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Title: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: c-lando on September 06, 2011, 03:58:05 PM
If you have Comcast, you can go ahead and watch NEW GIRL On Demand (DAN dan DAN dan DAN dan DAN!!!!!). I checked it out yesterday and found it to be very uneven and unfunny. But, I might give it one more shot before I totally tune it out.

Any new shows that you folks are looking forward to watching this Fall?
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 06, 2011, 04:02:13 PM
Person of Interest looks interesting.  Mostly because of Michael Emerson.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: dirk on September 06, 2011, 04:03:57 PM
I happened to notice it was on there today and watched it.  It was better than I thought it would be, but from the previews, I was expecting it to be pants.  I'll give it another shot, but like you I found it extremely uneven.  Zooey Deschanel was ok, but the character was just so over the top it was annoying at times.  I do have to say I LOVED the concept of the douchebag jar.  That was pure genius.  But overall it was extremely in the middle.  Some good parts, lots of bad parts.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: cuddlyevil on September 06, 2011, 04:47:52 PM
Terra Nova seems promising, but I'm withholding final judgement until I see the premiere.

Once upon a time looks good.

Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: va-vacious on September 06, 2011, 05:44:14 PM
Just bring back my FRINGE!
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: dirk on September 06, 2011, 05:56:54 PM
If anyone has the Sundance channel, I caught a really interesting show called "Quirky" the other night.  It is a reality show that follows the people who run quirky.com.  They basically take ideas people submit and make products out of them (the people people who came up with the idea taking a part of the profits).  It documents the whole process from the idea getting submitted, drawing up exactly what the idea is going to be, to making prototypes and actually getting the product made.   For example a woman submitted an all in one strainer/bowl with just the idea.  They came up with 3 ideas that she didn't like so they went back and did like 50 more ideas.  They finally decided on one, made a prototype of it from an old bowl just to show the concept.  They then made a real prototype with a 3D printer and then had a guy make a real one from metal.  It's just interesting to see them go through the process of taking just an unformed idea and getting ti to be a complete product that they can sell.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Cockney Rebel on September 06, 2011, 06:01:33 PM
We like Quirky too, even if the woman with her bloody salad strainer was a total bitch!

Looking forward to seeing "The Playboy Club" and "Pan Am" as both are set in the 60's. Determined not to get too attached to anything as I've learned that if it's any damned good the network will probably cancel it within weeks, plus I have too much to watch on Netflix plus the less we watch on regular TV the less we're likely to keep our cable box/DVR in the mid/long term
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Chris on September 06, 2011, 07:27:55 PM
Three words... American Horror Story.

I'll submit to getting the bejeeebus scared out of me in my own home vs. a theater.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on September 06, 2011, 10:31:09 PM
Once Upon a Time is the one I'm looking forward to the most.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Juliana on September 07, 2011, 09:22:25 AM
Just bring back my FRINGE!

No kidding!
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Butter on September 07, 2011, 09:28:35 AM
About nothing.  I am sure we'll probably give a few sitcoms a try, but there's not much I can say I'm looking forward to.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Dan on September 07, 2011, 10:08:44 AM
If you have Comcast, you can go ahead and watch NEW GIRL On Demand (DAN dan DAN dan DAN dan DAN!!!!!). I checked it out yesterday and found it to be very uneven and unfunny. But, I might give it one more shot before I totally tune it out.

Any new shows that you folks are looking forward to watching this Fall?

Is that the one with Zooey?

A) I don't watch TV shows (much)
B) I'm still upset with her treatment of Joseph-Gordon Leavitt (I mean...me) so I don't think I can handle watching that.
C) I'm still upset at her decision to go with Ben Gibbard over me. I mean - really? Did you have to go with my arch-nemesis? Really? There's no one else in the entire WORLD that's not out there?

Sigh. She is dead to me.


But thanks for the heads up. I have Time Warner anyhow.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: c-lando on September 07, 2011, 12:55:11 PM
If you have Comcast, you can go ahead and watch NEW GIRL On Demand (DAN dan DAN dan DAN dan DAN!!!!!). I checked it out yesterday and found it to be very uneven and unfunny. But, I might give it one more shot before I totally tune it out.

Any new shows that you folks are looking forward to watching this Fall?

Is that the one with Zooey?

A) I don't watch TV shows (much)
B) I'm still upset with her treatment of Joseph-Gordon Leavitt (I mean...me) so I don't think I can handle watching that.
C) I'm still upset at her decision to go with Ben Gibbard over me. I mean - really? Did you have to go with my arch-nemesis? Really? There's no one else in the entire WORLD that's not out there?

Sigh. She is dead to me.


But thanks for the heads up. I have Time Warner anyhow.
Oh, Dan. She'd be easy to snag on this show. So, you can pretend that you'd have a chance to bone her.

I thought more people on here would be goofy for RINGER.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: va-vacious on September 07, 2011, 01:06:19 PM
I would be, but I don't get the CW, so I'm not sure if I'll actually get to watch it.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: dirk on September 07, 2011, 01:10:02 PM
Dan - I have TW too and it was on there for me.

I am geeked about Ringer.  First, it's SMG who I really like.  And the concept looks like it could be really interesting.  On the other hand, the concept also looks like it could be REALLY bad if done wrong.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Dan on September 07, 2011, 01:58:16 PM
Alright alright - I'll check it out when I'm bored. Don't know when that'll be ... and I'm not sure if I'm ready for that kind of an emotional roller coaster again.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Dan on September 12, 2011, 03:27:35 PM
I felt like Zooey's character was a bit forced and awkward. I know that she's SUPPOSED to be awkward, but that level or style of awkward wasn't what I mean - her awkward was more like "this couldn't ever really be happening and I don't buy that she's actually like this" awkward.

The roommate characters were also rather, umm, unreal? Normally I would look for these characters to be zany and hilarious, like the supporting characters on Will & Grace (can't remember their names). But these were just not believable. Maybe it's because I'm a single dude who is, give or take, about the same age as them. I've lived with girls before, and I've lived with dudes, and nothing about that show felt like any situation I've ever been in.

Sadly, I might watch another episode or two if they are free and downloadable, but I don't know. Zooey still is pretty cute.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: rva on September 19, 2011, 02:47:32 PM
I may check out Pan Am.  I like Cristina Ricci, I kinda pull for her.

