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Title: Random comic thoughts
Post by: rva on October 17, 2011, 02:29:20 PM
"The Unknown" is a pretty bad title for a comic book.  It's not really very zippy, nor descriptive. 

But more importantly, it's a hard term to search for on google.  "Unknown" is to vague, and "Unknown comic--" is a whole 'nother thing.
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: Nate on October 27, 2011, 12:50:09 AM
Is it worth picking up the comic version of The Walking Dead?  All of them?
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: dirk on October 27, 2011, 07:21:32 AM
Yes, it is definitely worth it.  I am enjoying the TV series, but so far it can't hold a candle to the comic. 

On an unrelated note, I think I have determined there are 2 people in comics that I will buy anything they do.  Those people are Brian Wood and Kieron Gillen.  Everything I have read by either man has just been incredible.  Gillen even got me to start being X-Men again, after I had sworn off the main series a few years ago.
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: rva on October 27, 2011, 01:15:11 PM
Aww, man.  If you like reading comics on your iPad/iPhone Comixology had the entire series for half-off right before the second season opener.  You would have saved a crap ton.

It's a pretty good comic, but I never got into it for just that reason.  I read one, put it down, then read another one like 30 issues later.  And by that point you have to spend like $40 on the graphic novels to catch up and I didn't feel like it.  It'd probably cost you $100 by now. 

I guess it's worth it.  The weird thing is if I'd started at the beginning and paid per issue, I'd have spent more money than it would take to get the graphic novels.  But it feels like a couple bucks a month, which is a lot different than staring $100 gone right away.

But anyway, that's my comics policy.  I either start a comic/arc at the beginning or at least by issue 5, or I wait until the whole thing is done and five years later they make a megabox of the whole thing.
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on October 27, 2011, 01:28:53 PM
I have a pdf of the comics that I "acquired", I'd be happy to share...
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: twentyshots on March 27, 2012, 11:24:27 AM
i'm wondering what the story is here.....
I have a pdf of the comics that I "acquired", I'd be happy to share...

i haven't checked this forum that much but am a little bit of a comic geek (old school).


BTW, has anyone caught kevin smith's comic book men on AMC? i've seen some episodes on line....it wasn't bad.
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: daytime drinking on April 08, 2012, 06:06:52 PM
can i tell jokes i made up here?  ok

someone said i was smart.  i replied, 'don't mensa it.'

what do you call it when an octopus is having trouble with a radio?  tentacle difficulties. 

so i said to the person seated to my right on an airplane, "don't you hate it when the person next to you talks to you?" 
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: daytime drinking on April 08, 2012, 06:32:09 PM
i've got a few more, since were on the subject

i just made this one up

so i went to the barber shop around the corner.  it's a black barbershop.  i said, " keep it long up top and short on the side."  i saw the result and was pissed as i had beautiful long blond hair.  i wound up with a fade when i envisioned a mohawk.  that's probably not funny

so my buddy said he wanted to be a stand up comedian.  i said that was the funniest thing he's ever said

i was at a bar in milwaukee with my cousin and best friend.  my cousin said, "i just turned 23, i'm a teacher and i just bought a house.  my best friend said, "i bought a house at 25 and now i own a business at 31.  i took a gulp of my beer and laughed, "i'm 29 and have two cats!" 

nothing's more embarrassing than having to angle to a side of the urinal as a kid posts up next to you in fear of his penis being bigger than yours. 

Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: Dan on April 09, 2012, 02:51:22 PM
We have a jokes thread. You needn't pollute the comic thread..... ooooooh, I just got it.

Haha.


Very funny.
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: daytime drinking on May 16, 2012, 03:04:16 PM
gotcha.  shalt go and pollute elsewhere
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: daytime drinking on May 16, 2012, 03:08:16 PM
We have a jokes thread. You needn't pollute the comic thread..... ooooooh, I just got it.

Haha.


Very funny.

kindly point me in the right direction, good sir you.  having difficulties finding the correct avenue to express my opposite angst. 
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: Dan on May 17, 2012, 08:51:56 AM
You're right...I'm having a hard time finding it, too. Maybe it was deleted?

Start one!
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: daytime drinking on May 18, 2012, 11:30:54 AM
maybe i will!
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: cyclone on May 18, 2012, 01:29:42 PM
How many comic people do we have on this board that actually get weekly pull lists or at least go to the comic store weekly or a few times a month?

