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Title: Library talk
Post by: foolsgold on February 19, 2013, 02:46:25 PM
Feel free to post any library related stuff here.

A buddy working at the library has started a CD of the month program that sounds pretty neat.  Basically, you enter some information about your personal music tastes here (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1_ieeBdPwtEi8OfhAVln7v8rY3ljZZ6NTfMJrbL3mst0/viewform) and, each month, the staff will pick out something for you that maybe you haven't heard before.  And, they will ship it to your local branch.  It sounds like a neat outreach program and can't wait to see what they select for me.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: va-vacious on February 19, 2013, 03:19:40 PM
That's a cool idea!

I've been enjoying my little local library since getting home, but will be having to get into the Atlanta system soon. I'm hoping it's good!  I know lando gets lots of movies from the library there.

At my old library, one of the librarians did a yoga class on Wednesday nights. It was fantastic, and maybe the thing I miss the most about living in NC.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on February 19, 2013, 03:20:55 PM
That's a cool idea!

I've been enjoying my little local library since getting home, but will be having to get into the Atlanta system soon. I'm hoping it's good!  I know lando gets lots of movies from the library there.

At my old library, one of the librarians did a yoga class on Wednesday nights. It was fantastic, and maybe the thing I miss the most about living in NC.
Hey. I get books too. :)
I'm out in the Cobb County system. I have no clue what the system is like in the City of Atlanta. But, hopefully it is comparable.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on April 29, 2013, 03:14:26 PM
25 Vintage Photos of Librarians Being Awes(d)ome.

http://flavorwire.com/387224/25-vintage-photos-of-librarians-being-awesome/
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Butter on April 29, 2013, 03:27:59 PM
Ethan was skipping lunch to help the librarian earlier this year.  He also loves reserving and checking out books at the local library, then he will read about 20 pages of each and decide it's time for video games.  He listens to audiobooks on CD in his room to go to sleep at night.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Dan on April 29, 2013, 03:38:57 PM
(http://flavorwire.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/fiction-dept-vintage-scan2-765x1024.jpg)

Wow.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Poolio on April 29, 2013, 08:11:58 PM
That hair is amazing!!
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: va-vacious on April 29, 2013, 09:36:08 PM
With my swankety new job, one of the perks after I get off probation is tuition assistance for any school in the Georgia system. As an employee, I get FREE classes (provided there is room), up to 9 hours a semester. So now I'm thinking that that MLIS I've wanted I can get! Valdosta State has an online program that is accredited by ALA.  Something to look forward to for next year!
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Poolio on April 30, 2013, 08:02:36 AM
With my swankety new job, one of the perks after I get off probation is tuition assistance for any school in the Georgia system. As an employee, I get FREE classes (provided there is room), up to 9 hours a semester. So now I'm thinking that that MLIS I've wanted I can get! Valdosta State has an online program that is accredited by ALA.  Something to look forward to for next year!

YAY!!
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on April 30, 2013, 09:00:19 AM
With my swankety new job, one of the perks after I get off probation is tuition assistance for any school in the Georgia system. As an employee, I get FREE classes (provided there is room), up to 9 hours a semester. So now I'm thinking that that MLIS I've wanted I can get! Valdosta State has an online program that is accredited by ALA.  Something to look forward to for next year!

YAY!!
x3!!!! That's a fantastic perk!
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: foolsgold on April 30, 2013, 09:50:08 AM
If any local library workers hear of any jobs coming up or like me enough to put in a good word, it'd be much appreciated.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on May 15, 2013, 12:40:24 AM
Those of you who have Cinti library cards....today (May 15) is Fine Amnesty day.  If you owe any fines (items returned/renewed late), your fines will be forgiven today.  All you need to do is log into your account (looking at it is all that is needed) or call your local library.  This is the first amnesty day in over 25 years.

Also, if you are not aware of our newish interlibrary loan options, we joined a group called SearchOhio that gets you free interlibrary loan materials from many other public libraries in the state as well as all the Ohiolink libraries (university/college). 
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Dan on May 15, 2013, 10:27:11 AM
Hmmm... my friend's (deceased) father's thesis is in the archives in the UC system. I wonder if I can have you guys get it for her with that SearchOhio thingy. And how long would we have? Obviously we'd need to renew once or twice, but it would be a nice thing to do for her.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Poolio on May 15, 2013, 10:32:54 AM
Hmmm... my friend's (deceased) father's thesis is in the archives in the UC system. I wonder if I can have you guys get it for her with that SearchOhio thingy. And how long would we have? Obviously we'd need to renew once or twice, but it would be a nice thing to do for her.
You'll want to contact the interlibrary loan people at your local library. They should/might be able to get their hands on it. However, if it's in the archives, it might be in a closed collection and unavailable for ILL. Can't hurt to try, the ILL people might be able to find a copy in another open collection.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: foolsgold on May 15, 2013, 10:39:43 AM
You'll want to contact the interlibrary loan people at your local library. They should/might be able to get their hands on it. However, if it's in the archives, it might be in a closed collection and unavailable for ILL. Can't hurt to try, the ILL people might be able to find a copy in another open collection.

Or check the library's website.  Universities often digitize theses and dissertations (we're doing it now) to make them available online.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Poolio on May 15, 2013, 12:58:46 PM
You'll want to contact the interlibrary loan people at your local library. They should/might be able to get their hands on it. However, if it's in the archives, it might be in a closed collection and unavailable for ILL. Can't hurt to try, the ILL people might be able to find a copy in another open collection.

Or check the library's website.  Universities often digitize theses and dissertations (we're doing it now) to make them available online.
Yep, this too. (I've been cataloging them.)
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Dan on May 15, 2013, 01:24:54 PM
Thanks guys, maybe I'll do that.

Here it is if you want to try your own magic:

http://uclid.uc.edu/search~S39?/fC.U.+152.C83+.H67/fc+u+152+c83+h67/-3%2C-1%2C0%2CB/frameset&FF=fc+u+152+c83+h67&1%2C%2C3

This line does not inspire confidence, thoug:
"Archival materials must be requested through, and used in, the Archives & Rare Books Library"
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Poolio on May 15, 2013, 02:01:46 PM
This line does not inspire confidence, thoug:
"Archival materials must be requested through, and used in, the Archives & Rare Books Library"
Well, they have 3 copies and only 1 is in the archives. The other two seem to be in their off-site storage facility... whether they'd be available to ILL is something to email them about.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on May 15, 2013, 10:59:20 PM
Poolio is correct.  It did allow me to request it.  So the 2 that say Available are indeed available for requesting purposes.  SearchOhio/Ohiolink items are renewable 3 times (they go out for 3 weeks).  So that would be 12 weeks. It's 50˘/day fine, and Ohiolink charges an outrageous charge of $125 if you lose it. 
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: euro60 on May 16, 2013, 02:03:06 PM
A librarian tale of a different kind:

At the Foals show at Bogart's earlier this week, I'm walking up to the front when all of the sudden someone screams out my name, I turn around and there is this woman "Hi Paul! Do you remember me?" I reply "I am so sorry but I don't", to which she responds "It's (name deleted for privacy purposes)! I know, you probably don't recognize me as my hair has a different color now. Anyway [lights go dark, huge applause, Foals is coming on] ...... Blue Ash...."

I can't understand another word she is saying, and I walk away somewhat awkwardly.I'm thinking I must've met her somewhere in Blue Ash (where I live).

Next day, thank goodness I remember her name, and so I Google her, and there she is! She works in the library of UC Blue Ash, I scroll the rest of her profile, and then notice that she worked in the library here at the law firm some 10+ years ago. I can honestly say I have zero recollection of that. The fact that she not only recognized me but even remembered my name all this time later really impressed and amazed me. Librarians rock!
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Dan on May 28, 2013, 02:47:14 PM
Thank you for your advice guys! I was able to ILL the book and it's arrived. Thank you so much!
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on May 29, 2013, 05:13:53 PM
Thank you for your advice guys! I was able to ILL the book and it's arrived. Thank you so much!
Soooooooooooooo cool!
R-villains helping r-villains in a way that doesn't involve pirated music links! :)
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: va-vacious on May 29, 2013, 09:26:48 PM
sounds like a new slogan for us!
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on May 30, 2013, 08:27:21 AM
sounds like a new slogan for us!
Except that it draws attention to the fact that we do often help each other with those links.  :o
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: va-vacious on May 30, 2013, 04:55:27 PM
psht, minor, legal detail!
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: foolsgold on May 30, 2013, 07:24:06 PM
I just confirmed on Wikipedia that we're good, legal wise.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on May 30, 2013, 07:38:32 PM
Tidbits of info:

Khaled Hosseini is talking/book-signing at the Main Library Fri night at 7.  Free, but if you want a book signed, you need to buy his latest at Joseph-Beth.

