 AM
Typical classy UC and XU behavior.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on December 12, 2011, 12:35:30 PM
Iím good with the suspensions, even if a few are way too light.  But all those calling for players to be kicked off the team and lose their scholarships is just an emotional and ill-reasoned response.  Stepping away from the situation, I think Chris Mack (Xís coach) also should be suspended a couple games for not roping his players in/letting them do a press conference when emotions were running high.  All game, Holloway was running his mouth and at halftime, Cronin even warned the refs that things were getting out of hand.  But Mack let things escalate.  Besides, what was he doing playing starting players at the end of the game with a 20 some point lead?  He was running up the score.  Suspend him.

Also, shut down the XU student section for a few games or so.  Let them know that the kinds of tasteless taunts they were hurling are not acceptable in any sporting arena.  Itís not clever, just stupid.  Every time I go to an X game, I am stunned with how awful X fans are.  For being the "good" school in town, many are malicious and vindictive with their support.

The players, in spite of everything, are kids still and they are going to act irresponsibly unless authority figures bring them in.  I think too much expectation is put on their shoulders (true of any college athlete) when, really, they're doing the same sort of dumb stuff that all college kids do.  They are going to lose their heads at times and have to be firmly reminded that they represent the team, school and community.  Certainly, suspending them is more than called for and they need to take legitimate responsibility and remorse for that embarrassment.  Word on campus is that Holloway met with the president and during the press conference actually looked like he did understand the consequences of his actions. 

That said, where the hell are the universityís presidents?  There is a running joke on campus about where in the world is Father Graham, but he really, really should have gotten in front of this, speaking from the heart and not some press release bullshit.

Dan said it best.  Fans need to be able to differentiate between sport hate and actual hate.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on December 12, 2011, 01:44:14 PM
Iím good with the suspensions, even if a few are way too light.  But all those calling for players to be kicked off the team and lose their scholarships is just an emotional and ill-reasoned response.  Stepping away from the situation, I think Chris Mack (Xís coach) also should be suspended a couple games for not roping his players in/letting them do a press conference when emotions were running high.  All game, Holloway was running his mouth and at halftime, Cronin even warned the refs that things were getting out of hand.  But Mack let things escalate.  Besides, what was he doing playing starting players at the end of the game with a 20 some point lead?  He was running up the score.  Suspend him.

So you are good with "Zip 'em up"?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Homsar on December 12, 2011, 01:50:11 PM
If only Gates showed that emotion during the games!

I believe I saw Cronin say something like, "We have to figure out who's still on the team now."
And they get 6-game suspensions.  Ha!

UC: "Almost and not quite!"
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on December 12, 2011, 01:53:14 PM
Where did I say I was?  Of course not, but I think that the comments need to be viewed with some perspective.  Combine youth, heated emotions and a  ridiculous culture of any slight, real or perceived, means they're being disrespected, shit like this is bound to happen.  That is why the coaches, or at the very least, AD/Sports Information Director should have kept any player miles away from a microphone.  I just can't even begin to understand the stupidity of that move.

All that said, Holloway got off way too light.  Maybe not 6 games, but, at least, 3 or 4.  

On the whole, both schools have handled the game and situation poorly.  From the slaps on the wrists to the carefully worded press conferences, to the presidents not really doing a whole lot right away.  It's a shame, really is.  
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on December 12, 2011, 02:01:24 PM
It all smacks of inmates running the asylum, and programs who are too afraid or too lacking in morals to deliver a real message to any of these players.  Gates and the guy who kicked Frease need to be gone from the UC program NOW.  Frease somehow escaped suspension despite going after UC fans in the crowd (unsuccessfully).  Holloway was egging the whole thing on from the sidelines.  But he may miss an important game if the suspension was longer than 1 game, so we can't have that.

Oregon's previous football coach suspended RB LeGarrette Blount for essentially the entire season a couple of years ago for sucker punching a Boise State player in the first game of the season.  And we are talking college football, so that was essentially a 10 week suspension.  6 games in the non-conference college basketball season?  Might as well just pat their back and tell them "good job".
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on December 12, 2011, 02:30:26 PM
I'm going to have to disagree that anyone deserves to be booted unless they've done this sort of thing before.  Let me know what you think about this (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/979235-xavier-cincinnati-suspensions-are-in-line-with-past-ncaa-punishments-for-fights) article which states that the suspensions are in line with punishment vetted out by previous on-court altercations.  I don't really follow college sports closely, but inadequate suspensions don't seem to be limited to the policies of these two schools.  Basically, it highlights what is wrong with college sports as a whole, not just between two schools.

That said, I'm an alum and employee of X and really wish X did more than a slap on the wrists of the players.  I don't know, I just think that we should be better than that.  Naive I know, but it's constantly drilled into our heads that we are supposed to be responsible, discerning and compassionate members of the community.  Their handling of the situation is, as you alluded to, is just a cynical protection of potential revenue.

Which, to be honest, means job security, so I feel like I spouting off against my own self-interest.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on December 12, 2011, 02:54:47 PM
I agree with these 2 lines in the article:

"Even though football plays significantly fewer games than basketball, their punishments for fighting appear to be more flexible and often can be more severe."

"Basketball's 23-year-old automatic (one game) suspension rule (for fighting) just might be a little outdated."
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on December 13, 2011, 09:40:50 AM
Why yes, group of mouthy women who are self-professed sport unenthusiasts, I would love to hear your thoughts on the brawl and how you could totally clean up sports if only you were given the opportunity to be heard by the unidentified powers that be.  

Fun facts I learned this morning:
1. All athletes, but especially basketball players, are thugs.
2. Yancy Gates's lawyer made him to cry at the press conference.
3. XU was completely blameless in the altercation.
4. Student athletes should be role models to their community by staying in school for 4 years.
5. Anyone wanting to play professional sports must fully matriculate at college first.
6. Mick Cronin is a liar and Chris Mack spoke from the heart.
7. UC's entire basketball program are either rapists, murderers or serial impregnaters.
8. The brawl was just like that time that OSU quarterback who left early got into all that trouble.
9. The NBA would never stand for such things like the brawl and, apparently, are great at self-policing.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on December 15, 2011, 03:57:34 PM
Hannover 96 have only gone and qualified for the Europa League knockout stages just now. I honestly can't believe it. Can't wait for the draw, see which European giant we're going to be blown out of the water by in the next round!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: lutz on December 16, 2011, 08:25:41 AM
Gutted about Fulham crashing out of the Europa League, although it'll probably be better for their Premier League prospects. It's completely insane that to win the Europa they would have had to play 23 extra matches on top of league, Carling Cup and FA Cup fixtures.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on December 16, 2011, 08:42:48 AM
The police overkill for this coming Sunday's south coast Derby between Pompeii and Southampton is ludicrous. All visiting fans have to be police escorted down to Farton Park from the Southampton area by coach regardless of where they live. So, if you're a Southampton fan unfortunate enough to live in Portsmouth you have to drive to Southampton to catch one of the special coaches to take you to Portsmouth. Then, after the match, you are escorted BACK to Southampton where you will then have to drive back to Portsmouth.

Regardless of the result the Skates will probably end up smashing up their _own_ home city anyway... like they did once before. Because so many of them are wankers.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on December 16, 2011, 03:58:35 PM
The sports video of the day...

NoUNrjrRXw8
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on December 16, 2011, 05:05:50 PM
Haha. That tickled me.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on December 30, 2011, 12:24:23 AM
I will miss seeing hot cheerleaders in slutty Santa costumes for another year.

I don't know why.  Do they actually any show more skin/cleavage in their Santa suits than in their regular cheerleading gear?  No.  Is there something inherently erotic about Santa Claus?  No.  Am I just a guy with a soft spot for the Holiday season?  No.

But I will still miss seeing hot cheerleaders in slutty Santa costumes.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on December 30, 2011, 07:25:06 PM
Dude, when Mrs Claus looks like that, I'm always down with it. You need not over analyze why.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on January 03, 2012, 02:10:09 PM
So many great upsets over the weekend in the EPL (or BPL as they seem to be calling it on ESPN). Hopefully 'Pool pulls an upset over Man Shitty today. Come on you Reds!!!!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on January 03, 2012, 09:44:23 PM
So many great upsets over the weekend in the EPL (or BPL as they seem to be calling it on ESPN).

ESPN is never one to back down from supporting sponsors. The Barclay Premier League is the official title, so they might as well....
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kwyjibo on January 04, 2012, 08:33:41 AM
Frank DeFord said something this morning along the lines that the BCS is the goofiest competition since the Iowa Caucuses and the People's Choice Awards.  I thought that was hilarious... and true.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on January 04, 2012, 07:01:28 PM
Tim Howard's goal today vs Bolton amuses me to no end.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Homsar on January 05, 2012, 08:08:38 AM
Holy cow that was awesome.  Haha!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on January 09, 2012, 03:28:14 PM
Barry Larkin voted into the hall of fame.  It's about time.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Homsar on January 11, 2012, 08:11:48 AM
1. Seriously.

2. I can't wait for the Olympics.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 12, 2012, 12:34:02 AM
Is it me, or is "spin-o-rama type move" the greatest thing that has ever been written into the official rules of a sport?

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 12, 2012, 12:44:51 AM
Is Fellaini even good at soccer?

I can't figure that dude out.  It's like "Hey, watch me pull off the world's laziest Cruyff turn ever, for no reason at all because no one is within 10 feet of me."  "Watch me fail to jump for this header but get away with it on account of my good positioning and lanky frame."

It's like, if you're going to be lazy, be lazy.  It really costs you less effort to jump for a header than to read the pass and get yourself in a position so you can get away with not jumping. Or if you're going to be flashy, try some crazy move even if it doesn't work and it costs you a goal. 

I've never seen a guy waste so much effort in the laziest way possible.  Is this some kind of crazy football genius or what?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on January 12, 2012, 09:17:09 AM
I would put Balotelli in that group of "often too lazy to care, but usually brilliant in spite of himself" players.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on January 12, 2012, 06:04:03 PM
Is Fellaini even good at soccer?

I can't figure that dude out.  It's like "Hey, watch me pull off the world's laziest Cruyff turn ever, for no reason at all because no one is within 10 feet of me."  "Watch me fail to jump for this header but get away with it on account of my good positioning and lanky frame."

It's like, if you're going to be lazy, be lazy.  It really costs you less effort to jump for a header than to read the pass and get yourself in a position so you can get away with not jumping. Or if you're going to be flashy, try some crazy move even if it doesn't work and it costs you a goal. 

I've never seen a guy waste so much effort in the laziest way possible.  Is this some kind of crazy football genius or what?
Videos, please.
kthxbye.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 12, 2012, 08:01:23 PM
bvOZxLEk6Ew
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on January 12, 2012, 10:43:39 PM
Nice. Yeah, that was a sublime first move...and nothing after. Reminds me of Guly from last season, to be honest.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on January 13, 2012, 08:22:59 AM
Awesdome.

http://www.npr.org/2012/01/12/145125439/john-parr-writes-tim-tebows-fire-spoof
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on January 15, 2012, 11:17:17 PM
The tennis Australian Open is here! Woohoo!

If you have DirecTV, they have 6 channels showing games live  8)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: luisterpaul on January 23, 2012, 11:01:45 AM
(http://cdn.jockular.com/assets/images/2012/01/4f1d6828454ff.png)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on January 30, 2012, 12:44:06 PM
THE tie of the FA Cup 5th round will be:

Stevenage against the Yids! Split loyalties, here.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on January 31, 2012, 07:20:11 PM
Gillingham are woeful again. It's almost like they aren't comfortable unless they're losing regularly. I hate living in Kent.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on February 01, 2012, 09:51:10 AM
Just wanted to post that this has been a great week to be a Liverpool fan. WOOHOO! Carling Cup, FA Cup, and a freakin' win in the league. Thank you, Footie Gods.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on February 01, 2012, 10:36:46 AM
Plus, Dirk Kuyt scored a goal.  So that's like a Halley's Comet type occurrence.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on February 01, 2012, 03:45:26 PM
Plus, Dirk Kuyt scored a goal.  So that's like a Halley's Comet type occurrence.
+ Agger goal. Those don't happen often either.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on February 01, 2012, 03:54:06 PM
Even Andy Carroll scored!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on February 01, 2012, 04:36:59 PM
Even Andy Carroll scored!

From BBC Radio Solent:

"And Andy Carroll scored. Who's he?"
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on February 02, 2012, 04:44:43 PM
I've become despondent with the England national side over the last few years, and in particular the remaining members of the "golden generation". You know, poisonous bastards like Lampard, Terry and Cole. I'm rarely moved to emotion over anything in the world of footy gossip, but I'm absolutely livid that Terry is still captain of the national side, particularly in light of his recent run in with Anton Ferdinand. I don't want an openly racist bastard to play for my country in the Euro's, let alone captain the side. The FA and Capello are fucking weak, letting this one go.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on February 02, 2012, 06:58:19 PM
Harry Redknapp in court today:

Quote
"You think that I put my hand on the bible and told lies? That's an insult"

Definition of irony: The Bible says it's wrong to lie.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on February 03, 2012, 11:49:54 AM
I've become despondent with the England national side over the last few years, and in particular the remaining members of the "golden generation". You know, poisonous bastards like Lampard, Terry and Cole. I'm rarely moved to emotion over anything in the world of footy gossip, but I'm absolutely livid that Terry is still captain of the national side, particularly in light of his recent run in with Anton Ferdinand. I don't want an openly racist bastard to play for my country in the Euro's, let alone captain the side. The FA and Capello are fucking weak, letting this one go.

Great! They sacked the cunt this morning. Only good thing the FA have done in the last 25 years.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on February 03, 2012, 01:03:24 PM
I've become despondent with the England national side over the last few years, and in particular the remaining members of the "golden generation". You know, poisonous bastards like Lampard, Terry and Cole. I'm rarely moved to emotion over anything in the world of footy gossip, but I'm absolutely livid that Terry is still captain of the national side, particularly in light of his recent run in with Anton Ferdinand. I don't want an openly racist bastard to play for my country in the Euro's, let alone captain the side. The FA and Capello are fucking weak, letting this one go.

Great! They sacked the cunt this morning. Only good thing the FA have done in the last 25 years.
x2!!!!!!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on February 03, 2012, 07:22:03 PM
I've become despondent with the England national side over the last few years, and in particular the remaining members of the "golden generation". You know, poisonous bastards like Lampard, Terry and Cole. I'm rarely moved to emotion over anything in the world of footy gossip, but I'm absolutely livid that Terry is still captain of the national side, particularly in light of his recent run in with Anton Ferdinand. I don't want an openly racist bastard to play for my country in the Euro's, let alone captain the side. The FA and Capello are fucking weak, letting this one go.

Great! They sacked the cunt this morning. Only good thing the FA have done in the last 25 years.
x2!!!!!!
Remains disgusting that he's still eligible to be chosen and/or play in the shirt though
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on February 03, 2012, 09:07:33 PM
That was my first thought. So he's not captain... he's still going to be on the pitch.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on February 09, 2012, 11:10:19 AM
Capello out as manager of England.

Stuart Pearce is interim manager, but rumor is ol' Saggy Face himself is front-runner for the next permanent managerial position.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on February 09, 2012, 12:23:39 PM
Capello out as manager of England.

Stuart Pearce is interim manager, but rumor is ol' Saggy Face himself is front-runner for the next permanent managerial position.

Thoughts?
CR rant in 5...4...3...2...BOOM!

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on February 09, 2012, 01:42:22 PM
Harry Redknapp, Rube of the Year (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7556217/harry-redknapp-fabio-capello-future-english-national-football-team)


I actually enjoyed the article. I'm still pretty sure he's a twat, though.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on February 09, 2012, 03:17:48 PM
Thieving, cheating, lying, lucky cnut.

The fact that he is so many people's front runner for the England job says everything you need to know about the piss poor state of the English national set-up, and the mentality of the public.

The media want him in the job because they have so much on him they can sell millions more newspapers on the back of scandal. And he'll bring scandal. This latest court case is but the tip of an iceberg of rumours that have been kicking around for almost two decades about the bloke. How he likes 'brown paper envelopes' and a deal dodgier than dodge.

It's not as if his record is anything to shout about. Yes, he's done alright at Spurs, but aside from that he's 'stolen' one FA Cup Final, did fuck all at West Ham (except take them close to administration), fucked over Portsmouth twice, fucked over Southampton (Secret Agent 'Arry) and really achieved nothing of note other than be pally with his chums in Fleet Street and adopt a 'rent a quote' cheeky boy persona.

He's proved time and time again he's only in it for the money. The England job won't allow him to wheel and deal, ergo he will be absofuckinglutely crap at it.

The timing of everything - HR getting away with the tax fraud and Capello leaving - is all too fucking convenient for my liking, but there you have it.

Shame Martin O'Neill took the Sunderland job - he would have been the best fit IMHO, Irish or not, as at least he knew many of the players he would be toying with.

The best thing about HR getting the job is that he will be found out quickly and probably castigated by everyone before/during the Euros. What's the incentive for him to do a good job when he'll probably get a big pay-off and the freedom to then go out and screw over another club who are unaware he's not really everything he's cracked up to be? He'll say he's full of pride to be managing England, but instead he'll just be full of shit. Like he's always been.

I hated it when he was manager of SFC. One of the sorriest periods in our history IFAIAC. The worst manager we ever had aside from Ian Branfoot. Oh, wait, there was Poortvliet... no I think even he was better than 'Arry.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on February 10, 2012, 06:05:02 PM
Whoever gets the job, I hope they don't pick Terry ever again.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on February 13, 2012, 04:54:45 PM
FUCKING Gillingham. Load of old pony tonight, as usual. Goodbye playoffs, Hello, mid-table anonymity.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on February 16, 2012, 01:10:18 PM
They've been dismal of late.  Those high hopes of early to mid-December seem a lifetime ago.  Still, I'd love a chance to sit half frozen at Priestfield.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on February 23, 2012, 06:09:50 PM
They've been dismal of late.  Those high hopes of early to mid-December seem a lifetime ago.  Still, I'd love a chance to sit half frozen at Priestfield.
I'll tell you what, with only a few thousand fans turning up right now, it's a good time to get your voice heard if you want to wind up a Linesman :D



Tonight was brilliant - As I was travelling home from work, Hannover 96 defeated the Mighty Club Brugge to reach the last 16 of the Europa League, in Bruges. Standard effing Liege, who beat us in the group rounds are next - there's a good chance i'll get to see the home match (the 2nd leg) in mid-March, I've been saving like a fucking bastard to scrape together an air fare, and I was hoping to see the league game against Cologne that weekend. Looks like me and the boys might get the chance to see us in an historical match (for the club and the fans - we really arent very good) instead. Absolutely elated right now.

A day in the sun, metaphorically! Brilliant stuff :)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on February 23, 2012, 06:21:17 PM

Tonight was brilliant - As I was travelling home from work, Hannover 96 defeated the Mighty Club Brugge to reach the last 16 of the Europa League, in Bruges. Standard effing Liege, who beat us in the group rounds are next - there's a good chance i'll get to see the home match (the 2nd leg) in mid-March, I've been saving like a fucking bastard to scrape together an air fare, and I was hoping to see the league game against Cologne that weekend. Looks like me and the boys might get the chance to see us in an historical match (for the club and the fans - we really arent very good) instead. Absolutely elated right now.
Mighty Club Brugge? You gotta be joking, right? They've been pathethic all season. Couldn't score a SINGLE goal in 2 matches against Hannover 96. Pretty much like all Belgian clubs. Anderlecht? couldn't score a single goal in its 2 matches against AZ.

I'm predicting right now that Hannover will sail by Standard (who couldn't manage a single goal at home tonight against Mighty Wisla Krakau and only managed to advance on its sole away goal).

So yea, if you combine all 3 Belgian teams, they managed a grand total of ONE goal in six matches. ONE GOAL. Just pathetic.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on February 26, 2012, 02:53:29 PM
Best League Cup Final i've seen in many a year. Fucking Bin Dippers nicked it in the end! (congrats, Lando :D)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on February 26, 2012, 03:09:28 PM

Tonight was brilliant - As I was travelling home from work, Hannover 96 defeated the Mighty Club Brugge to reach the last 16 of the Europa League, in Bruges. Standard effing Liege, who beat us in the group rounds are next - there's a good chance i'll get to see the home match (the 2nd leg) in mid-March, I've been saving like a fucking bastard to scrape together an air fare, and I was hoping to see the league game against Cologne that weekend. Looks like me and the boys might get the chance to see us in an historical match (for the club and the fans - we really arent very good) instead. Absolutely elated right now.
Mighty Club Brugge? You gotta be joking, right? They've been pathethic all season. Couldn't score a SINGLE goal in 2 matches against Hannover 96. Pretty much like all Belgian clubs. Anderlecht? couldn't score a single goal in its 2 matches against AZ.

I'm predicting right now that Hannover will sail by Standard (who couldn't manage a single goal at home tonight against Mighty Wisla Krakau and only managed to advance on its sole away goal).

So yea, if you combine all 3 Belgian teams, they managed a grand total of ONE goal in six matches. ONE GOAL. Just pathetic.

No, I wasn't joking. Bruges are a "mighty" team for Hannover to have faced. The history at Club Brugge is riddled with domestic success, they played a European Cup final (if my memory serves), are second in the Jupiler league and Lorenzo Staelens used to play for them, who's a great bloke.

Hannover have never gone this far in a European competition before. Highest ever league position is fourth. We're shit. It's a nice time to be a fan right now. My previous post wasn't a conversation point, merely a statement from a happy guy.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on February 27, 2012, 05:27:48 PM
I'll deinitely be at that 2nd leg match against Liege. One of my mates has given up her ticket to me. I'm delighted, and utterly grateful. fucking football, eh? Brilliant.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on March 01, 2012, 10:56:11 AM
I think I really like the new US Soccer Away jerseys. I'm not completely sure, but my initial reactions are favorable.

(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-96316601417599_2200_3152686)

I like the white sleeve (even better with a long white sleeve), and I'm still a big fan of the sash. The darker blue sash on dark blue looks better than I thought it would. Unless that's a black sash - is it? I can't tell on my crappy monitor - and if so then it looks good, too.



Somewhat related: In college on my intramural team we didn't have jerseys and just wore the league provided pinnies over our shirts. I would often wear some random t-shirt underneath and sometimes the color of my t-shirt was the same color as the OTHER team's pinnies, which meant that from time-to-time they would see the right color out of the corner of their eye and pass me the ball. I loved it when that happened.  I don't think this happens with white so much, but it never hurts to try to get any little advantage, right? I guess you can Arsenal players if it's ever helped them.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on March 01, 2012, 12:20:21 PM
What are the thoughts about the win over Italy?  Seemed pretty flukey, but I guess it's a good sign?  Italy probably should've scored, and we really didn't have many chances at all.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on March 01, 2012, 01:02:49 PM
I didn't see it, so this is a dumb post, but...

I think that it was good to get a victory and good to see some of the players playing together, and really good to see most of the first team there. Otherwise, it was just another friendly. Klinnsman needs some victories to get respect from the media, the fans, and the players, so this will help. Italy was in a no-win situation - if they beat us then everyone says "who cares? It was crappy USA in a friendly" and if they lose then it's "how did you lose to a crappy USA team" so perhaps they weren't at their best, either.

I dunno - glad it happened and now we're moving on. I think the biggest winner was Dempsey. That guy is already the best player for the USA and he just keep building on that, which is great to see. I like him.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on March 01, 2012, 01:07:14 PM
I was reasonably pleased with it.  A bunch of things I liked:

1)  Bradley was really good.  He needs to be on the team and he showed why.  I was down on the guy initially like everyone else, but he really is a good player.

2)  4-5-1.  It's the best formation for the US because it allows both Donovan and Dempsey to come sneak in as trailing inside forwards from the wing or as withdrawn strikers, which is where they are best and they're the two best players on the team.  It's a 4-5-1 that really functions more as a 4-3-3 on offense, which also leaves room for Bradley as the holding/deep playmaker.  And Bradley is probably the third best player on the team.  It also means you don't have traditional wingers, which is great because everyone we've tried on the wings sucks ass.

3) Altidore FINALLY seems to have figured out the role of target striker.  Sometimes you need to turn and bang it into the net which is his instinct and not a bad one.  But more often, your job is to use your physicality and knock the ball down for a streaking Donovan/Dempsey.

Things I didn't like:

1)  Damn, our defense is bad.  And there's no excuse.  You change formations and tactics, the midfielders and forwards might get scrambled up, but a flat four in the back is always a flat four in the back and your defensive duties don't change.  You may change in your offensive support duties, but defense is always the same.  But I'm sort of giving the team a pass because, what can you do?  Our defense is shit.  The players and Klinsmann did the best they could with what they were given.

2)  Spector didn't start, looked fairly decent, and didn't get injured.  I suppose this is actually somewhat good news for the US team, but I don't care he plays for Birmingham.

I'm not buying the "Balotelli wasn't playing" thing.  The reality is Balotelli won't be playing a lot.  He'll either be suffering from grass allergies, suspended, feuding with the coach, or he might be on the pitch but pouting.  He can't be considered a real member of the Italian team.

That said, Italy is still a better team than the US talent-wise and the US was a bit lucky to win.  But that's just the way it is.  Hopefully we'll have some better talent coming down the pipe but for what we've got now, that was all you could ask for.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on March 01, 2012, 02:44:22 PM
Best League Cup Final i've seen in many a year. Fucking Bin Dippers nicked it in the end! (congrats, Lando :D)
Fanks, Rafe.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on March 05, 2012, 04:20:09 PM
That was a pretty awesome goal Japan scored today against the US women from a corner kick.  The kick was perfect, the timing was perfect, the header was perfect.  Downward into the low corner, with Hope Solo screened.  It looked like it came straight off the chalkboard.

Normally I hate trick plays like that because 9 times out of 10 they fail miserably.  I mean, you're going to run out and away and then pull a 270?  Just kick an inswinger in towards the back post and hope someone gets a head on it.  

Of course the 1 time out of 10 it does work, it looks pretty cool.  Not sure the US could have done anything about that one because it was just that perfect.  Still, they seemed a little caught unawares.  Which is dumb.  You are much taller, bigger, and stronger than the other team.  The other team is amazingly technically gifted.  What do you think is going to happen?  It's going to be some kind of trickmongery that pulls you out away from goal.  They don't have any other choice.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on March 06, 2012, 11:14:08 AM
Why is UVA considered "in" and Drexel is now on the bubble?

The ACC is the most over-rated conference like, ever.  Duke, UNC, FSU are all good teams and should be in.  It's a loooooong way from FSU to UVA.  But it's like sacrilege to only take three teams from the ACC even though the ACC hasn't deserved more than three teams in a long time.  And then they end up taking 7 or something because they can't distinguish between the next batch of teams.  Here's a clue:  If you can't distinguish which team is better out of 5 teams with mediocre records, it pretty much means they are all mediocre.  Don't send any of them.

I've seen VCU, Drexel, and UVA play this year.  I don't think UVA is better than either team. I don't think UVA is even as good as University of Richmond or George Mason.  They're about the level of ODU, really.  If Bazemore has a good game, ODU can hang with anyone.  If Bazemore doesn't have a good game, they're easy to beat.  UVA has Mike Scott instead of Bazemore is all.  And Mike Scott might not even be as good as Bazemore.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on March 06, 2012, 12:32:46 PM
I tweeted this (to my 6 followers) yesterday, but I really hate this: the crappy photos of the authors on Grantland.com. I read the site - cool, it's fine, think what you will, whatever - but the photos are HORRENDOUS. None of them look professional, whether we are talking about the quality and style of the photographer or the quality and style of the subject. They really make me hate the writers. The weird background doesn't help, they are all wearing horrible t-shirts, and none look like normal human beings.

I know the site is light-hearted and silly half the time, but I think if you're going to have photos of your writers then you should make the photos look good. Get rid of them or make them quality.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on March 06, 2012, 02:50:03 PM
You managed to say all of that in 140 characters? Impressive! ;D
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poolio on March 06, 2012, 08:47:29 PM
So.... Peyton Manning is getting cut from the Colts. Any bets on where he lands?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on March 06, 2012, 11:21:12 PM
So.... Peyton Manning is getting cut from the Colts. Any bets on where he lands?
Dolphins seem the logical candidate.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on March 07, 2012, 07:35:25 AM
Redskins. Dan Snyder loves overpaying for over-the-hill players and it's not like they have an incumbent.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on March 07, 2012, 11:13:15 AM
In the Algarve Cup final, Germany went up 2-0 on Japan with two goals in two minutes.  Japan clawed one back before half-time, then scored again at 56 minutes to tie it.  It was 2-2 into the 88th minute.  Then Germany scored.  Two minutes later, Japan scored to tie it up.  A minute after that Germany scored on a bicycle kick.

Sounds like a fantastic game.  Too bad no one cares.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poolio on March 07, 2012, 12:16:07 PM
Redskins. Dan Snyder loves overpaying for over-the-hill players and it's not like they have an incumbent.
An excellent point. One of the writers on Yahoo! make a reasonable case for Denver. Yes, it would piss of the fans mightily having Tebow benched but it would give Tebow at least a year or two to actually learn the game and (perhaps) clean up his throwing mechanics and he could do it all underneath a future Hall of Fame QB*.


*I'm assuming Elway stays away and lets the coaching staff do their jobs.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on March 07, 2012, 03:47:46 PM
I am quite positive that the Redskins will pay insanely stupid amounts of money for Manning.  Not as sure he'll go there.  I'm not saying he doesn't care about money, but I think at this point in his career he probably also wants to play for a good team/system/owner/coach and get one last shot. 

The Redskins are definitely not that team.  And Manning is smart enough to realize the fact that the Redskins would pay twice as much as anyone else would for him just highlights how bad their ownership is, along with the salary cap reality that they'll have no one around him.  He will want a lot of money, not sure he'll want what is very obviously a stupid amount of money.

Then again, maybe he wants the challenge.  If he wins with the Redskins he'll be God-like here.  And having pulled it off miraculous turnarounds with the Redskins AND the Colts... he might go down as the greatest QB ever.  Plus he'd get to play against his brother.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on March 07, 2012, 04:43:37 PM
I am quite certain that whatever Payton is going to do, it won't be because of the money. He's got more money already than he'll ever know what to do with the rest of his life.

The guy is 36. He's got MAYBE another year or two at most in him, at the level we're used to. Or maybe NOT. Nobody really knows. But he'll go to wherever he thinks he's got a shot at the top, and that ain't via the Redskins (too hard a division, for one thing). Plus he's been an AFC guy all of his career. I think'll he'll end up with the Dolphins, rather than the Skins.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on March 07, 2012, 05:48:02 PM
I'm thinking the Redskins, but he would be a god in Tennessee if he went there. It's amazing how many Tennesseans are Colts fans just because of him.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: va-vacious on March 07, 2012, 06:06:56 PM
Oh, I hope he doesn't go to Tennessee. (And I say this as a native born, Peyton-lovin' fool) I wish he'd retire while still great. And I wish he'd coach at UT, though I haven't given up on Derek Dooley. (How can I have them both?!?)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: mik on March 08, 2012, 12:04:39 PM
So.... Peyton Manning is getting cut from the Colts. Any bets on where he lands?
My bet is on the Jets......
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on March 09, 2012, 04:06:57 PM
It's an unofficial state holiday today. The office is so quite this afternoon.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: va-vacious on March 09, 2012, 06:25:19 PM
Because of the tournament?
I'm so out of the sports world.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on March 09, 2012, 08:16:26 PM
Because of the tournament?
I'm so out of the sports world.
Yep. (The ACC one.) NCSU, UNC, and Duke were all playing today.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: va-vacious on March 09, 2012, 10:49:40 PM
Isn't the ACC one the only one that matters? (ha ha ha ha)
That's what I thought, but wasn't sure.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on March 09, 2012, 11:47:04 PM
UC beats Syracuse. Is Mick Cronin finally gonna get some loving from Bearcats fans?

X beats Dayton. May have saved their season, and a Big Dance ticket.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on March 10, 2012, 11:33:44 AM
UC beats Syracuse. Is Mick Cronin finally gonna get some loving from Bearcats fans?

X beats Dayton. May have saved their season, and a Big Dance ticket.

Twas a great game to watch and awesome that we won. I was a little disturbed that we were up by 10 with 1:30 to play and needed all 10 points to withstand the Syracuse end-game strategy. But hey we won so who cares?  GO BEARCATS
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on March 10, 2012, 11:34:22 AM
Also - Football Manager 2012 is available for $6.52 (after taxes) on Amazon. Not sure how long this is available.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005WLRO4M?tag=d000001-20

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on March 10, 2012, 12:43:10 PM
Also - Football Manager 2012 is available for $6.52 (after taxes) on Amazon. Not sure how long this is available.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005WLRO4M?tag=d000001-20


You have to pay taxes? They refuse to collect NC taxes, which I don't think is right (the burden of paying sales tax is shifted to the consumer and how many do you think actually pay?!).

Thanks for the tip - I'm willing to give it a try at that price!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on March 13, 2012, 07:09:20 PM
I'll deinitely be at that 2nd leg match against Liege. One of my mates has given up her ticket to me. I'm delighted, and utterly grateful. fucking football, eh? Brilliant.

Two days until the biggest game in football history. As Graham Taylor would say, "Farkin' 'ell!". 2-2 after the first leg, so we need a goal early doors, then stick 45,000 people in the box for the rest of the game. I'm bricking it, but fucking excited at the same time.

On a slightly sad note, no beer will be served in the ground during the match. That's right. Kein alkohol. Ni alcool. Rien. A German team and a Belgian team. It's almost like Platini has castrated the fans, there.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on March 15, 2012, 07:00:51 PM
Two days until the biggest game in football history. As Graham Taylor would say, "Farkin' 'ell!". 2-2 after the first leg, so we need a goal early doors, then stick 45,000 people in the box for the rest of the game. I'm bricking it, but fucking excited at the same time.

Hannover 96 4-0 Standard Liege.  What a fantastic result, can't even imagine how awesome that must have been.  Time to start booking tickets to Bucharest!

Also great to see both Manchester teams crash out.  Especially Man U getting schooled by Athletic Bilbao.  Athletic is seriously good, man.  How the hell do they do it?  They only use Basque players!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on March 15, 2012, 11:10:35 PM
Hannover 96 4-0 Standard Liege.
This was no surprise to me at all. Standard has been mediocre in the Belgian league this year, in fact it amazes me they made it this far at all.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on March 19, 2012, 05:25:37 PM
Two days until the biggest game in football history. As Graham Taylor would say, "Farkin' 'ell!". 2-2 after the first leg, so we need a goal early doors, then stick 45,000 people in the box for the rest of the game. I'm bricking it, but fucking excited at the same time.

Hannover 96 4-0 Standard Liege.  What a fantastic result, can't even imagine how awesome that must have been.  Time to start booking tickets to Bucharest!

Also great to see both Manchester teams crash out.  Especially Man U getting schooled by Athletic Bilbao.  Athletic is seriously good, man.  How the hell do they do it?  They only use Basque players!

Thanks for looking out for the result! It was a fantastic game. So glad to be there with all my mates, two of whom went to that first game with me against Bochum nearly 20 years ago. You can probably imagine, we had a fucking party after the final whistle - the Landlord in my old local probably quadrupled his profits for the month in that single night! Amazing experience, reached the quarter finals with our shitty little team. Brilliant feeling. We have Athletico Madrid next, I envisage a heavy defeat. At this stage, though, who knows?

I'll never forget that evening. Fucking love football :)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on March 19, 2012, 10:45:06 PM

Thanks for looking out for the result! It was a fantastic game. So glad to be there with all my mates, two of whom went to that first game with me against Bochum nearly 20 years ago. You can probably imagine, we had a fucking party after the final whistle - the Landlord in my old local probably quadrupled his profits for the month in that single night! Amazing experience, reached the quarter finals with our shitty little team. Brilliant feeling. We have Athletico Madrid next, I envisage a heavy defeat. At this stage, though, who knows?

I'll never forget that evening. Fucking love football :)
Sounds like a once-in-a-lifetime type experience! Happy for you just reading your post!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on March 29, 2012, 11:23:26 AM
I am so tired of fantasy baseball already.  I have done 4 drafts in two weeks.  And I have another big, in-person, eight hour auction on Saturday and an online draft on Monday.

I only play in one league and we drafted two weeks ago.  But then at the draft, the commissioner was like "Hey we're in a bind in the other league because this one guy can't come..." So I was like okay, fine I'll help you out because it's not easier to be league commissioner so I owed him one. 

Then I went to THAT draft and one of my friends in the league was like "Hey, I'm in this other league and I can't make it..." So I was like okay fine, because I know it would suck to be in a league and not be able to go to your auction...

So then I went to THAT draft...

There are some people who owe me big-time for drafting really awful fantasy teams for them.