She's also small with gigantic doe eyes and huge forehead so that should pull in the Dan set.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Butter on September 19, 2011, 02:52:43 PM
I actually enjoyed UP ALL NIGHT.  Probably in the minority.  Maya Rudolph was almost too good at playing an Oprah clone, while I just generally enjoy watching people struggle with parenthood. 
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Dan on September 19, 2011, 03:02:46 PM
I read a quick review in the Times yesterday about how there's new TV banking on the female perspective of comedy and all that. I was really interested because they talk about Zooey and "The New Girl" but also because there's a new show called "2 Broke Girls" or something like that with Kat Dennings. I fell in love with Ms. Dennings after watching "Nick & Norah's Infinite Playlist" (plus she was in "Thor," which I just saw) so I was intrigued about her new work.

Sadly, the review says that she's great in it but she's surrounded with mediocre writing and unoriginal gags. The review did not seem confident that the show would be around for very long.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: rva on September 19, 2011, 03:27:08 PM
Yeah, I'm not surprised to hear that 2 Broke Girls sucks.  Whitney Cummings is not funny at all.  I'm sure "Whitney" sucks as well.

I'm pulling for Up All Night because all three of the leads... but I've also seen them in too much crap to watch it right now.  I'm gonna wait a couple eps and if people are raving about then I'll take the plunge.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Butter on September 19, 2011, 03:42:34 PM
Whitney Cummings is not funny at all.  I'm sure "Whitney" sucks as well.

I was shocked to see that not only did they give her a show, but they gave her the vanity title as well.  Is she really that well thought of?  News to me.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: va-vacious on September 19, 2011, 03:56:28 PM
I saw part of "Up all Night" and liked it- I could definitely watch it. I also kind of liked the Hank Azaria sit-com, but I don't remember its name or what station it's on. Not very promising.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: cuddlyevil on September 19, 2011, 04:03:51 PM
I keep wondering how long Terra Nova will stick around. It seems like it has super high production costs and it's on Fox which is, well, Fox.

Whitney Cummings is not funny at all.  I'm sure "Whitney" sucks as well.

I was shocked to see that not only did they give her a show, but they gave her the vanity title as well.  Is she really that well thought of?  News to me.

I have no idea who she is, but the ads for the show are painful to watch.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Dan on September 19, 2011, 04:42:24 PM
Re: Terra Nova. I hear that their pilot had massive production costs, and therefore the longer that the show is on air, the more they can cook-the-books so that episodes costs are reduced. You know, they divide the cost over the course the entire series so it looks more financially viable. I'm sure the individual episode costs are high, too, but not as much as the pilot.

This all means that they are definitely going to let it run for awhile before finally giving up on it.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: kcneon on September 19, 2011, 06:31:20 PM

I have no idea who she is, but the ads for the show are painful to watch.

Incredibly painful.  This made it thru pilot season?
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Juliana on September 19, 2011, 09:55:59 PM
I liked Up All Night too.  I thought it was really smart and funny.
We also liked the Hank Azaria show, Free Agents.
Both had a lot of funny lines.  Excited to see what happens after the pilot.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: cuddlyevil on September 20, 2011, 08:16:30 AM
Caught 5 minutes of the new ideration of two and a half men--it was five minutes too many. Painful.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Poolio on September 20, 2011, 08:22:18 AM
Caught 5 minutes of the new iteration of two and a half men--it was five minutes too many. Painful.

Edited for me.  ;)

Yeah, I had only caught a few episodes of the "Sheen years" and never really got it but really didn't understand how Ashton was going to improve on it. I have a feeling this fall is going to be a crapshoot with new shows. The great ones won't last and the crappy ones will have legs.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Dan on September 20, 2011, 05:09:13 PM
I keep wondering how long Terra Nova will stick around. It seems like it has super high production costs and it's on Fox which is, well, Fox.

Sourcity Source (http://espn.go.com/espn/page2/story/_/id/6993005/tmq-says-lack-offseason-practice-reason-gaudy-passing-numbers#terra)

Gregg Easterbrook offers some random thoughts about Terra Nova....

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If Only We Could Time-Travel to 1966, When "Star Trek" Premiered: Fox is saying its sci-fi series "Terra Nova," which premieres on Monday, is the most expensive television show ever made.

The premise: In the year 2149, environmental problems place humanity on the verge of extinction. No stardrive has been invented, so people can't flee to other worlds. But time travel has become possible. A group of plucky settlers is sent 85 million years into the past to "restart civilization" as kind and good, so the extinction scenario of 2149 never happens. But -- though possessed with the ultra-sophisticated knowledge necessary to build a time machine -- scientists of the future forget that 85 million years ago, there were dinosaurs. The travelers emerge from the time portal to a settlement surrounded by killer dinosaurs, and the show becomes what Hollywood likes best, a succession of chase scenes.

Recently the networks have given viewers big-budget sci-fi series "V," "Flash Forward" and "The Event." The common elements: lots of money was sunk into production, lots of overpaid people with connections were listed as producers, and terrible writing. All three were financial fiascos. "Star Trek," "Stargate" and "Dr. Who," TV's moneymaking sci-fi franchises, do have special effects, but the emphasis is on plot, story and sense of humor. The sci-fi audience is smart and seeks these things, reflecting the fact that well-written sci-fi series make money while poorly written sci-fi series lose money. But modern Hollywood hates the notion that shows should be well-written. This sets the bar too high! Modern Hollywood wants to believe the television audience is composed entirely of fools. So viewers get explosions and drek, while the networks' shareholders don't get ratings. Why doesn't actual experience make it obvious to television executives that well-written sci-fi shows earn returns and poorly written shows do not?

Now about "Terra Nova." Even if, in the year 2149, everyone somehow forgot that dinosaurs once existed, why would the people be sent 85 million years into the past? That's an unimaginable span, about 17,000 times as long as the period between the present and the construction of the Great Pyramid at Giza. Supposing the plucky group did "restart civilization" that far back in the past, after 85 million years had gone by, their civilization might have vanished, or its people have evolved into a form unrecognizable to us.

If heading into the past made sense, the place to go to restart civilization would be 15,000 years ago -- when the last ice age was ending and the Holocene beginning. The world of 15,000 years ago would be recognizable to people of the 22nd century, and near enough in time that any better society they created might last into the present.

Another silliness, noted by reader G L Crosslin of Biloxi, Miss.,: The "Terra Nova" expedition is going back to a point before the mass extinction that wiped out the dinosaurs, when our world was struck by an enormous comet that ended much of life on Earth. Wouldn't you rather materialize after that nasty business concluded?