For the past few years I've toiled with the idea of getting back into comics.  I stopped about 5-6 years ago, and then we had a tiny comic shop open up here in town (that only lasted 6 months or so).  I couldn't help but support the store so I ended up picking up and reading Grant Morrison's Batman RIP arc and then the first 5 issues or so of the rebooted Batman & Robin.  I've always been more of a DC guy, and I initially stopped reading right around Identity Crisis, which I also enjoyed.  I never touched much Marvel, but I liked the original Ultimate Spider-Man run, though I get the impression that that isn't a cool opinion among serious fans.  So basically my monthly hauls were a select few DC books and then some indie stuff ... I was really enjoying Kirkman's Invincible but I remember it going downhill around when I stopped.  Isn't someone actually reprinting the original TMNT series right now?  That's awesome.

So, I realize I'm not being very broad, but if I was to get back into comics, anyone have any recommendations for some can't miss books?  Or some key graphic novels I could pick up at the library to fill that gap from 2005 or so until now?  I realize I'm not being very broad in my tastes, but then again, it was never very broad to begin with.  Also, where do you Cincinnatians shop?  Back in the day I would go to the Comic Book World in Cheviot.  It's renamed now and just not that great.  The best one I ever went to was the Queen City Comics on route 4 (I've actually never been to the original).

twentyshots, I'm looking at you, buddy.
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: Zafer Kaya on May 18, 2012, 02:17:29 PM
Irredeemable and Incorruptible both finish up in May at around 35 issues, so they would probably both make for a good graphic novel collection maybe coming out later this year.

I have the Comix application for my iPad so I buy a couple comics now and again but for the most part, they're just way too expensive.  I don't know too many collectors nowadays.  The few people I know who still read comics on a regular basis all "acquire" them Kwyjibo-style.
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: cyclone on May 18, 2012, 03:12:54 PM
I have the Comix application for my iPad so I buy a couple comics now and again but for the most part, they're just way too expensive. 

Yeah, that was a part of the reason I let the hobby go.  Just about every (physical) issue got to be $3.99+.
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: dirk on May 18, 2012, 03:28:28 PM
I'm still a nerd and go to the comic book shop every week.  I usually go to Queen City comics on Montgomery, because it isn't to far out of the way for me coming home from work.  I have tried comics on the computer and tablet and it just isn't the same for me.

I have to second both Irredeemable and Incorruptible.  They are both really good and worth picking up when they end.  DMZ is another one that ended recently that was really good (really, anything by Brian Wood is worth picking up).  You may not like Marvel, but you should give X-Factor a shot.  It is written by Peter A David and is basically a noir comic written as a mutant comic.  He keeps it mostly out of the main mutant storylines and has an incredible sense of humour to add to the book.  He's another writer that is just really solid and is always good and I will pick up most things I see his name on. You should also definitely check out the Secret Six and Birds of Prey trades.  They are by Gail Simone and are just incredibly written books.  Secret Six completely revitalized interest in some of the second string DC villains (including Bane) and made them relevant again. The last thing you should absolutely check out Is Strangers in Paradise by  Terry Moore.  It ran from the mid-90 and ended in 2007, and is a must read.  It is some of the best characterization in a book I have ever read.  No superhero, just 2 people and the messed up story of their lives.

I'm sure there is more, but that is all I can think of that are really incredibly off the top of my head.
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: twentyshots on May 18, 2012, 03:45:55 PM
that app allows me to read avengers #1, x-men #1, daredevil #1....stuff none of us could ever afford. for that, i like it.

as for newer stuff, i really haven't pursued much....but anything written by ed brubaker seems to get really good reviews (most recently, criminal), so i am not going to be much help in that regard. i don't really get newer releases.
what could help you though is just going to a store and lay it out to whoever is working what you have told us here....because comic dudes LOVE to steer you in a direction, and despite being rabidly opinionated, most are great guys.

as for stores, i pretty much (literally) live between up, up, and away (cheviot, overpriced but incredibly CLEAN and organized. owner, kendall, is pretty serious and a little unapproachable) and rockin' rooster (covedale, so-so, small store that thrives on gaming. nice guys).

my favorites though are queen city comics by everybody's records (great collection of old and new, very helpful owner, two decent-sized rooms) and maverick's in finneytown. be warned....maverick's in finneytown is CRAZY. they do a lot of sports cards also and the place is a WRECK. you have to ask to find stuff, everything is in piles but the guy is super nice. i love it BECAUSE it's total chaos; it reminds me of the store i grew up going to, but i have been there trying to get comics out of a box jammed so tight that the box literally exploded and comics cascaded out everywhere! the owner, marvin, just laughed and taped up the box.

so, best overall would be queen city comics. the one on RT4 is ok, but the one on montegomery is better. outside of those, you are going to florence comic book world and beyond...

if i think of other newer things, i'll put them here, but like i said, i sniff around for '60's- '80's. i'm going to a guy's house monday who is apparently sitting on thousands of old titles. i think he has researched them quite a bit though so i may leave without any real steals.
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: cyclone on May 18, 2012, 05:51:33 PM
Thanks for the info, guys.