At least give me some kind of draft list or instructions so I don't have to think too hard.  This one guy has the first pick in the draft.  "Who do you want?"  "I don't know, will try to text you @ draft"  Seriously?   Dude, it's not that hard.  Pujols, Kemp, Cabrera, Braun, Tulowitzki.  Pick your favorite.  It doesn't even matter which, because they are all pretty even this year.  If I don't get a text from you, your #1 overall pick is going to be Juan Uribe.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: jcarwash31 on March 29, 2012, 04:20:34 PM
At least by now you should have a good idea of who you like and where they should be going.  ;D

One 5 to 6 hour auction draft plus offline reserve draft a year is enough for me.  You might have to limit yourself to 1 or 2 doing you a favor drafts per year.  That sounds kind of brutal.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on March 30, 2012, 01:22:57 PM
If I had my way, I think I would do my NL-only brutal 5 hour auction and then maybe an online random AL+NL more casual league.  That's what I used to do when we had a WOXY league.

Otherwise, it gets a little weird when like you can name the entire 40 man roster of every NL team plus their top 5 prospects.  But on the other hand you can't name more than maybe 1/3 the starting lineup of most AL teams.  It's still kind of fun to own some AL players and also have some GOOD players.  It gets a little tiring rooting for your fantasy fifth OF and real-life 4th OF to start a game and go 1-4 with a run.

I got out of the brutal Saturday auction today.  It was nice because that was the one I had felt most obligated to do but which I least wanted to.  I knew excatly why the guy wasn't going to be able to make it to that draft, and then today I heard some news which led me to believe he would make it after all, and sure enough he called me and let me know.  Yay!

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on April 04, 2012, 04:43:24 PM
FUN!!!

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/high-and-tight-our-rock-roll-baseball-experts-celebrate-opening-day-20120404
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on April 04, 2012, 06:44:19 PM
That reminds me of Seth Swirsky, who is in The Red Button that MK just posted about.  He's actually written three books about baseball, and they're all really good.  They're all published responses to questions/fan letters he has written to people about baseball.  Lots are from baseball legends, but some are from not-so-famous players and some are from famous non-baseball people talking about baseball.  They're pretty neat.  Swirsky is a huge baseball fan so he asks some pretty interesting questions.  Some of the best ones are where his interests intersect.  Like he asks Paul McCartney about the Yankees, or a Mets player about the Beatles playing at Shea stadium.

Another random Seth Swirsky fact:  He wrote Taylor Dane's "Tell it to my Heart"
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Nate on April 05, 2012, 12:04:29 AM
Does anyone still believe Dulli drops acid every opening day still?  That dude's almost a health-freak now.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on April 05, 2012, 11:55:49 AM
I don't mind these little one-off preview openers too much.  I can even get down with Monday no longer being REAL opening day.  I don't like it, but I can live with it.

But the first game on REAL opening day should always be Reds at home.  ALWAYS.  I don't get it.  Is this really so hard?   It's not like there's some kind of huge scheduling conflict or revenue impact.  The Reds game is at 4:05.  Move it three hours earlier.  Simple.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on April 09, 2012, 04:31:19 PM
Gillingham look like they've probably spunked it for the season. Probably looking at another year in the bottom tier, fools! At least some things in life you can set your watch by :)

Hannover got beaten in the Europa League last 8, this past thursday. Unbelievably pleased as a fan that we even got that far. Memorable season, this one.

Alan Pardew is a twat.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on April 11, 2012, 04:17:51 PM
I really wish baseball teams would stop mobbing the batter after he hits a walk-off unless it is a game that actually matters.  Mob him in the World Series, if they just clinched the playoffs or wrapped up a 20 inning game.  The Reds have already done this in twice during the first six games and it's only April.  April.  What is on the line so much that a sudden win deserves Rolen or Heisey having the team dry hump them this early in a season? 

Wow, we barely took one of three from the Cards.  Let's just go nuts.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: frizgolf on April 11, 2012, 08:39:02 PM
I really wish baseball teams would stop mobbing the batter after he hits a walk-off unless it is a game that actually matters.  Mob him in the World Series, if they just clinched the playoffs or wrapped up a 20 inning game.  The Reds have already done this in twice during the first six games and it's only April.  April.  What is on the line so much that a sudden win deserves Rolen or Heisey having the team dry hump them this early in a season? 

Wow, we barely took one of three from the Cards.  Let's just go nuts.
Reminds me of the war dance an offensive football player will make when he gets an insignificant 1st down early in the first quarter.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: cyclone on April 11, 2012, 09:39:14 PM
I really wish baseball teams would stop mobbing the batter after he hits a walk-off unless it is a game that actually matters.  Mob him in the World Series, if they just clinched the playoffs or wrapped up a 20 inning game.  The Reds have already done this in twice during the first six games and it's only April.  April.  What is on the line so much that a sudden win deserves Rolen or Heisey having the team dry hump them this early in a season? 

Or at the very least, save the celebrations for walk-off HRs only.  Not walk-off singles. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on April 11, 2012, 11:16:04 PM
I really wish baseball teams would stop mobbing the batter after he hits a walk-off unless it is a game that actually matters. What is on the line so much that a sudden win deserves Rolen or Heisey having the team dry hump them this early in a season? 

Sorry but... dry humping is what is the norm today. And it doesn't need to be a "meaningful" game. Although today's game was in fact, even it is only April. Getting swept by the Cards vs. pulling one out after being down 3-0 in the 3rd game is a HUGE difference.

The Reds have been mediocre, at best, so far. Being 3-3 is actually pretty darn good.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on April 12, 2012, 08:31:38 AM
Sorry but... dry humping is what is the norm today. And it doesn't need to be a "meaningful" game. Although today's game was in fact, even it is only April. Getting swept by the Cards vs. pulling one out after being down 3-0 in the 3rd game is a HUGE difference.

How is it huge or meaningful?  Say they get swept, then what?  They drop to 2-4 tied with the Pirates.  Is this team's psyche is that fragile that a sweep or avoiding a sweep during the second series of the season is so important that it warrants a mob celebration?  April does not matter a whole lot.  Remember last year when the Reds won their first 5 or 6?  Or the 1995 team when they made the playoffs after a dismal start? 

The problem is that the walk-off celebration is the norm and, therefore, meaningless.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on April 12, 2012, 10:42:31 AM
It wasn't even like it was some crazy comeback.  Sure, the Reds were down 3 runs.... for a brief five minutes in the THIRD inning. The game had been tied since the sixth inning.  If there's an MVP in that game it would definitely be Aroldis Chapman.

BTW, this is going to be one of those games where Dusty Baker pats himself on the back for his ability to play matchups with Heisey.  In his mind, he is totally thinking "I put Heisey in a position where he would do well and that is why we won."  He will not be thinking "Gee, Ryan Ludwick is batting .091.  Maybe even if Heisey isn't good against lefties, he still wouldn't have done any worse than the 0-3 I just got from Ludwick."
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on April 25, 2012, 01:20:53 PM
If I had a team, any player who ever played for me could do the "One Day Contract and Retire As" thing.  I mean, unless they were rapists or something.  It just seems like a nice thing to do and it doesn't really cost you anything.

The only rule would be that your retirement ceremony is commensurate with your team contribution.  So if Emmit Smith wants to sign a one day contract with the Cowboys then he will get a half-time induction and mega press conferences and press-releases and his number retired.

Marc Columbo though, should get the same kind of retirement I'm gonna get as a distinctly average employee.  He walks in, and maybe his old offensive line coach and a couple trainers take him out to lunch at a Chinese restaurant.  Afterwards, there's a semi-impromptu afternoon meeting in the film room with the team and a Costco cake with some two liter bottles of soda.  Everyone gets a slice of cake and a drink and then Jason Garrett pulls out the card everyone signed for him along with a $75 gift card to Lowe's.  People hang out for 15 minutes and shoot the shit with each other and then drift away.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Homsar on April 25, 2012, 01:33:52 PM
Oh man.  You make me want to be a better than average employee.

Although I do like Chinese...
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on May 06, 2012, 06:07:43 PM
I did not cash in a single freaking bet on the Derby yesterday.  Think I lost about $80.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on May 11, 2012, 08:12:03 AM
I am still trying to figure who picked this photo and WHY they picked this photo to go with this story. I thought some of you might also find it hilarious. HAHAHAAHA.

http://blogs.ajc.com/peachtree-road-race-tips/2012/05/10/stand-up-for-better-running/
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on May 11, 2012, 10:04:38 AM
Is that Fabio Capello and Stuart Pearce?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on May 11, 2012, 10:16:22 AM
Is that Fabio Capello and Stuart Pearce?
Yep. WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!?!?!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on May 14, 2012, 08:22:34 AM
That Man City/QPR match was so much fun to watch. Dramatic ending to an exciting match and HOPEFULLY the end of Joey Barton's career. I love nothing more than yelling at the twat when he's on the television. Throw the football book at him.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poolio on May 14, 2012, 09:54:45 AM
That Man City/QPR match was so much fun to watch. Dramatic ending to an exciting match and HOPEFULLY the end of Joey Barton's career. I love nothing more than yelling at the twat when he's on the television. Throw the football book at him.
Indeed. Almost as fun to watch was the Man U players faces when they found out that Man City won.

I can't imagine Barton will be playing for awhile. The elbow he threw was bad enough but when he kicked the unsuspecting Man City player he should've been dragged off the pitch by his ear.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on May 14, 2012, 10:22:02 AM
That Man City/QPR match was so much fun to watch. Dramatic ending to an exciting match and HOPEFULLY the end of Joey Barton's career. I love nothing more than yelling at the twat when he's on the television. Throw the football book at him.
Open Letter to Joey Barton (http://mrjimmycorkhill.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/open-letter-to-joey-barton.html?m=1)
"you play for a team that just survived relegation by an antís penis" is my favourite line
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poolio on May 14, 2012, 10:42:43 AM
That Man City/QPR match was so much fun to watch. Dramatic ending to an exciting match and HOPEFULLY the end of Joey Barton's career. I love nothing more than yelling at the twat when he's on the television. Throw the football book at him.
Open Letter to Joey Barton (http://mrjimmycorkhill.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/open-letter-to-joey-barton.html?m=1)
"you play for a team that just survived relegation by an antís penis" is my favourite line

Mine is "Thereís no I in team is there? But thereís a fucking I in prick!"
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on May 14, 2012, 03:28:25 PM
That Man City/QPR match was so much fun to watch. Dramatic ending to an exciting match and HOPEFULLY the end of Joey Barton's career. I love nothing more than yelling at the twat when he's on the television. Throw the football book at him.

Yes. He's from that same school of footballers which also bred the likes of Lee Bowyer, Ben Thatcher, Justin Edinburgh, John Terry, etc. Uncool on every level, one and all
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on May 14, 2012, 05:10:46 PM
Too bad he's such a knob.  One of the few soccer players with good taste in music.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on May 15, 2012, 03:33:47 PM
Help me think up a fun, silly, creative, goofy team name for my company's fitness competition. Cute names I've seen so far and want to compete with are:
- Southern Sisters with Blisters
- Lose-iana Bayou Belly Burners
- Mission Slimpossible

I like the idea of a name with food in it or with some 80s/90s movie/TV reference. Something to make people chuckle. You people entertain me all of the time. I know you'll think of 50 names more entertaining than my "Running from the Biscuits" brainstorm. Plus, it's boring around here today.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on May 15, 2012, 10:50:30 PM
Mission Slimpossible is pretty awesome in my book...
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on May 16, 2012, 05:51:11 AM
"Show us your Fits"
"Get your Fits out"

I have nothing but schoolboy-humour suggestions really...
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on May 16, 2012, 08:21:30 AM
HAHAHAHA, CR.

I had the same problem. Seriously. "5 Jocks and a Strap", "Bowling Ball Busters", and stuff like that.

MISSION SLIMPOSSIBLE is pretty good. That's why I have to beat it!!!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: jcarwash31 on May 16, 2012, 10:33:20 AM
Run OMG

That's all I got. I'll try to think of some more.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: MissKitty on May 16, 2012, 01:25:37 PM
Fit Club. Rule #1: do not talk about Fit Club. Rule #2: you DO NOT talk about Fit Club.

Probably not the best marketing strategy for you team though.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: MissKitty on May 16, 2012, 01:29:40 PM
How about "Desperately Seeking Losin'"?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on May 16, 2012, 02:14:43 PM
2 Fat 2 Furious
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 16, 2012, 03:44:28 PM
The Baconators
Poltrygeist
The Healthy Breakfast Club
37 Pushups (In a Row)

You could be a real dick and name your team Mission Slimpossible: Ghost Protocol
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on May 16, 2012, 03:50:46 PM
"Slim-Fast Shakes on a Plane" ?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: lutz on May 16, 2012, 03:54:57 PM
2 Fat 2 Furious
Winner!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: luisterpaul on May 22, 2012, 06:08:39 PM
"Slim-Fast Shakes on a Plane" ?
*snort*
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on May 29, 2012, 04:15:48 PM
Random pre-Euro 2012 musings:

I hope John Terry receives an injury pre-tournament, excluding him from competing in the Championship itself.

I just submitted a "Fantasy XI" at work today, and there isn't one Englishmen in my team. Sad.

I hope that Hodgson has the bottle to actually give young Oxtail Chamberpot at least half an hour each game in the first round matches. it says it all when I'm hoping a young man with 4 premiership starts gets playing time. It's absolutely not Hodgson's fault, but I think this England squad is the least talented I've ever seen assembled. Even worse than Graham Taylor era squads featuring Carlton Palmer, Dennis Wise and Andy Sinton. Well, almost as bad, then.

Watch out for Eriksen, Strootman and Gotze for Denmark, Holland and Germany respectively - I think those three lads are absolutely dynamite.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: lutz on May 29, 2012, 07:15:34 PM
Posted by a fake Wayne Rooney account on Twitter:

Quote
Oxlade-Chamberlain and Walcott's families aren't going to the Euro's because of racism. Can't John Terry just stay in another hotel?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on June 03, 2012, 04:42:06 PM
Random pre-Euro 2012 musings:

I hope John Terry receives an injury pre-tournament, excluding him from competing in the Championship itself.



Nearly. Damn his luck.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on June 06, 2012, 12:47:16 PM
I picked up Brett Anderson from the waiver wire in my fantasy league just so I could have Brett Anderson, Jason Hammel, and Corey Hart all on my team.

I thought that was pretty funny.  Then I realized I had done the same thing last year.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on June 06, 2012, 01:42:44 PM
At half-time in the Capital One Cup Finals, will the winning manager tell his side "You've got one hand on the COC?"
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on June 06, 2012, 02:37:45 PM
At half-time in the Capital One Cup Finals, the winning manager tells his side "You've got one hand on the COC. Don't blow it."
Corrected  ;)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on June 09, 2012, 04:43:29 PM
It's weird.  For some reason, I think Nani is awesome.  Every time he has the ball I'm like "Oh, nooo..  NanI!  aaaaaaaggghh!"  In contrast, every time Ronaldo has the ball I'm all "meh.  He'll do ten stepovers and give it away."

But the reality is Ronaldo is a pretty awesome player.  And Nani really kind of sucks.  If anyone always looks cool but utter fails to deliver and plays with no heart, its Nani.   
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: lutz on June 09, 2012, 06:44:00 PM
It's weird.  For some reason, I think Nani is awesome.  Every time he has the ball I'm like "Oh, nooo..  NanI!  aaaaaaaggghh!"  In contrast, every time Ronaldo has the ball I'm all "meh.  He'll do ten stepovers and give it away."

But the reality is Ronaldo is a pretty awesome player.  And Nani really kind of sucks.  If anyone always looks cool but utter fails to deliver and plays with no heart, its Nani.   
You've got to be kidding - he's been amazing for Man Utd and has created loads of goals/chances on goal this season alone.
Ronaldo is undeniably excellent, but he suffers the same problem as Messi in that his national team isn't as good as his club team.
Portugal were unlucky not to get a 1-1 draw today.

Random other sport musing: the French Open has been absolutely fantastic this year, and we haven't even seen the epic showdown between Nadal and Djokovic yet! I don't think Wimbledon will be able to top it.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on June 09, 2012, 08:11:39 PM
I felt like maybe six years ago when Henin-Hardin, Clijsters, and the Williams sisters were all playing  the women's game was highly competitive and the best women were pushing the sport to new levels.  Now they are all terrible.  The fact that Sharapova is back on top just kind of shows the regression.  So I know a lot of people like the women's game right now because the tournaments are so wide open, but to me it's just kind of a bunch of mediocre players with a random winner.

Still, I like Sharapova and was happy to see her win.  She has nice strokes, and a fun to watch throwback classic game (except for her.  At her height, her serve should be a huge weapon, but instead it is terrible.   So while I think she is vastly inferior to a healthy and motivated Serena (which we will probably never see again), I can at least appreciate that she is (aside from the serve) the most skilled player in the game, and gets the most out of what she has.  I can also appreciate the fact that she is rather hot.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on June 09, 2012, 11:08:02 PM
Watched the 2 Euro 2012 games today. Glad to see the Danes beat the unsufferable Dutch (remember I am from Belgium). Germany eeked out a victory against Portugal, but it could've gone either way. But the level of play on both games left to be desired, to be honest.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on June 10, 2012, 01:22:13 AM
Now I remember why I never watch boxing.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: lutz on June 10, 2012, 06:05:36 AM
Watched the 2 Euro 2012 games today. Glad to see the Danes beat the unsufferable Dutch (remember I am from Belgium).
I got Holland in our research group sweepstake so I was going absolutely spare during that match. So many squandered opportunities.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: frizgolf on June 10, 2012, 10:36:10 AM
Now I remember why I never watch boxing.
Don King ruined prizefighting. It became all about the biggest purse rather than the established hierarchy of who deserved the chance to challenge the champ. We started seeing rematch after rematch instead of seeing up-and-coming promising fighters.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on June 10, 2012, 04:00:47 PM
That was offside, man.  The Croatian shot the ball.  There were two players in offside position and both players gained an advantage.  The whistle should have blown right there. 

I would hardly call a failed clearance a "new phase of play."  Sure if the shot is stuffed and then Ward or whoever starts to dribble around with it for a bit it's like a reset.  But Ward tried to clear quickly, and part of the reason he had to clear was because there were players in the area in dangerous positions.  Dangerous positions they got into because they were offside.

And the fact that that position was dangerous was established when in fact one of the players-- still in an offside position but technically not because it came off Ward's foot, was able to stroll in and pick up the ricochet off the scuffed clearance and score easily.

If that dude is not way offside on the first shot, then Ward may not have to rush his clearance, and he is not in a position to easily score when the clearance doesn't go so well.  So I don't care.  That's a blown call.  The fact that the flag should have been up on the initial shot rather than the follow through doesn't matter.  The guy was offside and scored because he was offside.  One way or the other, that shouldn't have been a goal.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on June 10, 2012, 06:24:23 PM
It was totally offside.

Big game against the formidable frogs tomorrow. I vowed to not give a shit about the national side after the last few years under McClaren and Capello, yet the old nerves and excitement have crept up on me. I chatted to my old man and a mate today, and am convinced we should play Cole as a left-sided midfielder, considering how shite and an utter waste of oxygen Downing is. Cole has all the qualities to fit in further up on the left. He might be a twat, but he's the only world class player in the side other than Rooney. Baines, Jags and Lescott used to play together at Everton, so surely would be a great choice to start as three of the back four against France. that would mean dropping Terry to the bench (or, preferably, Dropping Terry head-first onto the bench several times in a row). Anyway, the team i'd pick but you wont be seeing tomorrow are:

Hart

Johnson
Jagielka
Lescott
Baines

Oxfam Chambermaid
Parker
Gerrard
Cole

Young
Wellbeck


Can't see us getting out of the group, but good luck to Hodgson and his squad nonetheless.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on June 10, 2012, 07:08:52 PM
I could go for that but I'd swap Welbeck for Carroll.

Yes I know Carroll's utter pants for 'Pool but I have a feeling he could find a bit of form if selected to start for Roy.

I'm all for colding out Terry. The Cunt.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: lutz on June 11, 2012, 06:41:12 AM
Anyway, the team i'd pick but you wont be seeing tomorrow are:

Hart

Johnson
Jagielka
Lescott
Baines

Oxfam Chambermaid
Parker
Gerrard
Cole

Young
Wellbeck
That line-up looks much too sensible, and therefore doesn't have a chance in hell of being selected.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on June 11, 2012, 01:57:06 PM
Thought that was pretty good for England, all things considered.  Tie game against a team that is much better than the US.

They sat back for the most part and took few chances, but that's what you do when you face a more talented team.  At England finally recognize they stink.

Welbeck looked good.  AOC looked REALLY good.  Hart looked decent enough.  Wouldn't exactly call it a golden generation, but at least its a breath of fresh air.  They appeared to be genuinely interested in winning the match, that's refreshing.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: lutz on June 11, 2012, 03:33:54 PM
They're still spending far too much time aimlessly passing the ball from side-to-side rather than attacking and creating some forward momentum.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on June 11, 2012, 05:34:02 PM
Thought that was pretty good for England, all things considered.  Tie game against a team that is much better than the US.

They sat back for the most part and took few chances, but that's what you do when you face a more talented team.  At England finally recognize they stink.

Welbeck looked good.  AOC looked REALLY good.  Hart looked decent enough.  Wouldn't exactly call it a golden generation, but at least its a breath of fresh air.  They appeared to be genuinely interested in winning the match, that's refreshing.

I agree, it was alright. Defoe looked sharp when he came on, and Parker (I never thought I'd say it), Welbeck, Gerrard and Oxbow Cricklewood did very well. i have to say though, I thought Hart was very suspect.

Drop Milner, he was shite.

Enjoyed it in all, well done Hodgson for being brave in his selections and subsequent substitutions.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on June 13, 2012, 06:11:13 PM
Ze Germanz are looking pretty good this tournament. Didn't see the Spanish yet, but from what I've watched, They look to be cruising.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on June 13, 2012, 06:24:09 PM
Terry. The Cunt.

Absolutely.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on June 13, 2012, 07:39:17 PM
I've somewhat enjoyed the Euros so far.  It's been one for the would-be managers rather than fans of entertaining football, but I suppose that's okay.

There hasn't been a team that has won me over emotionally in terms of wanting to root for them because of particularly stylish play or bold tactics.  But teams like Germany and Spain have done what they needed to do thus far, so can't really complain.
England perhaps a prime example.  Really boring tactics and really boring game.  The most boring flat 4-4-2 formation played in the most boring way.  You could take an overhead shot of the pitch at any point in the game and England would look like a foosball table.  Everyone perfectly aligned in nice 4-4-2 lines.  No overlapping runs, very little creativity.  Anyone who disturbed the shape would immediately run back to the exact place they should be.  But I thought it was cool, because-- at the risk of offending anyone-- England is a crap side, and that is how crap sides play.  I appreciate the discipline and awareness to keep their shape so well, and players swallowing their pride and realizing they are technically outclassed.  From a tactical perspective that is much better than thinking you have World Class players and playing that way only to give up very basic goals because someone wasn't where they should be because they thought they could go 1 v 4.

I say this with the full realization that the US is also a crap side whose greatest success has been playing boring football, taking advantage of fitness, and winning games via a lucky counter.  I'd like us to play more aggressive football and try to go all the way instead of just getting through the group stages, but that takes time.  Eventually Oxo Cube and others might be world class playmakers but for now it's enough of an accomplishment just to get rid of some of the utter crap that's been on the team for years and get some new players in and not embarrass yourselves.  Build a little momentum for 2014.  And even in this tournament, maybe when Rooney comes back he might actually be fired up to play for once and if he so he is capable of magic.

Hopefully when they get out of the group stages, the increased competition and less teams sitting back will bring out the best in the remaining teams.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on June 14, 2012, 07:10:35 PM
Nice post. I feel we should put the younger players in to blood them, fuck the results this time around. I think Roy Hodgson will do the best with what he has, which is 2 world class players, a handful of shit, and a further handful of promising youngsters. win, lose or draw, i'm actually looking forward to seeing England play tomorrow. Haven't really said that truthfully in a lot of years.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on June 14, 2012, 11:36:22 PM
What really grates me is that the Dutch, having lost 2 games, still have a good shot at advancing. Assuming the Germans beat the Danes, the Dutch will advance if they beat Portugal by 2 goals. I just want the Dutch gone, sorry. I hope that Germany will lay off and play for a draw with Denmark.

That aside, I'm disappointed that there is no replay in the evening of "the game of the day", given that the games are at noon and 2:45 pm, meaning when I'm at work. So the only time I can watch a game live is on the weekend.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on June 15, 2012, 02:43:03 AM
Yeah but beating Portugal by two goals is not that easy.  Sneaking a draw or even a one goal win against a Portugal side that seems to always underachieve given their star power is possible.  But two goals is a tall order.  Plus the Dutch look like ass.  And if the stereotype of Portugal is they are all fancy skills and little results, the stereotype of Holland is they bicker like mad and totally lose their cool when the chips are down.

The rumor is that Chelsea will be loaning Kevin de Bruyne to Southampton next year.  And Southampton already has Steve de Ridder.  So that would be two Belgians on the Saints.  They play the same position though, so they probably won't play together much if at all.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: jcarwash31 on June 15, 2012, 12:58:49 PM
I don't know what made things click for Trevor Plouffe, but the dude is just mashing.  He's hit 7 HRs in 11 games in June and 11 HRs in his last 21 games.  He has a 3 game HR hitting streak.  He's batting .386 in June after ending May with a .163 average and has raised it to .232 for the year.  It's ridiculous.  The only reason he wasn't in triple-A was because he's out of options.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on June 15, 2012, 01:10:53 PM
... and I saw him in the FA pool three weeks ago and decided not to pick him up.  So yeah, eff Trevor Plouffe.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: jcarwash31 on June 18, 2012, 12:29:47 PM
Plouffe hit 2 more on Friday night.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: lutz on June 18, 2012, 02:51:07 PM
Yeah but beating Portugal by two goals is not that easy.  Sneaking a draw or even a one goal win against a Portugal side that seems to always underachieve given their star power is possible.  But two goals is a tall order.  Plus the Dutch look like ass.  And if the stereotype of Portugal is they are all fancy skills and little results, the stereotype of Holland is they bicker like mad and totally lose their cool when the chips are down.
Man, you were so right. I thought I had such a good chance of getting my money back in the sweepstake, and instead they go out without a point. FML.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on June 18, 2012, 11:04:58 PM
I'm just glad the Dutch are gone. And left the tourney being flat-out embarrassed. Not a single point!

And can you believe the Russians are out? Wow, just wow.

At this point it looks to me like the Germans are the team to beat, but of course anything can happen in a single match.

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on June 19, 2012, 07:34:59 PM
It's never easy being born English. for one thing, you're English. Secondly, watching them play footy at an International tournament is a life-sapping, traumatic experience.  We were shocking in the first 20 minutes today, but I am fucking overjoyed that our limited squad has made it through to face the cunting Italians in the quarters. Brilliant. Hodgson is a straight arrow, so pleased he got the nod as Manager.

I don't know if anyone saw the game, but that second half seemed to last about 18,000 hours. i had four heart attacks, adopted a child, finished my novel, became a Grandfather, had bridgework and  both planted and harvested an asparagus plant in that time.

Roll on Sunday. Fucking Italy. Cant wait.







Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on June 19, 2012, 10:58:33 PM
If you think it's not easy being born English, imagine being born Belgian ;) At least your team is in it.

Glad to see the English advance. Hope they beat the Italians.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on June 20, 2012, 01:26:35 AM
Don't the Belgians have a "golden generation" thing going on?  Boyata, Witsel, Kompany, Hazard, Lukaku, Fellaini, etc. etc.?  Seems like that team should be peaking just in time for World Cup 2014.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: lutz on June 20, 2012, 06:55:42 AM
It's never easy being born English. for one thing, you're English. Secondly, watching them play footy at an International tournament is a life-sapping, traumatic experience.
This is a completely accurate description. The only way English people can watch their team play is either drunk or peeking through their fingers.

I am so glad Ibrahimovich saved his glorious smackdown for the French!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on June 20, 2012, 07:47:18 AM
Don't the Belgians have a "golden generation" thing going on?  Boyata, Witsel, Kompany, Hazard, Lukaku, Fellaini, etc. etc.?  Seems like that team should be peaking just in time for World Cup 2014.

Don't forget De Ridder! He plays in the EPL now.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on June 20, 2012, 08:31:20 AM

I don't know if anyone saw the game, but that second half seemed to last about 18,000 hours. i had four heart attacks, adopted a child, finished my novel, became a Grandfather, had bridgework and  both planted and harvested an asparagus plant in that time.
And still you never have time to write or call. Hmmmm. :)

Congrats, Mate.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on June 20, 2012, 11:14:12 AM

I don't know if anyone saw the game, but that second half seemed to last about 18,000 hours. i had four heart attacks, adopted a child, finished my novel, became a Grandfather, had bridgework and  both planted and harvested an asparagus plant in that time.
And still you never have time to write or call. Hmmmm. :)

Congrats, Mate.

If the next game goes to extra time, expect a letter!  ;D

I guess the weekend fixtures should give you lot a better chance to watch a game or two, now. On paper, there are some cracking match-up's in the coming few days.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on June 20, 2012, 11:19:31 AM
Don't the Belgians have a "golden generation" thing going on?  Boyata, Witsel, Kompany, Hazard, Lukaku, Fellaini, etc. etc.?  Seems like that team should be peaking just in time for World Cup 2014.

You're spot on. I actually have already placed a bet on them to win Brazil 2014 outright, before any of the qualifiers have been played. I got spanking odds of 80-1, so I didn't see any harm at all in taking a punt on them and putting an Ayrton down. Hope I don't lose the betting slip in the coming two years!

they've got good players in every position, and the average age of their better group of players is enviably young. Should be good for a fair few years if they work out how to get the best out of each other.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on June 20, 2012, 11:48:37 AM
Don't the Belgians have a "golden generation" thing going on?  Boyata, Witsel, Kompany, Hazard, Lukaku, Fellaini, etc. etc.?  Seems like that team should be peaking just in time for World Cup 2014.
That's what's being said for SEVERAL years now. Yet they are still only ranked no. 55 on the FIFA list or thereabouts.

They have yet again just hired a new national team manager. He's pretty straightforward about it. "These guys (meaning the players) may say all they want, fact is, they've not proven anything yet, so there is nothing golden about them". And right he is. Until they qualify for something, just shut up and play.

If they do not qualify for Brazil 14, it will be a HUGE letdown. We may not get another chance like this for years to come.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on June 20, 2012, 02:57:06 PM
The exact perfect stat line for a hitter on your fantasy bench is 1-3, 1BB, 1 2B, 0 SB, 0 R, 0 RBI

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on June 20, 2012, 03:14:02 PM
Don't forget De Ridder! He plays in the EPL now.
Steeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeve!!!!!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: jcarwash31 on June 20, 2012, 05:18:10 PM
The exact perfect stat line for a hitter on your fantasy bench is 1-3, 1BB, 1 2B, 0 SB, 0 R, 0 RBI


Is it?  That's a nice OPS you're not getting.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on June 20, 2012, 05:32:06 PM
We use traditional categories in both of my leagues, so OPS doesn't matter. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: lutz on June 28, 2012, 05:08:44 PM
Germany get knocked out of the Euros by Italy. Nadal gets knocked out of the second round of Wimbledon by a non-seed ranked 100 in the world. The sporting world has gone insane!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: trixi on June 28, 2012, 07:03:19 PM
ACK!  Spoiler posted above.  Guess I don't have to watch that match now. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: lutz on June 29, 2012, 03:06:16 AM
Ahh, sorry! I would definitely avoid any sports/news threads/Facebook if I didn't want to know any results, though.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Homsar on June 29, 2012, 01:28:02 PM
You expected less from someone speaking to us from the future?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: trixi on June 29, 2012, 11:11:19 PM
You expected less from someone speaking to us from the future?
LOL

No big deal lutz, I still watched the match.  I never watch the news or look online.  And tennis doesn't tend to be a big topic around here, so I wasn't even thinking about it :-) 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: lutz on June 30, 2012, 04:55:52 AM
I'm still sorry - I forget that the matches are probably broadcast after you folks get home from work. Looking forward to the final now, though, should be a cracker :)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on July 07, 2012, 01:03:21 PM
I used to go to the gym on Saturday mornings, but I got really bad about that during the last year because of watching Southampton play.  And then just kind of rolled into being lazy in general and I've gotten kind of badly out of shape.  I probably need to lose fifteen pounds.  I've probably only been to the gym maybe ten times since January.

So starting this week, I've been going again.  Today was my first Saturday morning workout and the third time this week I have gone so I'm feeling it.

When I get to the gym, I get on one of those incline/cross ramp/elliptical doodads.  I'm using one of the ones on the second floor, which is empty except for me.  About five minutes in, for some weird reason they start playing "Maniac."  Which is hilarious because my legs are pumping like Jennifer Beals.  And then the keyboards are doing that "doo--doo....doo-doo...doo-doo" thing where it's almost impossible not to keep time.  So I'm laughing it up and working the shoulders doing like my best slow-motion 80's "leaving it all on the line music montage" faces.  This was jolly fun.

Except that "doo-doo" keyboard thing is actually a lot faster than you think so after that song ended I was way winded.  I think I was up around 14 cal per minute during that stretch.  So the rest of the workout is going to be hard and I'm just going to kind of take it slow.  But then I look at the settings on the machine.  I had punched in some kind of random thing, but maybe I did it wrong because it gave me like this ridiculous workout where it was just like one steep uphill that went from like 5 to 7 to 12 to like 17 at the end or something.

So I'm like dying.  And then someone flips the TV to the Tour de France.  This is apparently the first big hill climb and riders are dropping like flies.  They are showing like the last part of the uphill bit and it's one of those grim scenes where they are trying not to show all the riders that have pooped in their pants and whatnot.  They're in agony.  And then one dude just kind of wheels off the course and collapses.  This is not really helping me as I make my own brutal (fake) uphill climb.

So then, like fifteen minutes in this gaggle of hot chicks comes up out of nowhere up and takes the machines next to me.  So now I gotta do the whole "this is no big deal, just getting in a little workout that is not stressing me out AT ALL, because I'm in awesome shape and I am totally not looking at your rack because I get hot chicks all the time seeing as how I'm in awesome shape and all" thing.  Except I'm watching people poop their pants on TV while thinking that pooping my own pants is really starting to seem like not such a bad idea right now.

Then the fan breaks.

I'm not saying I'm the world's fittest dude because I'm not.  But I've done some cool fitness-y things in my day.  I ran a half marathon.  I've climbed Pike's Peak.  I did the Half Dome at Yosemite without camping overnight so that was like an eight mile hike straight up the mountain and then back againg.  I've done the Blue Angel trail at Grand Canyon in 100 degree heat in summer which I think is another 15 miler.  I've hiked Death Valley.

I would say that the last ten minutes of that workout I felt worse than any of those things, because when I did those things I was young and/or in shape.  Also when I did those things there was some kind of goal and I was mentally prepared.  I wasn't exhausted because I decided to randomly dork out to "Maniac" on a random Saturday.  It was about as bad as I have every felt due to physical strain in my life.

Then I had to walk a 1/2 mile back to my house in 100 degree heat.

See, that's going to go down in the books as just a mundane 425 calorie, 35 minute workout.  But anyone who has ever played the workout game knows I left everything I had on that elliptical.  That's why we play the games and watch them.  For that one transcendent moment of time where this grizzled 40 year old vet dialed back the hands of time and reminded everyone...if only for 20 minutes.. why he is a hall-of-famer.  I'm just glad I was there to experience it and tell you all about it.  Remember where you were when you read this post.  Someday you can tell your kids about it.

Also, I ended up not pooping my pants so like.. Bonus!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on July 07, 2012, 05:06:20 PM
Priceless. Just priceless.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poolio on July 07, 2012, 10:34:42 PM
So then, like fifteen minutes in this gaggle of hot chicks comes up out of nowhere up and takes the machines next to me.  So now I gotta do the whole "this is no big deal, just getting in a little workout that is not stressing me out AT ALL, because I'm in awesome shape and I am totally not looking at your rack because I get hot chicks all the time seeing as how I'm in awesome shape and all" thing.  Except I'm watching people poop their pants on TV while thinking that pooping my own pants is really starting to seem like not such a bad idea right now.

HAHAHAHAHA!!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on July 07, 2012, 10:59:19 PM
May be one of my favorite ZK posts ever
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: lutz on July 09, 2012, 03:02:37 PM
Amazing, ZK  ;D
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: lutz on July 10, 2012, 12:54:53 PM
The Olympic torch is going to pass right by my domicile in about 20 minutes. I can see all the people lined up along the road from the window, and at the moment they're all getting drenched, poor bastards.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on July 10, 2012, 01:14:06 PM
May be one of my favorite ZK posts ever
x Forever.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: lutz on July 10, 2012, 02:46:28 PM
Thanks to John Terry, the BBC have had to publish the c-word on their website (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-18771554) for the first time ever. Even more hilarious was watching it on the broadcast news last night - bleeps and asterisks all over the place.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on July 10, 2012, 02:52:48 PM
Love this...

 "It's handbags, innit - it's what happens on the pitch,"
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on July 11, 2012, 10:00:26 PM
I guess it really doesn't need to be pointed out what a huge asshole Curt Schilling is.  But holy crap, is Curt Schilling a huge asshole.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kwyjibo on July 12, 2012, 08:05:51 AM
Thanks to John Terry, the BBC have had to publish the c-word on their website (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-18771554) for the first time ever. Even more hilarious was watching it on the broadcast news last night - bleeps and asterisks all over the place.