Other time travel premise problems:

Suppose it is possible to travel into the past and change things. If so at the instant you step into the time machine, any changes you caused already happened long ago, and the present would already be transformed. The instant the first settlers stepped into the "Terra Nova" time machine, whatever impact they were going to have they've already had. The year 2149 would already be a result of their past impact. [Dan's note: Michael Crichton's novel "Sphere" dealt with this to some extent]

If people emerged from a time portal in the past, they wouldn't forget how they got there. They might conclude that unless the Earth of 2149 was falling apart from pollution, the time machine would never be built, they would never be sent back, so they would cease to exist. Therefore they would have to conspire to ensure that human history unfolded in such a way as to cause calamity in 2149. Maybe the whole reason the world of 2149 needs a time machine is that a prior world of 2149 had a time machine!

These kinds of paradoxes are among the reasons time travel is almost surely impossible on a physical basis. Beyond that, the big objection to time travel is not how the time machine would function. The big objection is that even if you had a time machine, where would it travel to?

In order for your time machine to open a doorway 85 million years in the past, there must be another complete universe, with another Earth and another 100 billion galaxies, suspended forever in the moment of 85 million years earlier. If you jumped instead 84 million years into the past, there must be a third complete universe, with another 100 billion galaxies, except it's 84 million years earlier. If you wanted to use the time machine to go back to yesterday, there must be a fourth complete universe, with yet another 100 billion galaxies, suspended forever in yesterday. Jump to last week? A fifth complete extra universe is required.

For your time machine to jump to different years in the past or future, there must be billions, even an infinite number of different universes -- each with 100 billion galaxies, each suspended forever in a different instant. OK, I cannot prove there are not an infinite number of universes, each suspended forever in a slightly different moment. But unless there are, a time machine would have no destination to which to travel.

Reader Al Vyssotsky of Greenville, S.C., adds another complication: "The solar system is rotating around the galactic center at approximately 43,000 miles per hour. Thus if a person were to travel back in time, he or she would wind up many billions of miles from Earth's position in the past. Our Milky Way galaxy is moving at 1.3 million miles per hour or about two-tenths of the speed of light, in the direction of the constellation Hydra. This suggests that even a short time-travel trip would place the traveler trillions of miles from Earth's position in the past. Going backward 85 million years, as is depicted in "Terra Nova," would result in being about 170,000 light years from Earth's position at that time. That distance is roughly twice the diameter of the galaxy. So you'd need to bring along quite a starship with you through the time machine."
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Kenneth Toilethole on September 20, 2011, 08:32:00 PM
Just repeat to yourself its just a show, I should really just relax.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Dan on September 21, 2011, 09:56:44 AM
Haha. Yeah, but that's Easterbrook's style I guess. I think he offers some good points, but 90% of them are the types of points that make me chuckle to myself about how absurd it is but then I don't care anyway. He's right - the premise is a little silly. But hey, if Fox wants to do that then Fox wants to do that. I don't care.

The concept of sending your settlers back 85 million years and is thus pre-comet disaster sounds dumb, but if you think about how long 20 million years is... it's not like the civilization has much chance of surviving that long anyway. Of course, if that's the case then sending them back to restart so in 2149 they can be okay is even dumber. But meh, whatever.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Poolio on September 21, 2011, 10:45:04 AM
Of course, if that's the case then sending them back to restart so in 2149 they can be okay is even dumber. But meh, whatever.
Provided no one steps on a bug or kills a dinosaur and screws up the future.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Butter on September 21, 2011, 11:28:27 AM
Yes, sending people back 85 million years is so ridiculously far, that the chances that those people would go extinct before they even had the chance to meaningfully change anything is probably pretty high.

It's just an excuse to get some dinos to chase some people around for a while.  I guess someone still thinks the Jurassic Park series had some untapped potential.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Juliana on September 21, 2011, 12:29:13 PM
Do they mean to go back that far, or is it an accident like in back to the future?
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: MissKitty on September 21, 2011, 02:41:54 PM
I haven't seen it, but from the descriptions it sounds like an updated version of Land of the Lost.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Cockney Rebel on September 21, 2011, 05:17:09 PM
Watching "New Girl" as I type

Little more than DanPorn really. Tried FAR too hard to be funny and failed miserably.

Reminded me of "Always Sunny in Philadelphia" in that respect
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Dan on September 21, 2011, 05:26:25 PM
Watching "New Girl" as I type

Little more than DanPorn really. Tried FAR too hard to be funny and failed miserably.

Reminded me of "Always Sunny in Philadelphia" in that respect

Mmmmmmmm, DanPorn.....
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 23, 2011, 08:06:57 AM
Whitney was beyond not being funny.  Absolutely terrible.  Perhaps if they hadn't already aired every single joke 500 times in promos it would have been slightly better, but not much since the "live studio audience's" constant laughter made it unbearable to sit through.

Had I known going into it that she had previously had something to do with Chelsea Handler and her extremely unfunny empire I never would have bothered.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: c-lando on September 23, 2011, 08:11:15 AM
I didn't hate 2 BROKE GIRLS. I'll probably watch another episode, at least, to see what they do beyond the pilot.
Already deleted the season pass for THE PLAYBOY CLUB. Rubbish.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: cuddlyevil on September 23, 2011, 09:13:11 AM
Person of interest wasn't bad. I'm not totally sold on it, but I can see it being a solid part of the line-up.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: MissKitty on September 23, 2011, 12:29:56 PM
the "live studio audience's" constant laughter made it unbearable to sit through.
I refuse to watch shows with canned laughter. It's like the producers think the viewers are too stupid to know what is funny and what isn't. If the show is REALLY filmed before a live studio audience (do they even do this anymore?) that's different, but for them to "sweeten" the show with canned laughter really works my last nerve.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 23, 2011, 01:17:32 PM
They claimed it was a live audience (she even made a point of saying "Really!" after that was said), but unless they were pumping laughing gas in through the ventilation system I can't imagine what those people thought was so funny.  Even if it had been funny this would have been an unrealistic amount of laughter.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Poolio on September 23, 2011, 03:00:50 PM
They claimed it was a live audience (she even made a point of saying "Really!" after that was said), but unless they were pumping laughing gas in through the ventilation system I can't imagine what those people thought was so funny.  Even if it had been funny this would have been an unrealistic amount of laughter.
Well, I am sure the audience was prompted to laugh.