Forgot about Rockin' Rooster.  That's the old CBW guys, right? 

Kind of hard to believe how many years it has been since I first started going to that old Comic Book World in Cheviot (now Up Up & Away).  And you're right, it always has been super clean.  Plus it has that awesome art on the side of the building.  Mildly funny story, I used to always go on Saturdays, which back then was the height of the Pokemon/Yu-Gi-Oh era.  So I guess Saturday afternoons were the TCG tournament days, and the store would be jam packed with tables of people playing, and the store isn't even that big.  So one day I was making my rounds along the wall looking at the new comics, I turn around and this guy, probably late teens/early 20s at one of the tables immediately says "this isn't some library" in relation to me reading a comic off the shelf.  I somehow immediately responded, in a playful manner, "it isn't a playground either."  I still think about that sometimes.
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: luisterpaul on May 21, 2012, 01:26:37 PM
A friend loaned me

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5a/Batwoman_Elegy.JPG/250px-Batwoman_Elegy.JPG)

and I'm catching the bug again. I just ordered

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/32/Killingjoke.JPG/250px-Killingjoke.JPG)

Next up will probably be

(http://di2.shoppingshadow.com/images/pi/e5/b6/66/2049215962-260x260-0-0_Book_Astonishing_X_men_Omnibus_Joss_Whedon.jpg)
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on May 21, 2012, 01:49:50 PM
I used to hit Comic Book World in Florence once a week.  Those places don't really cater to the likes of me (I'm a Carl Barks/Don Rosa fan, and those inspired by them so the stuff I read is therefore "kid's stuff").  Julie was getting the Dark Tower comics for a while and we had to trek way out of our way to Kettering to find anything "local".  I've had a desire lately to read some older stuff like old Fantastic 4, GI Joe (throwback to my childhood). I don't have the budget to feed the exorbitant costs of a hobby like that so "acquiring" them is the only way I'm going to read them, period.
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: twentyshots on May 21, 2012, 06:45:43 PM
i'm going to a guy's house monday who is apparently sitting on thousands of old titles. i think he has researched them quite a bit though so i may leave without any real steals.

went.

i've been in contact with some guy my coworker goes to church with after hearing he was sitting on a huge comic collection he wanted to thin out.
after several emails, it was looking more and more dismal- i was not going to have that once-in-a-lifetime find. it seemed like the guy wanted to know specifically what issues i was interested in and then wanted to research in advance everything i was looking for. this led me to believe he didn't know their value.

with that in mind, my initial list included a lot of general x-men, daredevil, avengers runs, etc. but also mixed in some doozies (hulk 181, daredevil 168) in those runs. the guy was starting to research more and more, so i made what i THOUGHT was a genius move and said i'd just come out before he put too much effort into what he had. after all, i was under the impression he inherited many of them. but, when i went today, he had only brought out a few boxes of things i had mentioned for me to browse and i didn't get to the mother lode. i feel like i'm in a chess match and maybe he DOES know!......he could have laid out all doubles or something.....or i'm  reading too much into all of it.
i wasn't exactly trying to rip him off, but i was definitely in some morally ambiguous area.....if he wanted them gone, i would take them away!

despite all of that, it was well worth it, i may have not bagged the first appearance of elektra, but i picked up 45 comics for a $1 each, including some 12cent avengers, daredevils, secret wars stuff i've been looking for, including the debut of spidey's black suit...ALL well under any store's cost. in fact, those avengers are probably $8- $20 a piece, based on their condition (most are fine/very fine). so i'm calling it a good day.

i passed on a bunch of 12 cent submariners (not into him) i could have probably have flipped to cover my gas, but perhaps there will be a follow up trip.

many are double bagged so you can't see all here, but this is an idea.....some great bronze age avengers battles that i would assume raise in value with the movie doing so well. but, as i may have mentioned before, i don't buy these as some money-making scheme. i LIKE them and they are a steal at this price. if they increase in value, great.

top photo sucks, sorry.