I thought the c-word was no big deal over there?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on July 12, 2012, 08:25:53 AM
The real c-word is Coldplay
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: lutz on July 12, 2012, 09:26:53 AM
Thanks to John Terry, the BBC have had to publish the c-word on their website (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-18771554) for the first time ever. Even more hilarious was watching it on the broadcast news last night - bleeps and asterisks all over the place.

I thought the c-word was no big deal over there?
Not in casual conversation, no, but the news is usually more formal.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: twentyshots on July 12, 2012, 11:22:51 AM


So I'm like dying.  And then someone flips the TV to the Tour de France.  This is apparently the first big hill climb and riders are dropping like flies.  They are showing like the last part of the uphill bit and it's one of those grim scenes where they are trying not to show all the riders that have pooped in their pants and whatnot.  They're in agony.  And then one dude just kind of wheels off the course and collapses.  This is not really helping me as I make my own brutal (fake) uphill climb.

hilarious.
i was already laughing but this....
Then the fan breaks.
...did me in.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on July 25, 2012, 06:51:10 PM
they haven't even started properly yet, but i already hate the Olympics.

I'm sure it'll be an enjoyable spectacle for those of you viewing it from an armchair, and I hope everyone gets a lot out of that, but - London is absolute fucking murder to get around right now. took one and a half hours to drive two miles in central London today, the tube trains are fucking rammed, and the new Olympic train timetable and yet-to-be-implemented queueing system at major train stations local to the Olympic action look like they are going to add literally hours to my daily commute when they kick in on monday. It's already 6 hours door to door, I'm envisaging it going up to 10+ during the games. that's more time than I actually am contracted to work daily. Hello, 2 hours sleep a day! hotel prices have shot up, too. Cunts, cunts, cunts.

Fuck you Seb Coe for getting the games to London. I always prefered Steve Ovett over you back in your track heyday anyway, you twat.


Looking forward to watching the Cubans in the Boxing, though, If I get the chance  ;D
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on July 25, 2012, 07:16:15 PM
I'm telling you, "Be insulted by a real Englishman" set-up in a tube stop would buy you a flat apartment in Conventry Gardens, Kensington Circus or even Camden Field.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on July 25, 2012, 07:37:40 PM
And I wouldn't even have to method act! an idea borne of genius.

A flash pad in Cadogan Square is literally 4509 "Cunts" and 16000 "Fart Hammers" away. A quid a pop, that's a day's rent at the least.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: lutz on July 27, 2012, 03:46:40 PM
A guy I knew in halls in my first year at uni is competing for Britain in the Men's Quadruple Scull heats tomorrow. Hope they do well!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on July 28, 2012, 12:39:18 PM
Whatever happened to the cheerleader who did the "ESS-PIN" the magazine commercials?   She was pretty hot. 

Was she a real cheerleader?  Could you still make that ad today?

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on July 29, 2012, 12:07:39 PM
I'm so tired of the 1999 US Women's team.  They're always, *always* like "oh yeah well when we played we pulled together as a team and won with heart and we fought and all these other women are big sissies...."

You'd think it was the greatest upset in the history of sports.  In fact it was a joke competition.  There were only two legitimate teams in the entire tournament, the US were favorites with a team that featured perhaps the two greatest female soccer players ever playing on home turf and managed not to choke it away.  That's all.  The only reason it was close was because China was dirty and one of the greatest female soccer players of all time happened to be injured in the finals.

I'll give you some credit.  It probably wasn't easy because that was an ugly physical match.  But be real about your role, which was basically to kick tiny Chinese women from behind to prevent them from kicking Mia Hamm from behind.   You won a shootout.  Big deal.  You SHOULD win a shootout when it's on your home soil and everyone else is booing the crap out of the other team.  And you didn't go out there all fired-up and with heroic thoughts.  You were out there thinking "Man, I hope Mia Hamm can score some goals and I don't screw up."

You won a shootout.  Someone took her shirt off.  And most importantly, neither of you is suspected of being gay.  That is basically all you have on your resume that somehow qualified you to yack about women's soccer for the next twenty years.  You represented a sort of white suburban aesthetic where boring rich kids could accomplish something and pretend it was because they tried real hard and were good instead because they started with every advantage in the world.  So of course tons of girls started playing soccer.  And then they stopped playing soccer once some REAL players turned up and it turns out some of them aren't white, suburban, rich, heterosexuals.

Abby Wambach is like five times the player either of you will ever be, and I bet she's not going to land that gig.  Probably neither of you could even play on the US Women's team which is saying something because the US Women's team is weak in midfield and defense.

I also can't stand Hope Solo.  But I mean, even though you are right about Buehler, she's right that you are in no position to criticize.  Plus, she's actually good.  Plus she's a GK so of course she's crazy and loudmouthed, but she's also standing up for her defenders which is what GK's do, and exactly what you would have done if you were the team players you claim to be.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on July 31, 2012, 05:26:00 PM
I just posting something about how nice it would be to have them win the World Series this year in dramatic fashion.  My mind wandered to Ryan Hanigan* hitting an improbable grand slam to seal the 7th game.  It was such a happy dream that I think I'll linger in it a bit longer.


* it HAS to be Hanigan.  Has to be.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on August 02, 2012, 03:08:14 PM
They're on a crazy roll right now.  They're playing well, and they're also playing some really bad teams.  But  still it's just like everything is going right for them.

And then once they get Votto back, it may not matter if their luck evens out a bit.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on August 15, 2012, 11:06:07 PM
Ok, it was only a friendly, but still, 1st win ever of the US soccer team in Mexico. Nice!

I watched the game (switching back and forth with the Reds game) on ESPN for a bit, and was so annoyed by the announces and the tickers at the bottom of the screen, so I thankfully noticed that Univision, the Mexican channel, was carrying the game too, so I watched that. Don't know much Spanish, but got more from that than watching from ESPN.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on August 16, 2012, 07:59:14 AM
Nice to see they still like to throw the corpse of DaMarcus Beasley out on the pitch every now and then.

Good that we got a win at Azteca, even better that it was Orozco Fiscal that scored the winner.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on August 16, 2012, 09:42:20 AM
The fix was in.  No one scores on Guillermo Ochoa.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on August 27, 2012, 02:24:44 PM
All time Spurs XI:

Pat Jennings

Steve Perryman

Chris Waddle
Paul Gascoigne
David Ginola
Steffen Frund
Ossie Ardiles
Glenn Hoddle

Jurgen Klinsmann
Gary Lineker
Jimmy Greaves

1-6-3. The way forward!  ;D

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on August 27, 2012, 02:29:15 PM
All time Villa I:

Jimmy Rimmer ( :angel:)

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on August 27, 2012, 02:36:01 PM
All Time Liverpool XI:

Bruce Grobbelaar

Julian Dicks
Alan Kennedy
Sami Hyypia
The Carragher family ( ;D)

Steven Gerrard
Ray Kennedy
Peter Beardsley
John Barnes
Jan Molby

Ian Rush
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on August 27, 2012, 02:39:06 PM
I've got a few of these, but cant be bothered to start a thread for, basically, my shit musings. The Saints and Watford ones are brilliant, though!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on August 27, 2012, 03:42:23 PM
All Time Liverpool XI:Sami Hyypia
Sw00n!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on August 28, 2012, 01:54:28 AM
The Saints and Watford ones are brilliant, though!
How close is yours to mine, metaphorically-speaking of course...

Peter Shilton

Wayne Bridge
Mark Wright
Michael Svensson
Ivan Golac

David Armstrong
Matt LeTissier
Alan Ball
Terry Paine

Ron Davies
Mick Channon
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on August 28, 2012, 08:22:24 AM
All time Villa I:

Jimmy Rimmer ( :angel:)

Hardy har har.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on August 28, 2012, 04:29:36 PM
All time Villa I:

Jimmy Rimmer ( :angel:)

Hardy har har.

 ;D
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on August 28, 2012, 04:33:17 PM
How close is yours to mine, metaphorically-speaking of course...

Two Left Backs in mine:

Antti Niemi

Mark Dennis
Mark Wright
Ken Monkou
Ivan Golac

Alan Ball
Steve Williams
Jimmy Case

Matt Le Tissier

Steve Moran
Danny Wallace

edit: 1 Left Back. And I fucking forgot Francis Benali  ;D
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on August 28, 2012, 05:39:40 PM
And I forgot Jimmy Case...

Any Greatest SFC team HAS to include Ron Davies though, c'mon!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on August 31, 2012, 12:02:24 AM
Why didn't anyone ever teach Venus Williams how to actually play tennis?  Such a waste.

And yet at the same time, she's twice the player Gerber will ever be.   
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Homsar on August 31, 2012, 08:28:43 AM
Yeah it's a shame.  She might've won something.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kenneth Toilethole on August 31, 2012, 12:35:44 PM
Antti Niemi??!!

I guess in Finland that's like having a name like Steve Johnson over here.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on August 31, 2012, 03:23:52 PM
I used to wonder if I was possible I might be the only person in the world who has ever rooted for both Antti Niemis.

There can't be that many Southampton Saints and Chicago Blackhawks fans around.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on August 31, 2012, 04:18:10 PM
There can't be that many Southampton Saints and Chicago Blackhawks fans around.


I recently met another Southampton Saints / Cleveland Indians fan. It was surreal.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on August 31, 2012, 11:56:58 PM
I recently met another Southampton Saints / Cleveland Indians fan. It was surreal.
Was that person a UFO-alien?  ;D
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on September 05, 2012, 08:05:41 AM
I miss following someone else's fake team storyline on Football Manager. Butter, ZK, Jonathan, someone! You need to start a new FM team and post about it.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: lutz on September 05, 2012, 08:10:50 AM
You could try the Pro Evo forums - they usually have some dramatic tales of European Championships won and lost in pixel land.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on September 05, 2012, 10:11:25 AM
Do I know them?

Lutz - you are perfect. You should do this!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on September 09, 2012, 04:53:03 PM
I cannot remember a time that Hannover 96 have started a season so well. in 5 games (2 league, 2 Europa League qualifiers, 1st round of the cup) we have scored 22 times. Fucking unbelievable, really. I'm sure our form will drop in....about 2 games time, but it's certainly putting a smile on all our faces up to now.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on September 10, 2012, 06:04:10 PM
Whatever the fuck happened to Freddy Adu? Is he still rotting away at a shitty Portugese club, or has he resurfaced elsewhere? He should have made it big if only for the fact he has a catchy name.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on September 10, 2012, 09:31:12 PM
Whatever the fuck happened to Freddy Adu? Is he still rotting away at a shitty Portugese club, or has he resurfaced elsewhere? He should have made it big if only for the fact he has a catchy name.
He's back in MLS, playing for the Philadelphia Union (or sitting on the bench). He also had a couple of international games last summer including the CONCACAF Gold Cup final match against Mexico.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: notoriouspbake on September 10, 2012, 09:45:30 PM
i tire of college football. it seems about as legit to me a pro wrestling - well, a bit more legit. at least the games aren't scripted, but the voting for the top 25 sure seems to be.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on September 10, 2012, 10:25:07 PM
Whatever the fuck happened to Freddy Adu? Is he still rotting away at a shitty Portugese club, or has he resurfaced elsewhere? He should have made it big if only for the fact he has a catchy name.
He's back in MLS, playing for the Philadelphia Union (or sitting on the bench). He also had a couple of international games last summer including the CONCACAF Gold Cup final match against Mexico.

He's still only 23, which is considered on the young side usually. Except it feels like he should be about 30 by now, so I'd call it an "old" 23. He has had such a journey that I think most people have lowered their expectations of him considerably, and perhaps things are evening out for him. No one thinks he's going to save USA Soccer or anything like that anymore, but he did have an incredible pass leading to Donovan's assist last summer, and for that I think he's decent enough. Not a superstar or anything, but a serviceable player I guess.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on September 11, 2012, 04:55:54 AM
*sigh* I remember when Southampton were apparently 'in' for Adu. That was a short-lived burst of excitement. However I was personally dreading the suggested chant of "Freddie-a-do-do-do" to the tune of Agadoo. Poor bastard.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: jcarwash31 on September 11, 2012, 01:35:42 PM
i tire of college football. it seems about as legit to me a pro wrestling - well, a bit more legit. at least the games aren't scripted, but the voting for the top 25 sure seems to be.

This is why college football has never really excited me.  I follow the Big Ten to a degree and root for the Gophers, as agonizing as that can be, but on the national level I really don't care.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Homsar on September 11, 2012, 02:43:01 PM
Don't worry guys!  The new BCS playoff will fix EVERYTHING.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: lutz on September 11, 2012, 04:09:54 PM
*sigh* I remember when Southampton were apparently 'in' for Adu. That was a short-lived burst of excitement. However I was personally dreading the suggested chant of "Freddie-a-do-do-do" to the tune of Agadoo. Poor bastard.
That could work in MLS.

"...push Becks over, kill Henry, aga-doo-doo-doo..."
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on September 12, 2012, 10:30:26 AM
We need a 'like' button on here
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Homsar on September 12, 2012, 12:55:24 PM
We need a 'like' button on here
^
LIKE
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on September 12, 2012, 01:12:02 PM
The Reds open next season playing an Interleague game?  That's odd.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: jcarwash31 on September 12, 2012, 01:28:01 PM
The Reds open next season playing an Interleague game?  That's odd.

The Astros will be moving to the American League so all divisions will have 5 teams.  This also means that each league now has an odd number of teams so there will always have to be an interleague matchup.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Homsar on September 13, 2012, 11:31:38 AM
Just saw an interesting tidbit in the WSJ: the Mets and Astros are tied with the worst post-All Star break record at 4-20.

AT HOME.

The Reds have more wins at Houston in that time than the Astros.  That's just turrible.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on September 13, 2012, 01:21:32 PM
I think Richard Chaplow should start trying to pass himself off as Michael Bradley. He might get to play in an international game or two.

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m109e9Cy6q1qmjodt.jpg)

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2011/1/31/1296507917097/Michael-Bradley-007.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: juggles on September 13, 2012, 06:25:21 PM
On the subject of MLS, I saw my first game in person earlier this year at Kansas City. Granted, I don't have anything to compare to but I was very impressed with the stadium and the atmosphere. I would recommend it.

(http://inlinethumb40.webshots.com/49383/2447998470101424290S425x425Q85.jpg) (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2447998470101424290jvMQZN)

The lounge is rather posh:
(http://inlinethumb41.webshots.com/51624/2412196670101424290S425x425Q85.jpg) (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2412196670101424290AsjvED)

(http://inlinethumb49.webshots.com/27760/2400665140101424290S425x425Q85.jpg) (http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2400665140101424290vNmIxB)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on September 13, 2012, 07:32:44 PM
WTF South Yorkshire Police and Margaret Thatcher and whoever else?   

I mean, okay I get why there was a cover-up, not that it's cool but I can at least sort of understand it.  But did the cover-up have to involve blaming the victims?  And then did you really have to go that far out of your way to smear them?  And how did this thing go 23 years before the truth was uncovered?  That is just seriously messed up.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: lutz on September 14, 2012, 03:46:57 AM
Blaming the fans was the only plausible way to cover it up - hooliganism and fighting were the obvious scapegoat. It was the tabloids that took it further, by fabricating stories of looting and assault. You still won't find any copies of The Sun being sold in Merseyside.

As to the failure to bring anyone to account for all these years, it's an absolute mockery of the justice system. IMO, the police superintendent in charge that day is guilty of 96 counts of manslaughter, or death due to negligence or whatever the charge is.

It's difficult to read accounts from those who were there (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/hillsborough-documents-released-brian-reade-1318730) without choking up.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on September 14, 2012, 08:30:01 AM
YNWA.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on September 15, 2012, 01:14:12 PM
96 filleted the Fish Fuckers 3-2 today. Always a big scalp (fin?) beating Bremen. Best start to the league ever. We're second, sandwiched between Munchen and Dortmund!

Ok, after only 4 games, but still. Shut up you cunts.

Edit: 3 games. Stupid International break.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on September 16, 2012, 08:32:55 AM
WTF South Yorkshire Police and Margaret Thatcher and whoever else?   

I mean, okay I get why there was a cover-up, not that it's cool but I can at least sort of understand it.  But did the cover-up have to involve blaming the victims?  And then did you really have to go that far out of your way to smear them?  And how did this thing go 23 years before the truth was uncovered?  That is just seriously messed up.

you answered your third question with your own first and second questions.

Not really any need for me to say this about the feeble old crypto-fascist, but yes. Fucking Thatcher.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on September 18, 2012, 10:08:23 PM
FABO: NHL Lockouts

Anti-FABO: This series of ads for Madden NFL 13
EtVUW-eAg40
(Sorry, Cincinnati fans)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on September 27, 2012, 10:44:22 AM
I asked myself, "How many points would someone need to give me before I placed a bet on the Browns in tonight's game?"

I decided 17.5.




My god is that depressing.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: juggles on September 27, 2012, 08:10:41 PM


Top Demands of NFL Officials' Union (http://toomuchcredit.blogspot.com/2012/09/top-demands-of-nfl-officals-union.html)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on September 29, 2012, 12:58:58 AM
Adam Greenberg is a good story, and as a Cubs fan I root for the guy.

At the same time, it would be hilarious if R.A. Dickey hit him with pitch. 

Oh, don't look at me like that.  You know it'd be funny.  Dickey's a knuckleballer, it won't hurt.  I'm not saying hit him in the face. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on September 29, 2012, 11:39:42 AM
That's hilarious. And wrong. So so wrong.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on October 09, 2012, 09:30:25 AM
On the eve of my first Reds playoff game, I have fallen into a vicious cycle of superstitious questioning most of my actions and thoughts.  I am bothered, to no small degree, that I canít remember what I wore to my last Reds win (or, for that matter) what I wore for the wins over the weekend.  Should I shave or should I let my pathetic chin sprouts continue their slow growth?  One cup of coffee or two.  Was wearing my Reds hat to work a mistake?  Is the fact that Mrs. Foolsgold and I are not going to walk into GABP together going to doom the boys to three consecutive losses?  Weíre not in our usual seats, weíve never taken chili to a game.  If I show up early to watch batting practice, will that scupper advancement plans?  Iím not eating my usual hummus sammich, granola bar, fruit lunch today so certainly thatís going to have an effect, right?

I know itís silly because I know that Dusty will fuck everything anyway by using Sam Lecure as a pinch hitter or something at some point.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on October 09, 2012, 10:07:50 AM
They can't get any luckier than they have been all season.  You could kind of say they've been lucky since last year as just about every decision Dusty Baker and Jocketty made just about every bad decision possible but were saved despite themselves.

Either that luck continues or it runs out.  But you can't do something to create mojo at this point, because wherever the Reds are getting their mojo from, it's something way more powerful than anything you can muster up.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on October 09, 2012, 10:25:47 AM
On the eve of my first Reds playoff game, I have fallen into a vicious cycle of superstitious questioning most of my actions and thoughts.  I am bothered, to no small degree, that I canít remember what I wore to my last Reds win (or, for that matter) what I wore for the wins over the weekend.  Should I shave or should I let my pathetic chin sprouts continue their slow growth?  One cup of coffee or two.  Was wearing my Reds hat to work a mistake?  Is the fact that Mrs. Foolsgold and I are not going to walk into GABP together going to doom the boys to three consecutive losses?  Weíre not in our usual seats, weíve never taken chili to a game.  If I show up early to watch batting practice, will that scupper advancement plans?  Iím not eating my usual hummus sammich, granola bar, fruit lunch today so certainly thatís going to have an effect, right?

I know itís silly because I know that Dusty will fuck everything anyway by using Sam Lecure as a pinch hitter or something at some point.


Best of luck to your lads, mate! O0

(Big Red Machine-era hairstyle, positive-thoughts-for-the-playoffs smiley)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Fourthisto on October 09, 2012, 10:58:32 AM
On the eve of my first Reds playoff game, I have fallen into a vicious cycle of superstitious questioning most of my actions and thoughts.  I am bothered, to no small degree, that I canít remember what I wore to my last Reds win (or, for that matter) what I wore for the wins over the weekend.  Should I shave or should I let my pathetic chin sprouts continue their slow growth?  One cup of coffee or two.  Was wearing my Reds hat to work a mistake?  Is the fact that Mrs. Foolsgold and I are not going to walk into GABP together going to doom the boys to three consecutive losses?  Weíre not in our usual seats, weíve never taken chili to a game.  If I show up early to watch batting practice, will that scupper advancement plans?  Iím not eating my usual hummus sammich, granola bar, fruit lunch today so certainly thatís going to have an effect, right?

You idiot... you've doomed us all! (and your haircut isn't helping, Rafe - even though it makes you look like a bobby dazzler)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on October 09, 2012, 12:11:44 PM
Dont be such a gloom-monger, Fourth. Get onside with Team Positive.

I'll be tricked out in fine garb as usual for the game, Bobby Dazzlin' in those High Life Boxing shorts you gave me, a feather boa, some of those synchronised swimming nostril-clamp thingies, a pair of magenta Uggs and a Kraftwerk t-shirt that looks decidedly metrosexual.

it's the look that will help win the playoffs. Eat your bowl of positivity-shaped spaghetti hoops and believe, brother!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Fourthisto on October 09, 2012, 01:25:20 PM
You're right.

I guess I was just hoping this series to go on for a little bit longer, for selfish reasons... as I have amazing tickets for Game 5. So forgive my conflictedness.

Glad to read you still rock those High Life boxing shorts for spexxxial occasions.

Now if you'll excuse me, it's hoop lunch hour.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on October 09, 2012, 01:27:38 PM
The Majestic and Wonderful Bronson Arroyo has been on the Hoop diet the past week. You see, it really works  ;D

(Enjoy the games, mate. Best of luck)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on October 09, 2012, 02:33:25 PM
I guess I was just hoping this series to go on for a little bit longer, for selfish reasons... as I have amazing tickets for Game 5. So forgive me for being a complete and total knucklehead by tempting fate and Mr. Foolsgold's already fragile mental stability.

Fix'd.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: jcarwash31 on October 11, 2012, 03:45:48 PM
I guess I was just hoping this series to go on for a little bit longer, for selfish reasons... as I have amazing tickets for Game 5. So forgive my conflictedness.

Playoffs 101: Don't wish for more games than are needed.  You've put your Reds in a hole in game 5.  You're only hope is some Oakland type magic, or kidnapping Raul Ibanez via teleportation.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Fourthisto on October 11, 2012, 04:31:38 PM
English 101 : Your.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on October 11, 2012, 04:42:49 PM
Come on, Reds. DO IT FOR GRANDMA!!!!!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: jcarwash31 on October 11, 2012, 04:43:23 PM
English 101 : Your.
I can't believe I did that.  I hope that doesn't jinx anything.  :D
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: juggles on October 22, 2012, 09:25:06 PM
befuddlement as nfl teams wear all pink uniforms (http://toomuchcredit.blogspot.com/2012/10/befuddlement-as-nfl-teams-wear-all-pink.html)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on October 26, 2012, 09:50:28 AM
Kevin Mitchell looks a lot like Ice Cube to me.

(http://25yearsofbaseball.com/cards/1988/topps/497_kevin_mitchell.jpg)

(http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/doughboy.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Fourthisto on October 26, 2012, 10:46:27 AM
Wow, spot on.

Have you seen "the Mitch" lately?? He actually looks better than he did in his playing days... he's the exception to the retirement bloatation rule.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on November 02, 2012, 02:04:34 PM
I am in the fight of my life in my Fantasy Football league at work, with a pivotal matchup against a co-worker this w/e whom I'd love nothing more than to crush, but I'll take a "simple" victory as well.

Here is my dilemma:

as my QB do I start RGIII (at home vs. Carolina) or Matt Ryan (at home vs. Dallas)?

in the FF season-to-date, RGIII has amassed a total of 185 FF points, and Ryan has 188, so almost a dead-heat.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on November 02, 2012, 03:26:32 PM
RGIII.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Homsar on November 02, 2012, 04:57:38 PM
Yes I believe the Dallas secondary is very good.
RG3
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on November 15, 2012, 08:08:43 AM
That Ibrahimovic goal last night? BEYOND SICK.
The Greg kept watching it over and over again.
"Every time I watch it, it's still incredible."

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Fourthisto on November 15, 2012, 10:07:26 AM
They are taking down videos (like that one) of that goal pretty quick... here's another. Love it.

az4mFb18DUE
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: va-vacious on November 15, 2012, 11:03:58 AM
wow! That's pretty amazing.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on November 15, 2012, 12:07:04 PM
I'm a little less "WOW!" than everyone else only because it was a friendly and Sweden already had the game in hand.  So it was kind of one of those things where you have nothing to lose.  If that were the finals of the World Cup with Sweden up 2-0 Ibrahimovic would of just killed the game off.  Or maybe not because Zlatan Ibrahimovic is kind of an ass but he that's what he should do.

In terms of technical skill it's pretty amazing of course. One of the best goals of 2012?  Without a doubt.  "Goal of the Century?"  No.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on November 15, 2012, 01:11:50 PM
This past weekend, my football club in Belgium, Lokeren, won again (5th in a row and now 4th in the standings), but that aside, the second goal Lokeren made in that match against Standard de Liege, is already being talked about as "goal of the year". And if I say so myself, it is quite glorious. The player that scored is Patasi, a 20 yr. old up-and comer from South Africa, already lovingly nicknamed "our South African little lion" by the Lokeren supporters (Patosi is quite small in size).

Sorry I don't know how to post the image like everyone else seems to be able to do, but here is the clip from YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zzsIiYoc4Y

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on November 15, 2012, 02:23:10 PM
I'm a little less "WOW!" than everyone else only because it was a friendly and Sweden already had the game in hand.  So it was kind of one of those things where you have nothing to lose.  If that were the finals of the World Cup with Sweden up 2-0 Ibrahimovic would of just killed the game off.  Or maybe not because Zlatan Ibrahimovic is kind of an ass but he that's what he should do.

In terms of technical skill it's pretty amazing of course. One of the best goals of 2012?  Without a doubt.  "Goal of the Century?"  No.
Well, they had the game in hand because Ibrahimovich had already scored 3 other goals against England. I think that adds to how awesdome the goal actually is. Why NOT try a bicycle kick from 25 yards out?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: lutz on November 15, 2012, 03:11:17 PM
I'm a little less "WOW!" than everyone else only because it was a friendly and Sweden already had the game in hand.  So it was kind of one of those things where you have nothing to lose.  If that were the finals of the World Cup with Sweden up 2-0 Ibrahimovic would of just killed the game off.  Or maybe not because Zlatan Ibrahimovic is kind of an ass but he that's what he should do.

In terms of technical skill it's pretty amazing of course. One of the best goals of 2012?  Without a doubt.  "Goal of the Century?"  No.
Holy fuck, really? What is the Goal of the Century, then?!

I don't mind that he's an ass, I think he's hilarious. As someone said elsewhere on the internet after that match: "Zlatan talks so much shit. And then he backs it up."
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Homsar on November 15, 2012, 03:24:07 PM
To be fair, "goal of the century" only mean the last 12 years.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on November 15, 2012, 06:26:12 PM
I'm a little less "WOW!" than everyone else only because it was a friendly and Sweden already had the game in hand.  So it was kind of one of those things where you have nothing to lose.  If that were the finals of the World Cup with Sweden up 2-0 Ibrahimovic would of just killed the game off.  Or maybe not because Zlatan Ibrahimovic is kind of an ass but he that's what he should do.

In terms of technical skill it's pretty amazing of course. One of the best goals of 2012?  Without a doubt.  "Goal of the Century?"  No.
Holy fuck, really? What is the Goal of the Century, then?!

I don't mind that he's an ass, I think he's hilarious. As someone said elsewhere on the internet after that match: "Zlatan talks so much shit. And then he backs it up."

I thought Rooney's from last year was better.  It's the circumstances of the game.  Rooney broke a tie in a huge-ass derby with that goal. 

Ibrahimovic was sitting on a hat-trick with the game most likely won.  And it was a friendly.  He could have just dribbled to the corner flag.  Plus, it was sort of a gift with Hart's clumsy header meaning he was a bazillion yards off his line and leaving an empty net.  Not to say that it wasn't technically amazing, and probably a harder shot to execute than Rooney's.  But the amazing thing is that he put it on goal at all, not so much that he put it right where he needed to be.  He really had nothing to lose by going for it.  And even Ibra, awesome as he is, probably misses that 9 times out of 10. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on November 15, 2012, 06:40:58 PM
fucking incredible goal! But, just like "What's the best song of all time?" question, the "What's the best goal of all time?" is equally subjective. I loved that goal last night, but I can name you over 50-100 goals I've seen in my life I think are better, possibly more. or at least, resonate with me more. for example, i'm no Southampton fan, but to use an example some of you can relate to, at least four or five goals scored by Matt Le Tissier during his career are streets ahead of that one last night. In my view. not to mention goals that some of you probably never heard of that i've seen in shitty little grounds around Europe, or on telly like the rest of you! It's all good banter, but there really is never any best in anything emotive like art, footy, music, boxing, cooking and literature ;D

that Brazil goal from 1970 was pretty great though, wasn't it?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on November 16, 2012, 10:05:06 AM
at least four or five goals scored by Matt Le Tissier during his career are streets ahead of that one last night.
I was going to say something like that the other day but figured it might be considered a little biased.

CzMpdLlbZm0
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on November 16, 2012, 11:51:55 AM
What about that goal Pele scored overhead off a Bobby Moore cross?  Pele had to beat like three defenders just to even set up that play.  Plus he had like five broken ribs.  And the defenders were Nazis. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2012, 06:11:48 PM
And he had to listen to the mumblings of Sly Stallone. I mean, that would take ANYONE off their game.

That Le Tiss video has Street Fighter II advertised in the background. I love it.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on November 19, 2012, 07:35:35 PM
What about that goal Pele scored overhead off a Bobby Moore cross?  Pele had to beat like three defenders just to even set up that play.  Plus he had like five broken ribs.  And the defenders were Nazis. 

Greatest goal of all time! Subjectively-speaking, of course ;D

you know, when we did that first movie draft that clemsonfan and Butter kindly officiated, I very nearly chose that film as one of my picks, but wasn't sure if it had even been seen by more than 4 people in the US. figures that one of those 4 evidently is on here. Shit, i missed a nailed-on 10 vote, it seems. Clock of life, please tick backwards you bastard!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on November 20, 2012, 12:00:07 AM
What about that goal Pele scored overhead off a Bobby Moore cross?  Pele had to beat like three defenders just to even set up that play.  Plus he had like five broken ribs.  And the defenders were Nazis. 

Greatest goal of all time! Subjectively-speaking, of course ;D

you know, when we did that first movie draft that clemsonfan and Butter kindly officiated, I very nearly chose that film as one of my picks, but wasn't sure if it had even been seen by more than 4 people in the US. figures that one of those 4 evidently is on here. Shit, i missed a nailed-on 10 vote, it seems. Clock of life, please tick backwards you bastard!
Two more of them are board members, although one of them moved to the future in Australia and doesn't post any more.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on December 02, 2012, 10:20:14 PM
Bob Costas really needs to shut the fuck up.

What a disgusting, awful little man he is.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on December 21, 2012, 09:45:37 AM
Is it just me, or is this one of the weirdest stories in sports?

Track star Suzy Favor Hamilton worked as an escort to deal with emotional issues.
http://espn.go.com/olympics/trackandfield/story/_/id/8766649/suzy-favor-hamilton-says-worked-escort
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Homsar on December 21, 2012, 10:46:58 AM
What's weird about guys who request athletic women?  She's just filling a niche.
 :P
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on December 21, 2012, 12:02:09 PM
Dude, that's actually a good point. I'd totally be into that if there was some kind of menu and the listed off their types of ladies. Or the way Arnold chooses his dream girl in "Total Recall" or something.

Is that how escort services work? Please tell me yes.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on December 21, 2012, 01:16:03 PM
1)  $600 an hour
2)  Somewhere in NV where prostitution is legal(?)
3)  Choice of clients, plus apparently you don't mind going either way so you're not that picky

I can't imagine she would have any problems at all billing 15 hours a week.  Add in 15 hours a week for workout/tanning/personal grooming.  Maybe 10 hours of real business (new photos to web, dealing with manager/pimp, emailing clients).  And that's $450k a year.  Minimum.  Because I'm sure $600 is like the minimum for her showing up at your place and standing around for up to an hour.  Anything more than that, they pay extra.  Plus tips. 

It's a full-time job, but for someone who likes working out, looking good, and having sex you're getting paid for what you love to do.

Hell, I'm not a big fan of any of those three things but I'd still rather do that than what I actually do at work.  If I could pull it off, I'd switch jobs in a second.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on December 21, 2012, 02:08:24 PM
Hah. I knew you'd have a wonderful way to look at it.


But in the end, it still comes back to... why was she doing this? She's an Olympian (which, tbf, might not be that lucrative once your glory days are over), she's successful (according to that article), she's married (perhaps not happily married, though), and she seems like she was living the life (but maybe a boring life). But all of that back in forth the previous sentence suggests why it's "weird" and not "sad" or "tragic" or anything else. It just doesn't make sense to me.

I know you just said it could be a wonderful life and that's a good reason, but if that's the case why is this such an unusual story? Is it just that most ex-Olympians don't reveal their names, and thus are never discovered while they are escorting?

I feel like there's so much to think about that my brain asplode.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on December 30, 2012, 11:24:05 PM
Wow.

I sincerely believed that it was impossible for me to hate the Packers more than I already did.  It turns out I had not even come close to pushing the boundaries.  I think I hate the Packers at least twice as much as I did before today and the amount of headroom that is still available for hating is astounding. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Homsar on December 31, 2012, 11:20:16 AM
Cause they lost?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on December 31, 2012, 03:09:19 PM
I guess you don't realize just how much you hate a team until you are forced to root for them to win.  And then yeah, they lost a game they could have easily won which I'm sure they did on purpose just to spite me. 

Although it did work out because I do kind of think Lovie Smith needed to be fired.  Even though I like Smith a lot as a coach and a person, he's had a zillion offense coordinators and never fixed the problems on offense.  The defense is getting pretty old as well.  They rely on Urlacher too much and Urlacher is pretty old.

The team needs to rebuild or at least try something different.  If they'd made the playoffs it would have been impossible to fire Smith.  Being a 10-6 team means they should have their pick of head coaches and Smith will have an easier time finding another job.  I think someone will give him another chance and he probably deserves one.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Homsar on January 02, 2013, 10:47:44 AM
Well they did go up against a running back who almost had the best yardage season ever.  Their defense isn't exactly stalwart, so they'll probably get theirs in the next game or two.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on January 02, 2013, 10:54:31 AM
totally random: my friend who now lives in Guadalajara got me this awesome football jersey of the local football club (Gualadajara Chivas) as a New Year's gift. I just LOVE the complete irony that is the "Bimbo" jersey. For those of you not in the know: Bimbo is a big bread company in Mexico (think 'Wonderbread')  ;)

(http://www.thezimmermantwins.com/Zimmerman%20Twins%20Site/eBay/BimboSoc1.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 02, 2013, 11:04:44 AM
They also sponsor the Philadelphia Union in MLS.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on January 04, 2013, 03:52:33 PM
FA Cup 3rd round weekend - best weekend on the football calendar. Come on Hastings!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on January 04, 2013, 04:04:43 PM
I'm going to be rooting for Stevenage a bit, too, now that they have Sam Hoskins from Southampton. Sadly, they lost in the first round of the FA Cup, so they are taking on Crewe this weekend. I doubt Sam will get to play, though. Thus my logical choice for fun in the FA Cup is already out.

So who should I root for? Hmmm. Bournemouth with Lee Barnard against Wigan? Brighton with Dean Hammond vs Newcastle? Nottingham Forrest with Billy Sharp vs Oldham? All of them I guess.

But for no reason at all... I'm pulling for Oxford United at home vs Sheffield Utd. They could pull that one out....maybe.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 06, 2013, 09:58:02 AM
God, I hate the Packers.

If the Texans and Bengals are in the wild card positions again next year they should both just be eliminated.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on January 06, 2013, 10:21:40 AM
I do not understand why Jon Gruden gets so much 'respect' as offensive coordinator. How is it possible that he doesn't involve their best player on offense (AJ Green) a SINGLE time in the entire first half? And then when he finally does in the second half, guess what: the offense finally starts doing something. Imagine that!

Plus Dalton is stagnating (if not regressing) as QB, not progressing, compared to last year. How he missed Green who is wide open in the end-zone on that last drive, is incomprehensible.

The Texans were there for the taking. And the Bengals couldn't do it, once again.

0-4 under Marvin in the play-offs. In many cities that would get you fired. Here it probably means a contract extension.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 06, 2013, 11:22:23 AM
Yeah, I was not impressed with that Texans team at all when they played the Bears so their late season swoon did not surprise me.

The Bears would have beaten them pretty easily if Cutler hadn't been knocked out of the game.  And you can't even give the Texans credit for knocking Cutler out of the game (or blame the Bears' terrible O-line) since they used a ridiculously cheap hit after the play to do it.

