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Title: Dollhouse
Post by: Juliana on February 13, 2009, 03:50:41 PM
Starting this in anticipation that some people here will probably be watching.

I might watch it, I might not. 
It kinda reminds me of LaFemme Nikita a little bit.  The whole super secret spy thing.  They are...spies, right?  I think that they are from the commercials, but I guess I don't know for sure. Maybe a bit Alias too? 

From what I've heard though, it's not very Joss Whedon-y, which...well, what's the point then?
Title: Re: Dollhouse
Post by: c-lando on February 13, 2009, 04:06:09 PM
Is tonight the first night?
Title: Re: Dollhouse
Post by: redbobsled on February 13, 2009, 04:12:01 PM
Yes, it premieres tonight.  I'll be watching (or, er, DVR-ing).  I know someone who has seen it already, and he's kind of up in the air about it.  It sounds like it got a total retooling, and I guess we won't know if that was for the better or not.
Title: Re: Dollhouse
Post by: c-lando on February 13, 2009, 04:29:54 PM
Eliza Dushku!*(!^(*!^$!($!^*)!(^!$()
Yum on a stick!
Title: Re: Dollhouse
Post by: va-vacious on February 13, 2009, 07:20:32 PM
I'll watch online- it comes on the same time as Friday Night Lights, and I am *not* going to miss that! :)

Eliza, etc., are "actives": they can be whatever you want, meaning their personalities are changed to what the person who hires them wants/needs.  It's more prostitution-y than spy-y.  I think.
Title: Re: Dollhouse
Post by: Cockney Rebel on February 14, 2009, 07:58:35 AM
Dushku looked very lickable likeable indeed, but the show STUNK

Dullhouse!
Title: Re: Dollhouse
Post by: redbobsled on February 14, 2009, 02:27:55 PM
It wasn't as good as I had hoped, but I'm definitely willing to give it a chance.  I think I also need not to watch it when I'm tired. 
Title: Re: Dollhouse
Post by: dirk on February 14, 2009, 06:45:17 PM
I thought i was okay.  The biggest problem is that they didn't really know what to do with the negotiator character.  That wanted her to be frumpy, but still hot, and in charge, but still lose it.  They tried for too much and it just didn't quite work.  Plus the ultra-convenient "the bad guy just happens to be the same guy who kidnapped one of the people she was based on".  And it suffered from the typical first episode blues.  With a show like this, there is going to be a lot of explaining that needs to be done, so I don't think it will truly hit it's stride for a few episodes. 

It definitely had promise though. 
Title: Re: Dollhouse
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on February 14, 2009, 07:17:32 PM
I enjoyed seeing the actor who plays Helo.
Title: Re: Dollhouse
Post by: Doug on February 16, 2009, 01:19:25 PM
I tried watching it, but it was so boring I fell asleep.
Title: Re: Dollhouse
Post by: MissKitty on February 16, 2009, 01:50:24 PM
I tried watching it, but it was so boring I fell asleep.
Me too!
Title: Re: Dollhouse
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on March 22, 2009, 11:41:53 PM
This week things definitely picked up. Anyone still watching?
Title: Re: Dollhouse
Post by: dirk on March 23, 2009, 07:02:16 AM
I think my initial assumption that it would take a few episodes before it really hit it stride was right on.  They needed to establish all of the characters and the premise (because it is very different from most other shows) before they could really start getting into the good stuff.  Now that everyone understands the basic characters, they can start getting more into the dollhouse instead of the engagement of the week, which is where the show I think is going to shine.

I really hope the ratings pick up, as I think this show will eventually turn out to have an audience, it juts needs the time to establish itself.
Title: Re: Dollhouse
Post by: Juliana on March 23, 2009, 08:31:49 AM
From what both Joss and Eliza Dukushu (?) said, it really picks up around the 6th episode.  That's when "Joss's infulence really starts to kick in" or something.
Title: Re: Dollhouse
Post by: va-vacious on March 23, 2009, 09:39:13 PM
Maybe because I watched on Hulu and not in real time, but I wasn't totally blown away like I thought I would be. 

I was pretty sure neighbor-lady was a doll for awhile, but was that the big reveal?  And having someone "inside" seems obvious.  At this point I think it's Amy Acker, but I'd be pleased if I were wrong.

And I'm loving Echo's handler! 
Title: Re: Dollhouse
Post by: dirk on March 23, 2009, 10:28:57 PM
I was torn on the neighbor.  MY first thought was that she was a doll.  But then, knowing how much Joss likes to kill characters, I was thought maybe he would juts kill her.

