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Music => Randomville Torturethon => Topic started by: JohnnyRoyale on September 15, 2008, 09:30:26 AM

Title: NEW Torturethon dates to choose
Post by: JohnnyRoyale on September 15, 2008, 09:30:26 AM
Again, I wasn't trying to confine the t-thon in size for time.
Title: Re: NEW Torturethon dates to choose
Post by: kcneon on September 17, 2008, 10:28:55 AM
4 votes so far - are we going to have enough participation?

Think any of those timeframes would work for me - call me flexible.   ;)
Title: Re: NEW Torturethon dates to choose
Post by: Dan on September 17, 2008, 11:23:16 AM
Yeah, any of those dates work for me, but at the same time i'm kinda spent on this idea at the moment.
Title: Re: NEW Torturethon dates to choose
Post by: JohnnyRoyale on September 17, 2008, 08:19:04 PM
Rafe, foolsgold, rva, ella?   

*sigh* Okay, every year I duck this thing by just contributing because I have a tough time listening to music I hate. But if I decided to participate, would that be any leverage to continue this thing?

I think it's a really unique event and for a great cause, so I'd love to keep the tradition alive. But if it's so small that we only raise $50 bucks, it's really not worth it also...
Title: Re: NEW Torturethon dates to choose
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on September 17, 2008, 10:28:13 PM
I can't see past the end of each week, so I have no idea if I can participate this year. I'm spending most of my days at work in meetings or on the phone, and I'm out of the house on weekends, so it doesn't really lend itself to participating. I'll still try, but I'm thinking November.

I also have no clue what I'd listen to this year. Perhaps the selection of the song could go to the highest bidder or through a small tournament. Something to increase others' participation.

Title: Re: NEW Torturethon dates to choose
Post by: rva on September 18, 2008, 12:08:25 AM
There's really three problems here:

1)  We've all already done it two or three times.  It's an interesting challenge once, just to see what it's like and if you can actually do it.  But now it's just a trial.  I've listened to Paula Cole and Creed.  I just can't think of anything worse that hasn't already been done by someone else.  And we ain't getting any younger.  People have more responsibilities and don't have the time anymore.  Like for me, I rarely have a day at work anymore where I don't have at least one or two meetings and/or a conference call that would require me to stop listening.  I also have to be a lot more focused even at my desk and the torturethon really fucks with my ability to get things done on that particular day.


2)  whigsgeek absolutely owns this event.  Just owns it, man.  She listens the longest, she gets the most donations, she's conscientious about posting updates.  I just can't match that effort.

3)  As a thing for the magazine... I mean what more can we write?  How many ways can you say something sucks?

I don't want to piss on the idea, because I do like that all of us do something for charity and it's a neat little tradition.  But it desperately needs new participants and/or some new twists to it to make it fresh again.  Or we could do just figure out something new to do.  Maybe something that's actually fun?
Title: Re: NEW Torturethon dates to choose
Post by: Dan on September 18, 2008, 09:19:41 AM
I agree with RVA almost to a T.

Other than revelling in the glee that would come from watching MK listen to Journey, I think we could/should at least delay it a year or come up with something new.
Title: Re: NEW Torturethon dates to choose
Post by: kcneon on September 18, 2008, 09:57:06 AM
There was talk of the 3 Imaginary Girls participating - I think that's a great idea, but only if we have good participation within the community, too.  Maybe it's time to think of something new.
Title: Re: NEW Torturethon dates to choose
Post by: rva on September 18, 2008, 11:42:33 AM
Well, if 3 Imaginary Girls are going to do participate it would be a huge boon for the site.  They might also be able to pull in more donors than us as well. We could use the rub.  I'd be up for one more go at it in that case. 

What might be cool is if we put more into the 'zine/production side of it this year instead of it being more of an internal messageboard thing.  Like hype it up in the weeks prior.  Maybe make it more interactive like have one of us do it during the weekend and be available for a live chat.  Have a couple articles prior to the actual event and if someone new is doing it, let them have one of us as a "coach" and they could blog about their "training" and/or other preparation.

Or we could still do something else.
Title: Re: NEW Torturethon dates to choose
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 18, 2008, 11:48:50 AM
I'd like to do it but I rarely manage to get more that a couple of hours in listening to my iPod as it is, I just have too many people calling me, dropping by and pulling me into meetings.
Title: Re: NEW Torturethon dates to choose
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on September 18, 2008, 04:16:34 PM
While trying to fall asleep last night, I was thinking about ways to mix it up a bit. What does the idea of listening to "mainstream" radio for a day sound - picking one of the top stations in the area? I was thinking Top 40 or Country, although it appears the top stations here are Adult Contemporary, Urban, and Urban Adult Contemporary. (Country had been #1 a year ago, but has plummeted in the ratings.)