Bengals were never a legit play-off team, they just play in a weak division. That was okay last year, because at that point they looked like a team that could possibly on the rise, and just getting to the playoffs after some bleak years was a nice step forward.  But they didn't seem to get better this year.  If anything they might have been slightly worse despite the record.

I thought it was a huge break for them that they got to play the Texans, who in my mind might be the second worst playoff team but they couldn't get it done.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on January 09, 2013, 07:26:43 PM
Lance Armstrong is a twat.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on January 09, 2013, 10:53:35 PM
Lance Armstrong is a twat.
true that, but a twat who has raised $500 mill. or thereabouts for research to battle cancer.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on January 10, 2013, 07:25:59 AM
And look how much cancer we've beaten with that money.

It's a monument to his own ego, not something altruistic.  He could've raised $500 billion, and it doesn't change the fact that he is, in fact, a twat.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kwyjibo on January 10, 2013, 09:44:25 AM
So some years they just don't induct anyone into the baseball hall of fame?  I had no idea.  That's kind of like deciding to skip the best picture oscar, isn't it?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on January 10, 2013, 09:48:32 AM
So some years they just don't induct anyone into the baseball hall of fame?  I had no idea.  That's kind of like deciding to skip the best picture oscar, isn't it?
I think I heard on TV last night that it's only the second time ever that this has happened.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on January 10, 2013, 09:54:29 AM
And it's also wonderful. A Hall of Fame should mean that only the best people are qualified. If there happens to be no one qualified, there shouldn't necessarily HAVE to be inductions. I think it maintains the integrity of the institution.

A sportswriter once was waxing poetic about the great things about sports, and they included that it is still very difficult to get into the Hall of Fame.


Personally, I think Kenny Lofton should have received more than 18 votes, but I'm a little biased.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on January 10, 2013, 09:55:58 AM
And look how much cancer we've beaten with that money.

It's a monument to his own ego, not something altruistic.  He could've raised $500 billion, and it doesn't change the fact that he is, in fact, a twat.
I think you may find this perspective of interest:

The Washington Post's sport columnist Sally Jenkins last month on Why I Am Not Angry at Lance Armstrong (http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/othersports/why-im-not-angry-at-lance-armstrong/2012/12/15/5802bcce-460e-11e2-8061-253bccfc7532_story.html)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: cyclone on January 10, 2013, 10:01:53 AM
And it's also wonderful. A Hall of Fame should mean that only the best people are qualified. If there happens to be no one qualified, there shouldn't necessarily HAVE to be inductions. I think it maintains the integrity of the institution.

That's a nice narrative to create and try to remedy the situation, but the reality is that it's just a look at a broken system.  It was a very deep pool of worthy candidates this year. 

The best hitter of all-time should have been inducted, for example - Barry Bonds.

And something else that's hilarious is that Clemens actually received a higher percentage than Bonds.  When it comes to evaluating the ethics of PED use and their moral behavior, they're the same animal.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on January 10, 2013, 10:06:26 AM
I think I heard on TV last night that it's only the second time ever that this has happened.

Depends on what "it" is.  It is the eighth time that no eligible players were selected by the standard ballot method.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 10, 2013, 10:08:21 AM
It normally would have been an awesome year, as Clemens and Bonds would be first ballot shoo-ins and quite likely Sosa as well.

I have no idea why Piazza did not go in, unless it was that some people suspect him of steroids even though there's never been anything to tie him in.

Also Biggio got screwed even though he is sort of an anti-steroids type player and has also never been tied in to steroid use.  And Raines got screwed yet again.  And Jack Morris continues to be tremendously over-rated.

It just seems kind of stupid to me.  The reason these guys aren't getting in is because their stats don't look as impressive in the steroid era.  But then if you say the people who took PED's have pumped up stats and cheated, then those clean players look pretty good again.  Biggio with 3,000 hits would have been a no-brainer pre-PED.  Piazza and his 400 HR as well.  Raines was a fantastic lead-off hitter in an era where no one cared about those skills because everyone was hitting 60 HR's instead.

So it seems like the sportswriters have just decided not to elect anyone from the mid- late- 90's and then wring their hands and lecture each other over it.  Stupid.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kwyjibo on January 10, 2013, 10:16:12 AM
I don't think Bonds should get in, or Sosa, McGuire, Clemmons, Canseco etc.  Totally sends the wrong message to praise the abilities of guys that cheated with such wreckless abandon.

But I also firmly believe that Pete doesn't belong in the HoF, either.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on January 10, 2013, 10:16:24 AM

I think you may find this perspective of interest:

The Washington Post's sport columnist Sally Jenkins last month on Why I Am Not Angry at Lance Armstrong (http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/othersports/why-im-not-angry-at-lance-armstrong/2012/12/15/5802bcce-460e-11e2-8061-253bccfc7532_story.html)

I find it inscrutably ill-informed.  How about the many riders that he bullied and outright threatened behind the scenes?  The attempted bribing?  The campaign of character assassination against those who came out publicly against him?

Nope, that's cool.  He beat cancer and did some fundraising.

I don't agree with her take.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on January 10, 2013, 10:20:12 AM
The exclusion of Biggio and Piazza more just strike me as the typical "they're not First Ballot HoFers" type voting.  I think they'll both get in, just not in their first year because of the bullshit aura and mysticality around electing people on the first ballot that some voters seem to ascribe to it.  Same thing happened to Barry Larkin.  If you're a HoFer, then you're a HoFer, whether it's now or on the 11th ballot chance.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: cyclone on January 10, 2013, 10:22:02 AM
And Jack Morris continues to be tremendously over-rated.

It's hilarious when people try to make a plausible argument for Morris being HOF-worthy.  The sportswriters are blinded by good "stories" just like a little kid might be without even knowing that statistics as a measuring tool exist.  Those stories being, notably, his toughness and versatility in making so many starts and making the seven WS starts.  But he posted a career ERA of 3.90 during an era of low run scoring.  He's just average.

By the way I think I'd add Larry Walker to your list too, despite the flaws (injuries, playing in Colorado).
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Fourthisto on January 10, 2013, 10:55:41 AM
You guys expect anything else from the writers? Of course it's all screwed up if they're the ones in charge at the gates.

By the way I think I'd add Larry Walker to your list too, despite the flaws (injuries, playing in Colorado, the mullet, etc.)
Fixed.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Homsar on January 10, 2013, 12:08:41 PM
I too wanted to see Piazza and Biggio get in, but I don't mind there not being any inductions in one year or another.  It's just sad that Bonds and maybe others would have been voted in even without all the PEDs. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: jcarwash31 on January 11, 2013, 11:36:40 AM
I don't think Bonds should get in, or Sosa, McGuire, Clemmons, Canseco etc.  Totally sends the wrong message to praise the abilities of guys that cheated with such wreckless abandon.

But I also firmly believe that Pete doesn't belong in the HoF, either.
I don't think you need to worry about Canseco.

I'm still not sure how I feel about this.  I do like the thought of the Hall of Fame as a museum encompassing both good and bad eras of baseball, so you vote these guys in and include exhibits or something about the steroid era and you essentially have a historic document of this era in baseball.  I also think it's a bit dishonest to either cherry pick which guys to vote for based on allegations, perceptions, and suspicions (or hell, even real evidence because how many guys are guilty but we don't have any evidence?) or to not vote for anyone from this era at all.  Ultimately, this will lead to some unjust judgements against some players one way or the other.  So, I tend to lean towards just voting them in.

On the other hand, these players clearly knew what they were doing was ethically wrong even if baseball didn't really have any rules against it and putting them in the Hall of Fame does kind of glorify what they did.  I think it's a tough call to make.

Biggio will get in, probably next year.  Some voters just don't vote for anybody their first year on the ballot and that may have been what kept Biggio out this year.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: cyclone on January 11, 2013, 12:40:14 PM
The sport has such a long history with performance enhancers in multiple, various forms that the modern "steroid era" being so narrowly defined is a bit counter-intuitive. After all, there are plenty of spitballers and amphetamine users in the HOF. Of course, the steroid players are being held culpable due to the advancements of science and technology of the era.  And that line of thinking regarding sunning those player's eligibility cycles around to create a travesty in that players like Bagwell or Piazza get caught in the fallout and are hesitated to be voted in until there's evidence that they absolutely didn't take PEDs, when obviously there never was to begin with.

I don't think the whole issue is as completely cut-and-dry as some seem to think but I am definitely in favor of the HOF-worthy players from any era (steroid included) being voted in and not shunned due to a product of the era, while also having some sympathy for the "not rewarding ..." plight.  The history of baseball as I touched on before is a big part of it.  Keeping the stalwarts of this part of baseball's legacy is going to look really silly in retrospect, I would think, just like I think the general attitude and consensus has already shifted greatly regarding the shunning of Pete Rose.

Not having Barry Bonds in the HOF would be absolutely insane.  I think that Bonds was the best baseball player of all-time (I consider him better than Babe Ruth due to the era he played in as compared with Ruth playing in the pre-integration era), and I think you're absolutely fooling yourself is you don't consider him one of the top three hitters in history.  It's funny, we all remember the HR totals in what characterized this whole steroid era that "saved" baseball after the strike (you know, like when Bonds hit 73 of them in 2001), but a lot of people are/were too blinded by the HR chase to see exactly how great he actually was.  I mean, he posted a career OPS 1.051, and that's with 22 seasons worth of work, all the while posting excellent BB/K ratios and being an elite baserunner.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kwyjibo on January 11, 2013, 01:22:13 PM
I think you're absolutely fooling yourself is you don't consider him one of the top three hitters in history.

I consider the drugs he pumped into his arm to be one of the top three hitters in history.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on January 11, 2013, 01:25:09 PM
Babe Ruth was hitting 40 homers when the next closest guy was hitting, like, 8.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Fourthisto on January 11, 2013, 01:31:52 PM
Babe Ruth was hitting 40 homers when the next closest guy was hitting, like, 8.
Yeah, PEDs existed back then too.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 11, 2013, 01:38:37 PM
If you're going to knock Ruth down for not having good competition, I think you have to knock Bonds down since he had a huge advantage with his PED use.  Even if other people used PED's, they weren't using them like Bonds was using them.  Or what about Ted Williams losing a bunch of his prime years?

I used to think Bonds was the best in history, but I went back and looked at his stats a while ago and now I'm not so sure. His career BA is only .298 and that's AFTER some ridiculous PED-fueled .350 seasons.  And yes, he always had a good eye but before he wasn't walking 200 times a year before he started hitting .350 with 60 HR's every year.  But just as importantly, his crazy stupid years aren't just obviously messed up, they came at a time when Bonds should have been getting much worse and perhaps out of the game entirely.

He would have gone to the HoF if he retired in 1999, so he's still pretty awesome.  Probably still would have gotten to 500/500 or really close.  Certainly top twenty, probably top 10, but that's as far as I feel you can project without relying/speculating heavily on his PED years.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: cyclone on January 11, 2013, 01:43:36 PM
I consider the drugs he pumped into his arm to be one of the top three hitters in history.

1. Bonds had a HOF-calibur career even before the steroid era existed.

2. It has at this point been widely reported (such as by ex-player Eric Gagne) that over half of the players in the league during that time were using PEDs as they were so readily available and not prohibited by baseball at the time.  That leads to a couple of conclusions, both that the pure talent of Bonds transcended the competition (that included the pitchers he was facing as well) and that from a moral view you can't just signal out who the very best players of the era were in comparison to their contemporaries.  

I don't care if people aren't in favor of voting someone in due to PED use but don't downplay the accomplishments as to equate it solely with PEDs when it wasn't.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: cyclone on January 11, 2013, 01:52:04 PM
If you're going to knock Ruth down for not having good competition, I think you have to knock Bonds down since he had a huge advantage with his PED use.  Even if other people used PED's, they weren't using them like Bonds was using them.  

Pure speculation.  Bonds never even actually tested positive.  Obviously everyone including myself thinks on good authority that he did because it seems obvious both with his numbers and his physical body, and there was the "unknowingly ..." testimony, but I certainly wouldn't make the argument that you can chalk up the modern era dominance of Bonds as just juicing that much more than the competition.

His career BA is only .298 and that's AFTER some ridiculous PED-fueled .350 seasons.

BA seems kind of irrelevant when you lead the league in OBP 10 times, including four times pre-steroid era.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on January 11, 2013, 01:52:33 PM
Yeah, PEDs existed back then too.

You mean hot dogs?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Fourthisto on January 11, 2013, 02:04:49 PM
I don't care if people aren't in favor of voting someone in due to PED use but don't downplay the accomplishments as to equate it solely with PEDs when it wasn't.

Word.  8)

You mean hot dogs?

Who knows what those flappers were shooting into his biceps, but it sure did the trick. Did you read about how much weight he lost after he left baseball? HMMMMM.

I mean as long as we're speculating, why stop with what happened 20 years ago? All of this PED shit should be on Baseball for their policies and turning a blind eye, not the players. Once you start saying "Yeah he had HOF stats, but...", you say that for everyone who played the game.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on January 11, 2013, 02:54:48 PM
Pure speculation.  Bonds never even actually tested positive.

Highly corroborated speculation.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 11, 2013, 03:11:36 PM
BA seems kind of irrelevant when you lead the league in OBP 10 times, including four times pre-steroid era.

But you're arguing for him as the best of all-time.  Ted Williams led the league 12 times.  Obviously, he's a first ballot hall-of-famer without the PEDs.

In fact, I think you can make the argument that Bonds juiced precisely because he was so good.  He's the best player of our generation, and used to put up 35-40 HR's regular like clockwork.  Only by the late 90's people were hitting 45 or 50 and he was still hitting 40.  Then of course he hit 70 very late in his career and all of that corroborates with the story that he started using in 1999 precisely because he was annoyed that lesser-talented players were surpassing him.

And I'm pretty sure Bonds juiced better than most of the competition just because Bonds was such a nut about being the best baseball player ever.  Lots of guys were probably ordering steroids through the mail and injecting themselves, but Bonds was getting the Olympic shit from Conte and working out like a fiend.  Considering steroids were illegal at the time, if you were smart you had to keep it somewhat on the down-low.  So I'm reasonably certain Glenallen Hill did not have access to the same stuff/training the elite athletes had.

Of course that's speculative, but I don't see it as being any more speculative than saying Ruth was only good because of lack of competition.  If we say that half the players were using PED's that still wipes out half the league, so that kinda works against the fact that Bonds faced more competition than players from the past.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on January 11, 2013, 03:16:22 PM
Bonds before and after... Does not belong in the HOF, sorry.

(http://thebatteredfan.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/barry_bonds_before_after.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: jcarwash31 on January 11, 2013, 03:21:34 PM
Bonds before and after... Does not belong in the HOF, sorry.

(http://thebatteredfan.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/barry_bonds_before_after.jpg)
That's a little misleading, don't you think?  I mean, what is he, 18 in the first picture and 40-something in the second?  Almost all professional baseball players will look quite a bit different over that much time.  There are better photo comparisons in a more condensed time frame.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: cyclone on January 11, 2013, 03:28:03 PM
But you're arguing for him as the best of all-time. 

Yeah, and there are tons of metrics that go into that.  Unless you're signaling BA and/or OBP as the deciding factor I'm not sure what bringing Ted Williams up is supposed to represent because he had better numbers, obviously I could point out where Bonds had superior statistics, I'm not really interested in working it all out here, I've done so on my own just like everyone else has. "Best of all-time" is subjective.  I was just responding to your criticism of his BA when the reality was that he was extremely prolific at getting on base regardless of if he was hitting or drawing walks.  I don't disagree with you regarding Bonds wanting to adapt to the environment and competition when the Mega-Slugging "it saved baseball!" era started happening.  Regarding your last comment and the competition thing working against him, again let's not just focus on the steroid era itself (specifically when it became so normalized which is what was being addressed with those comments), he excelled at the sport for 22 seasons.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: cyclone on January 11, 2013, 03:30:54 PM
Bonds before and after... Does not belong in the HOF, sorry.

Thank you for bringing such brilliant insight into this already well thought out, lengthy discussion.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on January 11, 2013, 04:09:26 PM
The voters for the Hall of Fame are sports writers. No one else. Just the sports writers. I don't know why it's still that way, and I'd change it if I could, but so long as we are accepting that this is the case... you have to understand that being an a-hole to all the writers all your life cannot help your case.

It doesn't matter if he had the best statistics - if everyone who votes hated him on a personal level then he's  not going to get the 3/4 vote he needs. I think Barry Bonds will be in the HOF, it just might take a while as old grudges die and/or the older voters retire and new voters without a grudge come into power. Or people start acting more professionally and realize it's not about personal but about his play on the field (kind of... the rules do state that it can be more than just on the field performance). Of course, the same people who I just accused of being unprofessional can claim that Bonds was unprofessional to them so they should only treat him as he treated them.

Anyway, this isn't THE reason why he's not in the HOF, it's just a contributing reason.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 11, 2013, 04:10:11 PM
Unless you're signaling BA and/or OBP as the deciding factor I'm not sure what bringing Ted Williams up is supposed to represent because he had better numbers, obviously I could point out where Bonds had superior statistics

It's actually not that easy.  Bonds has better career figures, but Williams has better per-season figures in just about everything.  BA, OBP, Slugging, OPS, adjusted OPS, avg. WAR, whatever.  Bonds was a better pure HR hitter, that's about it.

Williams lost five prime years due to WWII and Korea.  Bonds almost certainly had his career accumulation stats jacked up because he started putting up monster super-insane numbers just when he should have been fading.

Bonds could run and field (but not throw), and Williams couldn't.  Then again, Babe Ruth was also one of the best pitchers of his day.

It just seems like you are arguing that we must ignore Bonds' obviously jacked up stats from PED usage.  At the same time, you are citing lack of competition from the Ruth era which is much more harder thing to quantify.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 11, 2013, 04:24:17 PM
BTW, I don't really have a problem with any of the PED guys getting into the HoF.  Even the guys who aren't Bonds or Clemens who might not (and in some case almost certainly wouldn't) make it without the juice.

Rose should never get in, though.  I think he bet on his own team, but even if he didn't just the extent to which he bet and lied to MLB about it should keep him out.  Rose cheated in the purest sense of the word.  I mean, the point of a competition is you have to try to win and you have to obey the refs/administrators.

I don't get the whole "yeah but Cobb was racist" arguments.  It's not a moral thing.  It's about the integrity of the sport.  Being racist has nothing to do with baseball.  You could have a whole league filled with racists (and we probably did for a long time) but it's still a competition.  You could field a whole league of PED users and it's still a competition, albeit one played by freaks which maybe isn't as much fun.  But if everyone is gambling on baseball and lying about it, you really don't even have a competition.  You have like, WWE or something.

I suppose I could accept the argument that Rose supposedly didn't bet that much when he played or at least he didn't have control over anything other than his own performance (and there is no way I can see Rose betting against himself).  But betting on games really is kind of the ultimate sin for a sportsman so I have no problem with him getting the ultimate penalty which really isn't much of a penalty at all considering he still gets to keep all his records and stats and stuff.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: cyclone on January 12, 2013, 01:25:43 AM
It just seems like you are arguing that we must ignore Bonds' obviously jacked up stats from PED usage.  At the same time, you are citing lack of competition from the Ruth era which is much more harder thing to quantify.

It's just a very fuzzy, fine line because we'll never know to what extent the numbers are actually blurred.  That's always been my biggest struggle with evaluating the numbers of any "user" from that era.  I'm certainly not trying to paint it black and white as to ignore the PED usage like you say, I just find it very difficult to differentiate where you can start evaluating and putting certain asterisks where in a guy's career.  I mean, obviously there are certain areas where you can pretty safely make such claims - like the 73 HR season, but beyond that I don't think it's nearly as simple as you seem to make it out to be.  As far as Ruth and the competition/era argument, that's just a conclusion I came to when comparing the two players myself.  Like I said, I'm just not really interested into getting into it here because it's an extremely tedious case study of an argument.  But ultimately yes, I do consider Bonds dominance more impressive for playing in what I consider an extremely more competitive league and era.  I didn't mean to derail of the HOF/PEDs dynamic discussion by citing Bonds as the best hitter of all-time, I just thought it was necessary to my point about thinking that he needs to be inducted.

As far as the Cobb criticism stuff goes, I think it's more that due to revisionist history, there are actually now well documented incidents that transcend the racist allegations just being an attitude and perception - he brutally stabbed a black man with a knife, choked a groundskeeper's wife, etc. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 12, 2013, 02:41:52 PM
I really don't care about Bonds or Clemens when it comes to the HoF.  I don't think we're in any danger of losing history if they don't get in.  Both of them were so good, and so larger-than-life in their personalities and their steroid trials were such huge news that they will have their proper legacy.  Bonds will, in my mind and in the minds of most fans, always be the greatest hitter of our generation and also a complete asshole.  The HoF won't change that.  If anything, NOT being in the HoF keeps them slightly more prominent in our minds than otherwise.

I think it's more the Manny Ramirez, Bagwell, Sosa, Piazza, McGwire, Palmeiro sort of players that are problematic.  We kind of need to be reminded about who these players were and what baseball was like, I think.  Because they are sort of the next-tier guys that could be forgotten.  Then again, given that some of these guys we know cheated, maybe they should be forgotten.  I don't know.  I tend to think we should include them but can see the other side.

But you and I would be having this argument over exactly how great Bonds was whether or not he used PED's or whether or not he's in the HoF.  I really don't think Bonds cares, either.  He just wants to people to recognize he was the best of all-time, and he definitely is on paper even if we think he cheated to get there.  I seriously doubt he cares that we all think he's an asshole.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on January 12, 2013, 11:40:44 PM
But you and I would be having this argument over exactly how great Bonds was whether or not he used PED's or whether or not he's in the HoF.  I really don't think Bonds cares, either.  He just wants to people to recognize he was the best of all-time.  I seriously doubt he cares that we all think he's an asshole.
I think Bonds and Pete Rose are two sides of the same coin on that regard. Except that Rose really does care and he really, really does want to be in the HOF. And by all means he should. I don't have that same opinion of Bonds.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on January 14, 2013, 11:43:46 PM
The Australian Open is happening. I am a huge tennis fan. Very disappointed that this year, unlike years past, there are no multiple channels on DirecTV to choose what match you want to watch, in fact it's only showing on two channels (ESPN or Tennis TV), and they are not even on at the same time <sigh>

Anyone else feeling my misery?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 15, 2013, 12:51:57 AM
Nope.  I can't stand tennis right now.  I find the top four men frustrating to watch because they're all so good.  And the women are frustrating to watch because they suck sooooo bad. 

Even Serena.  I actually like Serena a lot as a person, as a tennis player/competitor she's not very interesting.  Physical ability off the charts, demeanor, mental game, skills, strategy and everything else mediocre.  She only plays when she feels like it.  Her GS title count is cheesy to me because she took whole years off when the tour was really competitive and now she's beating a bunch of scrubs.  Still don't think she could beat Clijsters or Henin in their primes.  Everyone else on the women's tour are the kind of interchangeable club-stroke groundstrokers that Tracy Austin or Chris Evert would have destroyed, to say nothing of Navratilova.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Homsar on January 17, 2013, 08:37:36 AM
So this (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/17/sports/ncaafootball/story-of-manti-teos-girlfriend-is-said-to-be-a-hoax.html?_r=0) is a crazy story.  Wonder what the real facts are.  We'll hear them later today apparently.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on January 17, 2013, 12:19:53 PM
So let's pretend this guy didn't play for my team. This whole situation makes it very uncomfortable for me to talk to my co-workers about it as just sports gossip when I get to hear them talk down about people who have "internet" relationships. That kind of relationship, not to quote FB, *IS* very complicated. If he made it all up for publicity, fuck him. But, if he was honestly tangled up in something with someone but thought he was in an internet relationship, I feel for the dude. I know I've been in relationships that I thought were much more than they really were because most of the relationship took place on the phone or through email or whatever. Hell, people think it's weird that I know half of you fuckers from the internet. They don't care that I've met many of you in person. If you meet on the internet, it's weird. And we're not even in romantic relationships (or are we? This could be even more complicated than I originally thought).
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on January 17, 2013, 12:22:48 PM
And we're not even in romantic relationships (or are we? This could be even more complicated than I originally thought).

Heh. Heheheh. Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: MissKitty on January 17, 2013, 01:24:01 PM
And we're not even in romantic relationships (or are we? This could be even more complicated than I originally thought).

Well....we could be, you know...if you wanted...

Meow!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on January 17, 2013, 02:17:39 PM
So, Manti Te'o thoughts?  Crazy nutjob or innocent hoax victim?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poolio on January 17, 2013, 03:31:20 PM
And we're not even in romantic relationships (or are we? This could be even more complicated than I originally thought).
Well, if you'd quit calling the cops when I peek in your windows at 2:00am, we'd be in a romantic relationship.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: dirk on January 17, 2013, 04:07:10 PM
He may have a started out a victim but at some point he knew and just continued telling the story.  His dad has told stories about how they first met (in person).  He claimed he would call every night and listen to her sleep while she was in the hospital. How exactly does that happen with an imaginary person? there is just no way this whole thing went on for this entire time and he didn't know. 

And I love how the sports journalists are falling over themselves now.  They never checked out the story at all, or if they did they just ran with it anyway.  One even said he couldn't verify anything and when he asked Manti about it, he just said the family didn't want to be contacted and didn't want to photos of her being used, so he just ran the story anyway.  The fact that Deadspin in a matter of a week was able to uncover everything says a lot about the quality of the "journalists" reporting sports.  They never did the most basic fact checking of even making sure the girl was dead (much less ever existed).
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: jcarwash31 on January 17, 2013, 05:56:17 PM
At the very least he lied about the nature of the relationship by not correcting reports he knew were false, like meeting after the Stanford game.  Maybe he was embarrassed with it being an internet relationship so he let those things happen, but there's so much stuff that either he had to lie about himself or there had to be a team of people behind it.  One of the weirdest things is the Arizona Cardinals fullback who says this women is real and he met her in Samoa.

I think internet relationships can be very real and I can see how someone or someones could pull something like this off without the other person knowing, at least for a while.  But, there are just too many questions that need to be answered and I am finding it hard to believe that he doesn't have a part in it.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on January 17, 2013, 08:23:52 PM
So, Manti Te'o thoughts?  Crazy nutjob or innocent hoax victim?

From the little I've read and discussed...and I'm hardly someone who should be opining at all... I'm going with crazy nutjob. But I am very speculative at best.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: va-vacious on January 17, 2013, 09:56:58 PM
I'm leaning towards he told an exaggerated story that got out of control. I kinda feel sorry for him. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on January 18, 2013, 08:17:54 AM
I'm leaning towards he told an exaggerated story that got out of control. I kinda feel sorry for him.  
x2. I could see his dad saying that he met her because he's embarrassed about the idea of his son having an internet relationship. Friends saying they've met her because they don't want to be embarrassed for the guy or reveal something about him that they think is embarrassing.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kwyjibo on January 18, 2013, 08:53:08 AM
They don't care that I've met many of you in person. If you meet on the internet, it's weird. And we're not even in romantic relationships (or are we? This could be even more complicated than I originally thought).

You mean the Harem thread wasn't real?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on January 18, 2013, 02:25:40 PM
Cincinnati will announce some MAJOR sporting news very shortly.

Sadly, the news is under embargo right now, but it will doubtless make many people on this board very happy & excited indeed.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 18, 2013, 02:30:28 PM
More exciting and major than the Reds agreeing to a two year deal with Logan Ondrusek yesterday?!?  Unpossible!!!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on January 18, 2013, 02:34:42 PM
Marvin Lewis fired?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 18, 2013, 02:47:02 PM
Come one man, how would that be major?  Maybe you didn't get what I just said:  THE REDS AVOIDED ARBITRATION WITH LOGAN ONDRUSEK!!!!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on January 18, 2013, 03:01:36 PM
Andre Smith arrested?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kwyjibo on January 18, 2013, 03:53:33 PM
I googled Cincinnati Sports news and found this (http://cincinnati.com/blogs/sports/2013/01/17/florence-freedom-to-host-manti-teo-girlfriend-bobblehead-night/).  Probably not what you're referring to, but hilarious, nonetheless.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: dirk on January 18, 2013, 04:13:02 PM
The Bengals are leaving town?  Mike Brown was sodomized to death?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: va-vacious on January 18, 2013, 05:56:46 PM
I've watched the first season of Veronica Mars over the last three days (24 eps in the season). As I was drifting off to sleep last night, I was thinking about the Te'o situation as an episode in which she figures the whole thing out.  It would have been a great storyline, for sure.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: dirk on January 18, 2013, 06:31:50 PM
I've watched the first season of Veronica Mars over the last three days (24 eps in the season). As I was drifting off to sleep last night, I was thinking about the Te'o situation as an episode in which she figures the whole thing out.  It would have been a great storyline, for sure.
Kristen Bell actual retweeted someone who said the Veronica MArs would have had this whole thing figured out months ago.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kwyjibo on January 19, 2013, 12:04:28 PM
So what was this huge sports announcement?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on January 19, 2013, 04:27:28 PM
You'll read about it soon enough.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on January 19, 2013, 08:27:27 PM
Lance Armstrong is a twat.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on January 20, 2013, 11:06:07 PM
I'm looking forward to the SuperBowl. 49ers vs. Ravens should be a great game, and the intruigue of the Harbaugh brothers against each other only adds to it. I'll be pulling for the Ravens, as Jim Harbaugh seems to be an utter prick, and his older brother John not as much.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 21, 2013, 12:48:20 AM
I guess I can't discern why one Harbaugh would be less of a dick than the other.  Nor do I care.  They are both so far beyond the realm of acceptable that it hardly matters that one is .0000001 less bad than the other.

I suppose I'd prefer San Fran. just so I won't have to keep reading about what a great guy Ray Lewis is.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on January 21, 2013, 08:48:25 AM
From an article saying that the "mastermind" behind the Manti Te'o hoax may finally speak to the media:

Titus Tuiasosopo, the father, choked up as he thanked people for their prayers.

"I've been practicing how to say 'no comment' in 20 languages," the pastor told his congregation. The family has not commented publicly since news of the hoax broke.



BARF.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: trixi on January 21, 2013, 10:28:50 PM
Is the news you were referring to the All-Star game coming to GABP in 2015?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on January 21, 2013, 11:28:02 PM
Is the news you were referring to the All-Star game coming to GABP in 2015?
just heard about that too. Great news and looooong overdue. The last All-Star game here was in 1988. I had tickets to it (as I had Reds partial season tickets), and I ended up selling them for mega-money to another lawyer in my firm. Not my proudest moment but I needed the money then.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: MissKitty on January 22, 2013, 05:35:39 AM
Is the news you were referring to the All-Star game coming to GABP in 2015?
Ding ding ding! Win!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Homsar on January 22, 2013, 08:29:42 AM
Yaaaaaaay.  Start saving now!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 22, 2013, 11:26:26 AM
just heard about that too. Great news and looooong overdue. The last All-Star game here was in 1988.

How is that long overdue, with even one "o"?  There are thirty teams in MLB.  Every 25-30 years is about right.

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 22, 2013, 01:09:38 PM
Fellaini played a pretty bad game against Southampton yesterday.  Probably the worst I've seen him play this year.  He was still by far the best player on the pitch.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on January 22, 2013, 03:56:01 PM
just heard about that too. Great news and looooong overdue. The last All-Star game here was in 1988.

How is that long overdue, with even one "o"?  There are thirty teams in MLB.  Every 25-30 years is about right.
Because GABP opened in 2003. And Pittsburgh for reasons unknown (other than having had 20 losing seasons in a row) has hosted it TWICE since we last did: 1994 and 2006. Ah yes, that baseball haven called Pittsburgh.

from Wiki:

New stadiums that have not hosted the All-Star Game in markets that have hosted it previously are: Great American Ball Park in Cincinnati, Citizens Bank Park in Philadelphia, PETCO Park in San Diego, Nationals Park in Washington, D.C., New Yankee Stadium in Bronx, New York and Target Field in Minneapolis.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 22, 2013, 04:53:56 PM
GABP, Citizens Bank, PETCO were all built right around the same time.  The earliest realistic date for either PETCO or Citizen's Bank to host the ASG is now 2018-19.  Mets have 2013, Reds have 2015, Wrigley will probably get it in 2017 if not 2016.  So again, not seeing how the Reds got screwed.

As far as new NL stadiums go, they are pretty much going in order except NY jumped the queue because they're NY and Pittsburgh jumped ahead because they built the nicest stadium in baseball.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: cyclone on January 23, 2013, 09:36:17 AM
And Pittsburgh for reasons unknown (other than having had 20 losing seasons in a row) has hosted it TWICE since we last did: 1994 and 2006. Ah yes, that baseball haven called Pittsburgh.

 ::)

Someone doesn't know that PNC Park is considered by many to be the best ballpark in the league.  Nor that bad-performing teams don't not get to host the All-Star Game.  It was in Kansas City last year.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Homsar on January 23, 2013, 10:02:05 AM
::)

Ahh I love seeing the classic rolleyes.   :)

Wait, Kansas City has a team??  And which Kansas City are we even takling about?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on January 23, 2013, 02:03:06 PM

Someone doesn't know that PNC Park is considered by many to be the best ballpark in the league.  Nor that bad-performing teams don't not get to host the All-Star Game.  It was in Kansas City last year.
Yes Cyclone, I have never heard of PNC Park or that it is a nice ballpark  :o

There was no reason for Pittsburgh to get another ASG so quickly after 1994. Unless it was for the new stadium. While of course the Reds opened a new stadium in 2003.

Other than that, there is bad-performing and then is worse-performing and then there is worst-performing-in-the-extreme. That would be the Pirates' 20 losing seasons in a row. Unique in all of major league sports.**

**Even the pathetic Bengals managed only 6 losing seasons in a row in their worst stretch (1997 through 2002).
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: jcarwash31 on January 23, 2013, 02:35:00 PM

There was no reason for Pittsburgh to get another ASG so quickly after 1994. Unless it was for the new stadium.
That is exactly why.  I don't even know if the team's performance is really ever much of a factor in determining who hosts the All-Star Game.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on January 23, 2013, 03:12:04 PM
Yeah, I'm under the impression that All-Star Games are specifically NOT awarded based on team performance. I mean, this is a game that requires one player from every team, regardless if they are any good. Why would the team requirements be different.

Based on this thread, it sounds like the game is awarded based on the following criteria:
-alternates AL team/NL team every year
-baseball attempts to use the game as a "thank you" for a new(ish) stadium
-baseball also attempts to visit every stadium before returning to a stadium

Don't know if this is true or strict, but it seems about right.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 23, 2013, 03:18:07 PM
The Pirates long streak of suckiness is due almost entirely to having the most laughably awful owner in all of sports.  Maybe Jeff Loria is as bad; it's close.   It's taken them five years to dig themselves out of that hole and become competitive again.  And that's actually amazing.  I would have thought it would take at least a decade.

Other than the McClatchy-era, they're a fairly respectable team.  Long history, some famous names and memorable ballgames, probably about the same number of WS and pennants as the Reds.

So anyway, I don't think it's fair to pick on the Pirates because of that record.  They got a shit owner, and all the other owners loved their shit owner because they could always beat his team, and he never spent any money so it held down salaries and he didn't compete with them for good players.  So McClatchy wasn't ever going to get kicked out despite being terrible.  There was nothing anyone could do but wait for him to kick the bucket or sell the team.  It could happen to any franchise.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: cyclone on January 23, 2013, 03:24:26 PM
Yes Cyclone, I have never heard of PNC Park or that it is a nice ballpark

Then perhaps you should start doing some research on certain things before making comments on subjects that you're (admittedly) not educated on.  

Regarding the "losing streaks" argument, the Reds had 9 losing seasons in a row up until 3 years ago.  Which is worse than the Bengals stretch you posted, but I guess you're too blinded by the Reds recent turnaround to even remember what it was like a couple of years ago.  And that losing streak was of course going on when Pittsburgh hosted the ASG in 2006.  And considering they also had a losing season two years ago, that makes 10 losing seasons in the past 12 years.  And lastly, Pittsburgh is a great sports town.  The Steelers and Penguins are franchise powerhouses in their leagues and the atmosphere carries over on weekend series's at PNC.  Look at the attendance figures from just last year.  The (division-winning) Reds averaged 28,978 in attendance last year while the Pirates averaged 26,148.

Winning and losing isn't a factor.  
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 23, 2013, 03:32:55 PM
Would not surprise me at all if the Pirates beat the Reds in the standings and in final attendance next season.

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on January 23, 2013, 03:45:20 PM
Would not surprise me at all if the Pirates beat the Reds in the standings and in final attendance next season.

Wouldn't surprise you AT ALL?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: cyclone on January 23, 2013, 04:00:10 PM
The Pirates long streak of suckiness is due almost entirely to having the most laughably awful owner in all of sports.