Or they were all drunk.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: rva on September 23, 2011, 03:58:29 PM
Had I known going into it that she had previously had something to do with Chelsea Handler and her extremely unfunny empire I never would have bothered.

Really--  That's what it takes? While I agree that Chelsea Handler is not funny and you were right to be skeptical of Whitney Cummings because of that, that was far from your only clue, my friend.

There was the horribly unfunny trailer.  And ad.  And four of us talking on this very board about how unfunny her and her trailer and her show looked.  Did you not see the ads?

Look, she's in a French maid outfit, but her man just wants her to iron the clothes!  I BET NO ONE HAS EVER THOUGHT OF THAT BEFORE!!!!  Hey, where's rappin' granny?

 
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: c-lando on September 23, 2011, 04:08:50 PM

Look, she's in a French maid outfit, but her man just wants her to iron the clothes!  I BET NO ONE HAS EVER THOUGHT OF THAT BEFORE!!!!  Hey, where's rappin' granny?

GSPoTD, you greedy S.O.B.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 23, 2011, 04:18:20 PM
Had I known going into it that she had previously had something to do with Chelsea Handler and her extremely unfunny empire I never would have bothered.

Really--  That's what it takes? While I agree that Chelsea Handler is not funny and you were right to be skeptical of Whitney Cummings because of that, that was far from your only clue, my friend.

There was the horribly unfunny trailer.  And ad.  And four of us talking on this very board about how unfunny her and her trailer and her show looked.  Did you not see the ads?


Well, you've got me dead to rights.  Julie wasn't exactly sold on watching it either.  However, if I avoided everything that someone on R'ville said was crap I would never watch anything, would I?  Somehow I saw potential in the trailers assuming that what they were airing would not turn out to be THE ENTIRE FIRST EPISODE.  Ten minutes into the episode there was still nothing, LIT-rally nothing that had not been in a promo.  I dunno, the thing about not wearing a hoodie and then not wearing white to a wedding... that was sorta funny, her ending up wearing the same color as the bride anyway... that was sorta funny.  The trashy outfits... well, that was dumb.  Taken in spurts I thought somehow it had potential, and was wrong.  The Chelsea Handler connection combined with your hatred probably would have done it but somehow I didn't see the forest for the trees.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: rva on September 23, 2011, 06:25:32 PM
Well I also hate those Kartell ghost chairs they used in the reception scene, but I don't think they have them on Chelsea Lately.

So why don't you buy some at $300 a pop and then post about how disappointed you are in them after someone ends up seeing someone's nuts?
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Poolio on September 27, 2011, 07:52:08 AM
Okay, from what I saw of Terra Nova last night it looks okay. And they answered my question, it's a "different time stream" so they can get away with killing stuff and not changing the future.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: cuddlyevil on September 27, 2011, 08:21:51 AM
I missed the first 30 minutes (can't miss HIMYM), but I got sucked in fairly quickly last night. It could go in some interesting directions, but it could also head to suckville pretty quickly.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Juliana on September 27, 2011, 08:49:18 AM
We taped Terra Nova, haven't watched it yet though.  We did watch half the Singoff last night, so we'll finish that up tonight and then watch TN.

What are you guys thinking on Prime Suspect?


Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: cuddlyevil on September 27, 2011, 09:08:59 AM
I tried watching it, but it just didn't suck me in like I hoped.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: c-lando on September 27, 2011, 09:18:38 AM
I missed the first 30 minutes (can't miss HIMYM), but I got sucked in fairly quickly last night. It could go in some interesting directions, but it could also head to suckville pretty quickly.
Loooooooooooooooooved last night's HIMYM. Instant classic.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Juliana on September 27, 2011, 09:46:32 AM
I tried watching it, but it just didn't suck me in like I hoped.

We're about 20 minutes in.
I want to love it, since I've given up SVU this year.  I need my weekly quota of cop shows to be met. 
But... not in love so far.  it's good, but we'll see.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Cockney Rebel on September 27, 2011, 10:57:29 AM
We quite liked "Person of Interest" but I'll be intrigued to see how the storyline holds up after a handful of episodes. Michael Emerson's part is tailor-made for him though isn't it?

"PanAm" was easy on the eye (the actress who plays Collette is destined for my "and..." list I reckon?!) but the storyline was somewhat ploppy and soap opera-ish. I reckon it will quickly descend into "Desperate Housewives" territory and then become unwatchable. The period is captured well and try as I did I didn't notice any obvious glaring anachronisms. This show must cost a lot of money to make. Is it worth it? Hmmm.... not sure. I'll give it another couple of weeks maybe.

As an aside, we watched one of the original Aussie episodes of "Wilfred" at the weekend (c/o IFC). Looks like one of the rare occasions where an American remake is actually TONS funnier and better done. I don't think we laughed once in the first 10 minutes - very disappointing. You have to say that someone somewhere saw something in the show that wasn't evident to make it into a US smash hit for FX.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Cockney Rebel on September 27, 2011, 05:55:16 PM
Terra NOva

20 minutes.

Pants.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Cockney Rebel on September 27, 2011, 08:49:16 PM
The Playboy Club

*drool*

Lots to look at here.

Might as well enjoy it before it gets cancelled
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: va-vacious on September 27, 2011, 10:29:40 PM
Watched part of The New Girl tonight. I am definitely not a Zooey fan. Back to Veronica Mars!
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Kenneth Toilethole on September 29, 2011, 07:58:38 AM
I don't know if anyone else has been watching the Discovery Channel's 'Curiosity' (and I'm guessing the answer is no), but its been pretty good. Last week's episode of how the Thera eruption may have just about wiped the Minoans off the map and led to the rise of the Atlantis story from Plato was pretty interesting. Some other highlights were Hawking's explanation of how the universe "began" and a possible scenario of how an alien life form would attack Earth. Now granted, there's pretty much no difference between it and NOVA and a couple episodes have been of no interest to me, but for the most part I've been digging it.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 29, 2011, 08:09:30 AM
I wanted to stab every single character in Suburgatory in the face, in the face, within the first five minutes.  Mercifully Julie turned it off instead of pressing on.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: c-lando on September 29, 2011, 08:13:56 AM
I wanted to stab every single character in Suburgatory in the face, in the face, within the first five minutes.  Mercifully Julie turned it off instead of pressing on.
OH NO!!!! I recorded it because I thought I would enjoy it. Plus, JEREMY SISTO!!! Ugh.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 29, 2011, 08:18:51 AM
Your mileage will vary I'm sure, JS was a glaring exception, I guess maybe I didn't want to stab him in the face but LIT-rally everybody else was extremely obnoxious.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: cuddlyevil on September 29, 2011, 08:30:30 AM
I wanted to stab every single character in Suburgatory in the face, in the face, within the first five minutes.  Mercifully Julie turned it off instead of pressing on.