With the small size of playlists, there should be songs that repeat during a 4 hour window. Plus it would give a lot more to write about - particularly the sad state of today's popular radio.

Checking yes.com, AC would be much more palatable than CHR, so CHR would be more torture. And why is STP's Interstate Love Song the current #10 song on our AOR station?!
Title: Re: NEW Torturethon dates to choose
Post by: va-vacious on September 18, 2008, 06:02:27 PM
Ella, I have no idea what half of those acronyms stand for. :)

I like the idea of something different, like the radio station idea.  And building it up zine wise would be good- it might encourage others to participate.  As far as charity goes, I've got nothing.  Should probably look at last year's suggestions, but am far too lazy.
Title: Re: NEW Torturethon dates to choose
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on September 18, 2008, 06:43:31 PM
Ella, I have no idea what half of those acronyms stand for. :)
AC=Adult Contemporary - (Mix 101.5)
CHR=Current Hits Radio (i.e. Top 40) - (G105)
AOR=Album Oriented Rock - WBBB (96rock)
STP=Stone Temple Pilots (I hope you knew at least this one!)

And in case you were wondering (probably, not), The Penguin is AAA (Adult Album Alternative), also known as Triple A.  Surf 98.3 is Alternative. The triangle has neither of these formats - no wonder I've stopped listening to the radio. - and thus why listening to it would be torture!
Title: Re: NEW Torturethon dates to choose
Post by: JohnnyRoyale on September 18, 2008, 08:08:37 PM
There was talk of the 3 Imaginary Girls participating - I think that's a great idea, but only if we have good participation within the community, too.  Maybe it's time to think of something new.


Have you been in touch with them on this?  Because I haven't. I've actually been kind of ducked by them.

So yesterday I sent out a huge email to newer contributors/friends/family asking if they want in on the t-thon and to post/vote/reply here....and it looks like there was no response.

I agree with all statements said so far. I really wish we could do it each year, but don't want to force something that is stale. I think if we could get 3 Imaginary involved, then yes, it would be worth at least 1 more go. One thing you guys need to keep in mind is that you dont have to do this AT WORK, and with the 2-week timespan proposal, you could do them at home on a weekend (I would have to....my work would never allow it).

As for the radio station idea, I think that's a great one. Pick a genre you hate, and then force yourself to listen to it. EVERY day I'm forced to listen to the Monkey: http://www.funkymonkey1049.fm/main.html at work and I could probably name 5 t-thon songs off the top of my head. (Actually, we're getting better at sharing radio time; baby steps) But yes, they do repeat the same songs, and in LESS than 4 hour rotations. It's terrible.

One hang up is that streaming radio for me, unless I tuned in to FM here in Seattle, would all have to be done with my home computer, which means I can't leave, which ads more torture. 
Title: Re: NEW Torturethon dates to choose
Post by: Cockney Rebel on September 18, 2008, 08:50:37 PM
I think the problem with doing the thon at the weekend is that there's rarely anyone to bounce off because the boards are so dead Saturday & Sunday
Title: Re: NEW Torturethon dates to choose
Post by: trixi on September 18, 2008, 11:55:20 PM
Oh dear, I do know that listening to some of what Ella suggests would drive me crazy.  It's too bad that's not a 24/7 Journey station for MK to listen to. 
Title: Re: NEW Torturethon dates to choose
Post by: Bronzetree on September 19, 2008, 08:17:47 AM
For me, I think the Tthon is something very uniquely us, and I wish there were a way to do it without becoming stale.
Title: Re: NEW Torturethon dates to choose
Post by: Nate on September 21, 2008, 05:38:35 PM
Ask other Internet celebrities if they want to participate?
Any bands/artists who'd want do to do this?
Our Internet affiliates?
Maybe set it up bracket style, where people square off against each other?
Title: Re: NEW Torturethon dates to choose
Post by: JohnnyRoyale on September 22, 2008, 11:56:14 PM
Ask other Internet celebrities if they want to participate?
Any bands/artists who'd want do to do this?
Our Internet affiliates?
Maybe set it up bracket style, where people square off against each other?

I think the bracket thing would be too hard to do, because do we all vote for a winner each time?

I really like the idea of the radio station, but it probably couldn't be done because most would probably have to stream a station online, which would mean being stuck to a computer.