Specifically Dave Littlefield's era as GM.  In retrospect it's almost conspiracy-worthy how incompetent he was, especially since it has now come out that he did things like approach other teams about settling for "lower end ML-ready talent" as trade returns rather than looking to acquire legitimate minor league talent and rejected more than one Ryan Howard for Kip Wells trade.  I think it would be hard to find someone with an all around worse drafting/trade record.  He was responsible for the infamous Matt Morris signing, and utterly horrific (completely laughable even at the time) trades like trading Jason Schmidt, Aramis Ramirez, and Chris Young for virtually nothing.  With drafting (and obviously it's more of a subjective criticism due to the sign-ability issues that other teams had to deal with as well), the facts are that he drafted Dan Moskos over Matt Wieters and Bryan Bullington (!) over players like Fielder, Grienke and Upton.  And those are just the most noteworthy, there was also drafting Brad Lincoln (a significant improvement over those guys, but ultimately just a bullpen arm) over the likes of Lincecum and Kershaw.  I don't know how he managed not to screw up drafting McCutchen, but I guess someone convinced him that there was something to drafting a 5-tool centerfielder. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on January 23, 2013, 05:53:23 PM
Yes Cyclone, I have never heard of PNC Park or that it is a nice ballpark

Then perhaps you should start doing some research on certain things before making comments on subjects that you're (admittedly) not educated on.  
 
My comment was dripped in sarcasm. Not that you would pick up on that. I mean, do you REALLY think I have never heard of PNC Park or know about it?

Anyway, enough with this.

I am looking out into the Reds stadium from my office, and the scoreboard has a HUGE message that simply says "HOME OF THE 2015 MLB ALL-STAR GAME". I'm excited for the city.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 23, 2013, 06:25:14 PM
My favorite is still John Van Benschoten.

I think the Cards are the slight favorites for the NL central right now.   Pirates and Reds are even for second best.  Reds are less likely to have a bad year, but I think they have a lower ceiling as well.  Pittsburgh is brimming with talent and it's not even like long shot talent.  More like "Is this the year or do they have to wait another one?"

I think Cueto and Bailey are legit, talent-wise but I don't think they will get 200 IP out of either of them.  They've been injured a fair amount, and now both are at that IP level in their career where someone blows out an arm.  It's amazing that none of their starters got hurt at all last year, that just can't happen again.  And I think the Reds lack rotation depth though they still have time to address it.  Also I have to think that Arroyo and Ludwick won't repeat their seasons.  And their record was seriously out-of-whack with their run differential.

OTOH, Choo helps a lot and Frazier looks good.  It's not like they are a bad team at all.  I just feel like the Reds might be as good or slightly better than they were last year talent-wise but still end up with slightly worse results.

Cubs will almost certainly finish last.  Which is okay by me because that is a result of the Astros no longer being in the division so totally worth it.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: cyclone on January 23, 2013, 07:37:34 PM
My comment was dripped in sarcasm. Not that you would pick up on that. I mean, do you REALLY think I have never heard of PNC Park or know about it?

Well, if someone says that "there is no reason" Pittsburgh got the ASG in 2006 and that it was for "reasons unknown" while simultaneously complaining that the Reds should have got one before now since they have a newer stadium, then yes I do believe that that person didn't know about PNC Park.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 23, 2013, 11:52:26 PM
I didn't really want to get into a fight about this.

Like I said before, Pittsburgh jumped the line because they built a spectacular stadium.  And frankly, that city could have used the help at that point and because they have a long tradition I think most fans wouldn't begrudge them that because they strongly wanted to see baseball stay in Pittsburgh, which was unfortunately not a sure thing in the mid 2000's.  NY got a bump because they are NY and have mad media. money, and influence.  Even hating all that stuff about NY it's hard from a business angle not to accept that giving them a little bump isn't good for baseball.

Given the alternating league pattern as well as the loose concepts Dan correctly outlined above, the Reds weren't getting ripped off nor are they screwing anyone else.  They have a new stadium, which is nice but it's not a spectacular one.  It's good for ASG because it's small unlike PetCo which would be pretty boring with it's huge dimensions. No issues with time zone and travel.  Decent capacity.  Like Pitt, also a team/city with a long, rich tradition that I think most fans would like to see host at some point because of it.  The only negative is a potential Pete Rose controversy but I'm sure in the agreement MLB was like "No FUCKING PETE ROSE EVARRR!!!" and it all works out.

Add it all up and there's no compelling reason to either screw them over or to jump them ahead.  Which is exactly what is happening.  They are getting the ASG right pretty much exactly according to schedule so they deserve it and I got no problems with it at all.  The only stadium that could possibly make a better claim to get the ASG in 2015 is Wrigley since we haven't had it in even longer and it is in a bigger market, also with a long history and the stadium is a baseball mecca on par with PNC (though for different reasons).  But Wrigley is all messed up right now and needs renovations which it will be getting so it wasn't ready to host in 2015.  Thus making Cincinnati the logical choice.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on January 24, 2013, 06:47:32 AM
OTOH, Choo helps a lot and Frazier looks good.  It's not like they are a bad team at all.  I just feel like the Reds might be as good or slightly better than they were last year talent-wise but still end up with slightly worse results.

I think it'd be hard for them to equal a 97-win season, but even 90-91 wins should be good enough to either win the division or the WC.  Plus, the Reds have a couple of young arms in the minors who may be nearly ready to fill in the rotation if necessary.  I agree that getting everyone through the season healthy again will be nearly impossible, but that will hardly be the kiss of death.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 24, 2013, 10:35:01 AM
Did you build in the "No more Astros" loss factor? ;D

But I think you are right.  At least one wildcard is going to come out of the Central.  The Reds and Cards are both maybe 90 win teams.

I give the Cards the edge because they had that crazy run differential last year that was so much better and I think they have a little more depth/ability to improve via trade.  Then again, they will probably need that depth as they've got some brittle players.  Also, the Reds probably will win more than their run differential compared to Cards on account of Chapman.

The Votto factor is interesting.  I didn't count a healthy Votto as a plus for the Reds because they were crazy awesome without him which I felt was lucky.  But you could also look at it like they are legit that good so what happens if they have Votto for an extra month?

Reds and Cards are 90 win teams.  Pirates maybe 80-85.  But the Pirates could easily gain 5-10 wins if they decide to trade prospects.  Their farm would go from top 5 to bottom half, so it would be a significant hit but it still wouldn't be completely gutted.  And they could restock that over the next couple years if Huntingon is good which I think he is.  If they get players they can keep around for a couple of years, it might be worth it.

I don't think they will do that as it makes more sense to wait.  But they could.  They showed good judgment last year in making modest deals for players that were decent and keepable rather than going for it.  But this year they will probably think harder about going for it.  So let's say they get off to a good start which could easily happen.  At midway they are doing a little better than last year, so maybe only 2-3 games out. 

At that point, they could acquire an ace-ish pitcher and let's say McDonald with a full season under his belt doesn't fade horribly again.  That's a big one-two punch, and Wandy and Burnett is a very good #3/#4 combo so that would be a solid rotation. 

The percentages say that out of Sands, Marte, Pressley, Tabata, and Snider they should end up with two at least decent OF's.  Who knows about Alvarez, anything could happen.  But suppose he duplicates last year, that's a solid power hitting 3B for them.  Jones/Sanchez as a platoon makes for an average-ish 1B.  Walker is unexciting but gets the job done. 

So that would be pretty nice offense and defense and the MVP-caliber guy in McCutcheon to tie it all together (and match Votto for the Reds).  On the other hand, if they are as few as just 5-6 games out I think they'll just opt to wait for next year so none of that will come to pass.

The Reds could get a pile for Hamilton and Choo along with Gregorius in the minors maybe gives them that option, but I don't know.  I think they'd be pretty foolish to do that.  I don't know if they have the payroll to add salary either.  They've got to be stretching it to the limit at this point.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on January 24, 2013, 10:39:43 AM
I believe we traded Didi to Arizona in the Choo trade.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 24, 2013, 11:05:43 AM
Shit, that's right.  I forgot.  So yeah, then they really need to hang on to Hamilton. 

I love that guy.  Not just for his ability, but specifically on the Reds.  Because the Reds have Chapman, so him and Hamilton would make for two completely freakish guys.  A guy who can throw 105 and a guy who can steal 105 is a cool thing to think about.  Plus how much fun would close late inning games be?  I know the Reds have GABP which is a homerun haven, but lead-off speedster is a NL tradition so he should play for a historical NL team.  So it's good "throwback" as well.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on January 24, 2013, 12:22:15 PM
How's that minor league player who's supposed to be frighteningly fast doing for the Reds? Is he ready yet?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on January 24, 2013, 12:25:57 PM
That's Hamilton.  He's probably another year away.  They are transitioning him to CF, whereas up until now (or until the Arizona Fall League) he had played at SS.  They could probably force him into the lineup this year if they were desperate, but he still needs some seasoning.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Homsar on January 24, 2013, 04:05:04 PM
Maybe a midseason callup or a September one.  Can't wait.  Neither can Votto.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Fourthisto on January 24, 2013, 04:17:05 PM
How's that minor league player who's supposed to be frighteningly fast doing for the Reds? Is he ready yet?
SUPPOSED to be? What's it like under that rock?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 24, 2013, 04:55:51 PM
Maybe a midseason callup or a September one.  Can't wait.  Neither can Votto.

They don't have a place to play him now.  Choo, Bruce, Ludwick in OF.  Phillips at 2nd, Cozart at SS.  Unless Ludwick sucks, which I suppose is a distinct possibility.  But I agree with Butter that a full year at AAA would do him some good.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: trixi on January 24, 2013, 06:16:11 PM
How's that minor league player who's supposed to be frighteningly fast doing for the Reds? Is he ready yet?
SUPPOSED to be? What's it like under that rock?
He's not under a rock...he just can't see the jumbotron :P
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on January 30, 2013, 03:29:43 PM
St. Xavier's Steve Specht is the NFL High School Football Coach of the Year (http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20130130/SPT030101/301300122/Specht-named-national-coach-year?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|p)

Amazing. He's truly one of the 'good guys' and his track record speaks for itself. Go Bombers!  8)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Fourthisto on January 30, 2013, 05:31:34 PM
He's not under a rock...he just can't see the jumbotron :P

ZING!  ;)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on January 31, 2013, 02:48:03 PM
Beckham signs with PSG, donates salary to charity (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1320998/paris-saint-germain-signs-david-beckham-for-5-months?cc=5901)

Great move for both sides. Of course this assumes that he can actually claim a starting spot on that team.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kenneth Toilethole on February 01, 2013, 09:38:29 PM
Would anyone else be interested in going to this?

http://www.cycloneshockey.com/news/923/pucks-n-pints-friday-february-15/ (http://www.cycloneshockey.com/news/923/pucks-n-pints-friday-february-15/)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Homsar on February 04, 2013, 08:49:17 AM
Damn 49ers!  Screwing me out of $100!  How dare they not score that TD at the end of the 1st quarter and go for 2 at the end of the 3rd?!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on February 04, 2013, 08:59:53 AM
We were driving through the northern suburbs of Atlanta on Saturday and saw a sign in front of a restaurant that was advertising Super Bowl Specials.
"Specials include The Ray Lewis Lasagna - You Can't Eat it Without a Knife".

There is no love for him in this town.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: daytime drinking on February 04, 2013, 11:56:40 AM
ah who's that's a bearcat?  jermaine lawrence bitches! 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: va-vacious on February 04, 2013, 04:45:41 PM
Does anyone like Ray Lewis? I see nothing good in the Nashville news about him.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on February 04, 2013, 08:56:22 PM
Does anyone like Ray Lewis? I see nothing good in the Nashville news about him.
People in Baltimore? I believe someone even has his jersey.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: va-vacious on February 04, 2013, 10:33:26 PM
OK, does anyone outside of Baltimore like Ray Lewis?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on February 06, 2013, 11:30:57 PM
Bad loss for the US soccer team today at Honduras, the first game of the final WC qualifying round...
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on February 07, 2013, 08:04:15 AM
Yeah, it's some serious crap. The good news is that Mexico, the favorite, dropped two points to Jamaica. The bad news about that is that the USA will have a tough time with Jamaica, too.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on February 07, 2013, 08:09:31 AM
Did you hear? The Cincinnati Royals are moving to Seattle.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on February 07, 2013, 09:43:53 AM
Did you hear? The Cincinnati Royals are moving to Seattle.
Yup. It still blows the mind that once upon a time there was an NBA team here....


(http://www.michael-weinstein.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/cincinatti.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on February 07, 2013, 01:49:05 PM
Yeah, it's some serious crap. The good news is that Mexico, the favorite, dropped two points to Jamaica. The bad news about that is that the USA will have a tough time with Jamaica, too.
Am I right in thinking three, rather then two, countries go through from this group? If it was two I think the USA would already be phuqed
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on February 07, 2013, 01:58:11 PM
Three go, and then 4th place plays Oceania's champ for a final spot.  There's a long way to go still.  Honduras is probably one of the top 3 favorites to qualify, so a road loss there is not terrible.  It's not good, but it's not TERRIBLE.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on February 07, 2013, 03:49:46 PM
You are right, CR. We have THE HEX!!!!

6 teams competing for 3.5 spots.


(yes, I just said the same thing Butter said solely because I wanted to talk about THE HEX!!!!)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on February 08, 2013, 12:28:47 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/32694/no-jockstrap-required


Susan Petrone...wasn't she on the WOXY boards? Or am I mixing her up with someone else?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on February 08, 2013, 12:38:23 PM
Yes! She totally was on the WOXY boards. I remember her talking about her trip to Asia to adopt her little girl. Fantastic! Way to go Susan!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on February 08, 2013, 12:40:21 PM
Did you really just answer that question yourself?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on February 08, 2013, 01:32:18 PM
What was her WOXY name?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on February 08, 2013, 02:53:28 PM
Gah. I have no idea - I was hoping someone else would remember. Maybe Susan? I dunno.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on February 08, 2013, 04:33:22 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/32694/no-jockstrap-required


Susan Petrone...wasn't she on the WOXY boards? Or am I mixing her up with someone else?
Sushie was her WOXY name.

She and several of her (female) friends do a Cleveland Indians ESPN blog called It's pronounced Lajaway (http://itspronouncedlajaway.com/), which is the equivalent of the Redleg Nation ESPN blog for the Reds, and you'll see Sushie's name regularly on the ESPN website during the baseball season, including for the Power Rankings.

She and i went back-and-forth via email last year regarding her blog, which is named after an Indians player with a weird name, whose correct phonetic spelling is in fact not "lajaway". How ironic is that!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on February 08, 2013, 07:42:05 PM
I believe she also works for SABR, so yeah she's legit in her passion and knowledge of baseball.  She and predot could likely destroy any of us in a baseball debate.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: cyclone on February 08, 2013, 07:49:10 PM
She and predot could likely destroy any of us in a baseball debate.

There were a lot of good, knowledgeable baseball people there.  And then there was the Astros apologist.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on February 08, 2013, 09:14:48 PM
Yeah, he wanted to bet me the Astros would finish in front of the Cubs which I would have gladly taken except that it was the stupidest bet ever.  But it wasn't even like he thought they were better than low hanging Cubs fruit; he was talking trash about how the Astros might win the division.

I have never read the blog (although if I remember, didn't she also write an actual book too?  Not about baseball, some kind of chick-lit thing?) but I assumed it was referring to Napolean Lajoie who Clevelanders love, butane in his veins and glue in his glove or whatever.  And come to think of it, I actually have no idea how to pronounce "Lajoie."  In my head I say it French-style, but maybe it was Americanized. 

Or maybe it's some other player because why would Euro60 of all people think Lajoie was a weird name? 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on February 08, 2013, 10:12:34 PM
She and i went back-and-forth via email last year regarding her blog, which is named after an Indians player with a weird name, whose correct phonetic spelling is in fact not "lajaway". How ironic is that!

As the resident Indians fan around here, I can tell you it was named after Napoleon Lajoie, a player from the early part of the 20th Century who was one of the best in the league. He was so good, in fact, that for a little while the team was named the Cleveland Naps for him. I've never known how to pronounce it, so may I ask what you think the correct phonetic spelling should be?

Anyway, I didn't know that Sushi, who I did know worked for SABR for a while, ended up working for ESPN. Good for her! I'm glad to hear of some successes!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on February 08, 2013, 10:44:57 PM
didn't she also write an actual book too?  Not about baseball, some kind of chick-lit thing?
I wouldn't really call A Body at Rest chick-lit, even though it features 2 female protagonists. It was a fun read.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on February 08, 2013, 11:51:04 PM
Or maybe it's some other player because why would Euro60 of all people think Lajoie was a weird name? 
Lajoie is not a weird name at all. And if you pronounce it the right (European) way, it sounds nothing like "Lajaway" as in the blog title, hence my back-and-forth emails with Susan last year
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on February 09, 2013, 08:47:58 AM
So are you going to tell us how you think it should be pronounced?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on February 09, 2013, 09:31:17 AM
The French way is La-JWAH.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on February 10, 2013, 10:10:20 AM
The French way is La-JWAH.
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on March 06, 2013, 02:52:42 PM
I got my tickets to the Masters (Monday practice round) on Monday. Did you hear the angels sing?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on March 18, 2013, 06:24:51 PM
International friendly:

Team USA vs. Belgium
CLEVELAND, May 29, 8 pm

http://www.ussoccer.com/Schedule-Tickets/2013/130529-US-Men-vs-Belgium.aspx

I'll be there one way or another  ;)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on May 16, 2013, 12:23:07 AM
A simple two step plan to improve US soccer:

1)  Fire Tab Ramos
2)  Hire Earnie Stewart

An even simpler one step plan:

1) Fire Gulati
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on May 19, 2013, 06:56:47 PM
So this was weird.

I'm at the grocery store today, and I get to the checkout line which is long.  So I look at the dude in front of me, and he is wearing an Anderlecht Lukaku jersey.  So I'm trying to make some polite chit-chat and I go "Hey, nice game.  You must be happy."

Dude just looks at me like "Whatever, fuck you."

So I'm like "uhh... no, your shirt.  Lukaku? He looked great today.  Nice result for Anderlecht as well."

Dude says "I know what my jersey says." 

That's was the conversation.  Like he was tired of people talking about his shirt or something.

Why is he mad?  How many people does this dude run into in the US, in Richmond Virginia who even know who Lukaku is?  And what are the odds you would randomly meet that guy, on the day that Lukaku comes off the bench and scores a hat trick. In ten minutes.  Against Manchester United.  To overturn a 5-2 deficit.  On the same day Anderlecht wins the the Juliper title.

It's not like you just walk into a sporting goods store and they have official RSC Anderlecht Romelu Lukaku jerseys on sale and you just buy one because you don't care.  No, you have to go through considerable effort and expense to get one of those.  So I surmise that if you are wearing a Lukaku Anderlecht uni, then you are either a fan of Lukaku, and/or Anderlecht, and/or Belgian football.  Likely all three.  And if so, surely this has to be one of the best freaking days EVER.  It would in fact, be somewhat rude of me NOT to acknowledge what a massive day this is for you and not congratulate you in some form, wouldn't it?

I have no people skills.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on May 19, 2013, 10:59:31 PM
So this was weird.

I'm at the grocery store today, and I get to the checkout line which is long.  So I look at the dude in front of me, and he is wearing an Anderlecht Lukaku jersey.  So I'm trying to make some polite chit-chat and I go "Hey, nice game.  You must be happy."

Dude just looks at me like "Whatever, fuck you."

So I'm like "uhh... no, your shirt.  Lukaku? He looked great today.  Nice result for Anderlecht as well."

Dude says "I know what my jersey says." 

That is an amazing anecdote (being from Belgium myself). Where did this happen?

I wish someone would make a nice comment like that when wearing my Red Devils jersey  8)

And by the way, while Anderlecht did win its 32th championship title today, they did it by hanging on by the skin of their teeth. They just managed a 1-1 draw at home against Zulte-Waregem, the other title contender which was the complete surprise of the competition. For those not so close to it, it'd be like a baseball team from, say, Toledo or Louisville, challeging the New York Yankees for the World Series.

Sadly, my team (Lokeren), underperformed in Play-off 1, although for them the fact that they even qualified is the prize itself, Lokeren being, like Zulte-Waregem, a second tier team.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on May 19, 2013, 11:50:48 PM
That is an amazing anecdote (being from Belgium myself). Where did this happen?
Euro, keep reading, as that's mentioned two lines after you stopped your quote.  ;)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Homsar on May 20, 2013, 08:46:51 AM
Dude says "I know what my jersey says." 

What a dick.  I hate when people wear clothes that proclaim their support for something and then don't expect people to comment about it.  Seems to me most people would want someone to comment about a good game their team had. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Fourthisto on May 20, 2013, 09:51:25 AM
Why is he mad?

He didn't get to watch the game, because right before it started his Grandmother ran over his dog in the driveway, and she then had a stroke. While taking her to the hospital, he was rear-ended by a Fiat and it literally scared the crap out of him. So after dropping her off, he had to go to the grocery and get some adult diapers to wear for the rest of the day as he fills out insurance paperwork at the hospital and makes funeral arrangements for his best friend since he was a kid.

As Doc Holliday would say, "Forgive me if I don't shake hands."
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on May 20, 2013, 09:52:33 AM
That is an amazing anecdote (being from Belgium myself). Where did this happen?
Euro, keep reading, as that's mentioned two lines after you stopped your quote.  ;)
Ah darnit, I somehow missed that the first time....
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: cyclone on May 20, 2013, 10:20:50 AM
He didn't get to watch the game, because right before it started his Grandmother ran over his dog in the driveway, and she then had a stroke. While taking her to the hospital, he was rear-ended by a Fiat and it literally scared the crap out of him. So after dropping her off, he had to go to the grocery and get some adult diapers to wear for the rest of the day as he fills out insurance paperwork at the hospital and makes funeral arrangements for his best friend since he was a kid.

Even if that all happened I don't think it's acceptable behavior to say "fuck you" to some who compliments you.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Fourthisto on May 20, 2013, 11:14:42 AM
Even if that all happened I don't think it's acceptable behavior to say "fuck you" to some who compliments you.

Definitely not acceptable, just saying that "Why" doesn't matter.

Oh, and I didn't think the guy actually said that, since Z said dude "just looked at me like"
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on May 20, 2013, 11:25:35 AM
Maybe he hadn't heard or seen the result yet?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on May 20, 2013, 11:32:49 AM
The Cleveland Indians have faced 8 former Cy Young Award winners this year. They are 7-1 against them. Amazing.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on May 21, 2013, 11:52:02 PM
the US-Belgium soccer friendly is coming up next week Wednesday in Cleveland. There are a number of related events (Belgian busines roundtable, ceremony at City Hall). I'll be there for all of those.

In speaking with someone from the Belgian soccer federation today, I asked why of all places, this game is at Cleveland. He told me that was a decision by the US soccer federation. Something to do with the tons of young soccer players in NE Ohio. Which I think can be said about just any metropolitan area in the US, but that's just me.

The Red Devils are flying out to NY at the end of this week and spending some days there. Doing what, I have no idea, Then they fly out to Cleveland next Tuesday.

Anyway, really looking forward to next week Wednesday.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on May 24, 2013, 01:34:37 PM
In my RSS feed there was a headline that said "Chavs like Noel at #1"  I was like nofake.  I guess these are some pretty old chavs we're talking about, or maybe more like chindies but still, if you took a poll I could easily see why Noel Gallagher would be their favorite singer. 

But after seeing this in my RSS thingy all morning, I finally thought, "Hey, why is this in the sports section?"  And then I realized the headline was actually "Cavs like Noel at #1."
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on May 26, 2013, 11:11:57 AM
Mark Cavendish is an absolute machine. The guy has sprinted out of his socks during this pretty gruelling Giro d'Italia, and has won the final stage to add to his other stage wins, finishing like a rocket. so that's the red points jersey in the bag. Great effort.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on May 26, 2013, 11:42:50 PM
Cavendish won FIVE stages in the Giro. Wow.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on May 29, 2013, 02:55:22 PM
Greetings from Cleveland. Checked into the hotel this morning. Immediately ran into Vincent Kompany and Romalo Lukaku at the bar (they were drinking Starbucks, I might add).

The entire delegation (team, soccer federation officials, media, etc.) is in this hotel. It feells like Belgium has overtaken the hotel. Incredibly, they do not have a single Belgian beer at the hotel's restaurant. We were at lunch and several of my guests asked for it. The waitress looked like a deer staring into headlights. The manager came over, and I asked him "do you realize the hotel is full of Belgians?", and he said he was. "And you don't have a single Belgian beer?" "No, sir", he responded sheepishly.

(I also noticed a bunch of Reds fans checking in. Reds at Indians while at the same time USA vs. Belgium. I wish I could be at both, but I'll be at the soccer game.)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on May 29, 2013, 03:43:23 PM
Neat story, euro. Keep us updated!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on May 29, 2013, 07:21:48 PM
"Hey man, have a good game."
*glare*
"Oh I mean, the football game?  Because you're Romelu Lukaku, aren't you?   And you're playing the US tomorrow."
"I know who I am.  And don't tell me what kind of game to have, mister."
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on May 30, 2013, 01:03:46 AM
That was a footballing clinic, right there. 

The US team was not good, but the Belgian team was pretty awesome. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on May 30, 2013, 09:31:45 AM
That was disaster for the US. I watched it and it was neat to see how much better one tiny little nation can be compared to our 3rd largest nation in the world. The Belgians were more organized, more coordinated, more skillful, faster, better, stronger, etc etc.

Comments like "well at least the US won't have to play a team of this caliber in their World Cup Qualifying" is dumb because, assuming we do qualify, we will HAVE TO PLAY THEM IN THE WORLD CUP. Duh.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on May 30, 2013, 11:10:30 AM
If you saw that crazy group of Belgian fans waving the flags at one point during the game (I think after the second goal), you almost certainly saw me on TV. Several of the people that were sitting with me got messages on their phones saying "we just saw you on TV".

Anyway, I was shocked how poorly the US team played, particularly on defense. Keep in mind, this was not even Belgium's best line-up. They held back several players for different reasons. No Eden Hazzard, no Thibaut Courtois, etc. Plus they made tons of substitutions, even in the first half.

After the game, the hotel was rocking and rolling. The Belgian team showed up at about 11, and not long thereafter the Reds showed up too, although sadly there was no reason to rock with them yesterday. Even though the hotel made clear not to ask for pictures or autographs, the Red Devils, obviously in a great mood, did just that. One of my friends got a great picture with Vincent Kompany.

With this victory, Belgium will move up to No. 13 in the FIFA rankings, an all-time high. Which will make it only so much more devastating if somehow the WC qualification slips away. Don't laugh, nothing is a sure thing.

As to the US, they've got lots more work to do. And they need better players, frankly.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on May 30, 2013, 04:35:45 PM
We're just nowhere near Belgium's class.  Doesn't surprise me. 

I don't know why people thought Klinsmann would somehow make a difference.  Our players are superbly fit and work hard but they're just completely lacking in talent.  No way for a manager to fix that.

Still, its less frustrating than watching England.  They're distinctly average as a side, but still better than US.  They actually have some options, and yet they pick the same crap players again and again.  Their players don't even appear to want to be there. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on June 01, 2013, 12:19:16 AM
one more funny anecdote about Wednesday... mid afternoon the Belgian delegation had an 'official" visit with the Mayor of Cleveland. The Belgian Soccer Federation representative gave a Belgian team jersey to the Mayor, and when he unfolded it, the Belgian Soccer Federation guy mentioned it was signed by all of the Red Devils players. We (the Begians) gasped... OMG... What I wouldn't give to have that jersey! The Cleveland Mayor clearly didn't grasp how special that was.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: crewbilly on June 03, 2013, 06:51:13 PM
Hey where is the love for the US beating the German's z team? In my book a wins a win.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on June 04, 2013, 07:22:52 AM
Hey where is the love for the US beating the German's z team? In my book a wins a win.

Means about as much as getting crushed by Germany.  But anything that can help the team's psyche is ok in my book, even if Germany was only fielding 3 normal starters and had a keeper that appeared to have been ordered in special from the Acme Keeper's Organization.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on June 04, 2013, 04:46:23 PM
The LFC 3rd kit for the 2013-14 season is ALMOST as bad as last year's. UUUUUUUGH.
Quit uglying it up around there, Warrior. I like your plain, simple kits the best.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on June 04, 2013, 06:43:54 PM
LFC's third kit is awful. But it's nowhere near as hideous as the away kit.  They look like something from 1990 that even people from 1990 wouldn't wear.  If I were Brandon Rodgers I would start showing up for games in Zubaz pants and an 8 ball jacket.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Fourthisto on June 05, 2013, 08:23:26 AM
Hey where is the love for the US beating the German's z team? In my book a wins a win.

 ::) Typische Amerikanischen unŁbersichtlich Trottel Kerl.  ::)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on June 05, 2013, 08:59:49 AM
LFC's third kit is awful. But it's nowhere near as hideous as the away kit.  They look like something from 1990 that even people from 1990 wouldn't wear.  If I were Brandon Rodgers I would start showing up for games in Zubaz pants and an 8 ball jacket.
At least it isn't purple. PURPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on June 05, 2013, 02:01:47 PM
Hey where is the love for the US beating the German's z team? In my book a wins a win.

Means about as much as getting crushed by Germany.  But anything that can help the team's psyche is ok in my book, even if Germany was only fielding 3 normal starters and had a keeper that appeared to have been ordered in special from the Acme Keeper's Organization.

Looking at this a day later, I meant "means about as much as getting crushed by Belgium."  Good job, dipshit.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on June 25, 2013, 10:10:31 AM
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mrloganrhoades/jay-bruce-the-man-who-couldnt-hit-a-single-a-childrens-baseb (http://www.buzzfeed.com/mrloganrhoades/jay-bruce-the-man-who-couldnt-hit-a-single-a-childrens-baseb)

Jay Bruce just wants a single (and not from Wendys.)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Homsar on June 26, 2013, 12:31:27 PM
Still no singles.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on June 26, 2013, 01:06:37 PM
My estimated NTRP ratings of celebrities I have seen playing tennis in videos, and whether I feel I could beat them if both parties were given a month to get in tennis shape and their timing back:

Gavin Rossdale:  3.5/4.0  YES
Steve Harris/Adrian Smith:  3.5/4.0 YES
Shannon Elizabeth: 4.0 YES
Kaley Cuoco: 4.5 YES
RedfFoo: 4.5 NO





Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on June 26, 2013, 04:26:25 PM
RedfFoo: 4.5 NO

I thought this was a horrific typo, and was all set to make fun of you, then decided to google it to be sure.

This is a person that exists.  Fuck me.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on June 26, 2013, 04:27:30 PM
Aaron Hernandez figuring that if the Juice could get away with it, so could he.  Sadly, video surveillance equipment and cell phones are much more ubiquitous now than they were 20 years ago.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on July 08, 2013, 12:44:22 AM
The new Southampton kits are hideous.  The only plus about it is that probably half the teams in the Premier League are using the exact same template just in different color schemes so they look just as bad or worse.  Then there's Arsenal. And Newcastle Wonga.  And Tottenham's third kit.

So yeah, I guess it could have been worse.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on July 08, 2013, 12:03:25 PM
I don't mind the all-red, although I don't know why they are going in that direction.
The weird white on the sleeve is definitely strange.
The all gold logo isn't bad - I've been wanting a change to that very 1970s style logo for a while. I wouldn't have gone in the direction they did, but I appreciate the effort at least.
I'd have gone back toward the sash and collar kit of 2010 rather than to a completely new scheme.

I seriously don't understand why Adidas can't do a better job on the whole, though. I mean, templates? Really? What's the point?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on July 08, 2013, 12:11:03 PM
Are they trying to look like Liverpool?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on July 08, 2013, 01:24:28 PM
That's what we thought last year.

Now, I just think they want to be Arsenal.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on July 09, 2013, 11:09:27 AM
Blame Adidas and their shitty template notion. A company as big as that can't do bespoke designs? What a load of crap.

It's a horrible shirt. Maybe the worst the club has had in a long time. Even people I know who bought last season's strip begrudgingly are staying well clear of this one. The gold logo etc is the final tacky nail in the coffin of it all. Ugly, ugly, ugly.

It shouldn't matter of course, our performance on the pitch more important than anything else, but as a long-term Saints fan I hate how the clubs identity has been eroded by the disappearance of the stripes. I'll still wear my old red & white to the pub, but now have to hope the other patrons don't mistake me for a Stoke (or much worse) Sunderland supporter.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on July 09, 2013, 01:26:02 PM
I'll still wear my old red & white to the pub.
Speaking of red & white, when I was in Gualajara last Fall, I just HAD to buy the football jersey of the Chivas, which is truly a classic, in part because of their long-time sponsor (Bimbo is a famous bread company in Mexico--yes, BIMBO!). You should see the looks when I wear it going out and about, eg t my local library or to Krogers

(http://www.aztecasoccer.com/images/ACMF7300.jpg)

/derail
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Homsar on July 09, 2013, 01:32:12 PM
You think that's bad?  Not nearly as bad as what hockey can do:

(http://puckdrawn.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/ugly_jerseys1.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on July 09, 2013, 01:50:56 PM
BIMBO is the sponsor for the Philadelphia Union here in the MLS, so they aren't that strange. But yes, still strange.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on July 09, 2013, 04:12:12 PM
Blame Adidas and their shitty template notion. A company as big as that can't do bespoke designs? What a load of crap.

I don't really get how that works.  Because Adidas and Nike make stuff for teams in the US and it's not a template.  Even college teams.  If you play tennis and you are ranked in the Top 10, you get custom designs, not even just the colors but the tailoring.  And no one freaking buys pro tennis player shirts unless they want me to laugh at them and kick them in the nuts.

The other thing that's weird is that Cortese-- the man who is famous for being stubborn, a cheap-ass, and totally, stupidly, ridiculously demanding and anal would just be okay with this.  Like "Yeah, just do that basic red and white one, whatever, I don't give a shit." 

Unfortunately, if Saints sign Wanyama I think I'll have to get a Wanyama shirt.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on July 11, 2013, 02:40:56 PM
Unfortunately, if Saints sign Wanyama I think I'll have to get a Wanyama shirt.

Haha. Start saving up!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on July 15, 2013, 11:50:27 AM
For all the talk about the stupid kit design for Southampton this year.... I quite like their training kits. The red with that black block at the top? I think it looks sharp.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on July 18, 2013, 10:32:38 AM
Has anyone seen a game at Petco in San Diego?  My wife and I will be out that way for a couple of days and thought it would be cool seeing another park.  If you've been there, do you recommend sitting in a particular section/area?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on July 19, 2013, 02:17:22 PM
Hey ZK:

http://www.psg.fr/en/News/003001/Article/62895/Marquinhos-signs-5-year-deal-with-Paris-Saint-Germain

It's not the same guy from FM2008 (I think...is it? That would mean he was 14 when you start that game), but I think you should become a PSG fan anyway.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on July 19, 2013, 02:37:25 PM
I would imagine that IS the same guy.  Another reason FM is so awesome.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on August 19, 2013, 02:37:56 PM
Did anyone see the highlights of the Barcelona match yesterday? with 6 goals scored in the first half alone? I can't recall seeing a team like that toying with the opposite team like Barca did yesterday in a loooooong time.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kenneth Toilethole on August 31, 2013, 02:24:26 PM
Dayton Dragons game tonight with the Red's 1st pick last year starting, the Tigers vs Indians game tomorrow and the Traverse City NHL prospects tournament on Thursday. The best live sporting event week for me since I went to the Sun Bowl a few years ago. Can't wait!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on September 05, 2013, 04:32:11 PM
With Fox Soccer Channel pretty much gone, can anyone point me to what used to be Fox Soccer's nightly 10 pm news and highlights show? Or is there another show like it somewhere that I don't know about?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on September 05, 2013, 04:43:57 PM
With Fox Soccer Channel pretty much gone, can anyone point me to what used to be Fox Soccer's nightly 10 pm news and highlights show? Or is there another show like it somewhere that I don't know about?
It seems like FXX took over the channel that used to be the home of FSC. I can't find anything online that lets me know if FSC has been moved to a different channel. BOOOO. I'm happy to have FXX (I NEED TO SEE THE LEAGUE!!!), but I didn't realize that FSC would go away. Does this mess with/eliminate the broadcasting of non-BPL stuff like Champions League matches, La Liga, etc? Also, what's the point of paying for a sports package now that FSC is gone!?!?!?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on September 05, 2013, 04:48:59 PM
There's a new channel called "Fox Sports One" which is essentially an ESPN competitor. They are not located in the same place as FSC, though...I found them in my cable guide in an entirely different location. They might be showing the old news and highlights show that you're looking for.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on September 05, 2013, 05:04:42 PM
There's a new channel called "Fox Sports One" which is essentially an ESPN competitor. They are not located in the same place as FSC, though...I found them in my cable guide in an entirely different location. They might be showing the old news and highlights show that you're looking for.
No, I found that channel. It's channel 219 if you have DirecTV. I have found is laughably poor so far. Basically seems a UFC channel as that appears to be showing a LOT of the time. I looked for a daily 10 pm soccer highlight show, and it's definitelu not on that channel.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on September 06, 2013, 07:21:46 AM
I believe Fox Sports 1 is showing Fox Soccer News daily at 4 PM.  So you could DVR it.  Or beg your cable provider for beIN Sport, as they have a lot of soccer now as well (including tonight's WC Qualifier USA @ Costa Rica).
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on September 06, 2013, 09:46:09 AM
If you want to talk about laughably poor...let's talk about BeIn Sport. Good god. I watched the Jamaica-USA World Cup Qualifier on that channel and I felt insulted.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: jcarwash31 on September 06, 2013, 10:49:33 AM
I haven't watched much of Fox Sports 1 yet beyond some of Fox Sports Live. I want a highlight show that shows highlights, so I was actually pretty happy with it until they went to another part of the studio with Charissa Thompson and 6 former athletes sitting in easy chairs talking about various topics. All I could think was, "You're doing it wrong. No matter how hot Charissa Thompson is, you're doing it wrong." That's the exact kind of crap that took over SportsCenter. If you want to compete with SportsCenter, do what they did when SportsCenter was still watchable.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: lutz on September 10, 2013, 01:15:06 PM
Is the US Open always that empty, or was it because of the weather? Kind of shocked at the number of empty seats for the big matches, let alone the earlier ones; Wimbledon sells out every day. Good to know that if I ever manage to visit (one day, one day...) that it'll be easy to get tickets for some world class tennis, though.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on September 10, 2013, 01:54:59 PM
I don't think it's usually empty. I mean, the one time I tried to go I did indeed get tickets without a problem, but generally speaking it's pretty popular.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on September 10, 2013, 02:00:00 PM
Wow. I knew that SPEED channel was gone now and that racing could be found on the new Fox Sports One channel. But, I didn't realize it would also absorb the FSC programming.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: trixi on September 10, 2013, 11:01:53 PM
There's so many matches happening at the same time, people may be at some of the smaller courts where they can get closer to the action vs staying in the bigger courts. If I get bored with a match here because it's a blow out of sorts, I'll just go somewhere else to find a better match. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on September 22, 2013, 11:52:02 PM
One of the best sports weekends for me in a long time: Bengals beat the Packers in a wild, wild game; Reds take 2 out of 3 in Pittsburgh; St.X wins its game on Friday against a very tough team (Indy Cathedral). Only dower is that my Belgian football league club (Lokeren) loses a tough game 2-1 away at Standard (which remains unbeaten and the table leader). Lokeren still 4th in the standings, though, so I'm not too unhappy.