Thank God it wasn't just me that had this reaction. My eyes nearly rolled out of my head at the narration--and I only caught the last few minutes.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Juliana on September 29, 2011, 08:43:33 AM
I wanted to like it.
I didn't hate it, but I also didn't like it enough to keep on with it
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 29, 2011, 04:02:22 PM
My eyes nearly rolled out of my head at the narration--and I only caught the last few minutes.

Dear God, yes.  The narration was horrible.  If I was Jeremy Sisto I would have slapped that smart ass kid's teeth out of her mouth.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Buzzstein on September 29, 2011, 06:34:09 PM
Terra NOva

20 minutes.

Pants.

Wow. This is laughably bad.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Poncho on September 29, 2011, 08:15:17 PM
I have yet to see a new show this year that doesn't suck.

I haven't watched THAT MANY but I've seen 6-8 of them.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 30, 2011, 08:11:18 AM
Not new, are others still watching The Office?  They've stepped up their game this year.  Last night's ep was particularly good.  Putting Ed Helms in the boss's chair was a stroke of genius.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Juliana on September 30, 2011, 08:43:11 AM
NBC still has such a good Thursday night comedy lineup, Whitney, of course, excluded.

My money still says Parks & Rec is the best of the Thursday night shows though. 

Ron!  Your mustache fell off!

Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: c-lando on September 30, 2011, 09:41:14 AM
I wanted to like it.
I didn't hate it, but I also didn't like it enough to keep on with it
I can see where it wants to go. I'll give it another episode or two to get there.
Jeremy Sisto ain't hurting its chances of staying on my rotation. :)
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: cuddlyevil on October 04, 2011, 01:08:27 PM
It appears Playboy Club has been canceled.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/10/04/playboy-club-cancelled/ (http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/10/04/playboy-club-cancelled/)
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Kwyjibo on October 04, 2011, 01:16:19 PM
The most shocking thing in that article is that bit at the end about Whitney getting picked for a full season run.  What?  Who the fuck is watching that shite?
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: rva on October 04, 2011, 01:31:21 PM
It was NBC's highest rated new comedy show this fall.  That's what following The Office, Parks and Rec., and Community will do for you.  You have to be REALLY, REALLY bad to fail.  Like Outsourced bad.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Kwyjibo on October 04, 2011, 01:43:42 PM
Outsourced was better.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Cockney Rebel on October 04, 2011, 02:37:33 PM
The most shocking thing in that article is that bit at the end about Whitney getting picked for a full season run.  What?  Who the fuck is watching that shite?
I guess she uses her 3-knob gob to full effect?

I knew The Playboy Club would get canceled. Like "Swingtown" before it it was just the wrong side of racy to be on a mainstream - read 'prudish' - channel. It begs the queston why they commissioned it to start with? And, like "Swingtown", I won't hold out any hope for one of the cable networks to pick it up and keep it going... maybe with a little more nudity for good luck.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Dan on October 04, 2011, 03:50:38 PM
I posted one of his articles about Terra Nova, so here's a link to his next one:

Gregg Easterbrook really doesn't seem to like Terra Nova. (http://espn.go.com/espn/page2/story/_/id/7056133/tmq-says-nfl-comebacks-losing-team-lost-lead#terra)
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Poncho on October 05, 2011, 08:29:53 PM
Outsourced >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whitney

Wow, was that horrid.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Chris on October 06, 2011, 12:58:56 PM
American Horror Story didn't disappoint me last night. Yay!

I could've done with less Dylan Mcdermott naked ass and masturbating, but Jessica Lange made up for it in spades and it was actually disturbing.

Thumbs up for episode 1 at least.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Poolio on October 06, 2011, 01:25:39 PM
American Horror Story didn't disappoint me last night. Yay!
Gah! I totally missed it. I forgot it was last night. Stupid brain.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: c-lando on October 06, 2011, 02:40:06 PM
American Horror Story didn't disappoint me last night. Yay!

I could've done with less Dylan Mcdermott naked ass and masturbating, but Jessica Lange made up for it in spades and it was actually disturbing.

Thumbs up for episode 1 at least.
x2.
It was as effed up as it promised to be. I had to start thinking about my friend's newborn daughter in order to clear my head of the messed up stuff that happened during just the first episode. Sheesh.
Connie Britton was also fantastic. I never watched FNL so I don't know much about her as an actress. But, she was giving us the goods with her performance.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Butter on October 12, 2011, 01:21:07 PM
The new Tim Allen sitcom was awful.  Not that I expected it not to be, but it was worse than I even imagined.

American Horror Story went a little far in its opening episode... they crammed a lot into that first hour and it could go downhill into complete silliness pretty quickly.  But I agree with c-lando, they've got Connie Britton there to kinda hold it together.  She was great in it.  Everybody else was a bit far into camp.  I'll stick with it for this season and see what happens, most likely.  I like the atmosphere they have built, and it is definitely creepy though.  So I'll give it credit for that.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: dirk on October 12, 2011, 02:46:04 PM
I thought American Horror Story did a great job with the fright, but overall, I have no idea what happened.  Nothing seemed to make much sense.  The twins were obviously killed by something, but from then on the house just made people go crazy?  And the kid who is "dating" the daughter isn't involved in any way, yet seems to have a firm grasp on what is going on.  Overall, i think they concentrated on the scare factor and left out the sense factor.  Hopefully things will start to fall in place fast, because it has a lot of potential, but being scary with making any sense will only take them so far.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Butter on October 12, 2011, 03:11:04 PM
I don't think it was supposed to make much sense.  There are a lot of questions to be answered, and I'm sure for the showrunners they hope for 7-8 seasons to answer them.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: cuddlyevil on October 13, 2011, 09:06:43 AM
How to be a Gentleman got canceled, this did not surprise me--it was painful to watch.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Poolio on October 24, 2011, 08:41:21 AM
Did anyone watch "Once upon a time" last night? I was driving home from Cinci so I caught the last few minutes. Is it worth my time to go to the On Demand menu and watch the whole thing?
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: c-lando on October 24, 2011, 10:45:30 AM
Did anyone watch "Once upon a time" last night? I was driving home from Cinci so I caught the last few minutes. Is it worth my time to go to the On Demand menu and watch the whole thing?
I recorded it but I haven't watched it yet. I'll report back.