I do like the idea though of asking some band members. We've interviewed/covered plenty that surely we could get some involved, and maybe if we spread the word to the labels that contact us. Also, I know some might not be keen on this, but the woxy boards do have a lot of people on them....what about asking them to participate?
Title: Re: NEW Torturethon dates to choose
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on September 23, 2008, 12:50:52 AM
I really like the idea of the radio station, but it probably couldn't be done because most would probably have to stream a station online, which would mean being stuck to a computer.
Um, I can't stream at work. I still have radios at home, in my car, at my office, and a portable version. This would actually be the easiest to do. My thought was that if someone went that route, they'd listen to one of their local stations using a radio. You know, old school.  :D
Title: Re: NEW Torturethon dates to choose
Post by: Bronzetree on September 23, 2008, 12:55:49 AM
Not that my opinion is the be all end all, but I think anything that makes it cool and fresh again is good. I don't hold any ill will toward WOXY or (most) of its members, so I don't think sniffing around over there is a bad idea. And getting bands involved seems like a no-brainer.
Title: Re: NEW Torturethon dates to choose
Post by: whigsgeek on September 23, 2008, 01:20:09 PM
Question out of curiosity ... Does everyone have to do the same thing? Can some people listen to the radio and others listen to a song?
Title: Re: NEW Torturethon dates to choose
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on September 23, 2008, 03:01:48 PM
Since we're Randomville, I'd think either.
Title: Re: NEW Torturethon dates to choose
Post by: JohnnyRoyale on September 23, 2008, 09:38:59 PM
Question out of curiosity ... Does everyone have to do the same thing? Can some people listen to the radio and others listen to a song?

I think it sounds better to go one way though. Makes it easier for promotion and explaining, maybe a little less confusing.
Title: Re: NEW Torturethon dates to choose
Post by: Nate on September 23, 2008, 11:33:38 PM
Post a thread at the woxy boards, man.  Couldn't hurt.  I can't imagine there'd be some yokel who'd get upset at us because we're doing something for charity.  That would say more about them than us, anyway.

Yeah, maybe the bracket thing would be too hard.  Just trying to think outside of the loop.

As for Internet affiliates, what if we asked people like the guy running MPMF if he'd want to do it?  Or someone from CD Baby?  Or any local DJs in our areas we know?  Maybe the future of this thing is branching out outside of the boards to nab people.
Title: Re: NEW Torturethon dates to choose
Post by: whigsgeek on September 24, 2008, 09:18:55 AM
Quote from: JohnnyRoyale
I think it sounds better to go one way though. Makes it easier for promotion and explaining, maybe a little less confusing.

For me, understanding 2 options wouldn't be as confusing as trying to understand 5 or 6 options, but that's just me.

I'm not as up for the radio station thing, so I'll bow out as a participant this year. But I'll happily sponsor others and provide lots of moral support!
Title: Re: NEW Torturethon dates to choose
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on September 24, 2008, 06:26:28 PM
I didn't think we'd necessarily decided on the radio thing. That was just something I threw out there as a possibility, as I have no clue what individual song to do.
Title: Re: NEW Torturethon dates to choose
Post by: va-vacious on September 24, 2008, 06:29:49 PM
I've got my heart set on listening to the Double Q for a whole day! :P Classic country is where it's AT, doncha know?  (And by "classic" I am of course referring to Garth Brooks and Reba and all of the other recording artists of the early '90s)

I don't have a song, but someone mentioned Clay Aiken, and he might have a torture-iffic tune or two.
Title: Re: NEW Torturethon dates to choose
Post by: whigsgeek on September 24, 2008, 09:42:04 PM
Quote from: Ella Minnow Pea
I didn't think we'd necessarily decided on the radio thing. That was just something I threw out there as a possibility, as I have no clue what individual song to do.

You guys should totally do the radio thing! It sounded like there was energy behind it, and it's something new.
Title: Re: NEW Torturethon dates to choose
Post by: rva on September 24, 2008, 10:30:25 PM
I personally feel like the point is to challenge yourself musically for 8 hours.  If listening to the radio is your particular torture, than do it.  If it's one song, pick that.  If it's comic opera, then do that.  If it's Meatloaf listen to his whole catalog in chronological order.  Auction off the right to pick the torture to the highest bidder-- it's a way for other people to participate who might not have 8 hours to spend.  Celebrity torturers would be an interesting gimmick.

Whatever raises the most money and/or makes for the most amusing story. 

Title: Re: NEW Torturethon dates to choose
Post by: JohnnyRoyale on September 27, 2008, 02:08:23 PM
After thinking about it a little more, I'm more sold on letting them choose. I'll start sending out a flier this weekend and I think I'm going to choose the 2-week span of Oct 20-Nov 2. My vote really doesn't count and only 3 other people voted to do it on other times, none deciding. So unless someone speaks up soon, this will be the time frame.

I'll post it as saying the individual can use a song or radio station, or if they have a more clever idea way to punish themselves musically.

Not long from now, I'll probably close this thread to remove confusion also.