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on September 23, 2013, 11:22:33 AM
One of the best sports weekends for me in a long time: Bengals beat the Packers in a wild, wild game; Reds take 2 out of 3 in Pittsburgh; St.X wins its game on Friday against a very tough team (Indy Cathedral). Only dower is that my Belgian football league club (Lokeren) loses a tough game 2-1 away at Standard (which remains unbeaten and the table leader). Lokeren still 4th in the standings, though, so I'm not too unhappy.



Hey hey, me too!!

SFC won.
Indians swept 4-0.
Browns won.

It was a banner weekend.... my softball team lost, but I wasn't even there, so I guess I can't complain too much about that.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on September 23, 2013, 11:37:27 AM
Me too - SFC won

Manure lost.
DiCanio got fired.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on October 24, 2013, 09:35:01 AM
Ibrahimovic cannon goal vs Anderlecht

(http://i.imgur.com/im1NpZg.gif)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on October 24, 2013, 08:42:10 PM
It's really weird to say, and I never would have predicted it but Gary Neville is actually my favorite analyst in any sport.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on October 31, 2013, 01:10:02 PM
Kind of a cool story:

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/sportingscene/2013/10/why-i-quit-major-league-baseball.html?mobify=0
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on October 31, 2013, 01:29:27 PM
Kind of a cool story:

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/sportingscene/2013/10/why-i-quit-major-league-baseball.html?mobify=0

Kinda? I'd say definitely. And what a romantic reason.

He says he was taking classes at NYU. Do you think he still is? Does that mean he's in NYC? Do you think he wants to join my softball team and "enjoy" the game again? We've got a spot for him.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on October 31, 2013, 02:20:39 PM
Cardenas is also a seriously good piano player.  Probably not symphony level good, but better than even a lot of the "professional" piano players you see at weddings or at Nordstrum or whatever.

I like guys like that.  Fernando Pena is another one.  If Pena wanted to devote himself full-time to writing/poetry he would have no problem getting published anywhere and probably be winning a lot of awards.  He's that good.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on November 23, 2013, 05:53:43 PM
Who thought we'd see Duke have a 9 game winning season - with the potential for a 10th? I'm so happy for David Cutcliffe.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: va-vacious on November 24, 2013, 06:14:29 PM
I know! And who would have thought Vanderbilt would beat Tennessee two years in a row, either.

I hope TN has a winning season sometime soon.  Last night's game was messy, but fun until the last 18 seconds. and freakin' cold!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on November 25, 2013, 11:31:13 AM
Facundo "Chucky" Ferreyra is my new favorite footballer.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on November 27, 2013, 08:43:04 AM
Jose Mourinho must certainly be the most unpleasant person living in Great Britain right now.  Well, outside of that guy from Lostprophets, but I have a feeling he won't be living much longer.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on December 01, 2013, 11:29:06 AM
The last three minutes of the Auburn/Alabama game was likely the most exciting and memorable end to a game I've ever seen.  For those who missed it, Auburn blocks a field goal and recovers the ball.  They march down the field scoring a game tying TD with 30 some second left.  Alabama gets the ball back and with time expiring, ran the back into Auburn territory.  The play was reviewed and Alabama was awarded a second on the clock.  For some of reason, Nick Saban elects to go for a long shot field goal kicked by a red shirt freshman.  Ball goes wide and is caught by an Auburn player who runs it back 109 yards for the game winning TD.  Fans storm the field, Saban wishes for a do over. 

I really enjoy the athleticism of sports and all the minutia of play calling, but at the end of the day, it was a moment like that in which stats, names, teams, or plays fade away and I'm reminded that magic still happens.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: dirk on December 01, 2013, 03:28:32 PM
I don't follow college athletics, but that was an incredible end to the game.  I don't understand why everyone is so down on Saban's choice to try the field goal. He had a chance to win the game and he took it. The chances of it missing were fairly high, but the chances of it being returned for a touchdown were almost nil. If the field goal was good, no one would be talking about what a crazy move it was. But because of the one in a thousand play of it being run all the way back, everything is talking about how it was a bad choice.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on December 01, 2013, 04:37:49 PM
I agree, dirk. I don't blame Saban for trying at all - the likelihood of a return is so small that I would never have thought it would happen.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on December 01, 2013, 11:36:54 PM
I was in the ol' country last week (Belgium) and had a chance to see my team Lokeren at home against vested power Club Brugge. Lokeren, a decidedly small-market team, has been on an amazing roll the last couple of years, winning the Cup last year and placing for the play-offs (the top 6 teams) several years in a row, and are again in the top 6 this year. Alas, while Lokeren dominated, Club Brugge was deadly in the counter-attack and ended up winning 0-3. Regardless, I really enjoyed it. It's one of the few things I miss about living in America. Would love to go to more of Lokeren's games.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on December 17, 2013, 11:33:48 AM
I just handed my most bitter fantasy opponent a brutal loss.

To give you some idea how incredible her week was and how terrible mine (mostly) was, she was leading by 21 points going into Monday despite the fact that I own Jamaal Charles.

All I had left was Justin Tucker.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on December 17, 2013, 01:00:53 PM
I enjoy that you have a "bitter fantasy opponent."
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on December 17, 2013, 01:10:50 PM
My FF season has come to an end, stranding in the final 8 (out of 32 teams on our league). With a bit more luck in how the draw played out this weekend (I had the 3rd highest point total of the 8 remaining teams, but happened to be against the 2nd highest score total), I might've survived another week. Oh well. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on December 17, 2013, 01:15:54 PM
I just handed my most bitter fantasy opponent a brutal loss.

To give you some idea how incredible her week was and how terrible mine (mostly) was, she was leading by 21 points going into Monday despite the fact that I own Jamaal Charles.

All I had left was Justin Tucker.

Nice!  I love those.  Not so much when I'm on the other end, but still....

I had a rough year in my money league.  I have the 3rd best point total among 12 teams, but have lost by 1 point twice, then another week was when someone got Nick Foles off the waiver wire and he threw 7 touchdowns.  I finished 3-11. 

In this league, though, they have playoffs for the 1-4 teams, then 5-8, and 9-12.  I just won my 10 v. 11 game (I was #11) and get to play #9 overall for a small cut of money.  But the #10 guy I beat, that was my 3rd win over him this year... considering I only have 4 total wins, that had to piss him off a bit.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Homsar on December 17, 2013, 01:19:02 PM
I got into a championship game this year for the first time, and my illustrious opponent happens to be the Great Fourthisto.
I do happen to have Jamaal Charles (that was awesome), and if he delivers one more week, I might be enjoying the spoils of victory.
Victory...................
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on December 20, 2013, 09:16:29 PM
I have Christmas gifts for fans of every team.  Don't open them until sumer 2015, though.

Carolina Railhawks-- The Carolina Railhawks have received 20 year old Cameroonian wonderkid Fabrice Olinga (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabrice_Olinga) on a free transfer from Southampton.  Extremely fleet of foot, but raw of skill this young striker was broken in to the Saints first team in the 2014-15 season where he quickly became one of the hottest young prospects in the world.  Man City, PSG, and OM were extremely interested in this player until he was bizarrely free transferred to the NASL where he can be expected to average at least two goals a game. Definitely get down to SAS stadium and enjoy him while you can, because he's not going to be there long.  But at a conservatively valued 15 million (and rising fast) his sale should finance the Railhawks for years to come.

Liverpool-- A vastly overpaid, still asshole-ish, declining Luis Suarez has surprisingly "agreed" to terminate his contract at no expense.  On the very same day, Argentinian international Mauro Icardi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauro_Icardi) agrees to a free transfer.  Icardi was enjoyed a prolific Premier League camapaign last year with 17 goals in 24 Premier League starts, finishing second in goals behind his National and club team strike partner Fecundo "Chucky" Ferrayra.  He could easily have finished first had I opted to use him as the advanced forward.  Given a more traditional set-up and not having to split time with three other strikers, he should lead the league in scoring easily if used correctly and return Liverpool to the Champion's League after a disappointing 6th place finish.

Tottenham--  I terminated AVB.  Tottenham done okay in the Premier League, but really they are the second most talented team and so they should be finishing higher than 5th.  That's all you get.  Sorry.  Can't really help out a rival too much.  At least you won't have to watch him screw up your team for another two years in real life.

Belgium-- You have just appointed the World's Greatest Manager as your manager.  The fans are not happy, as for some unknown reason they don't rate Champ.  But don't worry.  He's definitely going to win Euro 2016 with that team.  And he has scheduled two friendlies against the Columbus Blue Jackets and DC United.  Even better, Southampton has also arranged friendlies in DC and will be bringing hot young prospect Roland Verschueren with them.  So you'll get to see the future star of the Belgian team as well as the current team.

Gillingham-- You receive a much-improved Paolo Gazzaniga.  Unfortunately Gazzaniga did not see much playing time with Saints.  However, after some serious mentoring by Kelvin Davis and Artur Boruc as well as two years studying under the greatest GK coaches in the world at the greatest training facility in the world he has still improved a lot.  He should have no problem dominating League One and if given a regular starts should eventually reach his full potential of average-ish Premier League keeper.  And to help you on your quest, you have also received on free transfers Jordan Turnbull and Jack Stephens giving you the core of Saints reserve team.  Both players played in Championship last year and held their own, and they too should become average Premier League keepers.  But that's not all.  You also have received no less than ten of Southampton's B-rated U18 prospects.  Which may not sound all the great until you realize my setup makes Camp Nou look like shite.  All ten of those players, if properly developed are Premier League quality.

New York Red Bulls-- You have hired newly retired England international Rickie Lambert as your new coach!  And he's bringing with him Southampton captain and fellow England international Adam Lallana to play trequartista.  You will need those him because your team sucks.  Lallana makes $70k a week which is kinda high but I think NY can handle it.  It's actually dirt cheap for the talent, because Lallana is still on the same long-term contract he signed in 2013.  The ONLY Southampton player who has never asked me for an improved contract, I am sad to see him go but NY needs the help.

Aston Villa-- Needing to win by at least two goals on the last day of the season, for some strange reason who should turn up in the lockerroom but Southampton's Victor Wanyama, Gaston Gil-Romero, Gaston Ramirez, Matija Nastasic, Luke Shaw and James Ward-Prowse.  Suddenly armed with half of the Premier League Starting XI of the year playing under assumed names, you thrash Chelsea away 5-0 and stay up.  And it knocks Chelsea back into third place.  The next day, they disappear as mysteriously as they came.  Is it a little suspicious that all seven players are missing from the Saints game the next day?  Nope, not really.  Having easily secured the title several weeks ago, Champ simply elected to bring in some youngsters.  That's what you get Jose Mourinho for talking trash about Saints constantly.

Hannover 96-- Southampton buy an unsettled Lars Bender from Leverkusen for 32 million pounds.  The next day, he is loaned out to Hannover 96 for the season at no charge, with Saints paying 100% of his wages.  I hope you like Lars Bender because seriously, that one cost me a half my transfer budget.  The Saints fans are REALLY pissed about it.

Southampton-  You won the Capital Cup and Premier League in 2014-15.  This year you destroyed the Premier League with 91 points, the most goals scored and the least goals given up.  You also won the FA Cup and Champion's League.  The average team age is 21.  You are the third richest club in the world.  Also, you probably have 4-5 of the top 20 U18's in the world, headlined by Tivadar Farkas who becomes Saints youngest ever goal scorer at 15 years, 170 days.  And he's a centreback!

England-- Coach Champ has taken a ton of crap for not ever signing English players, which is stupid.  The current national team features Lallana, Clyne, JWP, and Shaw as well as ex-Saint Jay Rodriguez.  Ex-Saint Callum Chambers plays for the U21.  There are five Saints in the U19 team, including captain Lewis Williams.  Why should Champ *buy* English players when all the best English players are already being produced at his own academy?  The future is bright for England.  Too bad they will lose to Belgium as long as Champ is their coach.

Posh-- You are the lucky team to be selected as Southampton's feeder club.  You can expect a steady diet of 3 or 4 stud prospects arriving each year, until you get promoted to the Premier League which will inevitably happen as it does to all my feeder clubs because the guys I loan out are just that awesome.  For 2015-16, you will be receiving Southampton's crown jewel in Everton, a Brazilian defensive midfielder who trained at Southampton Academy thanks to their partnership/ownership of Brazilian side Parana.  Just be reasonable with the workload, he kinda gets hurt a lot.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on December 23, 2013, 09:20:43 AM
This is a contender for "post of the year."

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on December 26, 2013, 12:23:33 AM
I just found out I won my football fantasy league with a win even more ridiculous than the last one.  I mean, at least last time I could point out that Jamaal Charles had a sillyawesome week.  It was silly that I won because of Justin Tucker, but it would have just been crazy if I lost after Charles scored 50+ points.

This week I just had kind of a boring bad week, and my opponent had a boring good week with no remarkable performances either way going into Monday.  I was 21 points down and I went home for the Holidays and I was busy and didn't even bother checking into the game as 1)  I forgot and 2) I assumed it was over.

It turns out Vernon Davis somehow got blanked, and I got 22 points from SF defense and Phil Dawson and won by one.  Got back to an email full of hatemail, which I deserve because I'd been whining about kickers and tight ends all year and how their scores are totally random. 

edit:  I just looked at the box score of that game.  I realized I actually won by 1.5 points so I was like, well at least my opponent didn't lose in the last 1:11 on that PAT.  Then I saw that the PAT came after a defensive score.  So she DID lose in the last 1:11, only on a even more stupid 89 yard INT return for a TD.  This is why I hate H2H formats, but now I can't even complain about it.  I started off the year 2-6 and then won 8 games in a row and nothing changed at all.  I averaged 2 more points more during the win streak and my opponents scored .5 less.

edit:  Wait.  I guess SF intercepted the ball on the last play of the game, which is two points in my league.  If so, I won with 0:00 left on the clock.  I would be so, SO pissed if that happened to me.  The person I beat works in the cube right next to me. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on December 30, 2013, 11:09:48 PM
The person I beat works in the cube right next to me.
I think you should ask her out for a date. Maybe even marry her. Then things will be alright in the universe  ;)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on December 31, 2013, 04:29:50 AM
I finally made it to Villa Park!  I got to see them score a goal, play like I did when I was in the 3rd grade, and hold to a draw.  Add to that, seeing a guy laying on the road with a stab wound courtesy of a Swansea fan and I'd call it a rather memorable experience!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on December 31, 2013, 10:19:31 AM
I finally made it to Villa Park!  I got to see them score a goal, play like I did when I was in the 3rd grade, and hold to a draw.  Add to that, seeing a guy laying on the road with a stab wound courtesy of a Swansea fan and I'd call it a rather memorable experience!
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY (sorry that dude got stabbed).
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on December 31, 2013, 10:00:10 PM
I have Christmas gifts for fans of every team.  Don't open them until sumer 2015, though.

Carolina Railhawks-- The Carolina Railhawks have received 20 year old Cameroonian wonderkid Fabrice Olinga (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabrice_Olinga) on a free transfer from Southampton.  Extremely fleet of foot, but raw of skill this young striker was broken in to the Saints first team in the 2014-15 season where he quickly became one of the hottest young prospects in the world.  Man City, PSG, and OM were extremely interested in this player until he was bizarrely free transferred to the NASL where he can be expected to average at least two goals a game. Definitely get down to SAS stadium and enjoy him while you can, because he's not going to be there long.  But at a conservatively valued 15 million (and rising fast) his sale should finance the Railhawks for years to come.
Finally starting on my thank yous for my Christmas gifts - so thank you for thinking of us first! :D
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on January 03, 2014, 04:10:54 PM
Ohio State vs. Clemson tonight.

Pray for the Butter-C-Fan marriage everyone.  This is its strongest test yet.  And I'm only about 65% joking.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on January 03, 2014, 04:20:46 PM
What's the best outcome for you guys?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on January 03, 2014, 04:28:09 PM
Honestly, Clemson blowout.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 03, 2014, 04:50:09 PM
I find the idea of Pele walking into a Subway wearing his old Brazil #10 jersey and ordering a foot long sub deeply depressing. 

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on January 06, 2014, 11:08:40 AM
There pretty much is no way Dennis Rodman won't end up in a North Korean labor camp.  Well, unless he's executed.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on January 06, 2014, 11:19:17 AM
Crisis averted, everyone.  Clemson won.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: clemsonfan on January 06, 2014, 03:56:02 PM
Ohio State vs. Clemson tonight.

Pray for the Butter-C-Fan marriage everyone.  This is its strongest test yet.  And I'm only about 65% joking.

Let's not overreact here. Yes, it was a bit "testy" at our house friday night, but we could have weathered the storm if Ohio State won.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on January 06, 2014, 04:56:35 PM
Ohio State vs. Clemson tonight.

Pray for the Butter-C-Fan marriage everyone.  This is its strongest test yet.  And I'm only about 65% joking.

Let's not overreact here. Yes, it was a bit "testy" at our house friday night, but we could have weathered the storm if Ohio State won.
Hah. Easily said knowing the outcome.

:P
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on January 08, 2014, 02:54:13 PM
Voters dig the long ball!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on January 09, 2014, 01:03:33 PM
It's funny how seeing a word can immediately transport me back to the salad days.  I received an order for a bunch of plays by a faculty member who's last name is Skiles and thought of that quirky, red-headed kid I went to high school with.  I used to spend most of my lunchtime in the gym with other kids who were losers and couldn't/wouldn't play on the real basketball team shooting hoops.  That kid was such a fan of then Pacer/Magic Scotty Skiles, that he'd call out "Scotty Skiles" every time he took a shot.  I guess Skiles was his favorite player which was weird because that was the era of Jordan, Magic, Thomas, Bird, Barkley, Malone, etc, so there were much more interesting players to obsess over.  Of course, this being said by the guy who wore a Ron Harper t-shirt for years and still counts Chris Mullin as one of his favorite players of that era.

Now, I can't tell you the last time I thought of Scotty Skiles (apparently, he was coaching the Bucks?  I don't follow the NBA at all), but for a moment, I could recollect the smell of that gym, those giant chocolate chip cookies that would be my lunch and that I thought those ugly-ass Cons shoes were the shit.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on January 15, 2014, 06:03:04 PM
My Belgian football team (Lokeren) is having another great year so far. They just qualified for the semi-finals of the Belgian Cup, with an (in theory) do-able opponent, meaning the way toward another Belgian Cup Final is clear. Now they just need to do it.

If they reach the Belgian Cup Final, I am mighty certain that I will go this time. Lokeren reached the Cup Final two years ago, and WON. I still haven't forgiven myself for not being there for that.

This is what I want to experience: <knock on wood>

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Vf0AId0iTjI/T27Mp8Ke4tI/AAAAAAAAInk/fBCqeeYD7uI/s1600/Lokeren250312.jpg)

(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/59423000/jpg/_59423915_lokeren_2012_cut.jpg)

(http://www.voetbalnieuws.be/uploads/fans(sporting-lokeren)(1).jpg)

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on January 16, 2014, 02:38:32 PM
Watching Cup Finals in person. There's nothing like it. Good luck to your lot Euro
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on January 31, 2014, 12:31:54 PM
My Belgian football team (Lokeren) is having another great year so far. They just qualified for the semi-finals of the Belgian Cup, with an (in theory) do-able opponent, meaning the way toward another Belgian Cup Final is clear. Now they just need to do it.
Lokeren played at home to a mere 1-1 tie in the home-and-away semi-finals. What a huge disappointment, realizing that Lokeren is currently 5th in the Belgian premier league standings and their opponent only 12th. The return (away) match is next Wednesday evening. They have got to find a way somehow. C'mon Lokeren, don't go breaking my heart now!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on February 05, 2014, 06:31:58 PM
Watching Cup Finals in person. There's nothing like it. Good luck to your lot Euro
In an absolute nail-biter tonight, after extra time and then a penalty shoot-out, Lokeren prevails 9-8 in the penalty shoot out, woohoo! Second Cup final in three years.

You can bet your last dollar I will be there this time around. Saturday, March 22 at King Baudouin Stadium in Brussels.

By the way, Lokeren's opponent is Zulte Waregem, the other small market team that has been doing well in recent years. Zulte's big star is Thorgan Hazard, younger brother of Chelsea's Eden Hazard. Thorgan is also property of Chelsea but rented out while he is getting some much needed seasoning. Even though he's only 20 years old, he just won Belgium's "Golden Shoe", recognizing him as the best player in Belgium in 2013. Mourinho is on record for saying he wants Thorgan to be playing alongside Eden. Which of course means nothing until it actually happens.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on February 05, 2014, 07:38:31 PM
Yeah, too bad Thorgan didn't go to Anderlecht on loan.  That whole thing was nuts, but it tells you how good he is.  Who ever heard of a club loaning a player they themselves only have on loan? 

I don't know about his prospects at Chelsea.  Obviously Mourinho likes Eden, but he's also pretty particular about which guys he likes and which he doesn't.  I don't think he is done selling awesome players for different awesome players who are no better, but he likes more.

Supposedly Mourinho and Mauricio Pochettino from Southampton are buds, and Chelsea still has way too many good young players and/or too many Belgians. So I'm hoping that maybe Mourinho will hook us up with Lukaku, Hazard, or Kompany.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on February 05, 2014, 11:18:14 PM
Supposedly Mourinho and Mauricio Pochettino from Southampton are buds, and Chelsea still has way too many good young players and/or too many Belgians. So I'm hoping that maybe Mourinho will hook us up with Lukaku, Hazard, or Kompany.
you mean Thorgan Hazard?

Lukaku is an interesting case... very talented obviously. And greatly appreciated in the Red Devils squad. But can he make it at a true Premiership top club?

As for Kompany, fugget 'bout it... He's going nowhere.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on February 05, 2014, 11:27:31 PM
Yeah, too bad Thorgan didn't go to Anderlecht on loan.  That whole thing was nuts, but it tells you how good he is.  Who ever heard of a club loaning a player they themselves only have on loan? 
why do you say "too bad"?

Besides that, Thorgan was never going to Anderlecht. Zulte Waregem has him under contract (on loan) until the end of the season, and they were never going to agree to ship him off to Anderlecht for the rest of the season. (Unless someone--Anderlecht or Chelsea-- was going to give Zulte truly crazy money, but that never came under serious discussion.)

Thorgan is essentially a free agent after this season. Yes, under contract to Chelsea, but he'll need at least another year (or two) of seasoning before teaming up for Chelsea (if he ever does), and so he'll be loaned out to the biggest bidder. Anderlecht surely will be one of them.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Homsar on February 07, 2014, 09:45:03 AM
The University of Cincinnati men's basketball team has been on a roll ever since they lost to Xavier.  Last night I went to their game against UConn and they came back from being 10 down at one point to win by 5. I think that makes 15 in a row now.  It all comes from their defense of course.  In their last 12 games they haven't scored more than 80 in any of them, but they've kept opponents to about 57 per game.  They've beaten 3 ranked teams so far, and those same 3 teams are the currently-ranked teams they have yet to play before the end of the season.  I hope they can make a run in the tournament this year, as they've pretty much secured a spot already.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on February 07, 2014, 11:42:36 AM
I still can't wrap my brain around what has happened to Michael Schumacher.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: cuddlyevil on February 07, 2014, 11:51:16 AM
I still can't wrap my brain around what has happened to Michael Schumacher.

I know. They're reporting on the BBC that he is responding to instructions and blinking on command, so maybe he's going to come out of it? I know he won't be the same, but if he can get back to close to full function that will be something.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on February 07, 2014, 06:40:36 PM
The University of Cincinnati men's basketball team has been on a roll ever since they lost to Xavier.  Last night I went to their game against UConn and they came back from being 10 down at one point to win by 5. I think that makes 15 in a row now.  It all comes from their defense of course.  In their last 12 games they haven't scored more than 80 in any of them, but they've kept opponents to about 57 per game.  They've beaten 3 ranked teams so far, and those same 3 teams are the currently-ranked teams they have yet to play before the end of the season.  I hope they can make a run in the tournament this year, as they've pretty much secured a spot already.

Love it.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on March 07, 2014, 11:11:21 AM
I would like to play fantasy baseball this year, but the length of the season and number of games doesn't seem to lend itself to keeping my interest for very long.  I've enjoyed fantasy EPL, because even though the season goes on forever, I only need to tweak the line-up once a week or so.  Are there MLB leagues out there that don't require day to day participation and, if so, would anyone like to start up a league?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Homsar on March 07, 2014, 01:34:03 PM
The University of Cincinnati men's basketball team has been on a roll ever since they lost to Xavier.  Last night I went to their game against UConn and they came back from being 10 down at one point to win by 5. I think that makes 15 in a row now.  It all comes from their defense of course.  In their last 12 games they haven't scored more than 80 in any of them, but they've kept opponents to about 57 per game.  They've beaten 3 ranked teams so far, and those same 3 teams are the currently-ranked teams they have yet to play before the end of the season.  I hope they can make a run in the tournament this year, as they've pretty much secured a spot already.

Love it.

So I was at the third of my three UC home games last night.  The second was the last-shot loss to Louisville.  Last night they took an early 18-4 lead early on against Memphis, but eventually let them come back.  However, Memphis never took the lead, and UC managed to pull away and win by 13, scoring an "I-can't-remember-the-last-time-UC-scored-this-many-points" 97.  Unfortunately, UC still seems to have their problems of occasional mental lapses, which can lead to bunches or points given up.  I think they'll make it to the second weekend of the tournament. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on March 07, 2014, 04:39:20 PM
Two weeks away from the Belgian Cup Final. The game (at King Baudouin stadium in Brussels, 50,000 seats) is sold out. So excited that I'll be there!

My team (Lokeren) was designated the "home" team. I wonder whether they'll be wearing their traditional unis, or the more modern 'black' unis. I personally like the classic "tri-colors" better. what do you think:

classic (white-black-yellow) unis:

(http://www.gva.be/ahimgpath/assets_img_gva/2012/10/29/2406771/club-brugge-lijdt-2-3-nederlaag-tegen-lokeren-id3615184-1000x800-n.jpg)

'modern' black unis:

(http://iloapp.soccershirtcollection.be/blog/blog?ShowFile&image=1392562371.jpg)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on March 07, 2014, 05:48:56 PM
Yeah, I like the classic look better.

It's understandable how they came to the "modern" look, though.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on March 07, 2014, 05:51:09 PM
The thing that bothers me most about the black unis is that it looks like there are 10 or 11 refs running around on the field. Only refs should wear all-black.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: lutz on March 07, 2014, 06:09:14 PM
While I was out shopping this evening I saw, in the flesh, the legend that is... David Seaman.

Sadly he was not wearing comically large goalie gloves.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on March 07, 2014, 07:22:06 PM
Seaman. comically large

Because I am emotionally stunted.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: lutz on March 07, 2014, 07:32:51 PM
I'm sure there's a Navy joke to be had there somewhere.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on March 07, 2014, 09:33:03 PM
Does he still have a ponytail?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: lutz on March 08, 2014, 03:41:50 PM
Hah, no, he had quite a slick haircut. Although I'm not sure if the cool fading effect was actually due to grey hair rather than barber's skill.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on March 09, 2014, 11:18:58 PM
Anderlecht fired its manager today. I am BLOWN AWAY. Yes, they've had a terrible season (by Anderlecht standards), but (i) the guy won the Belgian championship last year, (ii) this year was billed from the beginning as a 'transition' year with nobody expecting a good year, and (iii) they do this with ONE game to go in the regular season, when they've already qualified for the 10 game play-offs (and 3rd in the standing behind Standard and Club Brugge). What do they expect is going to change at this point? NOTHING is going to change, that's what. Wow, just wow.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: daytime drinking on March 10, 2014, 10:13:53 AM
The University of Cincinnati men's basketball team has been on a roll ever since they lost to Xavier.  Last night I went to their game against UConn and they came back from being 10 down at one point to win by 5. I think that makes 15 in a row now.  It all comes from their defense of course.  In their last 12 games they haven't scored more than 80 in any of them, but they've kept opponents to about 57 per game.  They've beaten 3 ranked teams so far, and those same 3 teams are the currently-ranked teams they have yet to play before the end of the season.  I hope they can make a run in the tournament this year, as they've pretty much secured a spot already.

i remember starting bearcat season threads over on woxy in mick's early days and people either didn't care or laughed.  the city of cincinnati has fair weather fans
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Homsar on March 10, 2014, 01:07:36 PM
They are everywhere.  I'm sure even you have some.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: daytime drinking on March 10, 2014, 05:45:48 PM
They are everywhere.  I'm sure even you have some.

i have what?  fairweather fans?  anybody that's met me is a bonafide groupie, ya dig?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on March 11, 2014, 12:20:14 AM
Brutal loss for William and Mary tonight in CAA final.  Delaware had a brute of a center who outweighed the Tribe center by a good 40 or 50 pounds.  The refs swallowed their whistles because it was a championship game which meant their center just threw Tribe players around like ragdolls all night. 

The game ended when the center brute threw his shoulder into a William and Mary player and scored with 10 seconds left.  It was a charge but there was no chance they would call it. 

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: jcarwash31 on March 12, 2014, 10:25:38 AM
I would like to play fantasy baseball this year, but the length of the season and number of games doesn't seem to lend itself to keeping my interest for very long.  I've enjoyed fantasy EPL, because even though the season goes on forever, I only need to tweak the line-up once a week or so.  Are there MLB leagues out there that don't require day to day participation and, if so, would anyone like to start up a league?
I would guess that most leagues are weekly, although daily leagues do exist. You set your lineup for the week and you have to consider the number of games a player has that week, if a pitcher will get 2 starts, matchups for the entire week, etc. Then you can spend as much time as you want during the week checking on free agents.

The season starts next weekend with the Dodgers and D-Backs playing in Australia.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on March 12, 2014, 11:12:16 PM
American University (of which I am a proud grad, as is my daughter) qualified tonite to the NCAA tournament. I'm so excited! AU is a small, "brainy" school in DC in the shadow of Georgetown. Last time AU made the NCAA was in 2009, they were a 15 seed and ALMOST upset Villanova in a first round thriller. Whoever plays them, better watch out. They have a stifling defense. (In tonight's league championship game, they beat Boston U, which had scored 91 points in the 2 previous tournament games, but AU held them to just 36 points tonight.)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on March 17, 2014, 04:44:16 PM
I'm reading that former Red Didi Gregorious could be on the move yet again.  Every time I hear that name all I can think is:

Gregorius! This is protected by the red, the black, and the green, with the key!  Sissy!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on March 17, 2014, 10:47:08 PM
There has to be a minor league team he could join that has an ahnk symbol on its cap.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on March 18, 2014, 11:20:10 PM
Top 10 earners in football, in Euros, with salary, endorsements and total

1. Lionel Messi (Arg) Barcelona 15 26 41
2. Cristiano Ronaldo (Por) Real Madrid 17,5 22 39,5
3. Neymar (Bra) Barcelona 15 14 29
4. Wayne Rooney (Eng) Manchester United 19,4 4,6 24
5. Zlatan Ibrahimovic (Zwe) PSG 19,5 4 23,5
6. Radamel Falcao (Col) AS Monaco 14,2 7 21,2
7. Sergio AgŁero (Arg) Manchester City 13,2 6,5 19,7
8. Thiago Silva (Bra) PSG 15,5 1,5 17
9. Eden Hazard (Bel) 11,8 5 16,8
10. Franck Ribťry (Fra) Bayern MŁnchen 15 1,5 16,
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: lutz on March 19, 2014, 04:35:07 AM
Rooney is probably the most overrated, overpaid player in football. He doesn't belong anywhere near the top ten in the world.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on March 19, 2014, 10:54:38 AM
Let's face it: the vast majority of football players are way, way overpaid. But it's not their fault that so many clubs are voluntarily throwing so much crazy money at these players.

By the same, the very same thing can be said about American footballers and baseball players.

These athletes are worth whatever the market is willing to pay them. More power to them, I suppose.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on March 19, 2014, 12:00:39 PM
Agreed to all of the above. I think what lutz is saying, though, is that Rooney is way overpaid within the footballing market.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on March 19, 2014, 02:11:14 PM
Steve Cherundolo retired today.  I assume Hannover 96 will throw a huge testimonial for him, he certainly deserves it.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: lutz on March 20, 2014, 04:13:38 AM
Let's face it: the vast majority of football players are way, way overpaid. But it's not their fault that so many clubs are voluntarily throwing so much crazy money at these players.
I would argue that in Rooney's case, it is partially his fault. He threatens to leave the club every time he wants a pay rise.

But as Dan rightly said, my point was that Rooney is nowhere near talented or consistent enough to be in a list higher than the likes of Ibra or Falcao or Ribťry. He's not even close to the best player in the Premier League, let alone the world.

I would cut him some slack, but he's just such a whiny bitch to boot.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on March 20, 2014, 02:28:36 PM
Well, there goes my $1 billion dollar dream.  It would have been nice to at least make it past the first freaking game.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: cuddlyevil on March 20, 2014, 03:49:50 PM
I'm still in it! Thanks to my faith in my alma mater  8)

I doubt I will last too much longer though.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Rafe on March 20, 2014, 06:50:18 PM
Steve Cherundolo retired today.  I assume Hannover 96 will throw a huge testimonial for him, he certainly deserves it.

I know it sounds a bit twattish of me, but I was genuinely saddened if completely unsurprised at the news. Dolo is a great bloke and a superb servant of the club. He's already been given a coaching job with the young 'uns, so I think a fancy testimonial will only be a matter of time. I'll definitely attend that when it arises. a one club man is rare these days, and he certainly supplied me and my mates with quite a bit of joy over the years. at least, the times when his knee wasn't fucked and he didn't play for ages in each of his latter seasons  ;D

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on March 21, 2014, 08:27:19 AM
Well, there goes my $1 billion dollar dream.  It would have been nice to at least make it past the first freaking game.

That's what you get for picking against Dayton.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on March 21, 2014, 08:56:39 AM
Steve Cherundolo retired today.  I assume Hannover 96 will throw a huge testimonial for him, he certainly deserves it.

I know it sounds a bit twattish of me, but I was genuinely saddened if completely unsurprised at the news. Dolo is a great bloke and a superb servant of the club. He's already been given a coaching job with the young 'uns, so I think a fancy testimonial will only be a matter of time. I'll definitely attend that when it arises. a one club man is rare these days, and he certainly supplied me and my mates with quite a bit of joy over the years. at least, the times when his knee wasn't fucked and he didn't play for ages in each of his latter seasons  ;D



And probably the greatest right back the USA National Team has ever had. We will miss him.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on March 21, 2014, 10:16:10 AM
Sometimes (most times), it really sucks being a fan of Cincinnati sports teams. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Homsar on March 21, 2014, 01:14:03 PM
Yeah imagine my surprise when I realized I actually picked North Dakota State to beat Oklahoma.  Perfect braket!

Except that I also picked UC and OSU to win.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on March 26, 2014, 11:51:05 PM
My Belgian football team (Lokeren) is having another great year so far. They just qualified for the semi-finals of the Belgian Cup, with an (in theory) do-able opponent, meaning the way toward another Belgian Cup Final is clear. Now they just need to do it.