(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7223/7244944524_1bce34246e_z.jpg)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7103/7244946594_257f57c3af_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: twentyshots on May 21, 2012, 07:03:20 PM



(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/32/Killingjoke.JPG/250px-Killingjoke.JPG)

you know, i've never read that......and it has been out forever. seems like i should.
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: luisterpaul on May 21, 2012, 07:43:25 PM



(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/32/Killingjoke.JPG/250px-Killingjoke.JPG)

you know, i've never read that......and it has been out forever. seems like i should.
I've heard a lot of good things, as well as a few wary comments. Apparently there are some extremes that are getting different reactions.

That Batwoman book, by the way, was great. I highly recommend it.
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: luisterpaul on May 21, 2012, 08:10:23 PM
BTW, 20, excellent haul! Wicked jealous.
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: dirk on May 21, 2012, 10:26:17 PM



(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/32/Killingjoke.JPG/250px-Killingjoke.JPG)

you know, i've never read that......and it has been out forever. seems like i should.
You should definitely read it.  It is one of those history changing books.  Actually, almost all of Alan Moore Batman stuff is like that (with the exception of Dark Knight Strikes Again, which I hated).
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: twentyshots on May 22, 2012, 10:05:33 PM
BTW, 20, excellent haul! Wicked jealous.
thanks.

this might open the door for a moral debate......

i have been asking a few people so i will ask here also: say this guy has hulk 181, and according to him, he might. it is the first full issue appearance of WOLVERINE and a highly sought after book. in shitty, falling apart condition people will pay $100 bucks for it. in mint condition it goes for thousands. therefore, any middle-of-the-road copy goes for anywhere between $500-$1,200. i see it on ebay regularly.
let's say this guy has that book and does not know it's value and offers it to me for $1 like the other back issues. what would you do?

do you say screw him, he has had the opportunity to research this, or do you offer him something more to ease your guilt? do you even say anything? i am not saying this will happen, but it MIGHT. a few of my friends have given me their thoughts. anyone here have an opinion on the matter?
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: dirk on May 22, 2012, 11:06:48 PM
If he offers it to you, I say there is no problem in taking it. Yes, it may be "more right" to say something to him, but if he is the one naming a price, I see no issue with it (especially since he has shown he has done some research into some of the books).

Now if you offer him a dollar knowing what it is worth, hoping to basically get a steal from someone who doesn't know what it is worth, then it's a total dick move.
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: twentyshots on May 22, 2012, 11:12:34 PM
If he offers it to you, I say there is no problem in taking it. Yes, it may be "more right" to say something to him, but if he is the one naming a price, I see no issue with it (especially since he has shown he has done some research into some of the books).

Now if you offer him a dollar knowing what it is worth, hoping to basically get a steal from someone who doesn't know what it is worth, then it's a total dick move.
interesting distinction, letting him determine price, and a good point.
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: luisterpaul on May 23, 2012, 07:31:43 AM
I agree. If he sets the price, and you're willing to pay it, no problem.

What does he want? A dollar? I'll offer him two. ;)
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: luisterpaul on May 31, 2012, 08:34:07 AM
The Killing Joke was quite good. Loved the art in particular. I swear Christopher Nolan read this before or while making The Dark Knight. I could hear Christian Bale's voice in some of Batman's lines in the book.
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: cyclone on May 31, 2012, 10:31:08 AM
I swear Christopher Nolan read this before or while making The Dark Knight.

He did.  I remember reading that he gave it to Ledger to study prior to the filming.
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: luisterpaul on May 31, 2012, 12:28:27 PM
I swear Christopher Nolan read this before or while making The Dark Knight.

He did.  I remember reading that he gave it to Ledger to study prior to the filming.
Oh, thank god! I was hoping it wasn't the voices in my head. Again.
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: Gigabiteme on May 31, 2012, 08:49:45 PM
Excellent haul a page back there, twenty.

I'm one of those who has "acquired" his pull list for the last couple years. And that has even dwindled down to pretty much just Walking Dead at this point. I just don't have the same amount of time to read as I used to, and it got hard to keep up with my faves.

But several years ago, I was able to "acquire" entire runs of some of my faves like Avengers, Fantastic Four, Justice League, Marvel Team-Up and several others. Put 'em on discs and have read them here and there over the years. I still have all my comics, though. Thirty long boxes full. I'd love to unload them sooner than later. They just don't carry the same emotional attachment they used to, so if I can get some dough out of them, awesome.
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: twentyshots on May 31, 2012, 11:10:27 PM
Excellent haul a page back there, twenty.