The annual book sale (which includes a/v) starts on Saturday, 9 am and continues until next Fri.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on June 03, 2013, 01:39:49 PM
Dan - GO FIND THIS!

http://www.theatlanticcities.com/design/2013/05/worlds-tiniest-library-pops-new-york-city/5742/

foolsgold - build one of these for the PR!!!!
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: MissKitty on June 03, 2013, 03:09:10 PM
There's also this (http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20130531/NEWS10/305310025/INSPIRED-LOCALS-library-never-closes).
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on June 03, 2013, 03:33:48 PM
There's also this (http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20130531/NEWS10/305310025/INSPIRED-LOCALS-library-never-closes).
Love it!
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Dan on June 03, 2013, 03:51:14 PM
Haha. There is a book exchange on the shelf next to my desk (started before I worked here) that is essentially the same thing. Since it's adjacent to me, I tend to overanalyze what is in there. Obviously, the good stuff goes quickly and people bring in the crap that they don't want anymore. So the library steadily devolves. Still...it's fun.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: MissKitty on June 03, 2013, 06:55:08 PM
Our library in Newport has what they call "honor books," which are free and you don't have to check them out nor return them after a certain amount of time. you can keep them forever if you wish.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: va-vacious on June 03, 2013, 07:12:44 PM
at my old workplace we had a book exchange shelf in our library, but only two people used it. we eventually gave all the books to the county library book sale.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Cockney Rebel on June 04, 2013, 12:19:56 AM
There's a glass case with honour books in it on Fairfield Avenue in Bellevue! Just on the sidewalk, "take what you want to read".

This honour book thing is one of the things that never ceases to amaze me about America. I think its fair to say that if something similar were to be offered in England, petty hoodlums would have set the books alight by now. Or turned them into missiles to fling at passing cars.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: cyclone on June 04, 2013, 11:23:49 AM
The annual book sale (which includes a/v) starts on Saturday, 9 am and continues until next Fri.

I went Saturday afternoon and was surprised at the lack of crowd for the first day it started. I hadn't been to the main downtown sale in a couple years but remember going early on the first days before and it being packed. I mean, there was a nice crowd there, but for example when we checked out, there was no one in line for the cashier for about twenty minutes or so.

It was a lot different than I remembered a few years ago ... the volume of original/collectible books they have for sale now is pretty impressive. I also couldn't help but think what a utopia it would be for people with more mainstream tastes that will probably never visit ... if someone was interested in things like uber-cheap graphic novels from the big two comic companies or TV shows on DVD. As per usual my best finds where buried in the boxes underneath the tables that didn't make the displays.  I was especially happy that I found this in a said box ...

(http://oi44.tinypic.com/531y02.jpg)
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on June 12, 2013, 12:40:48 AM
Cincinnati Library users--rejoice.  Your DVD/VHS fines will now only be 20˘/day instead of $2/day.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: foolsgold on June 21, 2013, 01:06:17 PM
In a meeting today, I asked how YBP's DDA MARC FTP records would look in our III ILS.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: euro60 on June 21, 2013, 02:28:06 PM
Cincinnati Library users--rejoice.  Your DVD/VHS fines will now only be 20˘/day instead of $2/day.
Rejoice? I think the REVERSE. Removing the killer penalty of $2/day takes away a significant stimulus people had to turn in their DVDs on a timely basis... I personally think this move's a big mistake.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on June 21, 2013, 03:36:06 PM
Euro, I actually agree with you but I'm just forced to implement what the powers that be decide.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on August 07, 2013, 03:27:02 PM
I kind of love the idea of someone making an archive of movie scenes filmed in a library. How is Slimer's first appearance in GHOSTBUSTERS not on here yet?

http://www.youtube.com/user/LibrariansVanity
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: cuddlyevil on August 07, 2013, 04:15:18 PM
There's a glass case with honour books in it on Fairfield Avenue in Bellevue! Just on the sidewalk, "take what you want to read".

This honour book thing is one of the things that never ceases to amaze me about America. I think its fair to say that if something similar were to be offered in England, petty hoodlums would have set the books alight by now. Or turned them into missiles to fling at passing cars.

My daughter's school is talking about setting up one on the edge of campus and filling it with children's books. It's an excellent idea.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Kwyjibo on August 07, 2013, 04:20:14 PM
This honour book thing is one of the things that never ceases to amaze me about America. I think its fair to say that if something similar were to be offered in England, petty hoodlums would have set the books alight by now. Or turned them into missiles to fling at passing cars.

I'd say that's probably what would happen in 95% of the neighborhoods in America as well.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Dan on August 08, 2013, 09:12:23 AM
Thank you for your advice guys! I was able to ILL the book and it's arrived. Thank you so much!

Thank you again for the advice guys. We made a copy of the thesis and then had that bound nicely. We gave it to my friend a few weeks ago and she actually started tearing up as she was reading it. Obviously this was very meaningful so thank you so much.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on August 08, 2013, 09:43:29 AM
Thank you for your advice guys! I was able to ILL the book and it's arrived. Thank you so much!

Thank you again for the advice guys. We made a copy of the thesis and then had that bound nicely. We gave it to my friend a few weeks ago and she actually started tearing up as she was reading it. Obviously this was very meaningful so thank you so much.
Super-duper-cool! What a fantastic gift.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: foolsgold on August 15, 2013, 02:41:04 PM
When asking a library listserv for ways to recycle about 2700 withdrawn STEM titles from the 1910's-1960's, here is a sampling of really bad advice:

1) Make something crafty out of them, like purses or tables.
2) Send them to prisons or to an African village.
3) Why are you trying to recycle books?  Libraries should be stewards of the printed word.
4) Freecycle or Craigslist.
5) Find someone interested them.

When I reframed my query again mentioning the 2700 out-of-date titles and needing it done in as few steps as possible, the lightbulb went off and I got this advice:

1) Make something crafty out of them, like purses or tables.
2) Send them to prisons or to an African village.
3) Why are you trying to recycle books?  Libraries should be stewards of the printed word.
4) Freecycle or Craigslist.
5) Find someone interested them.

Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Poolio on August 15, 2013, 03:30:42 PM
Oh dear...

At my old public library, we did 3 things with those types of materials:
1) Saved a copy of "worthwhile"* materials in the annex. *This was never clearly defined and changed wildly with whoever was in charge of the annex.
2) Book sale!!
3) Hired a company to quietly recycle them.

Or, you could just have a bonfire.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: luisterpaul on August 15, 2013, 03:47:48 PM
When asking a library listserv for ways to recycle about 2700 withdrawn STEM titles from the 1910's-1960's, here is a sampling of really bad advice:

1) Make something crafty out of them, like purses or tables.
2) Send them to prisons or to an African village.
3) Why are you trying to recycle books?  Libraries should be stewards of the printed word.
4) Freecycle or Craigslist.
5) Find someone interested them.

When I reframed my query again mentioning the 2700 out-of-date titles and needing it done in as few steps as possible, the lightbulb went off and I got this advice:

1) Make something crafty out of them, like purses or tables.
2) Send them to prisons or to an African village.
3) Why are you trying to recycle books?  Libraries should be stewards of the printed word.
4) Freecycle or Craigslist.
5) Find someone interested them.
Is option two a holdover from the 50s? And of course option five gets to the heart of the problem.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Kwyjibo on August 15, 2013, 03:51:41 PM
I thought I was going to be all smart and suggest dumping them in an Abitibi Paper Retriever (http://www.paperretriever.com/) bin, but I see now that they do not accept hard back books.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: foolsgold on August 16, 2013, 08:42:33 AM
Or, you could just have a bonfire.

I've actually looked into this as something to do during banned book week, but, after that bonfire collapse at Texas A&M a few years ago, college administrations are somewhat reluctant to host events involving giant burning things.  Wusses.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: adyonka on August 16, 2013, 08:51:38 AM
Thankfully you found someone who was interested in the books.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: foolsgold on August 16, 2013, 09:07:25 AM
Thankfully you found someone who was interested in the books.

Indeed, but that was that massive weeding project, not this massive weeding project.  The other stinky wrinkle is that I've been charged to find transportation myself since the university has removed itself from the book removal game.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Poolio on August 16, 2013, 09:31:02 AM
D'Oh... Time to employ a company who'll handle pick-up (if your budget allows for it).
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: va-vacious on August 16, 2013, 01:08:24 PM
This doesn't really solve your problem, but I saw an awesome way of dealing with books like this: turn them into book furniture! I saw a chair constructed out of books, using at least 200.  And I found an image of a counter in which the base was made of books as well.  Looked like subway tile, but books instead. 

Completely inefficient use of space, though.

Good luck!
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: adyonka on August 16, 2013, 03:40:05 PM
Thankfully you found someone who was interested in the books.

Indeed, but that was that massive weeding project, not this massive weeding project.  The other stinky wrinkle is that I've been charged to find transportation myself since the university has removed itself from the book removal game.