If they reach the Belgian Cup Final, I am mighty certain that I will go this time. Lokeren reached the Cup Final two years ago, and WON. I still haven't forgiven myself for not being there for that.

This is what I want to experience: <knock on wood>

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Vf0AId0iTjI/T27Mp8Ke4tI/AAAAAAAAInk/fBCqeeYD7uI/s1600/Lokeren250312.jpg)

(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/59423000/jpg/_59423915_lokeren_2012_cut.jpg)

(http://www.voetbalnieuws.be/uploads/fans(sporting-lokeren)(1).jpg)
The Belgian Cup Final was this past weekend, and YES, Lokeren won!!! Second Cup victory in 3 years, and YES, I was there.

One of the best sports moments of my life time.

It's not a fair comparison, but it would be as if the Bengals won the SuperBowl or the Reds won the World Series, on a Belgian scale. Given that I was at the Bengals SuperBowl loss in 1989 in Miami, I can truly appreciate Lokeren's sweet, sweet victory last Saturday in Brussels. I was so mad at myself for missing Lokeren's Cup victory 2 years ago, but all that has been rectified now.

The atmosphere before the game was great, with both teams having their own "party villages" each across the other side of the Atomium. It was even better in the stadium, electric all game, with non-stop chanting from both clubs. And when Lokeren scored in the 57th minute, I went absolutely delirious. Then it was a matter of counting down the minutes. They held on, 1-0, final score. Sweet sweet victory.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Homsar on March 27, 2014, 08:30:23 AM
Awesome dude.  Glad you could be there.  Tell them to mail some of that winning feeling to the Reds.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on March 27, 2014, 08:52:30 AM
Awesome dude.  Glad you could be there.  Tell them to mail some of that winning feeling to the Reds.

Apparently, GABP is going to have a Taste of Belgium stand this year, so they're trying.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: MissKitty on March 27, 2014, 10:55:38 AM
That's awesome, Euro! What a thrill to be there in person to see your team go all the way. :)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on March 27, 2014, 12:11:40 PM
Congratulations dude! I know not what this feels like, but I am sure it must be wonderful.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: lutz on March 28, 2014, 04:18:26 AM
That sounds immense, Euro!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on April 08, 2014, 05:20:20 PM
I love the interwebs.

http://metro.co.uk/2013/02/20/gallery-tales-of-demba-ba-2013-3506015/
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on April 10, 2014, 11:10:31 PM
After my humiliating all-time bad NL-only fantasy team of last year, I was determined to make a better showing this year.  I studied and prepared and walked out of the draft feeling like it was my best ever.

I'm in last place again.  My power core of David Wright, Matt Adams, Matt Holliday, and Justin Morneau have combined for a grand total of 0 home runs.  Yesterday my team went 20 for 40 with 1 HR, 2 triples, and 8 doubles.  That's a .500/.650/.875 slash line.  This produced a total of 1 RBI.  How do you OPS 1.525 over 46 plate appearances and get just 1 RBI? 

Also, I'm in last place in virtually every pitching category thanks to Homer Bailey.  And I already lost a closer thanks to Parnell needing TJS after one appearance.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on April 11, 2014, 07:43:59 AM
Homer Bailey sucks against the Cardinals, and that's been both of his starts this year.  He'll bounce back.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: jcarwash31 on April 11, 2014, 01:49:02 PM
We're not even 2 weeks into the season. I wouldn't panic yet. Starlin Castro leads my team with HRs with 2. Coco Crisp and Juan Lagares have both hit HRs, but I don't have any yet from Chris Davis, Allen Craig, or Billy Butler. I also have Homer Bailey and I'm pretty confident he'll get that ERA under 7.

Closers are overvalued in fantasy, just like in real life. I didn't even draft any closers. They were going for so much again this year in our auction draft. The last couple drafts I didn't even bother unless I could get a projected or potential closer for a few bucks. I would instead fill my RP spots with top set up guys or relief eligible starters.

I just took a look back... in 2012 I spent $9 to draft closers. Javy Guerra ($3) didn't end up with the job and Jim Johnson ($6) got me 51 saves. This year Johnson went for $14 and he's been taken out of the closer role.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on April 21, 2014, 03:24:37 PM
That Seabrook hit on Backe was definitely the stupidest hit of the Blackhawks/Blues series.  But it wasn't the dirtiest.

Not that I'm saying he shouldn't get three games, because he should.  But there have so many ompletely premeditated vicious slashes, takeout hits at the knees, cheap shots after whistles, etc. the entire two games.  Mostly by the Blackhawks, so it's not me being a homer.

It seems like unless you get them in the head, nothing happens.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on May 15, 2014, 04:35:29 PM
It is by definition impossible for Mike Trout to make an impossible catch, whether the request was prefaced by "Simon Says" or not.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on May 15, 2014, 11:23:02 PM
Conclusion of La Liga this Saturday, Barca-Atletico, at noon US time. Barca needs to win to be the champs, Atletico wins the title with a draw. What a game that will be! I'm pretty sure it'll be aired live on TV. I'll be watching.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on May 17, 2014, 11:33:07 PM
Conclusion of La Liga this Saturday, Barca-Atletico, at noon US time. Barca needs to win to be the champs, Atletico wins the title with a draw. What a game that will be! I'm pretty sure it'll be aired live on TV. I'll be watching.
Great match... Atletico seemed down for the counts after suffering 2 early injuries requiring subs, and then suffering a goal that was out of this world. But they came back strong, scoring the equalizer shortly into the 2nd half. To see Barca attack with desperation the last 25 min. was awesome. But in the end, Atletico held onto the draw. Worthy La Liga champs.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on May 18, 2014, 09:21:22 AM
Yeah, I've been pulling for the Matresses all season.   Good to see someone other than Barca or Real win.   

And as a bonus, Martino got fired which hopefully means Spuds or Valencia will go after him instead of poaching Southampton's manager.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on May 19, 2014, 10:28:55 AM
Good to see someone other than Barca or Real win.   

This!!

Totally pulling for the Atleti. And will be again in the Champions League. What a double they'll have pulled off if they can win that one.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on May 19, 2014, 02:31:04 PM
Atletico also won La Liga in my Football Manager game.  So if things continue to form, that means Saints will win the next eight Premier League titles.  Atletico will come in third, then drop down to fourth, then third, and then win the next five seasons in a row.

Also, Diego Simeone takes over as manager of Saints after 2016. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on May 19, 2014, 03:04:54 PM
It is eerie how accurate FM can be from time to time.

Who do Saints bring into the squad this offseason?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on May 19, 2014, 07:15:11 PM
Major transfers 2014/25 (all values in pounds)

Out:  Dejan Lovren -> Real Madrid 22.25m,  Pablo Osvaldo->Fiorentina 9.5 m

In:  FW Facundo "Chucky" Ferrerya (Shaktar) 16.75m, CB Santiago Vergini (Estudiantes LP) free, FW Matej Vydra (Udinese but on loan at West Brom) free, CB Vasco Regini (Empoli/Sampdoria) 2.6 m.

Vergini is slightly worse than Lovren, but Regini is slightly better than Fonte so it's a wash.  The team is deeper now though with three CB's instead of two.

Vydra has immense physical tools and is strong with both feet.  The game screws you over to keep it realistic though, by making all those players horrible finishers.  As a result, he never really contributes anything of significance for Saints.  He is a willing trier and good teammate so I'm able to play him enough to allow him to improve.  At the very end of the 2014-15 season he finally starts to put it together and scores 3 goals in the last 2 games.  At which point I sell him for 6.5 m.

Facundo Ferreyra scores 23 goals in 32 appearances, winning the Premier League scoring title.  He repeats the feat with another 23 goals in 31 appearances the next year. 

In January of 2015, I buy Jeronimo Rulli from Estudiante for 4.5m, who becomes the starting GK in 2015 and blossoms into the best GK in the world by far.  He was still at Saints at the end of the 2017-18 season and still the best in the world.  Atletico Madrid's Ahmed Vandenburg is closing in on him though, and might catch him by the end of 2018-19. 

I really didn't buy many youth players in 2014-15, and the few I did ended up not doing much.  The core of Shaw, JWP, Lallana, Schneiderlin, Ramirez meant I didn't need to splurge on the youth market, so my plan was to just get a couple of really good young players a year.  The young players I bought in 2013-14 ended up getting lots of playing time in 2015-16, so by the time Simeone took over Saints he had his first team already laid out for him.  As a result the class of 2014-15 kind of stagnated.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on May 21, 2014, 07:47:49 AM
Well, I suppose I'm hoping for Ferrerya and Rulli at the least. And a CB. It would be amazing and awfully far fetched to have the best GK in the world at Saints, though.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on May 26, 2014, 06:11:57 PM
Come on, Wendy. 

The kid didn't hit a HR and didn't get an RBI?!?  Then lean into one. 

The kid is sad because she knows her selfish lack of effort cost her team the W, and a waffle cone never tastes as good as victory.  Why are we celebrating losers?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: notoriouspbake on May 27, 2014, 08:44:30 PM
Come on, Wendy. 

The kid didn't hit a HR and didn't get an RBI?!?  Then lean into one. 

The kid is sad because she knows her selfish lack of effort cost her team the W, and a waffle cone never tastes as good as victory.  Why are we celebrating losers?

ha! took me a few moments to get.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: jcarwash31 on May 28, 2014, 02:36:50 PM
In honor of 50 Cent's spectacular first pitch, here are some first pitch gifs.

(http://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/assets/4517309/FiftyCentFirstPitchFail.gif)

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2851/9287528094_181a2156b1_o.gif)

Adam Corolla
(https://benchwarmerssportsblog.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/anigif_enhanced-buzz-3148-1368565868-0.gif?w=640)

John Wall
(https://benchwarmerssportsblog.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/anigif_enhanced-buzz-13063-1368563374-11.gif?w=640)

Mariah Carey
(https://benchwarmerssportsblog.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/anigif_enhanced-buzz-23933-1368561630-10.gif?w=640)

Cincinnati mayor Mark Mallory
(https://benchwarmerssportsblog.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/anigif_enhanced-buzz-31827-1368568646-1.gif?w=640)

And of course Carl Lewis
(https://benchwarmerssportsblog.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/anigif_enhanced-buzz-419-1368568173-0.gif?w=640)

They really know how to do it in South Korea.
(http://www.likecool.com/Gear/Pic/GIF%20Shin%20Sooji%20s%20first%20pitch/GIF-Shin-Sooji-s-first-pitch.gif)

(http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/001/017/385/FirstPitch1_original.gif?1376863810)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on May 28, 2014, 04:01:12 PM
 How do you play point guard in the NBA without knowing how to throw a baseball pass?   Because, you know... it's called "baseball" pass for a reason.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: jcarwash31 on May 29, 2014, 11:21:48 AM
How do you play point guard in the NBA without knowing how to throw a baseball pass?   Because, you know... it's called "baseball" pass for a reason.
There's one of Denard Robinson that I didn't post that was very similar, bounced it about half way. He was a quarterback.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on May 29, 2014, 11:23:52 AM
Most of those are just release point issues... holding the ball too long.  I can forgive that, especially if you're nervous.  Fiddy has no excuse.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on May 29, 2014, 11:13:33 PM
I was checking out some stuff on the upcoming Belgian club soccer season, and to my amazement read that the 14-15 competition starts on... July 27, yes only 2 weeks after the WC finishes. How can this be possible? wow.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on July 11, 2014, 12:59:00 PM
Welcome back, LeBron.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on July 15, 2014, 10:45:04 AM
One of the reps for a vendor I use is named "Prince Cleveland."  Am I to assume that he is the son and heir to the throne of King James?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on July 15, 2014, 11:07:21 AM
I'm not gonna lie... when I woke up on Saturday morning I felt the way that I imagine fans feel after their team has won a championship.

That's how lame my sports history is...I don't even know what it feels like, and when a player SIGNS with my team I assume that's the best it can get.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on July 29, 2014, 11:45:28 PM
So the Belgian Jupiler Pro League started (the equivalent of the British Premier League) started this past weekend, YES, only 2 weeks after the WC final...

My club, Lokeren, lost badly, 1-0, away to one of the teams that just promoted, ughh. And on top of that, their top scorer, who led the Jupiler Pro League last year in scoring with 22 goals, was sold today to a club in Qatar (for lots of money, obviously). And ZK, if you are wondering, Van Aken is still around... The asking price, which was 5 million Euros just a month or two ago, is now 8 million Euros. I think he'll be around for another season.

More surprisingly, the manager of Racing Genk, a perennial title contender, was fired, yes FIRED, after just one game into to new season, after an admittedly bad loss this past weekend. Wow, just wow. What has the world become to that a manager can be fired one week into the season? I just don't get it.

More excitedly, I am once again able to watch the Flemish TV station that brings the extended summaries of all the Jupiler Pro League games. For whatever reason, they didn't allow access to US viewers in the last couple of years, so frustrating. But all is good now.

As another complete aside, Lokeren has upgraded its stadium this off-season, so that it now can play its Europa League games at home. From the pictures I've seen, it looks beautiful. I'm hoping to go to Belgium in late August and catch a couple of games.... <fingers crossed>
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on August 07, 2014, 03:00:08 PM
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/crime/2014/08/07/local-man-charged-wpeeing-on-grave-of-former-cleveland-browns-owner/13714311/ (http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/crime/2014/08/07/local-man-charged-wpeeing-on-grave-of-former-cleveland-browns-owner/13714311/)

A local man was charged this week with peeing on the grave of former Cleveland Browns owner Art Modell.

A criminal summons was issued Wednesday against Paul S. Serbu, 61, of Meadowcrest Drive in Franklin, on one count of disorderly conduct in a cemetery, a misdemeanor, according to police in Baltimore County, Maryland.

The crime carries a maximum sentence of two years in jail and a $500 fine.

The charges come after Serbu allegedly posted an online video of the act last month as he wore a Cleveland Browns jersey.

Police describe him in a press release as a Browns fan.

Modell owned the team from 1961 until 1996, when he moved the team to Baltimore and renamed them the Ravens. He died in September 2012.

"Everyone who has buried a loved one has the right to believe that their final resting place will be treated with respect," said Baltimore County State Attorney Scott Shellenberger in the statement. "Bringing charges against this individual should act as a deterrent to others and assure the rest of us that no matter who you are, indecencies will not be committed against your final resting place."

A Baltimore County police spokesman said authorities are not sure if Serbu traveled to the area for the sole reason of peeing on the grave.

Since Serbu lives out of state, the process to bring him to court in Maryland will take several days, police added.

He could not be reached for comment.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on September 02, 2014, 12:25:03 PM
So I won my silly office fantasy football pool last year. 

It's all women, except for me because they couldn't find a last owner.  I didn't ask to play.  I actually have almost no interest in fantasy football because I'm tired after fantasy baseball season.  But I did it kind of as a favor to help them out.  They were not happy that the one male in the group won.

So this year, I was like "Hey, if you found someone else to play that's cool."  And they were all "No, you can't win and then quit!"  So fine, I'll play again.  But then they started tinkering with the rules because the person who had the best QB lost and didn't think that was right, and etc.  So now the rules are basically you get 10 zillion points for passing TD's, and 10 zillion bonus points for throwing over 300 yards, etc.  QB's are stupidly over-rated.  Kickers and defense are useless.  Why?  Because I won my last two playoff games on 1) the kicker and 2) Chiefs defense.

So then they did the Yahoo! autodraft thing.  But they decided that no one was allowed to customize their draft rankings due to some passive-aggressive idea of "oh we're not competing but we really are."  The draft rankings from Yahoo are of course all wrong because they don't account for the rule changes.  I pointed out that this was silly and basically whoever got lucky and drafts Payton Manning wins.  This suggestion was not taken kindly. 

So the autodraft was this weekend.  I got Payton Manning.  I also got Montee Ball, Julius Thomas, DeMaryius Thomas.  And Jamaal Charles.  It's ridiculous.  I am projected to beat my opponent in week 1 by 150 to 95.  Everyone is complaining about it. 



Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: lutz on September 02, 2014, 03:43:59 PM
Convince them to play proper Fantasy Football (http://fantasy.premierleague.com) next year  ;)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on September 02, 2014, 05:26:16 PM
I just got thrown out of that league.





Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on September 03, 2014, 07:30:34 AM
I just got thrown out of that league.

Are you ok with that?  I'd be beyond annoyed at all the hoops and short-sighted roadblocks.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poolio on September 03, 2014, 07:55:14 AM
I just got thrown out of that league.
How? Did you pee on someone's office chair? Or did you violate the league's substance abuse policy?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on September 03, 2014, 11:24:38 PM
I had a one o'clock work meeting yesterday. 

When I got back the other owners had had "a kickoff celebration" during lunch.  And they became "so excited about the league that we just couldn't wait" and unlocked the rosters.   Every available player was FA not waiver wire, so it was first-to-claim.  "It was so much fun!"

Of course, seeing as how I was uninformed of this and unable to get to a PC anyway, I was left with what was left in the pool after every other team had made all their moves.  And I couldn't even get the players they dropped because those players ended up on waivers.

I was then informed that "the league is boring and would be much more fun" if owners had more players from different teams.  Hence, a rule was passed that no one can start more than two players from one NFL team in a given week, and no one can have more than three players from the same team on their roster.

So I was like "Well wait a minute.  The season hasn't started yet.  Why don't you just start over without me and re-draft.  Because I'm fine with not playing.  I'm only playing because you wanted a sixth, I'm not even that into fantasy football.  Because really, you're just blatantly cheating now.  I don't even get the point."

They did not take kindly to that.  I was told this was supposed to be FUN! and so they were just trying to make everything even.  Which it was.  Before the draft.  That I had nothing to do with.  As it was autodrafted and I just got lucky.  I was then accused of being over-competitive.

So what I did then was, I went back to my desk and wrote an email to each owner except the commissioner.  I said that according to the rules, I had to remove a Bronco from my roster.  But it was never said that I had to *drop* the player (even though that was what they expected).  Therefore, seeing as how at that point every last player rostered was better than what was left in the pool, I would trade them Montee Ball for whoever they wished.  But they had to do it quick and don't say anything, because wouldn't it be SO MUCH FUN?!?

I then received four crappy offers for Ball.  I randomly selected one.  Waited at my desk.  Sure enough, 15 minutes later I hear a disturbance down the hall.  It seems that three owners objected to a trade that had been made.  Collusion was suspected.  I then showed the commish my offers/emails and said I'd had four similar deals and chose the best one.  Which mostly true because all four offers were terrible.

I was then told "I wasn't taking this seriously."  I agreed, and suggested they find another owner.  Which they did, but they "didn't see why I had to be like that." 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poolio on September 04, 2014, 06:31:47 AM
Oh good lord. Well, at least now you don't have to deal with any league mandated FUN.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: va-vacious on September 04, 2014, 01:14:59 PM
Good grief. You are far better off without them!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Homsar on September 04, 2014, 01:48:17 PM
Wow, that's even worse than my pay league at work last season.  It wasn't the attitudes though.  They just didn't tell me the scoring settings that made TDs golden and devalued yards gained to near nothingness, while making kickers end up being the second biggest scorers after QBs.  And then of course was the autodraft, no one making an effort with trades, and the useless waivers because who actually scores the TDs is very hard to predict week to week.  Manning basically scored half the points of the team that lucked into him.  Told them I was "too busy" this year.  Might as well play the lottery.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: lutz on September 04, 2014, 01:56:11 PM
I have a strong suspicion that Zafer Kaya might be an alias for David Thorne (http://27bslash6.com/).
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on September 21, 2014, 12:34:51 PM
You hear a lot of lunkhead jocks say stuff like "I don't care if people are gay, as long as they don't ACT gay around me."  Presumably gay athletes are not having open sex with other men in lockerrooms or hitting on teammates so "acting gay" has to do with stereotyped behavior other the actual enjoying the company of men thing.

So to that end, I wonder if Raheem Sterling (who presumably is not gay), is inadvertently doing more to break down homophobia in sports by "acting gay" around all his teammates while being awesome at soccer than Michael Sam who actually is gay but in all other ways seems like your regular jockish manly-man but is not that good at football.

The reason why this came up is because I went to the soccer bar near my house yesterday to watch the Liverpool game, and there was a huge gay crowd there specifically cheering on Raheem Sterling because they were convinced he was gay.  I suppose that also calls into question if it's good for gay people to perpetuate gay stereotypes.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on September 23, 2014, 10:39:25 AM
All of this Anthony Kim speculation is intriguing. I've missed seeing him (and those belt buckles) on the tour.

http://www.golf.com/tour-and-news/anthony-kim-ryder-cup-breakout-star-2008-nowhere-be-found

http://www.sbnation.com/golf/2014/9/18/6375011/anthony-kim-insurance-policy-pga-tour-career
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on September 30, 2014, 10:05:17 AM
I think Kim's bigger problem is that the minute he goes to drug or alcohol rehab, that policy might be void as well. 

 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on September 30, 2014, 04:06:42 PM
I think Kim's bigger problem is that the minute he goes to drug or alcohol rehab, that policy might be void as well.
I guess that's why all the hoes miss him at the skrip club. He's cutting back his clubbing ways.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on October 02, 2014, 03:41:37 PM
In Round 2 of the Europa League round robin, Sporting Lokeren beats Metalist Kharkiv (from Ukraine) at home 1-0. Man, I wish I could've been there!

A few weeks ago Lokeren lost away 1-0 at Legia Warsaw. But with today's victory they are definitely in the mix to advance from Group L.

Meanwhile they are in 4th place in the Jupiler Pro League. This past weekend they played away against the 2nd place team and were up 0-1 with victory and 2nd place in sight, and then in the (literally) dying seconds of added time (93rd min.) still allowed the equalizer. Sigh. But still a pretty good result. I would've signed for a 1-1 beforehand.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on October 07, 2014, 09:40:57 AM
I LOVE THE ROYALS - ORIOLES ALCS MATCHUP!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Buzzstein on October 07, 2014, 10:25:23 AM
I LOVE THE ROYALS - ORIOLES ALCS MATCHUP!

LET'S GO ROYYALS! *clap clap, clap clap clap*
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on October 07, 2014, 11:23:48 AM
Anybody but St. Louis.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on October 07, 2014, 01:20:53 PM
Yeah, that's priority number 1. But also, anybody but the Giants and Dodgers, too. Which basically means we'd better get some Nationals fever going on.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on October 07, 2014, 01:23:13 PM
Which basically means we'd better get some Nationals fever going on.

Yep.  It's the only solution.

Fortunately for me, I kind of like the Nationals anyway.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: va-vacious on October 07, 2014, 03:50:20 PM
Nationals and Orioles? That would be like a subway series, right?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on October 07, 2014, 04:58:38 PM
I feel like only teams where it's actually possible to ride the subway from one station to another should count.

You can't actually ride a subway from Baltimore to DC, but you can ride MARC.  So technically it should be a commuter rail series.

But if KC and St. Louis counted as a Subway series, then Baltimore and DC definitely should.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on October 07, 2014, 05:24:41 PM
We'll just call it the MARC series. Or the Amtrak series.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on October 07, 2014, 10:10:47 PM
Can you believe that the Cards won the series vs. the Dodgers, winning yet again by 1 run? Just maddening.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on October 08, 2014, 09:45:50 AM
Yeah, that's priority number 1. But also, anybody but the Giants and Dodgers, too. Which basically means we'd better get some Nationals fever going on.



Blah. So much for that. Can both the Cardinals AND the Giants lose?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on November 22, 2014, 12:15:56 AM
So I was in Chicago earlier this week... giving a presentation to a trade delegation of 20 Flemish companies (it was organized by the Flanders Trade & Investment Agency). In passing in my presentation I mentioned my affection for Sporting Lokeren. Boy, did that get noticed! After the official program there was a reception and I was approached by several company executives who just happened to be from Lokeren, and now looking to be doing business in the US (and perhaps in need of a lawyer in the US, if you get my drift). Could be the most productive business development activity I've done in years.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on December 01, 2014, 11:09:54 PM
I was in Belgium over the long Thanksgiving weekend last week. Lokeren played its last home game in the Europa League group play last Thursday, against Legia Warsaw, which is by far the best team in the group. I went with a buddy of mine from yesteryear, and what a great experience it was. Lokeren scored early, and then held on for dear life, but ended up winning 1-0 in a match that saw plenty of attack and scoring chances on both sides. Fantastic atmosphere in Lokeren's small stadium, including never-ending chants back from the Lokeren die-hards against the visiting Polish fans (about 1,000 of them). (Sadly, after the game we learned that due to the other match result in the group, Lokeren cannot advance, but with 2 victories and 1 tie at home, the team is leaving the Europa League with heads held high.)

I think I've hit the trifecta this year: I saw Lokeren win the Belgian Cup in March (in Brussels), I saw Lokeren in late August at Hull City in the qualifying match to enter the Europa League, and now this. Wow. Not sure it can get any better. Good times indeed...
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on December 11, 2014, 10:38:07 PM
Last post on Lokeren's Europa League adventure. They won again tonight, and finished with a very respectable 10 points, tied for second but, as we already knew beforehand, not enough to advance. Those 10 points would've been enough in 7 of the other Europa League groups to advance. Alas... That said, I am incredibly proud of the team. Now they must concentrate on getting back to Play-off 1 (the top 6 teams play for the title, Lokeren is currently 5th in the standings) and the Belgian Cup (they are in the quarter-finals, and have won 2 of the last 3 Cup finals). And all this on a reported annual budget of about 7 mill EURO, yes you read that right...
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on December 15, 2014, 11:25:48 PM
Everyone talks about Anthony Davis's unibrow, but it's an oddly attractive unibrow.  I mean it's still a unibrow so that ain't good, but it's not as bad as it could be.  Still, why not just shave it?

Anyway, what disturbs me more about Davis is not the brow but his expanding body and neck.  His head looks like a grape perched atop tree trunk growing out of a 40 ton boulder.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on December 16, 2014, 12:54:39 PM
His head/neck/shoulders area looks like a cartoon. It's really impressive.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kwyjibo on December 16, 2014, 01:43:07 PM
Mother of God... is there no PED testing in the NBA?

In other news, I thought I at least knew the names of the NBA teams, but I've never heard of the New Orleans Pelicans.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: daytime drinking on December 17, 2014, 08:54:18 AM
they were the relocated charlotte hornets but changed their name to the state bird pelicans a year or so i think.  that freed up the expansion charlotte bobcats to rekindle the beloved hornet moniker.  i still think utah should give up the jazz to its rightful owner.  utah could be the canyoneers, or the olympians, or  something.  maybe the tigers or bulldogs
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on December 17, 2014, 11:22:21 AM
New Orleans should be the New Orleans Jazz, for sure.

Utah should be the Utah Book of Mormons. If that's too long, then just the Utah Mormons.

Charlotte should be the Charlotte Jordans. Hornets are for wimps. Air Jordan ain't no wimp.

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kwyjibo on December 17, 2014, 04:00:47 PM
Utah should be the Utah Book of Mormons. If that's too long, then just the Utah Mormons.

How about Polygamists?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: daytime drinking on December 17, 2014, 09:01:17 PM
(http://blog.letspour.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/polygamy-porter-featured.jpg)

i think it was good
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on January 27, 2015, 01:48:19 PM
Dear Rafe.... scroll down to number 7. Your team might be the best in school history!

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/forde-minutes--what-s-wrong-with-college-basketball-and-how-to-fix-it-082255594-ncaab.html
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on February 26, 2015, 11:38:26 AM
Ugh.  Patrick Kane and Derrick Rose suffer possibly season-ending injuries on the same night.

At least spring training is finally here, and the Cubs should be-- if not good-- at least extremely interesting with supposedly the greatest collection of rookie/hitting prospects ever witnessed.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on March 06, 2015, 10:38:14 AM
Maybe about 10 years ago, I learned that a great cousin of mine was a major league catcher forÖthe Cubs (what did Depeche Mode say about blasphemous rumors?)  That shame aside, he had a pretty interesting, albeit short, MLB career where he hit a home run in his first and last at bats, played in their last World Series, and was one of the few players of that era who wore the ďruptured duckĒ patch indicating service during WWII.  My uncle and I have been doing research on the guy and, in one article he found, is perhaps the greatest of all sentences in all of sports reporting: ďPaul Gillespie, former Atlanta Tech high school catcher, takes to big league pitching like Uncle Bulgy takes to the bottle on Saturday night.Ē
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on March 06, 2015, 11:33:17 AM
Hah!

I used to have a roommate who was a teacher. He was in his twenties and like most folks in their twenties, he was known to go out on a weeknight from time to time. One of his students said to him one day (after a night out), "you smell like my uncle on a Sunday morning."

He never drank on a school night after that.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on March 09, 2015, 09:07:06 PM
Dammit.  William and Mary has made the CAA Finals 4 times in 8 years.  And lost every time.

This was the first time they were actually favored although really it was even, it was only a 1.5 point spread.  Pre-season Northeastern was picked to finish first in the CAA, William and Mary second.  There ended up being a four way tie for first place, and William and Mary got the #1 seed on tiebreaker.  The two teams split during the regular season.

Northeastern was hot from three point range today.  In bad NCAA basketball that's pretty much the difference.

Still five teams that have never made the NCAA tournament.  St. Francis has a chance to make it four tomorrow.  Although they had the least excuse to have never gone anyway.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on March 10, 2015, 10:28:28 PM
Haha.  Take that, St. Francis.  If we don't go, then you don't go.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: daytime drinking on March 11, 2015, 03:10:30 PM
Ugh.  Patrick Kane and Derrick Rose suffer possibly season-ending injuries on the same night.

At least spring training is finally here, and the Cubs should be-- if not good-- at least extremely interesting with supposedly the greatest collection of rookie/hitting prospects ever witnessed.

just like the good ole days of dwight smith and jerome walton   :D
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on March 11, 2015, 06:46:10 PM
Surprise: PSG advances in the Champions League against Chelsea, despite (i) the return game being at Chelsea, (ii) PSG being down to 10 after only 30 min. and (iii) Chelsea taking the lead not once, but twice. Talk about resilience!

I've seen the goals but not the entire match so I don't know if this was deserved.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poolio on March 12, 2015, 06:31:20 AM
I've seen the goals but not the entire match so I don't know if this was deserved.
Oh, PSG deserved the win. Chelsea were sluggish, lackadaisical and made poor decisions all game long. The red card on Zlatan was soft and, if that was the standard set by the referee, Diego Costa should have been sent off in the second half for a dangerous challenge. PSG played strong defensively and, to their credit, shifted their formation to make up for the loss of a man. They weren't without stupid decisions (that handball was just ridiculous) but, overall, were the better side.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: MissKitty on March 12, 2015, 09:10:04 AM
Really nice interview with my favorite footballer Marian Pahars in the new issue of Gateway Riga Magazine. <3 <3 <3

http://www.riga-airport.com/en/main/newsroom/airport-magazine-gateway-riga
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: lutz on March 14, 2015, 02:59:36 PM
Have any of you been following the rugby at all? The Wales-Ireland match was fantastically exciting today - I highly recommend watching a replay of it.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on March 16, 2015, 09:49:43 PM
I predict that a school whose team colors includes blue will win the NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on March 16, 2015, 10:06:33 PM
I dunno.  I'm just not buying this 30 for 30 show on Laettner.

In retrospect, I maybe feel a little bad for hating Bobby Hurley.  What did he do wrong?  He went to Duke, who I hate but that was a smart choice.  The academics are good, the basketball is good.  It'd be kind of dumb not to go.  Also, he had an extremely punchable face, but he can't help his face.  And he played hard which it is hard to criticize especially for one who maybe doesn't have the best talent/physical abilities.

I hated Grant Hill, but again.  Dude was very privileged but he can't help that.  His parents were ivy-leaguers, his dad was an NFL player.  He won the genetic and cultural lottery.  But he did stuff with it.  It's not like he sucked and didn't try hard and just cruised.  He was an amazing basketball player, who if he hadn't played for some crap teams and got injured might be one of the greatest ever.  He might still be one of the greatest ever.

Cherokee Parks?  meh.  I knew even then the label never fit him.  He was kind of a hippy.

But Laettner really was a dick.  He was a dirty player, and acted like he wasn't.  All these people are like "Oh, he didn't care if people didn't like him, he told it like it was."  Really?  Then why did he rip off his teammates for millions of dollars?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: kcneon on March 17, 2015, 01:26:08 AM
I predict that a school whose team colors includes blue will win the NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament.
Lol. Tomorrow I'm starting a blog about the teams who have a chance to conquer the big blue. Trixi's gonna love this! ;)  #6TTOUK. And it's really not that I want to see them get beat, but rather the chance to make a little history whether they win it all or not. Those kids on those possible 6 teams will have some great stories to tell.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on March 17, 2015, 10:15:44 AM
Well, I will win $120 if UK wins it, so I am in the weird position of rooting for a front runner.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on March 23, 2015, 01:48:14 PM
I've realized there's nothing better in sports than the team that is kinda/sorta in your region but plays in a completely different division.

Like UVA.  I kinda don't like UVA because they're like the preppy/snobby big school in Virginia.  But at the same time, I dislike them much less than every other ACC school.  And I have tons of friends that are UVA fans.  So I generally root mildly for them to win.  And win they do, I'm happy.  At the same time, when they lose the evil part of me is like "Take that, UVA snobs!"  So there's no UVA scoreline that doesn't make me feel better. 

Same with VCU.  I get all snobby when it comes to them because I feel like my school was better academically and none of their players could get into my school.  Also, when they win there's much drunken revelry and I can't park on my street and things tend to get destroyed.  At the same time, they are sort of an underdog and living in Richmond I do enjoy how the entire city perks up and gets excited.  So if they lose I'm happy and if they win I'm happy.

Same with Virginia Tech.

In an odd way, I suppose that makes these schools my favorite sports teams.  They never let me down.  It's true they never make my super-ecstatic either.  But over the years, all those little bits of happiness I get from each game add up and those teams have probably brought me more joy than the teams I actually root for.

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on March 23, 2015, 03:27:02 PM
About freakin' time:


NFL owners voted Monday to suspend the league's local TV blackout policy for the 2015 season.


The blackouts will be suspended for preseason and regular-season games. The league expects to evaluate the move after the season.

Games are routinely not shown in local markets if the local team does not sell a specified number of tickets.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on March 23, 2015, 11:04:15 PM
I just read that there was only one team that voted against lifting the black-out rule.... Wanna guess which one?

You got it, the Bengals!

I'm not surprise one bit. They have been having so many troubles meeting the required sell-out rule in the last couple of years, even with the team performing well (if you can call it that). I am going on record right now that ticket sales for 2015 will drop markedly, now that the black-out rule has been nixed.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on March 24, 2015, 07:30:27 AM
I just read that there was only one team that voted against lifting the black-out rule.... Wanna guess which one?

You got it, the Bengals!

When I heard that yesterday evening, I guaranteed my wife that Mike Brown was not for it.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kwyjibo on March 24, 2015, 08:15:17 AM
Stay classy, Mike Brown.  Fuck the fans, right?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on April 02, 2015, 10:38:14 PM
Serena Williams vs Simona Halep is maybe the most fascinating matchup in sports.

On the one hand, you have a physical beast who in a lot of ways has a rather shitty tennis game.  But she can get away with it, and I think she should.  It's cool when someone redefines the rules.

On the other hand, you have someone who has an awesome tennis game, but was cursed by fate/genetics/God in the same way Serena was blessed. 

I like them both.  If I was Serena, I would totally not let my physical gifts, or some cultural/athletic value define me as a person.  If I can get away with hitting the ball all crazy, and maybe not play all the tournaments, but still win the ones I want, plus do some stuff like fashion where she is sort of not-so-well-built and outside the societal culture, I would.  Serena isn't interested in tennis player values, and that's cool.

But if I were Simona Halep, and I wanted to define myself as a tennis player and I did everything right... I wouldn't let my gigantic knockers stop me.  I would totally get breast reduction surgery.  It's not like she's doing something bad for her health, or becoming something nature wouldn't intend.  I mean, for a tennis player she is tiny.  She's like 5'6" 130lb.  That's about as close to a regular person build as you will find in pro athletics.

I see them both as defining their own existence.  Serena has all the tennis player gifts but she doesn't necessarily want to be just a traditional tennis player.  Halep does not have all the tennis player gifts but she actually does want to be a tennis player. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: jcarwash31 on April 03, 2015, 01:41:29 PM
Your excellent analysis really caught my attention.  ;) I had to familiarize myself with this talented tennis player.

But if I were Simona Halep, and I wanted to define myself as a tennis player and I did everything right... I wouldn't let my gigantic knockers stop me.  I would totally get breast reduction surgery. 

She apparently had this surgery in 2009 and was ranked 500th in the world at the time.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on April 30, 2015, 09:53:37 PM
Very sad to read the news about Lokeren's Gregory Merten. Collapsing on the pitch and then dying three days later. Isn't Lokeren Euro60's team?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on April 30, 2015, 10:46:55 PM
Very sad to read the news about Lokeren's Gregory Merten. Collapsing on the pitch and then dying three days later. Isn't Lokeren Euro60's team?
I was just about to post about this but CR was ahead of me.