I think I have deleted almost all of the new shows from my Season Pass schedule. I liked a few things for one episode but nothing made it past the pilot EXCEPT for Revenge. Loooooooooooooooooving it. I had expected to hate it but find myself drawn in. Almost all of the episodes seem to be On Demand still, except for the pilot.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: cuddlyevil on October 24, 2011, 11:19:52 AM
The tv critic on ew.com this Once upon a time is too Grimm for its own good, take that how you will (probably means it's good).

I found myself mildly sucked into hart of dixie last week--I was sober so I have no real explanation for it beyond possible boredom.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: va-vacious on October 24, 2011, 05:19:01 PM
I haven't gotten sucked in to any new shows this season, and have forgotten most of the old shows I did watch (Raising Hope, for example, which I loved last year). I do need to watch Ringer with Jason Dohring showing up in it. It's a shame, because I was really looking forward to the new season of everything, and I'm watching not much instead.

And I'm pretty sure I'd love Grimm and Once Upon a Time. Maybe I'll catch them... if I can remember when they are on.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Poolio on October 24, 2011, 06:33:59 PM

And I'm pretty sure I'd love Grimm and Once Upon a Time. Maybe I'll catch them... if I can remember when they are on.
Grimm starts on Friday (I think) so you haven't missed it. Once upon a time is Simpson's adjacent.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: va-vacious on October 24, 2011, 07:01:50 PM
Excellent! These are things I can remember.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on October 24, 2011, 08:44:50 PM
I liked Once Upon a Time, but I kept getting Ginnifer Goodwin and Jennifer Morrison confused (I wasn't sure if Jennifer started as a brunette and then became a blonde. I finally figured it out.)
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Butter on November 01, 2011, 08:08:09 AM
I thought American Horror Story did a great job with the fright, but overall, I have no idea what happened.  Nothing seemed to make much sense.  The twins were obviously killed by something, but from then on the house just made people go crazy?  And the kid who is "dating" the daughter isn't involved in any way, yet seems to have a firm grasp on what is going on.  Overall, i think they concentrated on the scare factor and left out the sense factor.  Hopefully things will start to fall in place fast, because it has a lot of potential, but being scary with making any sense will only take them so far.

I thought this show would slow down and settle in, but if anything, they just keep throwing stuff at the wall every week.  Fascinating, well-constructed stuff... but still, a lot of STUFF.  I don't know if they will ever be able to make sense of it all, but as long as I am enjoying it I guess it doesn't really matter. 

Yet.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Poolio on November 01, 2011, 08:49:25 AM
I liked Once Upon a Time, but I kept getting Ginnifer Goodwin and Jennifer Morrison confused (I wasn't sure if Jennifer started as a brunette and then became a blonde. I finally figured it out.)

I managed to catch up on it (with a brief Treehouse of Horror break) and I think I'm hooked. I was a little unsure after watching the first episode but after the second episode it started to make more sense to me.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: dirk on November 01, 2011, 11:32:37 AM
Once Upon a Time has really taken off I think.  I had no idea what to expect, as I just checked it out because I knew Jane Espenson was involved.  But the first 2 episodes have been incredibly good; a perfect melding of the childhood fairy tales and adult themes.  Although whoever decided that Ginnifer Goodwin should have that haircut needs to be shot.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Butter on November 15, 2011, 12:30:07 PM
This sort of half belongs here:

NBC pulling Community and Prime Suspect from schedule on "temporary" basis. (http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/14/nbc-overhauls-prime-time-benching-community-and-prime-suspect/)

In positive news, this means 30 Rock will return in January, but I think we already knew that was coming back.

In negative news, they pull Community but only give an alternate time slot to Whitney.  Ew.


Up All Night
now added to Thursday night as of January.  I like that show, might be the only new show I've stuck with (aside from American Horror Story, and Andrea is watching Once Upon a Time).
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: MissKitty on November 15, 2011, 12:37:27 PM
CR and I really like Person of Interest, which means it will probably be cancelled.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Jen on November 15, 2011, 12:46:18 PM
I signed the petition to keep Community; one of the smartest comedies on primetime so booooo NBC execs! I tried Whitney once (because Mark added it to the line up to try) and I thought it was stupid. The other show of hers isn't much better either (two broke girls or something like that).
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 15, 2011, 01:06:35 PM
Public outcry worked for The Office, maybe it will for Community as well.  I wish we could get to a point where these kinds of shows could get made and shown without the networks but I'm sure that's a long time off.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: va-vacious on November 15, 2011, 04:06:59 PM
I've been watching Community on the computer this year, and I really like it.

I also picked up Grimm this year-- don't like Once Upon a Time, though. Probably because I can't really tell the difference between Jennifer Morrison and Ginnifer Godwin.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: c-lando on November 15, 2011, 04:59:45 PM
I looooooooooooooooooooooove Community. But, I know it hasn't grabbed the viewership that they have wanted. I hope they do bring it back. It's super-fantastic.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: rva on November 15, 2011, 05:35:59 PM
What the hell is up with Britta's rack this year?  It started with Annie last year, but now both her and Annie always have some awesome boob action going every show.  Not that I mind, necessarily..  but did Gillian Jacobs demand equal rack time or something?
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: kcneon on November 15, 2011, 06:20:12 PM
Once Upon a Time has really taken off I think.  I had no idea what to expect, as I just checked it out because I knew Robert Carlyle was involved.  But the first 2 episodes have been incredibly good; a perfect melding of the childhood fairy tales and adult themes.  Although whoever decided that Ginnifer Goodwin should have that haircut needs to be shot.

fix'd

It's not as high on my list as say a "Heroes" or "Detroit 1-8-7", but one of those that I really want to know what happens next.  :)
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: MissKitty on November 15, 2011, 07:26:22 PM
I miss Detroit 187. :(
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: rva on November 16, 2011, 02:26:34 AM
Ugh.  They need to keep Community on the air if only to keep Donald Glover busy.  Because this Childish Gambino album is TERRIBLE.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Butter on November 16, 2011, 07:53:50 AM
Didn't mean to imply that Community was cancelled, because I think Sony has made it clear they want the show to survive to syndication episodic numbers (usually 4 seasons).  I am pretty confident that it will be back sometime in the spring. 