That stinky wrinkle is unfortunate, but not impossible to iron out. Contact me.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on August 16, 2013, 08:33:30 PM
Our local library posted an image on facebook with the title "I like big books and I cannot lie..." with the request to complete the line. This is my favorite response

I like big books and I cannot lie
You other brothers can't deny
That when a librarian walks in with a brand new tome
And a rounded spine - that aint' been cracked
You want to be the first to get your hands on that
'Cause you notice that book
Was stuffed with deep thought
And new ideas you crave to be taught

I'm hooked and I can't stop reading.

Oh book, I wanna get with you
I wanna be the first and write a review
My homeboys try to ward me off
but my cravings too deep - just let them scoff
(They aint never read no Anton Chekhov)
They claim, you are too theoretical
But I don't care if you have no art
Book, you got the theme that sings to my heart
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Kwyjibo on August 19, 2013, 08:36:07 AM
This doesn't really solve your problem, but I saw an awesome way of dealing with books like this: turn them into book furniture! I saw a chair constructed out of books, using at least 200.  And I found an image of a counter in which the base was made of books as well.  Looked like subway tile, but books instead. 
When asking a library listserv for ways to recycle about 2700 withdrawn STEM titles from the 1910's-1960's, here is a sampling of really bad advice:

1) Make something crafty out of them, like purses or tables.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Zafer Kaya on August 19, 2013, 01:09:43 PM
Chekhov didn't write the kinds of books that would make white girls jelly.

They were all short stories and plays.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: va-vacious on August 20, 2013, 07:51:46 PM
Because the Beastie Boys are awesome.

http://vimeo.com/66169135 (http://vimeo.com/66169135)
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: MissKitty on August 21, 2013, 12:55:32 PM
That is awesome!
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: foolsgold on November 14, 2013, 02:33:55 PM
Brilliant.

http://everylibrary.org/theworstelection2013/

The Lafourche Louisiana Parish Public Library is facing the most offensive opposition I’ve ever seen in a library election:  “ ‘They’re teaching Mexicans how to speak English,’ the council chairman said in reference to Biblioteca Hispana, a Hispanic-language segment of the Golden Meadow library branch. ‘Let that son of a bitch go back to Mexico. There’s just so many things they’re doing that I don’t agree with. … Them junkies and hippies and food stamps (recipients) and all, they use the library to look at drugs and food stamps (on the Internet). I see them do it.’
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Poolio on November 14, 2013, 03:19:34 PM
Oh good lord. I wish I could say that I was surprised.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Homsar on November 14, 2013, 03:57:30 PM
If only that guy had been to a library.  Then he would know how to speak English.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: va-vacious on November 15, 2013, 01:51:48 PM
So the food stamp user LOOKS at food stamps on the internet?  :/

I hate that this guy is doing this. And to pull the funding to build a jail.  I can't even...
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Poolio on November 19, 2013, 06:26:28 AM
Since it's the anniversary of the Gettysburg address, it's time to revisit one of my favorite patron stories from my last job.

The scene: Large urban library. A librarian is working at the YA desk. A young lad approaches.

Young Lad: "I need a recording of the Gettysburg address."
Librarian: "Okay. Let me see if we have something." *typing sounds*
Librarian: "It looks like we've got a recording read by Famous Actor."
YL: "No. That's not what I need!"
Librarian: "What do you need?"
YL: "I need the recording of Abraham Lincoln reading the Gettysburg address!"

End scene.

This story is only beaten by the girl who asked for a photograph of a dinosaur.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on January 09, 2014, 12:13:04 PM
Thought about putting this under TV, but it's a library event :-)

I believe there are a fair amount of Downton Abbey fans on here.  This might be an event you would be interested in.  The talk is free...only the luncheon costs.

http://www.cincinnatilibrary.org/news/2014/downton/
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: va-vacious on January 09, 2014, 12:15:56 PM
come on, all you library geeks!

http://geekthelibrary.org/getyourgeekon/index.html (http://geekthelibrary.org/getyourgeekon/index.html)
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Poolio on January 10, 2014, 06:32:05 AM
come on, all you library geeks!

http://geekthelibrary.org/getyourgeekon/index.html (http://geekthelibrary.org/getyourgeekon/index.html)
We used to have t-shirts for this... I wonder if there are any floating around the building anymore. Time to root through the closets!
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: foolsgold on February 20, 2014, 11:19:05 AM
At least 60% of my workplace aggravation comes from using Innovative's Sierra.  The level of daily hatred I generate because of that piss-poor product could power a city block for a week.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: va-vacious on February 20, 2014, 12:01:00 PM
I just found out our university library has a phenomenal set of atlases from the mid-17th century. We're getting to have one on exhibit for about 4months. The archivist brought it over for us to look at, and the images are STUNNING. Everything is hand-watercolored, and it's incredibly bright. I can't believe that it's held up so well for so long.

Then again, the paper of the 17th century is better than just about anything produced today.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on February 20, 2014, 07:21:04 PM
At least 60% of my workplace aggravation comes from using Innovative's Sierra.  The level of daily hatred I generate because of that piss-poor product could power a city block for a week.
x10000 (though my aggravation is about 95%)
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: foolsgold on April 29, 2014, 10:07:48 AM
Library folk: please pass this along to any qualified/interested/not batshit crazy people looking to be a library director:

https://xavier-openhire.silkroad.com/epostings/index.cfm?fuseaction=app.jobInfo&version=1&jobid=162
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on August 04, 2014, 12:02:07 PM
About Hamilton's Lane Library...

The Lane Public Library is located in an architecturally significant building in the heart of Hamilton’s Historic German Village. Built in 1866 by local philanthropist, Clark Lane, Lane Library has the distinction of being the oldest public library west of the Alleghenies.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: va-vacious on August 04, 2014, 07:07:16 PM
That's cool!

One of my local libraries is coming to my museum tomorrow for a volunteer appreciation event. I love collaboration!
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on August 05, 2014, 08:17:51 AM
That's cool!

One of my local libraries is coming to my museum tomorrow for a volunteer appreciation event. I love collaboration!
Perfection!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: foolsgold on September 24, 2014, 09:06:20 AM
Has anyone using Sierra been having serious issues with it in the last few weeks (more so than usual, that is)?  Our inventory module has been down since July and iii can't quite figure out when or if a patch will be sent out.  Sierra keeps freezing up, at least, several times a day whenever a record is being edited.  Again, when reported, we get the old iii shoulder shrug.

Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 24, 2014, 02:28:54 PM
I don't know anything about this software but what you're describing sounds like every piece of software I've ever been forced to deal with.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on September 24, 2014, 10:31:52 PM
FG--as a product it sucks.  I can't believe people buy this crap.  Anyway, as for freezing, which we do experience periodically I would check the java version that is being used on the PC and with Sierra.  They are still expecting/requiring Sierra to work with Java 6...which is now well over a year old.  If newer versions of Java have been installed, and Sierra is attempting to use them, Sierra becomes very unhappy and sometimes stops working completely.  Our most common complaint is that you can't edit any records.  There are several ways around this and I'll be glad to give you more detailed info if needed.
Option 1--make sure the NoWebStart Sierra client is installed.  If this is installed, then sierra will use Java6, but you can still update your PC with newer versions to make all other programs happy (beware if you use Web management reports which also still wants 6). 
Option 2--in the Control panel, you can go into java settings and tell it to use 6 (assuming it hasn't been wiped out by newer installations) for Sierra.
Option 3--edit one of the sierra .lax files (can't remember off top of head which) so that Sierra actually uses 7 instead of 6.  And then all things seem to work well.  The .lax file default actually specifies 6 which is why Sierra freaks out if 6 isn't installed. 

Another note---if someone is doing server maintenance (like moving things around) Sierra is very sensitive to this.  Our network people seem to like to move the database from one server to another on a whim while we're open.  With a normal program, this wouldn't really matter.  With Sierra it pretty much brings it to a halt. 

Can't help on the inventory module as we don't use it. 
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Poolio on September 25, 2014, 06:19:12 AM
FG - I'll check in with my old office, they're an III library but I am not sure if they caved in and bought Sierra once their Millennium contract ran out. I know they weren't thrilled with the product and then got a new Director who wasn't interested in Technical Services at all so...
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Poolio on September 25, 2014, 10:54:05 AM
Well, FG, I struck out. They still haven't changed ILS'... but the person I talked to "wasn't surprised" that Sierra was having problems.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: foolsgold on September 25, 2014, 12:12:45 PM
I'm thoroughly baffled why Ohio libraries are so committed to using iii products.  I know, in the past, they had to in order to "talk" with other Ohio libraries, but that's not the case anymore.  And, it isn't just Ohio.  I was at an acquisitions conference last year and an iii VP was presenting.  Even before she said a word, she was booed by the audience and didn't fare much better during the Q&A portion.  I guess we weren't the only ones force to switch to a shoddy and, largely, unsupported product.