Yes, Lokeren is my team. This has come as a bombshell to not just Lokeren but the entire Belgian football community. Mertens was just 24 and was an up-and-coming player for whom Lokeren had great hopes and plans. He was on the team (but didn't play) when Lokeren won the Belgian Cup last year.

There was a moving tribute to him at tonight's Gent-Anderlecht  Play-off 1 game .

Tributes on Twitter have been amazing from all over, including unexpected sources like Chelsea, Aston Villa, Gary Lineker, etc.

http://sporza.be/cm/sporza/voetbal/Jupiler_Pro_League/1.2323153

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on May 01, 2015, 10:02:22 AM
Very sorry to hear the news, too. That is always very worrying. RIP.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: foolsgold on May 04, 2015, 01:46:59 PM
Did anyone watch the fight?  I think Iím in the minority and actually really enjoyed it.  I knew it wasnít going to be super exciting, because recent Mayweather fights generally arenít all that thrilling.  To watch how he controls the pace and can limit his opponents is remarkable to me.  He doesnít get enough credit, as a boxer, for that aspect which is ridiculous.  You wouldnít criticize a pitcher for throwing a no-hitter because he didnít give the other team a fair shake at hitting the ball.

Prediction: Mayweather retires this fall 49-0.  He waits a year or two and plays the ďwill he/wonít heĒ hype game before acquiescing to a rematch with Pacquiao.  By that point, heíll probably double his earnings from this last fight and, likely, end up moving past Marciano. 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on May 04, 2015, 02:09:12 PM
We tried. But we were amongst the many who literally couldn't watch.

http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/floyd-mayweather-manny-pacquiao-cable-outages-time-warner-cable-charter-1201486280/

I *think* I am getting a refund, but it's TWC, so I am sure they will try some BS on us and not refund.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on May 05, 2015, 10:57:33 PM
He waits a year or two and plays the ďwill he/wonít heĒ hype game before acquiescing to a rematch with Pacquiao.   
First of all, I really don't care about this. But I heard today that a rematch is already in the works for 2016.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on May 07, 2015, 10:21:48 AM
They both made boatloads of money. It shouldn't surprise anyone if they went at it again.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on May 21, 2015, 12:09:59 PM
2015 Global Salary Survey

The survey by ESPN The Magazine and SportingIntelligence reveals which teams spend the most on their players, including an analysis of 333 teams in 17 major pro leagues, covering seven sports, 13 countries and 9,731 athletes who are making a combined $17.94 billion.


Rank ('14 rank) Team, League Avg. annual ($) Payroll (rank)

1 (new) Paris Saint-Germain, Ligue 1 9.1M (n/a) 227.1M (2)
2 (4) Real Madrid, La Liga 8.6M (13.9%) 216M (4)
3 (1) Manchester City, EPL 8.6M (6%) 215M (5)
4 (5) Barcelona, La Liga 8.1M (8.6%) 202.1M (6)
5 (3) Los Angeles Dodgers, MLB 8M (3.1%) 272.8M (1)
6 (8 Manchester United, EPL 8M (22.2%) 200.6M (7)
7 (7) Bayern Munich, Bundesliga 7.7M (14.5%) 191.5M (8
8 (10) Chelsea, EPL 7.5M (23.3%) 186.6M (10)
9 (2) New York Yankees, MLB 7.3M (-9%) 219.3M (3)
10 (11) Arsenal, EPL 7M (17.2%) 173.8M (12)
11 (6) Brooklyn Nets, NBA 6.2M (-8.3%) 93.7M (70)
12 (13) Detroit Tigers, MLB 6.2M (6.6%) 173.8M (11)
13 (17) San Francisco Giants, MLB 6.2M (12.3%) 172.7M (13)
14 (20) Liverpool, EPL 6M (16.3%) 150.4M (16)
15 (12) New York Knicks, NBA 5.9M (0.2%) 88.2M (75)
16 (29) Washington Nationals, MLB 5.7M (18.5%) 164.9M (14)
17 (15) Boston Red Sox, MLB 5.7M (-0.7%) 187.4M (9)
18 (26) Los Angeles Clippers, NBA 5.3M (8.2%) 80M (79)
19 (37) Sacramento Kings, NBA 5.1M (14.4%) 71M (105)
20 (35) Denver Nuggets, NBA 5M (12.3%) 75.6M (87)
21 (45) Toronto Raptors, NBA 5M (20.4%) 75.5M (89)
22 (33) Memphis Grizzlies, NBA 5M (9.3%) 75.1M (90)
23 (52) Cleveland Cavaliers, NBA 4.9M (21.4%) 74.2M (93)
24 (18) Juventus, Serie A 4.9M (-8.2%) 127.4M (19)
25 (28) Golden State Warriors, NBA 4.9M (1.8%) 73.4M (94)
26 (43) Washington Wizards, NBA 4.9M (14.1%) 73M (96)
27 (14) Philadelphia Phillies, MLB 4.9M (-16.2%) 135.8M (18)
28 (16) Miami Heat, NBA 4.8M (-13.2%) 72.5M (99)
29 (9) Chicago Bulls, NBA 4.8M (-20.2%) 67.6M (118)
30 (54) Tottenham, EPL 4.8M (19.4%) 120.5M (27)
31 (19) Los Angeles Lakers, NBA 4.8M (-7.4%) 72M (101)
32 (21) Boston Celtics, NBA 4.8M (-6%) 71.7M (104)
33 (23) Indiana Pacers, NBA 4.8M (-4.7%) 76.2M (82)
34 (22) Oklahoma City Thunder, NBA 4.8M (-5.4%) 76M (84)
35 (30) Toronto Blue Jays, MLB 4.7M (-1.7%) 122.5M (23)
36 (65) Cincinnati Reds, MLB 4.7M (37.7%) 117.2M (35)
37 (32) New Orleans Pelicans, NBA 4.6M (0.8%) 69.6M (108)
38 (46) Portland Trail Blazers, NBA 4.6M (10.4%) 69.1M (111)
39 (36) Dallas Mavericks, NBA 4.6M (2.5%) 69M (112)
40 (42) San Antonio Spurs, NBA 4.6M (6.1%) 68.3M (117)
41 (40) Royal Challengers, Bangalore, IPL 4.5M (2.6%) 9.7M (253)
42 (44) Chennai Super Kings, IPL 4.5M (6.1%) 9.6M (257)
43 (24) Mumbai Indians, IPL 4.5M (-9.9%) 9.6M (258)
44 (34) Minnesota Timberwolves, NBA 4.4M (-2.6%) 65.9M (125)
45 (98) Sunrisers Hyderabad, IPL 4.4M (73.5%) 9.4M (262)
46 (50) Houston Rockets, NBA 4.4M (5.9%) 65.5M (127)
47 (39) Kolkata Knight Riders, IPL 4.4M (-0.6%) 9.4M (264)
48 (41) Delhi Daredevils, IPL 4.3M (1.1%) 9.4M (265)
49 (38) Los Angeles Angels, MLB 4.3M (-2.3%) 150.9M (15)
50 (48) Texas Rangers, MLB 4.3M (4%) 142.1M (17)
51 (53) Charlotte Hornets, NBA 4.3M (6%) 64.5M (129)
52 (73) Seattle Mariners, MLB 4.3M (38.6%) 119.8M (28)
53 (51) Schalke, Bundesliga 4.3M (4.7%) 106.7M (54)
54 (66) Minnesota Twins, MLB 4.2M (23.4%) 108.9M (48)
55 (56) St. Louis Cardinals, MLB 4.2M (8%) 120.9M (26)
56 (69) Chicago White Sox, MLB 4.1M (24.1%) 115.2M (38)
57 (60) Utah Jazz, NBA 4.1M (9%) 57.6M (153)
58 (27) Milan, Serie A 4.1M (-16.2%) 118.5M (32)
59 (170) Rajasthan Royals, IPL 4.1M (137.4%) 8.8M (273)
60 (68) Kansas City Royals, MLB 4.1M (21.1%) 113.6M (41)
61 (103) Kings XI Punjab, IPL 4M (63%) 8.7M (274)
62 (47) Borussia Dortmund, Bundesliga 4M (-3.3%) 100.5M (65)
63 (49) Detroit Pistons, NBA 4M (-3.7%) 59.6M (147)
64 (57) Atlanta Hawks, NBA 3.9M (3.4%) 59M (148)
65 (64) Phoenix Suns, NBA 3.9M (12.7%) 58.1M (150)
66 (25) Roma, Serie A 3.8M (-22.2%) 99.9M (66)
67 (59) Milwaukee Bucks, NBA 3.7M (-1.9%) 55.8M (155)
68 (89) Chicago Cubs, MLB 3.6M (35.5%) 119M (29)
69 (31) Internazionale, Serie A 3.6M (-23.2%) 99.8M (67)
70 (67) Baltimore Orioles, MLB 3.6M (4.8%) 110.1M (46)
71 (62) Colorado Rockies, MLB 3.5M (-4.6%) 102M (60)
72 (58) Milwaukee Brewers, MLB 3.5M (-8%) 105M (57)
73 (71) Atlanta Braves, MLB 3.5M (10.4%) 97.6M (69)
74 (87) New York Rangers, NHL 3.3M (24.8%) 76.8M (81)
75 (105) Pittsburgh Penguins, NHL 3.3M (35.7%) 73.3M (95)
76 (76) Chicago Blackhawks, NHL 3.3M (9.6%) 75.6M (86)
77 (72) New York Mets, MLB 3.3M (4.8%) 101.4M (62)
78 (new) Monaco, Ligue 1 3.2M (n/a) 81.2M (78)
79 (90) Napoli, Serie A 3.1M (18.5%) 75.6M (88)
80 (75) Aston Villa, EPL 3.1M (1.9%) 77.6M (80)
81 (81) Los Angeles Kings, NHL 3.1M (8.3%) 74.4M (92)
82 (74) Cleveland Indians, MLB 3.1M (0.6%) 86.1M (76)
83 (77) San Diego Padres, MLB 3.1M (5.2%) 100.7M (64)
84 (110) Toronto Maple Leafs, NHL 3M (24.7%) 72.6M (98)
85 (91) Atletico Madrid, La Liga 3M (13.7%) 74.9M (91)
86 (new) Lyon, Ligue 1 2.9M (n/a) 71.8M (102)
87 (88) Newcastle, EPL 2.9M (7.8%) 71.8M (103)
88 (78) Pittsburgh Pirates, MLB 2.8M (-1.2%) 88.3M (74)
89 (79) Philadelphia Flyers, NHL 2.8M (-1.8%) 75.9M (85)
90 (93) Everton, EPL 2.8M (6.9%) 70.1M (107)
91 (120) Tampa Bay Lightning, NHL 2.8M (22.6%) 66.6M (122)
92 (97) Detroit Red Wings, NHL 2.8M (9.8%) 72.1M (100)
93 (61) Arizona Diamondbacks, MLB 2.8M (-25.6%) 91.5M (72)
94 (109) Sunderland, EPL 2.8M (14%) 69.3M (109)
95 (153) Swansea, EPL 2.8M (43.2%) 69.1M (110)
96 (63) Orlando Magic, NBA 2.8M (-21.9%) 41.3M (169)
97 (124) Edmonton Oilers, NHL 2.7M (23.2%) 68.4M (115)
98 (111) Wolfsburg, Bundesliga 2.7M (14.4%) 68.4M (116)
99 (104) St Louis Blues, NHL 2.7M (9.4%) 67.5M (119)
100 (82) Minnesota Wild, NHL 2.7M (-4.9%) 67.5M (120)  
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on May 21, 2015, 12:28:47 PM
Wow.  I had no idea Cricket was that big of a business.  I mean, I knew it was really huge in India and all, but I never would have guessed their teams spend on the level of mid/large market NBA, MLB, or NFL clubs.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on May 21, 2015, 03:09:31 PM
Wow.  I had no idea Cricket was that big of a business.
Same here. That was THE surprise for me from that list.

And let's be clear: $4 million in India is not equal to $4 million in the US or Europe. Probably feels more like $40 mill in India.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: lutz on May 21, 2015, 05:01:54 PM
The IPL is almost like the cricketing equivalent of the Champion's League in football, and cricket is probably the second biggest sport in the world after football. India, Pakistan and Bangladesh alone make up almost a quarter of the global population and cricket is their one true love. That's a massive, massive market before you even factor in the UK, Australia and other commonwealth countries.

I don't know how Twenty20 hasn't taken off in the US - you'd think you guys would be good at it given the similarity with baseball.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on May 22, 2015, 07:48:18 AM
Twenty20 is awesome.  I was actually sad to see that ESPN moved all of the Pepsi IPL behind a paywall this year, whereas last year it was almost all part of the ESPN3 package.

Plus, that league only plays for 2 months a year, starts in early April and ends in mid-May.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on June 02, 2015, 02:06:31 PM
BIG NEWS:


FIFIA President Sepp Blatter is resigning, only 4 days after having been re-elected.

This is great news for football fans all over the world.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poolio on June 02, 2015, 02:07:30 PM
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/32982449 (http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/32982449)

For those that want to read all about it.

I have to say my jaw dropped. And then I got mad. He could have saved everybody a shitload of trouble by stepping out of last week's election.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on June 02, 2015, 02:13:13 PM
Poolio, you're talking as if Blatter has football's best interest in mind.

He has only one interest in mind. His own...  :o


PS Is it too early to start discussions about what the odds are that the 2022 WC will be taken away from Qatar? That would be the ultimate justice.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: lutz on June 02, 2015, 03:20:26 PM
The timing is a bit suspicious, no? I doubt he'll be making way for Ali bin al-Hussein, more likely some other corrupt stooge that's waiting in the wings.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on June 02, 2015, 04:22:45 PM
more likely some other corrupt stooge that's waiting in the wings.

This is what I'm worried about. Hopefully there will continue to be arrests so that there aren't any of the obviously corrupt stooges left for Blatter to arrange to take over endorse.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on June 02, 2015, 04:46:02 PM
The timing is a bit suspicious, no?
Apparently the FBI is *this* close on issuing an indictment for Blatter. That's what I'm thinking was the major driver of his surprise announcement.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poolio on June 03, 2015, 06:19:19 AM
The timing is a bit suspicious, no?
Apparently the FBI is *this* close on issuing an indictment for Blatter. That's what I'm thinking was the major driver of his surprise announcement.
I agree. I also agree with some of the football talking heads who have suggested that some of Blatter's lawyers mentioned to him that, perhaps, going to Canada for the women's world cup might be a risky trip since the FBI has their sights set on him.

I think the 2018 World Cup will probably stay where it is but 2022 is another matter. Unless they elect someone besides Sepp Blatter Jr., I doubt it will leave Qatar.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on June 03, 2015, 10:15:55 PM
I wouldn't beat all surprised if there wasn't a contract out on Blatter's life, if only to shut his pie hole mouthing off about other deals - including corporate backhanders - that he's been involved in.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poolio on June 04, 2015, 06:27:27 AM
Me either.

It looks like Jack Warner is turning informer <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3U2NNv8VcE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3U2NNv8VcE)> on the old FIFA. I am pretty sure this is just to save his ass but it will be interesting to hear what he has to say and what sort of proof he can provide.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on June 04, 2015, 09:55:18 AM
I was reading something about this whole mess (I think it was on Grantland) and the author was like, 'corrupt they certainly were. Sophisticated they were not.'

If Jack Warner is turning informer...again, sophisticated they are not.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on June 04, 2015, 01:05:38 PM
Sometimes....pro athletes are just the best.

https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/pitchside-europe/papiss-cisse-gets-married-in-paris-without-telling-british-girlfriend-112009514.html

I am thoroughly amused.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on June 04, 2015, 03:31:45 PM
As this episode once again makes clear, it is comforting to know that The Sun is doing the tough investigative reporting that other papers simply don't have the stomach for anymore  ;D
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on June 08, 2015, 11:44:25 AM
Caaaaaavvsss!!!!!!

Truly an emotional game last night. I really haven't felt so giddy after watching a game in a very long time.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on June 14, 2015, 10:09:15 AM
Just when you thought things might, just might, get better at FIFA:

Sepp Blatter is considering staying on as FIFA president, despite handing in his resignation in early June, according to Swiss newspaper Schweiz am Sonntag.

The paper quoted an unnamed source close to Blatter saying that he "had received messages of support from African and Asian football associations" asking him to rethink his decision to step down.


http://www.espnfc.com/fifa-world-cup/story/2491089/sepp-blatter-reconsidering-his-fifa-resignation-report
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kwyjibo on June 15, 2015, 10:54:08 AM
Got to see the Dayton Dragons hit three dingers in a row in the 4th inning Saturday night.  First time in the history of the franchise.  Pretty dang cool.

We've been to numerous Dragons' games in the past three years and it's amazing how alternately boring and exciting minor league baseball can be.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on June 15, 2015, 06:10:42 PM
"The Cannibal" turns 70 this week. <sigh>

An entire nation celebrates the genius of the best bicyclist ever. There will NEVER be another one like him.

Happy birthday, Eddy!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: MissKitty on June 16, 2015, 09:09:00 PM
USA ladies look very good in this WC.

In other news, I am still consoling myself over Latvia's 2nd loss to Netherlands in UEFA 2016. They were doing so well in the first half, only to fall apart as soon as NL scored. Gutted for manager, and my lil sweetheart, Marian Pahars.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on June 16, 2015, 11:07:19 PM
USA ladies look very good in this WC.
you really think so? I have not been impressed, and I've watched all 3 games. Australia outplayed them for much of the game, even if the US won. The game against Sweden was just difficult to watch, such sloppy play. Even with Nigeria down to 10 in tonight's match, the outcome of the game remained in the balance to the end. The defense looks solid, but not nearly as much so on the offensive side. Despite that one moment of brilliance in tonight's game Wambach is looking shaky, and frankly seems out of form. Maybe the team will get better as the tournament goes on, I can only hope so.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on June 17, 2015, 12:58:18 AM
It's hard to get used to adjusted expectations, where the US is no longer like waaaay better than just about everyone else.

It's also kind of a grim thing to watch.  It's the last go around for a lot of them, and they've never won a WC.  At the same time, the expectations are so high. Plus the women's league is not exactly taking off.  It's like anything less than a championship will feel like a total failure.  Not just of this tournament but maybe their entire careers. 

They want to win, bad.  But in kind of a bad way.  You just feel like if they won they'd be more relieved than happy.  Wambach seems to embody this most of all.  She's just so determined.  But it cuts both ways.  On the pitch, no one fights harder.  But she also needs to be reined in at times, and USSF is too wussy to do it.  I think she should have to play in the women's league.  I sort of suspect she wanted Sermanni out, because he wasn't all asskicking and was trying to use new players and all Wambach wanted to do was win.

Wambach is like half the player she used to be, but if there is a loose ball in the box, or you need a targetwoman for flickons and such, she's still pretty awesome. 

Anyway, I think they've been decent but not great.  The team doesn't have a lot of flair, they are just fast and/or strong.  I thought tonight was a good example.  You could see how badly they miss Morgan who is their one sort of flair player when she wasn't in.  It's also a poorly constructed team.  I think they are just throwing in the best players, but some of those players are being played out-of-position and don't look comfortable.  It's not a good sign when so much of the team is over 30.  I don't think much of Ellis as a coach, or USSF for hiring her and for generally not advancing women's soccer one iota so that there is precious little new blood.

Klinsmann should be coaching this team, Ellis should be coaching the men.

But OTOH, the women tonight were never really threatened.  The score line makes it seem close but they controlled the game.  They advanced easily out of their group, and that group was by far the hardest.  If they'd played Thailand and Ivory Coast, they would have won by 15 goals and no one would be that worried.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on June 17, 2015, 10:39:06 PM
Anyone watching the Copa America? Tonight's Brazil-Colombia game was just riveting from start to finish. The furious end-rally of the Brazilians to try and erase the 1-0 deficit was amazing. And then after-game "activities"! (Brazil did lose.) 2 reds cards AFTER the game ended. Football at its best.

It's a completely unfair comparison, I know, but watching the Women's World Cup last night and then this tonight, OMG, the difference...
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: c-lando on June 18, 2015, 10:29:22 AM
Anyone watching the Copa America? Tonight's Brazil-Colombia game was just riveting from start to finish. The furious end-rally of the Brazilians to try and erase the 1-0 deficit was amazing. And then after-game "activities"! (Brazil did lose.) 2 reds cards AFTER the game ended. Football at its best.

It's a completely unfair comparison, I know, but watching the Women's World Cup last night and then this tonight, OMG, the difference...
I watched some of this match. Didn't get to see the "activities" until the post-match discussions. But, it was definitely some fun football.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on June 23, 2015, 12:01:06 PM
Another ho-hum performance last night of Team USA in the Women's World Cup. Defensively they look very sold, no question. But the midfield play and the offense is just hap-hazard. As one of the TV talking heads correctly put it afterwards: "I'd like to see Jill's game plan. Where is the game plan? Where is the tactic?" (Jill = Team USA coach)

Wambauch was nowhere. AND missed a penalty. AND after the game had the audacity to basically accuse the ref of giving the 2 yellow cards (against Holiday and Rapinoe) on purpose so that these two would miss the next match. Really?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: MissKitty on June 23, 2015, 12:12:01 PM
I don't think USA has a chance without Rapinoe.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on June 23, 2015, 04:11:21 PM
I haven't read much in general, but the little that I have suggests that China's team is the weakest team remaining. So there's a chance without Rapinoe. But yes, she's deffo the best player out there.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on June 24, 2015, 10:00:04 AM
I think the danger with China is that since we play the most conservative and boring tactics ever in the history of the world, and they are generally disciplined (and dirty when they need to be) that we end up 0-0 and go to PK lottery.

I love Rapinoe, but I don't think losing her will hurt that much, because we never use her anyway.  Two banks of four, eight women behind the ball, long route one punts.  It's like watching Stoke.  Would it kill us to make an overlapping run or take it down the flanks now and again?

In contrast, that Japan team is so much fun to watch.  Everyone runs up to help on offense.  Everyone gets back on defense.  And they transition so fast, too.  That's the thing, you'd think a swarming-style team like that would lack some organization but their positioning and spacing is always tight.

There were at least 2-3 times where I thought Netherlands had them on a counter last night and Japan was in trouble, but they killed the threat really at mid field.  Also, man are they ballsy about passing in their own third.  If the left or right back is pressed, they think nothing of passing the ball square right to a CB inside the 18.  I mean, they have to play that way.  They're not going to win the game in the air, that's for sure.

If we had either Netherlands or Japan's coach this World Cup wouldn't even be close.  We'd beat everyone by four goals, including that slow-ass German team.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on June 24, 2015, 10:03:30 AM
This one is for CR:


http://imgur.com/iDZXdIb

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on June 24, 2015, 11:30:18 AM
In contrast, that Japan team is so much fun to watch.  Everyone runs up to help on offense.  Everyone gets back on defense.  And they transition so fast, too.  That's the thing, you'd think a swarming-style team like that would lack some organization but their positioning and spacing is always tight.

There were at least 2-3 times where I thought Netherlands had them on a counter last night and Japan was in trouble, but they killed the threat really at mid field.  Also, man are they ballsy about passing in their own third.  If the left or right back is pressed, they think nothing of passing the ball square right to a CB inside the 18.  I mean, they have to play that way.  They're not going to win the game in the air, that's for sure.
I saw the last hour of the match, and I was really struck by a couple of things:

1. Japan is playing really well. The end score doesn't reflect what happened on the field, and but for that inexcusable lapse of the Japanese goalie at the very end, the score really should've been 2-0, and that was a correct reflection of what I saw.

2. I didn't see a single 'dirty" foul by either team. Also: I didn't see a single player on either team complaining about a call (such as: which team gets a throw in). Also, I didn't see a single player on either team trying to sell something (such as a dive or fake injury). When you see a match playing out like this, you realize how refreshing it is AND how infested in particular men's football has become with the non-stop bickering, complaining, faking, dirty fouling, etc. etc., I mean ALL THE TIME.

Looking forward to Friday's game against China. Hoping for the best, preparing for the worst...
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: MissKitty on June 24, 2015, 11:32:10 AM
This one is for CR:

http://imgur.com/iDZXdIb

Oh dear.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Kwyjibo on June 24, 2015, 11:44:24 AM
This one is for CR:


http://imgur.com/iDZXdIb



I assume that's not real...
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on June 24, 2015, 12:50:55 PM
This one is for CR:


http://imgur.com/iDZXdIb



I assume that's not real...


Heheh.

https://twitter.com/bbcthree/status/613087711230988288
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: lutz on June 24, 2015, 02:43:29 PM
This one is for CR:


http://imgur.com/iDZXdIb
Somewhere out there, a comma is weeping.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on June 24, 2015, 09:43:52 PM
This one is for CR:


http://imgur.com/iDZXdIb
Somewhere out there, a comma is weeping.
What is this thing called, love?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on June 24, 2015, 11:05:32 PM
Watched the second half of the Copa America quarter-finals Chile-Uruguay... oh my.... fireworks! The ref completely lost control of the game, Handed out a second yellow card to a player from Uruguay that was just ridiculous, Chile scored 1-0, then ANOTHER second yellow to another guy from Uruguay that was debatable, and all hell broke loose for about 5 min.with everyone in on it, even the managers. Wow, just wow. (Chile ended up winning.)
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on June 25, 2015, 10:00:35 AM
Here's Cavani's red card:

http://streamable.com/9eas

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on June 25, 2015, 11:09:58 AM
http://prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com/2015/06/24/jara-banned-from-copa-america-after-below-the-belt-incident-causes-cavani-red-card-video/


Sounds like Jara has been banned for the rest of the tournament.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Poolio on June 25, 2015, 12:05:53 PM
Good. That was ridiculous.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Dan on June 25, 2015, 02:28:23 PM
Helped his team win the game, though. For what that is worth.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on June 27, 2015, 12:09:49 AM
great game from the US Women's Football Team tonight, beating China 1-0. By far their best game of the tourney so far. Such dominance, and only 1 goal, though. I couldn't believe the miss in the first minute of the game when Rodriguez was alone in front of the Chinese goalie, wow. But Lloyd came through again. It should never have been this close. The pressure from the US in the 1st half was relentless, and produced multiple turn-overs. They should not have abandoned that strategy after scoring (IMHO).

Next up in the semi-finals: Germany, next Tuesday. I'll be glued to the tube.

After the US-China game was over, I switched over to the Copa America, and caught the epic penalty shoot-out between Argentina and Colombia. Wow, just wow.

Fun evening of watching football.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on July 01, 2015, 11:06:12 PM
Wow.

That OG is just unbelievably cruel.  Bassett just got totally screwed on that one.  I feel horrible for her.  I honestly can't imagine more of a nightmare scenario for a defender in a game.

 It was a good cross, and England got caught out.  There was an attacker free in the box so it's really tough to just let it go.  On the other hand, it's just a little bit too far in front for you to try control and clear.  You can just get a foot on it.  But if you do, you could easily end up just deflecting it in.  So you might as well just try to kick it but then if you do that and you can't quite get your boot on it enough then you could easily kick it over your keeper and into the goal.

But you figure  --not unreasonably-- that the kicked, over-the-endline clearance is your best option.  But then the ball just happens to bounce right in the wrong place too so that it gets juuuuuuust a little farther from you and now you have to kind of half-volley it on the short hop.  And you are super-tired so you end up lunging at it a bit more than you wanted....

That thing had OG written all over it.  I mean as soon as I saw Bassett go for it, I was like "Oh, fuck." 

The worst kind of own goal, too.  I mean, if someone hits a rocket three feet from you and it deflects in you just feel like "Well there was no way I could do anything about that.  Plus it would have gone in anyway." 

But this one, man... you know that you intentionally kicked it.  And you know you could have not done it.  Like it was hard, but doable.  Like maybe 50% of the time, you clear it.  And then 25% of the time you actually botch it bad enough that it just squirts off in some crazy direction or right at the keeper, or you slip but the attacker doesn't get to it or whatever. 

This just happened to be the 1 in four chance where you actually kind of played it just well enough to miss score a perfect goal.  I mean like right in the corner.  Six inches right or higher and you're safe.  So it's not even like, a real mistake.  A real mistake/awful play might have had less chance of scoring.

On the positive side, at least Bassett plays for England, so no one is going to be mad.  I'm sure she and the rest of the team will get a hero's reception, as they should.  Compare that to Rooney, Sterling, and Terry.  They're too lazy to even score on their own goas.  They just let the other team do it for them.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on July 01, 2015, 11:24:34 PM
yea, totally agreed on that. By all means, England was the better team and should've won the game. But to end it like this, is just cruel. I mean, not just scoring the OG, but doing so with 1 minute left in the game when there is no come-back possible. Just horrible. And so undeserving.

As a further aside, have you noticed how Japan plays? Basically like a swarm of bees on their own defensive side, and then using their quickness to go on the counter-attack. Despite the swarm of bees, England had several outstanding scoring chances in the 2nd half, yet couldn't convert, sadly enough.

Given the way the US team has progressed in the tourney, by all means they should beat Japan in the final. Given the early criticism of coach Jenny Ellis, let's admit she's made some good adjustments as the tourney has progressed. Among others, Wambauch is no longer a starter, and that is exactly how it should be.

I'll be glued to the TV on Sunday evening for the final, that's for sure. Go USA!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on July 02, 2015, 02:35:15 AM
I don't know what to make of Ellis.  Hard to get into that mindset.

Most people who are idiots stay that way, that's why they are idiots in the first place.  So it's amazing and admirable to me that you were able to go from idiot to sensible.  It takes guts to change a formation in the semi-finals of a World Cup. At the same time, how can I credit you for finally abandoning that stupid 4-4-2 tactic when everyone in the whole world has known it was wrong for ages?  You are now at the level-- miraculously-- that you should have been at in the first place.

Japan is one of the most enjoyable teams to watch in sports.  Not women's sports, or soccer, or whatever.  Just all sports, period.

Their technical skills are amazing, as is their organization.  I also like that they play the way they do not out of some aesthetic cultural thing, but because they have to.  They are not going to beat anyone in the air.  The only way they can win is for everyone to be able to pass and score and take advantage of numbers by swarming on defense, and on offense when they can.  It is very hard to be like all swarmy and hustle and yet still have discipline and technical skills and patience.

That's why I'm okay with the Japan-England result.  England didn't deserve to lose, but Japan didn't either.  Maybe in this one game England played better.   But give me Japan's style of play over England's semi-route 1 style (which in THIS game was correct because they had a physical advantage, but they would have been smoked by Germany or US) any day.

I secretly kind of hope Japan beats us, too.  I mean, I like US because I'm a USian and shizz so I can't go so far as to hope we lose. But any neutral should really be rooting for Japan.  It would just be kind of justice if they won.  It means more to them, it is probably better for the sport, and how can you begrudge them?
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Cockney Rebel on July 02, 2015, 04:35:09 AM
"49 years of hurt"
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on July 02, 2015, 04:52:17 PM
I secretly kind of hope Japan beats us, too.  I mean, I like US because I'm a USian and shizz so I can't go so far as to hope we lose. But any neutral should really be rooting for Japan.  It would just be kind of justice if they won.  It means more to them, it is probably better for the sport, and how can you begrudge them?

Why should they get to win 2 World Cups in a row with their boring ass team?

On the other hand, why should we get to win a World Cup with our horrible coach?

When Abby Wambach chased the ball down in the corner that led to the US's 2nd goal on Tuesday v. Germany, I remarked (to nobody because I was the only one who cared) that watching her chase the ball down was like watching a snail.  She was maybe literally half as fast as anyone else on the pitch.  SO SLOW.  I don't know how that led to a goal.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on July 02, 2015, 10:59:04 PM
You think Japan is boring?  huh.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on July 04, 2015, 04:21:12 PM
Yeah, in the same way that a team like the Spurs of the NBA are boring.  They are not really great at any aspect of the game, and they have really good players, but watching a team that is deadly efficient just leaves you wondering how they keep winning rather than admiring their guts.  At least that's the effect they have on me.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on July 06, 2015, 01:13:10 AM
IMO, Japan are amazingly great at every single aspect of the game involving skill.  Whereas Morgan aside, we are pretty mediocre at best at every single aspect of the game involving skill.  We are, however, physical beasts.

I can't fault us for being workout demons; it's what we are good at in the US.  We have the science and we have the money.  Especially when it comes to women as they get better support.

But when it comes to aesthetics, I favor skill over size/strength.  Probably because I have no size or strength myself.

Although Japan did play like total ass in the final and were mildly smelly against England as well, so they didn't really deserve to win.

Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on July 06, 2015, 01:29:38 AM
I cannot recall seeing the first 16 min. of a World Cup Final (men or women) ever unfolding like what we saw tonight. Just amazing. How could Japan leave Carli Lloyd uncovered like that? time and again? Amazing, and an absolute fundamental mistake by the Japanese.

I'm trying to rank this against Brazil-Germany from last year's WC, but the comparison is flawed. For one, it wasn't on Japan's soil, and for another, that was "just" the semi-finals. But either way, the overall feeling was the same: complete "shock and awe".

Also: Japan was suspect in just getting to the final, in my opinion. They were great but never "clearly superior" in the elimination games. Just good enough to advance, time and again.

Also, let's give credit to US coach Jenny Ellis. The team was not good in the early games of the tournament, but she adjusted.

And last but not least, Carli Lloyd was a BEAST in the elimination games.

As a complete aside, did anyone watch the Copa America final? One of the more riveting 0-0 matches in a long time. Once it got to the penalty shoot-out, I just knew Chile would win it.

And now on to the Copa Oro! Team USA starts on Tuesday. What a summer of football!
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on July 06, 2015, 06:53:43 AM
IMO, Japan are amazingly great at every single aspect of the game involving skill.  Whereas Morgan aside, we are pretty mediocre at best at every single aspect of the game involving skill.  We are, however, physical beasts.

"Amazingly great" overstates it a bit.  OK, a lot.

Up until the final, Japan were a team that found ways to win.  That's usually the sign of a team that is good enough to hang with better teams than them skill-wise, but then to find that extra edge either through tactics or determination to put themselves over the top.

Even in the 2011 final, I feel like the US were a better team.

It's hard to judge from this final, given the 4-0 scoreline early.  There, the USA was a team that finally out-"determined" the Japanese.  Once they got over that initial shock, I give Japan a lot of credit for not just going into the tank a la Brazil v. Germany 2014.  They played hard until... almost the end.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on July 06, 2015, 01:07:11 PM
Also, let's give credit to US coach Jenny Ellis. The team was not good in the early games of the tournament, but she adjusted.

By finally using the players and tactics everyone with half a brain knew she should have been using for the last 12 months?

I will give her points for having the guts to change tactics mid-tournament.  But whatever points she gets for that I have to take away for being a complete idiot and painting herself into a corner in the first place.


Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Zafer Kaya on July 06, 2015, 01:26:41 PM
Up until the final, Japan were a team that found ways to win.  That's usually the sign of a team that is good enough to hang with better teams than them skill-wise, but then to find that extra edge either through tactics or determination to put themselves over the top.

It's very hard to win when you cannot really ever play balls in the air.  Every single one of their players has to be able to pass, defend, and dribble.  That's how they won the last WC, although I think they were lucky in the finals as well.

Karli Lloyd, for example, is a rather crappy dribbler.  She can kick the crap out of the ball, though.  Which is why it was insane to try to keep playing her as an attacking mid and try to have her play possession.

I'm at the point where I've realized LeRoux pretty much just sucks.  Even the NWSL managers have all come to realize it, which is why she's played on like 5,000 teams in two years.   Which is hard to do when there are only two teams in the league.  But at least she runs all out, all the time. 

Our advantage is we have the fastest, tallest, strongest, most physically fit players out there.  At every position, everyone can just run forever.  Except for Abby Wambach.  Which is why it was insane to keep starting her.  And why it was also stupid to act like LeRoux's all-out effort counts for anything when every single other player on that team plays all-out too, except some of them don't totally suck.  Or at least not at everything.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on July 06, 2015, 01:58:16 PM
The thing I noticed the most was how Rapinoe disappeared when the US switched tactics.  She looked either gassed or just wasn't getting the opportunities she was in the early part of the tournament.

I also have to agree that LeRoux sucks.  She just looks really stiff out there compared to, say, an Alex Morgan.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on July 07, 2015, 01:32:49 AM
The thing I noticed the most was how Rapinoe disappeared when the US switched tactics.  She looked either gassed or just wasn't getting the opportunities she was in the early part of the tournament.
I also noticed that. It was kind of a surprise she got subbed, but in the bigger picture, it was not.
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: euro60 on July 08, 2015, 10:08:29 AM
So the Gold Cup opened yesterday.

Team USA beat Honduras 2-1, in what was at best a ho-hum affair. Maybe the men's team is wanting to copy what the ladies did last month (start slowly, and get better as the tournament heats up).

There was a LOT of sloppy play, by both teams.

Anyone know why Tim Howard isn't in goal for Team USA?

As an aside, I find the commentators on Fox Sports to be unlistenable and insufferable. Unlike the Women's World Cup last month, the Copa Oro is thankfully available on Univision. Vamos EE UU!!! 
Title: Re: Random Sports Musings
Post by: Butter on July 08, 2015, 11:15:28 AM