I was hopeful they would try it after The Office, if only to try and find a show that can fill its space, because Office needs to be put down... badly.  But as of now they seem content to keep that flailing show on the air as long as it pulls ratings.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: c-lando on November 16, 2011, 08:36:13 AM
What the hell is up with Britta's rack this year?  It started with Annie last year, but now both her and Annie always have some awesome boob action going every show.  Not that I mind, necessarily..  but did Gillian Jacobs demand equal rack time or something?
HAHAHAAHAH. In Hollywood, I'm sure that's a common demand.

I've heard people ranting and raving about that Childish Gambino album but I can't get behind Glover's flow. The one song I watched him perform on LJNF made me think he was trying WAAAAAAAAAAAY too hard to sound like Lil Wayne. That is SO not what I want from him. But, maybe that's the only track that sounds like that? I'm not sure. I would think that he would have some very clever lyrics. So, I am intrigued enough to give it a listen, but I'm not expecting much.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Butter on November 16, 2011, 09:47:27 AM
I've heard people ranting and raving about that Childish Gambino album but I can't get behind Glover's flow. The one song I watched him perform on LJNF

Late Jight with Nimmy Fallon?
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 16, 2011, 09:51:56 AM
Late Jimmy Night Fallon?
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: c-lando on November 16, 2011, 10:18:18 AM
LNJF. Sheesh.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: rva on November 16, 2011, 11:18:19 AM
Really?  See, I'm really enjoying this season of the office.

I like Andy as boss, because while he's kind of a screw-up he TRIES to do the right thing, and the employees generally like him.  Steve Carrell was just stupidly whacky the last three or four seasons.  I also really like James Spader as the uber-boss.  Because he's totally intimidating and weird, and yet he's super-competent with the mindgames and gets stuff done.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 16, 2011, 11:25:12 AM
What RVA said.

I will say that I don't like the way they've turned Erin into a complete nincompoop.  I mean, yeah, she's an airhead and that works... but the whole thing last week with Andy wanting her to feign an important call and her thinking it was appropriate for the fake call to be the police calling to tell him his mother was dead was ridiculous.  It was uncomfortable comedy, which is what they were going for, but they could find ways to do that without being unrealistic to that degree.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: rva on November 16, 2011, 11:27:10 AM
What the hell is up with Britta's rack this year?  It started with Annie last year, but now both her and Annie always have some awesome boob action going every show.  Not that I mind, necessarily..  but did Gillian Jacobs demand equal rack time or something?
HAHAHAAHAH. In Hollywood, I'm sure that's a commond demand.

I've heard people ranting and raving about that Childish Gambino album but I can't get behind Glover's flow. The one song I watched him perform on LJNF made me think he was trying WAAAAAAAAAAAY too hard to sound like Lil Wayne. That is SO not what I want from him. But, maybe that's the only track that sounds like that? I'm not sure. I would think that he would have some very clever lyrics. So, I am intrigued enough to give it a listen, but I'm not expecting much.

Yeah, there's two songs on there where he definitely tries to sound like Lil' Wayne.  But mostly he tries to sound like Kanye West.

It's like he's really smart and pop-culture literate so he wants to prove that to you.  But he can also rap really well so he wants to prove that to you, too.  But he also doesn't want to be pigeon-holed as a backpacker so he wants to prove he's hard.  But then he doesn't want to be just another one of those gangsta rappers so he wants to show he can flow about anything and he wants to prove THAT as well.  Plus he wants to sing.  And have awesome production.  And he's very, very angry at having to prove all this (which no one asked him to do).

So essentially a Kanye rip-off.  The beats are kind of 808/Dark Twisted Fantasy era, and the lyrics are College Dropout era.  The problem of course, is that Kanye West already did this, and Kanye West is truly a musical genius, and even then people are already kind of sick of West's whole 'tude.

It's not like Glover/Gambino doesn't have skills.  It's just that he has nothing to say.  It's not laughably bad rap in a Shaq way.  That would actually kind be more interesting.  It's bad in the mundane MC-trying-way-too-hard way.

I cannot for the life of me get why it seems to be getting so many positive reviews.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Butter on November 16, 2011, 12:56:56 PM
Really?  See, I'm really enjoying this season of the office.

I like Andy as boss, because while he's kind of a screw-up he TRIES to do the right thing, and the employees generally like him.  Steve Carrell was just stupidly whacky the last three or four seasons.  I also really like James Spader as the uber-boss.  Because he's totally intimidating and weird, and yet he's super-competent with the mindgames and gets stuff done.

I'm about ready to kill it from the DVR.  Maybe I'm just sick of all the characters.  But it seems to me to be going nowhere, and hasn't been for a while.

The only laughs I got out of last week were Dwight berating the old man who was trying to use the blood pressure monitor.  Spader inviting his buddies to take over the band was pretty boring as plots go.  Most of the characters have turned into caricatures of themselves.  Oscar is secretly gay.  Kevin is an idiot.  Erin is an idiot.  Hell, MOST of them are idiots.

The whole "entire office takes Ed Helms' character to get a tattoo" was almost enough to make me delete the series then and there.  But I guess at some point you watch something not because it is funny, but because it is comfortable and routine.  That is where I'm at with The Office right now.  I liked Spader at first, but it seems like he is just the personification of a plot device... he is responsible for all the mayhem that trickles down through Ed Helms to the rest of the office.  Meh.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: rva on November 16, 2011, 01:21:19 PM
I'm with you guys on the Erin character really kind of sucking about now.

But I think everyone else has become *less* of a caricature, except maybe Dwight.  Without Steve Carrell, they are focusing more on the rest of the cast.  And like I said, it really helps that we get to see them actually accomplish shit or at at least TRY once in a while, even if only for selfish reasons.   Because before it was like why would any of them work want to work here and why would anyone hire them?
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: c-lando on November 16, 2011, 01:52:33 PM
What the hell is up with Britta's rack this year?  It started with Annie last year, but now both her and Annie always have some awesome boob action going every show.  Not that I mind, necessarily..  but did Gillian Jacobs demand equal rack time or something?
HAHAHAAHAH. In Hollywood, I'm sure that's a commond demand.

I've heard people ranting and raving about that Childish Gambino album but I can't get behind Glover's flow. The one song I watched him perform on LJNF made me think he was trying WAAAAAAAAAAAY too hard to sound like Lil Wayne. That is SO not what I want from him. But, maybe that's the only track that sounds like that? I'm not sure. I would think that he would have some very clever lyrics. So, I am intrigued enough to give it a listen, but I'm not expecting much.