I resorted to option 1 and, so far, everything seems to be working.  Thanks for the help and it's a reminder why I'd love to have a systems librarian on staff. 
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Poolio on October 08, 2014, 07:10:30 AM
Sooo... anyone out there use Overdrive to checkout e-books? Well, if you use Adobe Digital Editions, your reading history/activity is getting sent back to Adobe in a plain text file.

http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/10/adobes-e-book-reader-sends-your-reading-logs-back-to-adobe-in-plain-text/ (http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/10/adobes-e-book-reader-sends-your-reading-logs-back-to-adobe-in-plain-text/)

I hate Digital Editions anyway but this is just awful. I hope someone at Adobe enjoyed looking through all the gay paranormal romances I've cataloged over the last few years for Overdrive.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: MissKitty on October 08, 2014, 09:55:18 AM
I guess I'm not too bothered about them knowing what I read. I love e-books, although I dislike having to wait for a hot item (but then, you sometimes have to do that with a paper library book too).

So what if Adobe finds out that I enjoy reading biographies, history, and humor?
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Poolio on October 08, 2014, 10:24:52 AM
I guess I'm not too bothered about them knowing what I read. I love e-books, although I dislike having to wait for a hot item (but then, you sometimes have to do that with a paper library book too).

So what if Adobe finds out that I enjoy reading biographies, history, and humor?

Well, from a librarian perspective, one of things we value and enforce in our libraries is that what you read is private... no one else needs to know (see the American Library Association's Code of Ethics, http://www.ifmanual.org/codeethics (http://www.ifmanual.org/codeethics)). Most libraries have pretty strict policies about not giving out check-out histories, etc... This goes completely against that in a big way... and all the more disturbing because it's not encrypted in any way. So, it's not just Adobe that knows what you're reading... so does anyone who intercepts that file as it goes back to Adobe. Plus, in some states (like New Jersey) this is against the law.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Dan on October 08, 2014, 11:29:27 AM
FYI: I had to google the phrase "paranormal romances."
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Poolio on October 09, 2014, 06:52:56 AM
FYI: I had to google the phrase "paranormal romances."
HAHAHA!! I am sorry. I hope you're not scarred for life.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Poolio on February 06, 2015, 08:08:07 AM
All right folks, here's a colldev tip for you. If Overdrive doesn't show you a cover scan of a graphic novel, there IS a reason. Holee cow...

I just cataloged 5 rather graphic graphic novels. Post-it notes were employed to censor things like the title page, cover, index pages and back cover. And it was a good thing I get to the office early so no one was wandering past to see my second screen... Jeepers... I'll take written porn any day of the week instead of the graphic novel variety.
Title: RE: Library Talk
Post by: foolsgold on February 06, 2015, 08:33:31 AM
Well, they do call them "graphic" novels.

You haven't seen anything until you catalog a book about forensic investigations with pages of full color and close-up shots of the victims and their wounds.  That was probably 10 years ago and it still gives me chills.
Title: Re: RE: Library Talk
Post by: Poolio on February 06, 2015, 08:46:47 AM
Well, they do call them "graphic" novels.

You haven't seen anything until you catalog a book about forensic investigations with pages of full color and close-up shots of the victims and their wounds.  That was probably 10 years ago and it still gives me chills.

Oh yeah, I can match that. Once I had an ebook which appeared fairly innocent, it was in Thai and English. It was on sexual reassignment surgery, written for surgeons so it had colorful close-up photos as well. And, I had to scan through the entire thing to identify the presence of illustrations. Just about the time I forget about that book, I come across another one that reminds me why I should flip through these medical books with only one eye open. *shudder*
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: foolsgold on February 06, 2015, 09:16:11 AM
We should get hazard pay or, at least, a stipend for emotional counseling. 
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Poolio on February 06, 2015, 10:52:58 AM
Damn right!
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on February 26, 2015, 10:47:14 PM
For those of you in Cincinnati who user OverDrive to check out eBooks, we just did an upgrade tonight that integrates checking out and placing holds of these materials in our catalog--you won't need to go to the OverDrive site anymore if you choose not to.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on May 13, 2015, 12:59:52 AM
So I was covering for someone today and training our new employees, and went to show them all the databases that we have available.  During a break, one of them asked me about something she experienced while she was trying things out, so I went into the database to answer her.  The database I went into is Mango languages...and believe it or not, Pirate is a language you can learn on there.  That got a chuckle out of both of us :-) 
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on May 13, 2015, 08:56:51 AM
So I was covering for someone today and training our new employees, and went to show them all the databases that we have available.  During a break, one of them asked me about something she experienced while she was trying things out, so I went into the database to answer her.  The database I went into is Mango languages...and believe it or not, Pirate is a language you can learn on there.  That got a chuckle out of both of us :-)
Hil-aaaarrrrrrrrr-ious.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: foolsgold on May 15, 2015, 01:51:52 PM
Apparently there is a right way and a wrong way to make a squiggly line. 

Catalogers...
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Poolio on May 19, 2015, 09:17:03 AM
Apparently there is a right way and a wrong way to make a squiggly line. 

Catalogers...

Heh. We'll argue about anything.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on December 02, 2015, 09:51:49 PM
FYI:  For those of you in Cincinnati, you can now place holds on what we call "Feature Films"--basically new release movies that check out for 4 days.  They are also now renewable 8 times (just like most other items). 
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: euro60 on December 02, 2015, 10:33:38 PM
FYI:  For those of you in Cincinnati, you can now place holds on what we call "Feature Films"--basically new release movies that check out for 4 days.  They are also now renewable 8 times (just like most other items).
Yes indeed. I found out about that just yesterday. Pretty good stuff, although I imagine the "hold" queue for the truly popular movies will be immense. I'm excited about it because I'll be able to put a hold on the lesser known recent movies (say, the Film Movement releases).
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on December 21, 2015, 11:34:00 AM
Librarians, go read ZK's recent post in the 50 Books thread and steal it. Or, we can just wait until he gets his MLS.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Zafer Kaya on December 21, 2015, 05:47:11 PM
Have I ever mentioned the "Halfsies Hold?"

The "Halfsies Hold" works like this:

The library maintains an online list of books they plan to purchase-- either books about to be released, or popular books where it turns out they could use an extra few copies.  The books on this list are then eligible for a "Halfsies Hold."

If you will go halfsies with the library and "donate" half the cost of the ebook to the library via linked Paypal button, then the library orders that book.  And you get first dibs upon arrival for whatever the standard checkout period for that book is, in front of any Holds or Super Holds.

For example, I would spend $6.50 for Fates and Furies to read it right now.  It saves me half the price of buying it.  And after I finish, I would be happy to donate it to library because I don't really re-read most stuff.  Or if I do want to re-read it, it will usually be a long time later at which point I can just check it out again anyway.  And I would easily finish it within the standard check out period or before since obviously I want to read it so bad I would even pay for it to get it now.

And all of that is accomplished by the Halfsie Hold.  For half the price of the book, I get to read it right away (or at least in a few days or so giving the library time to order it and whatever processing they do).  And the library gets a book for half-cost which saves them money and obviously they then lend it out which reduces the queue for everyone else.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on December 21, 2015, 07:20:32 PM
For those of you who might like to publish your own book 
http://ondemandbooks.com/ebm_overview.php
PLCH now has one.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Poolio on December 23, 2015, 06:24:04 AM
Have I ever mentioned the "Halfsies Hold?"

My old employer didn't do the "halfsies hold" but has started a program for books/movies like "Fates and furies" that end up being super popular. They get some extra copies beyond what would normally be purchased (based on an equation of # of holds, etc...) and then those copies get put out for grabs for a slightly abbreviated check-out time. It gives folks who either don't want to be Hold #999 or who just heard about a title a chance at enjoying the title before 2017.

The only trouble I see with the "halfsies hold" comes in with how libraries can be funded. It really would depend on how the local governments fund the library and how that money is managed/regulated. Like you know when you pay fines for late fees or lost materials? You might think that money goes back into the library's general fund, right? Well, not always. One place I worked, the money from fines went into the county's general fund. It never actually made it back to the library.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on December 30, 2015, 09:59:37 PM
ZK, you'd get your books a lot faster if you lived in Cincinnati.  we have a 3:1 holds ratio for print materials.  The only thing that would stop us from keeping the holds number at this ratio if the item is out of print. 
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on February 02, 2016, 12:40:04 AM
Heads up for a new service.
http://www.cincinnatilibrary.org/spotlight/hottickets.aspx

You can put your name on a list for various movie genres and then I end up placing holds automatically on any new dvd in which box office sales were over $10 Mil.  Your hold gets placed before the title is visible to anyone else. 
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on February 02, 2016, 04:09:47 PM
My friend is writing/directing a movie about a library. I may have to check in with you guys if he needs to pick any brains. :D
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on February 02, 2016, 11:18:47 PM
My friend is writing/directing a movie about a library. I may have to check in with you guys if he needs to pick any brains. :D
Is it a horror film?  :-D
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: foolsgold on February 03, 2016, 08:32:39 AM
Will it be called "The Budget Slasher?"
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Cockney Rebel on February 03, 2016, 08:41:44 AM
Heads up for a new service.
http://www.cincinnatilibrary.org/spotlight/hottickets.aspx

You can put your name on a list for various movie genres and then I end up placing holds automatically on any new dvd in which box office sales were over $10 Mil.  Your hold gets placed before the title is visible to anyone else.
Well, that seems like a wanky idea. Unless I can be signed up for 'everything except children's and horror movies'?