I'm one of those who has "acquired" his pull list for the last couple years. And that has even dwindled down to pretty much just Walking Dead at this point. I just don't have the same amount of time to read as I used to, and it got hard to keep up with my faves.

But several years ago, I was able to "acquire" entire runs of some of my faves like Avengers, Fantastic Four, Justice League, Marvel Team-Up and several others. Put 'em on discs and have read them here and there over the years. I still have all my comics, though. Thirty long boxes full. I'd love to unload them sooner than later. They just don't carry the same emotional attachment they used to, so if I can get some dough out of them, awesome.
thanks. still reading them (and will be for awhile).

30 long boxes?!! damn! that's almost a whole shop....
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: luisterpaul on March 16, 2013, 11:39:01 PM
Candid superhero moments (http://geekdraw.com/main/2013/3/12/candid-superhero-moments-by-phil-noto.html)
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: Chespo on April 02, 2013, 05:41:08 PM
Anybody reading Brian K. Vaughan's new pay-what-you-want download comic, The Private Eye (http://panelsyndicate.com/)?
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: scurvygirl on April 04, 2013, 09:49:29 PM
Anybody reading Brian K. Vaughan's new pay-what-you-want download comic, The Private Eye (http://panelsyndicate.com/)?

Yup. Or rather, I plan to read it once I am finished with the Gender Through Comic Books online course.
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on April 05, 2013, 07:58:58 AM
Candid superhero moments (http://geekdraw.com/main/2013/3/12/candid-superhero-moments-by-phil-noto.html)

Those are very cool.
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: luisterpaul on May 16, 2013, 07:39:45 AM
The Post-Punk / New Wave Super Friends by Butcher Billy

(http://behance.vo.llnwd.net/profiles17/1534633/projects/8688795/7fe66924d5fd3d7fd5801facab7a91e0.jpg)

http://www.behance.net/gallery/The-Post-Punk-New-Wave-Super-Friends-by-Butcher-Billy/8688795 (http://www.behance.net/gallery/The-Post-Punk-New-Wave-Super-Friends-by-Butcher-Billy/8688795)
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: twentyshots on October 05, 2013, 02:17:39 PM
suggestion: LAZARUS by greg rucka, michael lark, and santiago arcas.

issue four just came out and the series is very good. it is about a dark and dystopian future where government has vanished and the military has been absorbed into different families who have retained all the power. the source of family power is FOOD, who has it and how they control it. if you aren't a family member, you either work for them or are considered waste.
each family also has a LAZARUS, a partially bio-engineered badass protector that is tough to kill. forever carlyle is the lazarus of the carlyle family, subjects of the book's main arc, and she is magnificent. writing and ideology is well thought out and the art is fantastic. you will like.

(http://projectfandom.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Lazarus-Family1.png)
(http://www.readaboutcomics.com/images/2013/070113_lazarus02.jpg)
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: twentyshots on July 31, 2014, 08:37:43 AM
finally got to reading this. excellent, disturbing and artistically substantial (10 years in the making).
(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/73/06/a1/7306a155299e38eead93d2cffc14d729.jpg)
(http://scan.net.au/scan/journal/images/0908/zeigler/fig5.jpg)
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on July 31, 2014, 09:17:29 AM
Is the art and writing done by the same person?  The art reminds me of Daniel Clowes.
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: Zafer Kaya on July 31, 2014, 10:32:10 AM
Yeah, they are kind of similar.  Clowes is more cartoon-y/ugly, maybe. 

Clowes and Burns were/are the two big indie comics illustrators of Gen-x.  Burns did the album cover for Iggy Pop's Brick by Brick.
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: Kwyjibo on July 31, 2014, 01:31:52 PM
That's right.  Funny, I'd forgotten that both of them did art for OK Cola back in the 90's.  I remembered Clowes did, but I'd forgotten there were others.

Did anybody else ever try that stuff?  I thought it was pretty good.
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: twentyshots on July 31, 2014, 04:37:42 PM
yeah, the comparison to clowes is fair, their ink work is very similar. i haven't seen/read much of burns but this was more ominous than clowes. i feel like clowes retains more humor (or dark humor) while black hole was pretty dismal. good and engaging, but dismal....
i think the heaviness is due in part to the amount of black he uses. often it is white on black like scratch board or something, which gives it a richness but yeah....heavy.
Title: Re: Random comic thoughts
Post by: Zafer Kaya on December 19, 2015, 10:16:18 PM
Saga is mind-blowingly great and is the best comic I have ever read, and the art is equally insane and Lying Cat would verify I am telling the truth.

That is all.