And I REALLY liked the idea of her saying someone was on the inside, because it left it wide open.  They obviously sent her after him, so it could all just be a big plot to make him think there is someone on the inside and back off.  On the flip side, there was the obvious time when Topher wasn't in the room where the imprint could have been corrupted by someone.  I liked the open-endedness of it and the fact it could be used again either way later.
Title: Re: Dollhouse
Post by: va-vacious on March 23, 2009, 10:30:41 PM
Dirk, I totally agree with your second point!  The next few eps will be interesting!
Title: Re: Dollhouse
Post by: va-vacious on May 10, 2009, 09:03:48 PM
Did anyone else make it to the finale?  I want to love this show, I do, but it's not doing it for me. I'll watch it if it comes back, but if it doesn't I'll be ok with that too.  I would like it much, much more without Eliza Dushku- I don't get the fascination with her character by the other characters.  She's not that great.

I saw on TWOP the suggestion that would have made the show MUCH more interesting: Echo/Caroline didn't actually get mind-wiped, so she's pretending to be a doll programmed to be someone else.  In the process, trying to bring down the Dollhouse from the inside.  That would have given the audience a character to be vested in, not a blank slate each week.  I cared more about Topher and Adelle than I did about Echo.
Title: Re: Dollhouse
Post by: dirk on May 10, 2009, 10:32:22 PM
I really like the season.  I agree that they shouldn't have pushed Eliza as the "star" as it was much more of an ensemble show as the season went on.  I think they just needed someone to focus the early episodes around to get the concepts out there, and that's what she was.  By the end, the other characters were as important as Echo (similar to how the Buffy gang was as important as Buffy). 

I think the end of the season was much better than the beginning, but that is exactly what I expected.  Once they started to get into the actual story of the doll house, I thought it was really good.  Some of the big revelations at the end were kind of game changers.  I really hope they get a second season and maybe Fox gets behind the series, since they just let it rot on Fridays once it premiered.
Title: Re: Dollhouse
Post by: Juliana on November 11, 2009, 07:27:03 PM
Don't know if anybody is still watching, but Fox cancelled the show
Title: Re: Dollhouse
Post by: dirk on November 11, 2009, 07:35:38 PM
Because Fox still sucks. 
Title: Re: Dollhouse
Post by: Buzzstein on November 11, 2009, 10:08:27 PM
Goddammit! Fuck you very much Fox!

Bastards...
Title: Re: Dollhouse
Post by: va-vacious on November 12, 2009, 09:41:13 PM
Are they going to show the final 4 episodes? The last one they showed was the best yet.  Argh! It would have been way better without Eliza being the main character- I much prefer her in small doses. I want to know what happened to Dr. Saunders! And I had gotten to the point where I thought Topher was pretty awesome, too. (In a super creepy way, to be true)
Title: Re: Dollhouse
Post by: dirk on November 12, 2009, 09:57:53 PM
Fox said they will show all 13 episodes this season. Of course this being Fox I don;t know how much faith I have in that.  But at the very least, they should all be filmed so they can be available on DVD.
Title: Re: Dollhouse
Post by: scurvygirl on November 13, 2009, 11:31:34 AM
So many expletives were spilled over this. Buncha fucking fuckity fucks. Grrrrr ARGH, indeed!
Title: Re: Dollhouse
Post by: va-vacious on December 13, 2009, 10:42:26 PM
They are certainly going out with a bang.  Just watched Friday's episodes. Good times, indeed. 

I'm glad they got word early enough so that they could wrap things up. I'm enjoying Adelle's descent, and Topher is trying to be redeeming.
Title: Re: Dollhouse
Post by: Poncho on December 14, 2009, 12:22:20 AM
These two double-hour mini-marathons have been twice as strong as anything I've seen so far.

Ol' Joss is such a fan of going out with a bang.
Title: Re: Dollhouse
Post by: Kwyjibo on December 14, 2009, 07:36:50 AM
I'm just glad those gigantic promos for the thing will disappear from the shows I watch.
Title: Re: Dollhouse
Post by: va-vacious on January 19, 2010, 09:01:44 PM
The end is nigh!

I just watched season 1's Epitaph One. Dude, that was messed up.

I love Adelle and Topher's interactions in it- they have changed so much as characters since the beginning. Still very confused over what exactly happened, but it's interesting that they are leading up to this apocolyptic world. And Amy Acker/Whiskey is amazing- she needs her own show.

Cannot wait to see how they make next week's final finale match up with that one.