Just as I was getting used to ordering pre/new release titles, the goalposts get moved again...
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on February 03, 2016, 09:02:20 AM
My friend is writing/directing a movie about a library. I may have to check in with you guys if he needs to pick any brains. :D
Is it a horror film?  :-D
If it's anything like his last film (for which scargyle did the movie poster), the answer is YES!

https://vimeo.com/kinosaur

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm988345088/nm3809777


Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on February 03, 2016, 10:01:52 PM
[Well, that seems like a wanky idea. Unless I can be signed up for 'everything except children's and horror movies'?

Just as I was getting used to ordering pre/new release titles, the goalposts get moved again...

There are, I think, 7 categories and you can sign up for as many of them as you want to.  Today, 4 Drama titles were added for holds:  Carol, Creed, Steve Jobs and some other movie I can't remember.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: daytime drinking on February 13, 2016, 11:33:23 AM
i have a library card but have used it in seven years because i never returned a few dvds on time.  i never paid the fine.  if i go and use the library card today, will they ask me to paid the fine? 
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on February 13, 2016, 01:01:32 PM
Your card may not even exist anymore so you'd want to call 369-6900 and have them check, and if you need to re-apply you'll need your ID or a bill (like from phone/gas company) with your current address on it.  If it does exist and the fines still exist, we have a 5 year statute of limitations so as long as the fines are older than that, they should take them off.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: daytime drinking on February 13, 2016, 04:09:03 PM
tnx.  i feel shitty about the fine but almost as shitty as how utterly lazy i am.  the library is right around the block from my house.  what's even more, i never even watched the films
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Kwyjibo on February 24, 2016, 10:26:28 AM
We just joined the Dayton Metro Library, since we now live in their service area, and I'm kind of bummed to learn that they have not yet adopted Blu-Ray, everything is DVDs.  Maybe I've become a snob, but I can hardly stand to watch grainy standard definition video anymore. 

First world problems...
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: euro60 on February 24, 2016, 11:09:26 AM
We just joined the Dayton Metro Library, since we now live in their service area, and I'm kind of bummed to learn that they have not yet adopted Blu-Ray, everything is DVDs.  Maybe I've become a snob, but I can hardly stand to watch grainy standard definition video anymore. 
It's like that in the Cincinnati/Hamilton County library system as well.

I'm guessing it's primarily a cost issue.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: foolsgold on February 24, 2016, 11:16:35 AM
I can't speak for the PLCH, but cost is a factor as well as access.  Not everyone has a Blu-Ray player, so libraries would need to buy a DVD and a Blu-Ray copy to ensure that their patrons can use the disc.  If and when Blu-Rays become the ubiquitous technology, then I'd guess libraries will make that transition.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Kwyjibo on February 24, 2016, 11:24:47 AM
Yeah, I figured that was the obvious answer, and the right one.  I don't think it'll be long before Blu-Ray is the ubiquitous format, the players are so cheap now.  But they do sell DVD players still, and they're impossibly cheap, so I guess it'll be a bit yet.

But, like I said, first world problems... there are other ways of seeing movies until the library changes over.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Dan on February 24, 2016, 01:35:28 PM
I'd guess otherwise, actually. I don't think Blu-Ray will be the ubiquitous format because it will become streaming. Blu-Ray might become the most prevalent hard copy format but I bet it'll die away before it becomes the format that libraries carry.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Cockney Rebel on February 24, 2016, 02:01:42 PM
We just joined the Dayton Metro Library, since we now live in their service area, and I'm kind of bummed to learn that they have not yet adopted Blu-Ray, everything is DVDs.  Maybe I've become a snob, but I can hardly stand to watch grainy standard definition video anymore. 
It's like that in the Cincinnati/Hamilton County library system as well.

I'm guessing it's primarily a cost issue.
You can order shitload of blurays on the SearchOH website and have them sent to any Cincinnati/Hamilton Co library. I do it all the time. I have The Godfather and Brave on their way to me right now.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Kwyjibo on February 24, 2016, 03:28:48 PM
Dayton Metro doesn't seem to participate in SearchOH.  They claim to offer ILL but it's just an online form submission, no catalog search etc.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Kwyjibo on February 24, 2016, 04:15:54 PM
I'd guess otherwise, actually. I don't think Blu-Ray will be the ubiquitous format because it will become streaming. Blu-Ray might become the most prevalent hard copy format but I bet it'll die away before it becomes the format that libraries carry.

Like Kindle has killed physical books?  I doubt physical media is going to die away quite so quickly as you might think. There are people within twenty miles of my house that don't even have an ISP available to them.  Besides there will always be people that prefer to physically own the thing. 

Maybe it will take over in the lending space, but again, due to access and cost that's not so quickly forthcoming either.  And even if libraries offer streaming services there are still costs involved to them (bandwidth, subscription fees).
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Zafer Kaya on February 24, 2016, 04:47:15 PM
Kindle IS killing off physical books.  It's just happening more slowly because most people don't buy many books in the first place.

IMO, the reason why physical media for movies might hang on a little longer is that it's always been the owners of the media that have been resistant to eliminating physical copies.  Not the consumer/end user.  That's what slows it down.

I mean people SAY that they don't want digital stuff, because people are kind of dull and resistant to change.  You have to smack them in the face with it.  But once you do, things change in a hurry.  I remember on the old WOXY boards saying physical media was silly and everyone got all up in arms about how they want to "own" their collection and would never go digital.  I'm guessing 90% of the people who felt that way haven't bought a CD in at least 5 years.

But anyway, what happened with music was that it became very cheap to make your own album.  And instead of needing to sign a record deal, and then hope your label got the record in stores, and then promote, etc.  You could just put your album on myspace/bandcamp/youtube and the whole world could here it.  And you would promote via internet as well.

So if you wanted to hear the hottest new band, after awhile that's where you went.  You went to the internet and streamed them instead.  You couldn't buy a CD of that act even if you wanted to.  And pretty soon you got used to streaming music.

There has been a huge spike in sales of self-published ebooks on Amazon, for the same reasons.  Instead of sending off your novel to 50 publishers and getting turned down, and finding an agent, etc.  Now you just write a book and pay Amazon a modest fee and it's available to the whole world.

But you can't do that with movies.  We're still a ways from the point where the average person could just grab 5 friends and make a movie.  You need way more $$$ and time than the average person has. 

I mean yeah, you have Netflix and Amazon doing stuff now that aren't traditional movie companies.  But they don't really have anything against physical media.  They just want a piece of the market.  They will ship you a DVD if that's what you really want.  Not like that isn't a part of their business already. 
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on February 24, 2016, 10:17:12 PM
Kwyj, what part of Dayton are you near?  The Centerville library system is part of SearchOhio.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Kwyjibo on February 24, 2016, 10:55:01 PM
We're on the far west side of Miami Township (the house across the street is Germantown).  Germantown has its own library too, but they are not a SearchOhio library.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: daytime drinking on April 27, 2016, 10:35:14 AM
any you library folks help a brotha and his brotha out?  my buddy and i are collaborating on a project and he found this useful tool which librarians can access (or for a nominal fee, i imagine). 

http://www.amdigital.co.uk/
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on April 27, 2016, 09:49:07 PM
The public library does not have that database, but we do have a history database that is free to library patrons to use from home/work/etc.  Not sure what exactly you're looking for in it.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: daytime drinking on April 28, 2016, 11:52:46 AM
The public library does not have that database, but we do have a history database that is free to library patrons to use from home/work/etc.  Not sure what exactly you're looking for in it.

great question.  i don't know.  my buddy is the researcher.  he spent an entire day at the main library (or whatever it's called) in new york while visiting some friends.  he loves to dig
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Kwyjibo on April 28, 2016, 03:42:53 PM
So, dumb and possibly incriminating question for you librarian types.  Libraries know and expect that people are going to rip and keep a copy of CDs that are borrowed, right?  I'm hoping musicians are getting paid, at least to some degree, for all the free music that I get...
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Zafer Kaya on April 29, 2016, 02:22:32 PM
What would make you think they'd get any money?

If it makes you feel better, you can look at it as them getting a generous 100% cut of the revenue you just generated.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Kwyjibo on April 29, 2016, 02:49:00 PM
Well, so I may have dreamed this, but I thought there was some sort of scheme involved with libraries where they paid for the right to lend something out a certain number of times, and would have to renew, or buy another copy once that was exhausted.  But again, I have no idea where I got that, or if any part of it is true.