Yeah, there's two songs on there where he definitely tries to sound like Lil' Wayne.  But mostly he tries to sound like Kanye West.

It's like he's really smart and pop-culture literate so he wants to prove that to you.  But he can also rap really well so he wants to prove that to you, too.  But he also doesn't want to be pigeon-holed as a backpacker so he wants to prove he's hard.  But then he doesn't want to be just another one of those gangsta rappers so he wants to show he can flow about anything and he wants to prove THAT as well.  Plus he wants to sing.  And have awesome production.  And he's very, very angry at having to prove all this (which no one asked him to do).

So essentially a Kanye rip-off.  The beats are kind of 808/Dark Twisted Fantasy era, and the lyrics are College Dropout era.  The problem of course, is that Kanye West already did this, and Kanye West is truly a musical genius, and even then people are already kind of sick of West's whole 'tude.

It's not like Glover/Gambino doesn't have skills.  It's just that he has nothing to say.  It's not laughably bad rap in a Shaq way.  That would actually kind be more interesting.  It's bad in the mundane MC-trying-way-too-hard way.

I cannot for the life of me get why it seems to be getting so many positive reviews.
This sums up what I was a fraid of with the album release.
But, I still want to touch his butt.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Butter on November 16, 2011, 02:26:24 PM
I'm with you guys on the Erin character really kind of sucking about now.

But I think everyone else has become *less* of a caricature, except maybe Dwight.  Without Steve Carrell, they are focusing more on the rest of the cast.  And like I said, it really helps that we get to see them actually accomplish shit or at at least TRY once in a while, even if only for selfish reasons.   Because before it was like why would any of them work want to work here and why would anyone hire them?

Every episode this season has been "Andy (is trying to impress / gets a directive from) Robert California, then wackiness ensues when he tries to meet his expectations."  Unless I missed one (which perusing the Episode List, I did... "Lotto" which came on during my week-long TV blackout period when I moved).
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: rva on November 16, 2011, 02:59:07 PM
Yeah, I suppose that's a fair criticism.  I could see how that leads to a certain boring sameness.

I guess for me, I'm totally okay with that being the general underlying theme for the show because it's "The Office" and that is mostly what people actually do in an office.  You run into some random work-shit storm or crazy request from your superior

How many eps have there been this season... 5?  Maybe 1 out of every 4 should be something different.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Poncho on November 16, 2011, 09:13:45 PM
What the hell is up with Britta's rack this year?  It started with Annie last year, but now both her and Annie always have some awesome boob action going every show.  Not that I mind, necessarily..  but did Gillian Jacobs demand equal rack time or something?

Man foul.  Big time.

The only manly answer is "Of course I don't mind at all, but thank the heavens and all that is holy."
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Juliana on November 17, 2011, 08:21:32 AM
What RVA said.

I will say that I don't like the way they've turned Erin into a complete nincompoop.  I mean, yeah, she's an airhead and that works... but the whole thing last week with Andy wanting her to feign an important call and her thinking it was appropriate for the fake call to be the police calling to tell him his mother was dead was ridiculous.  It was uncomfortable comedy, which is what they were going for, but they could find ways to do that without being unrealistic to that degree.

I think Erin is actually smarter this season.  She's always been SUPER stupid
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Butter on November 17, 2011, 10:07:03 AM
"Your mom died," is not super stupid?
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: rva on November 17, 2011, 10:52:06 AM
What the hell is up with Britta's rack this year?  It started with Annie last year, but now both her and Annie always have some awesome boob action going every show.  Not that I mind, necessarily..  but did Gillian Jacobs demand equal rack time or something?

Man foul.  Big time.

The only manly answer is "Of course I don't mind at all, but thank the heavens and all that is holy."

You seem to have an ongoing issue confusing "manly" with "nerdy."
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Butter on November 18, 2011, 12:17:37 PM
Someone at The AV Club (http://www.avclub.com/articles/gettysburg,65310/) has spent way more time thinking about The Office than I have.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Cockney Rebel on November 18, 2011, 12:31:41 PM
Someone at The AV Club (http://www.avclub.com/articles/gettysburg,65310/) has spent way more time thinking about The Office than I have.
I read about half of that before saying to myself "thank fuck I don't watch that shit any more"
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: rva on November 18, 2011, 12:53:30 PM
 I have to concur that last night's ep was pretty bad.  As was Community.  And the Broncos-Jets game.

Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Poncho on November 18, 2011, 05:32:07 PM
You seem to have an ongoing issue confusing "manly" with "nerdy."

I'm pretty sure that nerds love boobies, too.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on November 18, 2011, 09:25:35 PM
My DVR has decided to stop recording The Office, so I've missed the past 4 episodes. Maybe that was a good thing.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: MissKitty on November 19, 2011, 12:04:29 PM
Ella, it sounds like you have a very intuitive DVR. ;)
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: rva on November 19, 2011, 12:27:06 PM
You seem to have an ongoing issue confusing "manly" with "nerdy."

I'm pretty sure that nerds love boobies, too.

Who would know better than you?
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Juliana on November 20, 2011, 08:20:50 AM
"Your mom died," is not super stupid?

NO, it is pretty stupid, like grand scale, but overall, I think she's gotten better.
I can't think of any specific examples.  I don't know, I guess she goes back and forth depending on what the writers need.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Juliana on November 20, 2011, 08:24:00 AM
I'll also say that I love the AV Club, but jeez, they sometimes overalize a little too much.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: MissKitty on November 20, 2011, 10:13:14 AM
RVA, why are you posting as "guest?"
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Buzzstein on November 20, 2011, 06:23:27 PM
Hmmmmm
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Jen on November 21, 2011, 09:17:29 AM
I thought Community was freaking hilarious. So many great one-liners. Maybe I laughed even harder because I knew it was going on hiatus. Speaking of which, if it is going on hiatus in order to bring back crap like Fear Factor...all I can say is I am done with NBC.
Title: Re: New Fall TV Shows 2011
Post by: Butter on December 30, 2011, 12:14:04 PM
Just finished watching the AMERICAN HORROR STORY finale.  Wow, great season.  I was a little disappointed at the end thinking that they really have nowhere to go from here, but according to Ryan Murphy (http://www.avclub.com/articles/american-horror-story-to-completely-ditch-season-o,67002/), the second season will be completely different characters in a completely different setting.

Great idea!  I am now looking forward to season 2.  And while this year was often quite ridiculous, it was a most entertaining kind of ridiculous.