I know I've seen librarians post somewhere here that it's expected that patrons are ripping the CDs they borrow, and that's it's kosher.  I just can't find it.  Unless I dreamed that too.  As much as artists have crabbed about streaming, you'd think they'd have the same gripes with libraries, if there isn't some sort of arrangement to get paid based on library loans.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on April 29, 2016, 09:53:14 PM
Well, so I may have dreamed this, but I thought there was some sort of scheme involved with libraries where they paid for the right to lend something out a certain number of times, and would have to renew, or buy another copy once that was exhausted.  But again, I have no idea where I got that, or if any part of it is true.

I know I've seen librarians post somewhere here that it's expected that patrons are ripping the CDs they borrow, and that's it's kosher.  I just can't find it.  Unless I dreamed that too.  As much as artists have crabbed about streaming, you'd think they'd have the same gripes with libraries, if there isn't some sort of arrangement to get paid based on library loans.

Your first part is how e-books work with libraries and most major library vendors for such material.  Each copy we buy does have a limited use and once we hit that we have to purchase it again. 

As for CDs, we've got copyright stickers around the library if people would choose to burn them at the library, but once it's out of the building I guess either 1) we don't care or 2) it's not our responsibility.  If you feel guilty, you could use Freegal, which has music which can be downloaded or streamed.  We buy a subscription and I have to assume that company has a contract with the music companies (it's mostly Sony music but not all of it).  Or you can use Hoopla, which allows you to check-out/stream albums, but does not allow you to download. 
http://www.cincinnatilibrary.org/eBranch/music.html
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Zafer Kaya on April 29, 2016, 11:03:20 PM
Books or CD's are the same.  Whoever purchases them only owns a physical copy of that book, not the copyrighted material within.  You can lend or sell your physical copy to whoever you like, but that's all.

Fair use laws allow you to reproduce material under certain strict circumstances for your own scholarly use, but burning a CD so you can enjoy it without buying it definitely isn't covered.

You can't burn a CD from the library just like you can't take a book from the library and make copies of it.  The library only has a physical copy so they have no say in the matter and cannot confer any intellectual property rights to their borrowers.  And there is no way in hell the labels would sell their intellectual property rights to libraries for the price of a discounted book or CD.  Think about how much the Beatles catalog is worth.

I'm not trying to lay a guilt trip on anyone who burns CD's.  Just saying, burning CD's from the library is no different than using Pirate Bay from a legal standpoint.

From a practical standpoint, they could never catch you.  And the library wouldn't have any liability unless they knowingly abetted you.  Otherwise they are just legally lending out their physical copy under the terms agreed to. However, if it becomes a problem the labels will simply stop allowing libraries to purchase copies from them or charge a rate that makes it impractical. 
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on August 01, 2016, 11:20:33 AM
Book Friends,

I have a friend who works for Turner Classic Movies who is in need of some help:

"Looking to get in contact with a historian, archivist, or someone working in library science in the Philadelphia area. Do I know anyone who knows somebody (who knows someone)? Thanks in advance!"

Anyone know someone they can refer for this request?

THANKS!
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: va-vacious on August 01, 2016, 11:55:13 AM
Let me check my historian friends...
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on August 01, 2016, 01:56:59 PM
va_vacious took care of me, Folks. THANKS!
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Butter on August 01, 2016, 02:11:58 PM
Oh, fine.  I'll just call back the 24 people I already called about this and tell them "false alarm".  Yeah, that'll be easy.

As long as YOU get the information that YOU need, that's all that's important.  You don't want to get into the archivist world of Philadelphia anyway.  Trust me.  Riddled with heroin and S&M. 

So I've heard.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: va-vacious on August 01, 2016, 05:24:46 PM
Thank you, Butter.
I needed that laugh after the day I've had (seriously, don't get the Philly archivists up in your business!) This is why this site is still golden.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on September 21, 2016, 06:43:32 PM
Keep forgetting to post this, but for those of you in Cincinnati, the library now has a LP record to digital conversion station in the Makerspace. 
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on December 07, 2016, 11:21:04 AM
Some of my friends are working on their latest movie, LIBRARY HOURS.

https://www.seedandspark.com/fund/libraryhoursfilm#wishlist

If you want to check out the premise or support a movie that takes place in a library, that link will help you do it.

(Maybe the first time I've promoted anything on here for funds - EVER. Thanks.)
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on December 07, 2016, 11:22:43 AM
Some of my friends are working on their latest movie, LIBRARY HOURS.

https://www.seedandspark.com/fund/libraryhoursfilm#wishlist

If you want to check out the premise or support a movie that takes place in a library, that link will help you do it.

(Maybe the first time I've promoted anything on here for funds - EVER. Thanks.)
Also, scargyle did the poster for their last movie. There is more than one r-ville connection!
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on April 11, 2017, 10:25:19 PM
New resource at the library
Kanopy: Kanopy, the Library's new streaming video service, features over 26,000 movies, documentaries, and indie and foreign films.
https://cincinnatilibrary.kanopystreaming.com/

Upcoming author visits at the library:
 o   May 9, Timothy Snyder, On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century

o   June 20, David Pepper, The People’s House

o   June 22, (contract pending) TBA

o   August 1, Jessica Strawser, Almost Missed You

o   September 8, (contract pending) TBA

o   September 28, J.D. Vance, Hillbilly Elegy: A Memoir of a Family and Culture in Crisis  (which apparently Ron Howard now wants to make movie of)

o   September 30, Jamie Ford, bestselling author of Hotel on the Corner of Bitter and Sweet and Songs of Willow Frost and Love and Other Consolation Prizes
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on April 12, 2017, 08:24:38 AM
Had a ten minute conversation with my local librarians about getting a new library card. My card is a key-fob that can't be scanned. I do NOT want a new one because I have the number memorized and use it daily to access the library's website.

Me: But, I have this number memorized.
Them: You can memorize a new one.
Me: But, this one is like my friend.
Them: You can make a new friend.

I totally became paranoid that I was being a super-old-lady-curmudgeon about this. But, I still held my ground.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Dan on April 12, 2017, 10:26:44 AM
That's me with every new credit card number.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: daytime drinking on April 12, 2017, 11:29:27 AM
aren't you kinda forced to get a new card at this point? 
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on April 12, 2017, 03:47:04 PM
Nope. I just rattle off the number and show my ID if they ask for it.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: euro60 on April 12, 2017, 04:43:30 PM
Likewise for me here in Cincinnati. I haven't had a physical library card in probably 4 or 5 years. But I've memorized the 8 digit number and that's all I'll ever need.

In contrast, my library card in Ft. Myers has so many digits (I think 14 or 16) that it's way too long to memorize...
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on April 12, 2017, 09:53:11 PM
Had a ten minute conversation with my local librarians about getting a new library card. My card is a key-fob that can't be scanned. I do NOT want a new one because I have the number memorized and use it daily to access the library's website.

Me: But, I have this number memorized.
Them: You can memorize a new one.
Me: But, this one is like my friend.
Them: You can make a new friend.

I totally became paranoid that I was being a super-old-lady-curmudgeon about this. But, I still held my ground.

What's your library--if I look at the catalog I can see if they might have this option?  Do you know/have you looked at your account online to see if they have an alternateID option?  Then you could make your current card the altID and get a replacement number that you never have to worry about.    You could also potentially print out a new barcode of your existing number and then laminate it :-)  I convert numbers to barcodes for test packets. 
I'm like euro...though my card number is about 20 years old at this point.  Have never even had a plastic card. 
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on April 13, 2017, 09:37:35 AM
Had a ten minute conversation with my local librarians about getting a new library card. My card is a key-fob that can't be scanned. I do NOT want a new one because I have the number memorized and use it daily to access the library's website.

Me: But, I have this number memorized.
Them: You can memorize a new one.
Me: But, this one is like my friend.
Them: You can make a new friend.

I totally became paranoid that I was being a super-old-lady-curmudgeon about this. But, I still held my ground.

What's your library--if I look at the catalog I can see if they might have this option?  Do you know/have you looked at your account online to see if they have an alternateID option?  Then you could make your current card the altID and get a replacement number that you never have to worry about.    You could also potentially print out a new barcode of your existing number and then laminate it :-)  I convert numbers to barcodes for test packets. 
I'm like euro...though my card number is about 20 years old at this point.  Have never even had a plastic card.
cobbcat.org

I looked at the personal account options and it is SUPER basic. You can basically change your default settings for viewing/display on the website and a default pick-up location/branch. That's about it.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Cockney Rebel on April 13, 2017, 05:36:10 PM
I can still reel off my NKY/Campbell Co 14-digit library card number. 3 years after the last time I used it.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on April 13, 2017, 10:18:25 PM
cobbcat.org

I looked at the personal account options and it is SUPER basic. You can basically change your default settings for viewing/display on the website and a default pick-up location/branch. That's about it.
OK, your library uses the system we used to use (and the one I prefer).  Based on the help available on a different library site, alternateID/username does appear to be an option, so I guess they've decided to not implement it.  You could ask them if they ever plan to implement it. 
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on April 14, 2017, 10:37:06 AM
While my county library system only believes in reading material (i.e. we can't checkout music or videos), I keep forgetting that I can get access to online databases - including the online versions of the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal. Now will I remember the next time I see a WSJ article I want to read?

Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: va-vacious on April 17, 2017, 03:45:33 PM
or since dad gets the WSJ, you could "borrow" his account?
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on April 18, 2017, 12:09:51 PM
cobbcat.org

I looked at the personal account options and it is SUPER basic. You can basically change your default settings for viewing/display on the website and a default pick-up location/branch. That's about it.
OK, your library uses the system we used to use (and the one I prefer).  Based on the help available on a different library site, alternateID/username does appear to be an option, so I guess they've decided to not implement it.  You could ask them if they ever plan to implement it.
THANKS!
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on May 31, 2017, 12:45:20 AM
Upcoming author visits at the library:

o   June 20, David Pepper, The People’s House

o   June 22, Jane Green, The Sunshine Sisters

o   August 1, Jessica Strawser, Almost Missed You

o   September 8, Jay Asher

o   September 28, J.D. Vance, Hillbilly Elegy: A Memoir of a Family and Culture in Crisis  (which apparently Ron Howard now wants to make movie of)

o   September 30, Jamie Ford, bestselling author of Hotel on the Corner of Bitter and Sweet and Songs of Willow Frost and Love and Other Consolation Prizes
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: euro60 on May 31, 2017, 09:45:00 AM
Trixi, at which library location(s) are these events?

And as to JD Vance's book Hillbilly Elegy:

1. If you haven't read it yet, DROP EVERYTHING and get it from the library. NOW!

2. It's not "apparently". Ron Howard is in fact making this into a movie.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on May 31, 2017, 12:20:25 PM
trixi,
Don't use "apparently" errantly.

c-lando,
Don't use errantly when you mean erroneously.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on May 31, 2017, 07:23:54 PM
Well when I wrote that originally, it wasn't definite that he was going to make the movie  :-)  All the events are at the Main library. 
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: euro60 on June 01, 2017, 12:44:55 AM
I hope to be there on September 28!
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Zafer Kaya on June 08, 2017, 11:10:05 PM
Should I like, get out of Overdrive in favor of Hoopla?
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Kwyjibo on June 09, 2017, 01:16:57 PM
I thought they were separate things?  Our library advertises Overdrive as being for books and audiobooks, and Hoopla as being for music.  Does Hoopla also do books/audio books?  I've never used it.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Zafer Kaya on June 09, 2017, 02:17:13 PM
There is no difference in media (at least theoretically, I suppose individual libraries can set their own policies).  I think they are just different models.

Hoopla is like on-demand/rental.  So the libraries pay a fee to Hoopla for every checkout.  But that means that anyone can check out anything at any time, because they get paid every time.  And me using a book/video/whatever doesn't stop anyone else from using the same title.  But because the more you check out, the more it costs them they will cap you on how many things you can check out on Hoopla a month.

Whereas Overdrive, the library actually buys a copy of the book/video/whatever.  So, it's like the old school library style.  It doesn't matter if I check out 200 books a month.  The cost to the library is the same.  They already bought all the books.  It doesn't cost them more for me to read them.  But then, I'm kind of hogging all the books from other patrons, so they put caps on it anyway.

Hoopla seems like the better model to me because I only read 4-5 books a month.  On Overdrive I will often end up with 15 or 20 books in a month.  Because I had some things waitlisted and they all became available at once.  Or because I can't get the book I actually wanted, so I get two books I think I might like and then "return" the one that isn't that good.  Which I suppose, is kind of convenient for me but results in extra books being out.

But I have heard that Hoopla is really expensive for libraries, so I'm not going to use it if is costing them a ton of money.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on June 10, 2017, 11:14:55 AM
We have music, videos and ebooks with Hoopla.  ZK explains the differences very well.  Here are links to our pages that is a comparison of what each service provides and how:
http://www.cincinnatilibrary.org/eBranch/movies_tv.html
http://www.cincinnatilibrary.org/eBranch/music.html
http://www.cincinnatilibrary.org/eBranch/ebooks.html
http://www.cincinnatilibrary.org/eBranch/audiobooks.html

The big difference with music is that with Freegal, you can download and the music is yours to keep.  With Hoopla, it is only streaming. 
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 18, 2017, 10:31:48 AM
I was disappointed to find that the Cincinnati Library didn't have a copy of The Bears "Car Caught Fire."  They had several other Bears records, but not that one.  I never picked up a copy when it was new.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on September 18, 2017, 09:53:26 PM
We probably had it at some point, but then the copies were either damaged or permanently checked out by a patron. 
Use this:  http://www.cincinnatilibrary.org/purchase.aspx
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Kwyjibo on September 19, 2017, 01:57:37 PM
permanently checked out by a patron. 

That's a diplomatic way of putting it.  I actually figured one of those things probably happened myself.  I'll suggest that they buy, but it looks like an ebay item at this point.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on October 03, 2017, 10:26:13 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UsglJmevFM

Hoping every library ends up getting this for circulation...
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on October 03, 2017, 11:29:42 AM
It must be killing my coworker (a former NYPL employee) that he wasn't a part of this.  I think I know the first person to answer the phone...not sure though...and imdb doesn't list the "actors". 
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on October 03, 2017, 12:07:08 PM
It must be killing my coworker (a former NYPL employee) that he wasn't a part of this.  I think I know the first person to answer the phone...not sure though...and imdb doesn't list the "actors".
Bummer. Maybe you can find the "cast" somewhere.
It looks SOOOOOOOOOOOOO good!
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: va-vacious on October 04, 2017, 08:32:25 PM
Lando, we should watch it together!
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on October 05, 2017, 08:08:48 AM
Lando, we should watch it together!
YES! If we can find it!
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on October 06, 2017, 08:39:22 PM
Road trip to ATL for me!  ;-)
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: va-vacious on October 14, 2017, 09:54:07 PM
Join us, Trixi!
We'll have to figure out where to find it, for sure.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on October 16, 2017, 08:37:30 AM
Road trip to ATL for me!  ;-)
The Year of Trixi: Southern Edition!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on October 17, 2017, 08:57:28 PM
Road trip to ATL for me!  ;-)
The Year of Trixi: Southern Edition!!!!!!!!!!!
Sounds like a plan!  My year has not included the south yet.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: va-vacious on October 19, 2017, 08:49:44 PM
Clearly you need to remedy that!
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on November 01, 2017, 10:20:07 PM
For those of you in the Columbus and Cincinnati area.  Some of the Columbus (including CML) libraries are joining SearchOhio in mid-December.  Once that happens, we can borrow from each others' systems.  CR---this does mean more Blu-ray options for you.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Kwyjibo on November 02, 2017, 12:19:58 AM
Sweet!
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Cockney Rebel on November 19, 2017, 11:28:06 PM
For those of you in the Columbus and Cincinnati area.  Some of the Columbus (including CML) libraries are joining SearchOhio in mid-December.  Once that happens, we can borrow from each others' systems.  CR---this does mean more Blu-ray options for you.
Brill!
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on December 09, 2017, 10:08:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF2NOf3EkgE
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on December 15, 2017, 11:15:41 PM
Author visit:
http://cincinnatilibrary.org/news/2017/neilgaiman.html
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Dan on December 16, 2017, 05:02:35 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on December 23, 2017, 03:16:55 PM
FYI:  Columbus Metro, et al. have decided to delay their joining of SearchOhio to late January.  Not sure why it's taking them so long.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on February 02, 2018, 12:07:27 AM
Columbus Metro went live last week....this added about 2 million records to the SearchOhio Catalog. 
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on March 05, 2018, 02:00:36 PM
http://www.smithjournal.com.au/blogs/history/2207-forget-google-ask-a-librarian

Or the NYPL Instagram account:
https://www.instagram.com/nypl/

Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on March 29, 2018, 10:17:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UsglJmevFM

Hoping every library ends up getting this for circulation...
The Mercantile Library here is screening this in April.  Unfortunately I will not be in town.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Poolio on March 30, 2018, 07:54:27 AM
http://www.smithjournal.com.au/blogs/history/2207-forget-google-ask-a-librarian
HA! That's wonderful. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: foolsgold on April 11, 2018, 09:18:00 AM
It's National Library Week and every year the library has a guess how many bookworms (gummi worms) there are in a tall mason jar.  It's probably my favorite student interactions of the year because I enjoy the amount of work they put into their guess.  For example, this morning a guy came in and ask me for a ruler.  He spent the next 5 minutes measuring, hefting, closely examining and counting all while writing down figures.  Once his inspection was finished, he went to a table and took another 5 minutes or so working through his calculations.  Proudly, he submitted his guess and walked out walking the walk of someone who knew that he beat the system.  After he was out of sight, I checked his calculations and he was off by over 300. 
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Dan on April 11, 2018, 09:16:44 PM
It's National Library Week and every year the library has a guess how many bookworms (gummi worms) there are in a tall mason jar.  It's probably my favorite student interactions of the year because I enjoy the amount of work they put into their guess.  For example, this morning a guy came in and ask me for a ruler.  He spent the next 5 minutes measuring, hefting, closely examining and counting all while writing down figures.  Once his inspection was finished, he went to a table and took another 5 minutes or so working through his calculations.  Proudly, he submitted his guess and walked out walking the walk of someone who knew that he beat the system.  After he was out of sight, I checked his calculations and he was off by over 300. 

This makes me smile. Thanks!
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Zafer Kaya on April 11, 2018, 10:27:19 PM
I’m gonna guess he was low?
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: foolsgold on April 12, 2018, 07:51:17 AM
He was over.  I was just talking with a coworker and the guy has been in several times revising his guesses.  Each time, he adjusts his original guess by a dozen or so.  In a lot of ways, he reminds me of when I would take higher mathematic courses (geometry, calculus, trig) and would have an absolute blast working through the formulas.  However, pretty much every time I'd turn my test or homework in, my answers were never close. 
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Butter on April 12, 2018, 08:21:56 AM
So how many are in there?  Asking for a friend
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: foolsgold on April 12, 2018, 08:29:21 AM
Guess. The worms are 4 inches long and the jar holds 64 ounces.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: luisterpaul on April 12, 2018, 09:11:49 AM
On Getting Punched in the Face While Working at the Library (Happy National Library Week!) (https://medium.com/@stevekemple/on-getting-punched-in-the-face-while-working-at-the-library-happy-national-library-week-60de1a5e2897)
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on April 12, 2018, 09:23:41 AM
Guess. The worms are 4 inches long and the jar holds 64 ounces.
Butter prefers tin cans to jars. Next.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: foolsgold on April 12, 2018, 09:44:05 AM
On Getting Punched in the Face While Working at the Library (Happy National Library Week!) (https://medium.com/@stevekemple/on-getting-punched-in-the-face-while-working-at-the-library-happy-national-library-week-60de1a5e2897)

Steve's a friend and the guy is an absolute treasure to the PLCH.  His ideas for outreach and engagement have been so well received in the system and are a ton of fun for the patrons.  He has hosted an experimental music night, has a CD of the month club and used to wander around the stacks wearing a gorilla outfit.  The good work he's done for the Price Hill library and for that community is truly amazing.  I'm not at all surprised by his reaction to the assault and the presence of mind to stand by his principles.  He's a great example and leader and someone I hope can continue to help steer public librarianship into this age.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on April 12, 2018, 10:21:16 AM
On Getting Punched in the Face While Working at the Library (Happy National Library Week!) (https://medium.com/@stevekemple/on-getting-punched-in-the-face-while-working-at-the-library-happy-national-library-week-60de1a5e2897)

Steve's a friend and the guy is an absolute treasure to the PLCH.  His ideas for outreach and engagement have been so well received in the system and are a ton of fun for the patrons.  He has hosted an experimental music night, has a CD of the month club and used to wander around the stacks wearing a gorilla outfit.  The good work he's done for the Price Hill library and for that community is truly amazing.  I'm not at all surprised by his reaction to the assault and the presence of mind to stand by his principles.  He's a great example and leader and someone I hope can continue to help steer public librarianship into this age.

That was a great read.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: va-vacious on April 18, 2018, 10:55:59 PM
that made me tear up- what an incredible story.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: luisterpaul on April 24, 2018, 07:49:43 AM
that made me tear up- what an incredible story.
I know, right? Me, too.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Butter on April 24, 2018, 10:37:55 AM
Guess. The worms are 4 inches long and the jar holds 64 ounces.

647
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: foolsgold on April 25, 2018, 11:16:39 AM
225
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on April 25, 2018, 02:28:18 PM
...Meaning foolsgold ate 422.

Wait, those weren't dried apricots.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Zafer Kaya on April 26, 2018, 01:24:23 AM
How hard can it be?

1). Determine volume of gummy worm.
2). Determine volume of jar or however much the jar is filled with gummy worms.
3). Divide.
4). Make a half-ass adjustment for the compressibility and stackability of gummy worms.

Because your adjustment is half-ass, you won’t get the right answer.  But no amount of measuring and math is going to get you any closer.  It’s just not that complex a problem.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: foolsgold on April 26, 2018, 07:46:13 AM
Only one person got within 50 worms of the correct answer and she guessed 226.  I think most entries were guesses, but a couple, like that ruler guy, did spend some time working out an answer that wasn't even close.  Maybe they didn't carry the 1.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on May 08, 2018, 12:14:18 PM
scargyle's awesdome drawing of the day:

<iframe src="https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fmeganlovestodraw%2Fphotos%2Fa.223365671378331.1073741828.223319518049613%2F568938416821053%2F%3Ftype%3D3&width=500" width="500" height="633" style="border:none;overflow:hidden" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allowTransparency="true" allow="encrypted-media"></iframe>
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on May 08, 2018, 12:14:53 PM
scargyle's awesdome drawing of the day:

<iframe src="https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fmeganlovestodraw%2Fphotos%2Fa.223365671378331.1073741828.223319518049613%2F568938416821053%2F%3Ftype%3D3&width=500" width="500" height="633" style="border:none;overflow:hidden" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allowTransparency="true" allow="encrypted-media"></iframe>

Whoa. That link looks messy. Can you guys see the artwork when you click on it?
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Butter on May 08, 2018, 01:12:21 PM
scargyle's awesdome drawing of the day:

<iframe src="https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fmeganlovestodraw%2Fphotos%2Fa.223365671378331.1073741828.223319518049613%2F568938416821053%2F%3Ftype%3D3&width=500" width="500" height="633" style="border:none;overflow:hidden" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allowTransparency="true" allow="encrypted-media"></iframe>

Whoa. That link looks messy. Can you guys see the artwork when you click on it?

Affirmative.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on May 24, 2018, 10:50:00 PM
Author visit:
Ron Chernow--Mon, Oct 15
http://www.cincinnatilibrary.org/news/2018/ronchernow.html
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on May 25, 2018, 08:10:20 AM
Author visit:
Ron Chernow--Mon, Oct 15
http://www.cincinnatilibrary.org/news/2018/ronchernow.html

WHOA.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: daytime drinking on June 22, 2018, 02:45:26 PM
with dewey gone and people requesting books and shit online, are librarians more important than ever?  is it any different than amazon?  i love when i'm checking out and some book will come to mind and the librarian will sleuth it out for me.  i read a list of quentin tarantino's favorite movies in a playboy and i wrote one them done once.  on a lark i queried the librarian and he spent a considerable amount of time locating it.  i kept saying to not worry about it but he seemed to really enjoy doing it.  i forgot to mention that i was going to be out of the country for the next couple of weeks and i should probably do this then.  it's unfortunately what i do 
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: noonan on August 07, 2018, 02:13:33 PM
...i queried the librarian and he spent a considerable amount of time locating it.  i kept saying to not worry about it but he seemed to really enjoy doing it. ...

^^
This has been basically 100% of my interaction with librarians in the past few years. They also personally reco music once a month, which just feels cooler than an algorithm.

The physical space adds a lot too. My nerdier daughter likes to go just to wander around and hang out.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: noonan on August 09, 2018, 10:47:05 AM
Dream job.
https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/librarian-detectives-forgotten-books (https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/librarian-detectives-forgotten-books)
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on August 09, 2018, 11:58:04 AM
Dream job.
https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/librarian-detectives-forgotten-books (https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/librarian-detectives-forgotten-books)

“This is where librarians get librarian-y.”
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on August 09, 2018, 02:15:16 PM
When old is new again.  I, for one, am thrilled about this because I treasure my vinyl.    New vinyl being purchased...woohoo!

https://www.cincinnatilibrary.org/spotlight/newarrivals.asp?id=vinyl
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: va-vacious on March 13, 2019, 12:10:50 AM
I just got my FOURTH library card last week!
- County I live in
- Town I live in
- Place I work (complete with JStor!)
and now...
- County I work in!

Yes, it's probably excessive, but I drive right past a Fulton County library on the way home, and have often wanted to have access to it so I could stop and browse/check out on bad commute days.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on March 13, 2019, 12:54:32 AM
The more cards the better!
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on March 13, 2019, 08:00:04 AM
The more cards the better!

CARDS *FOR* HUMANITY!
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: euro60 on March 30, 2019, 11:36:35 PM
I have two library cards: one for the Cincinnati/Hamilton County library system, and one for the Lee County (Ft. Meyers, FL) system.

I have lived in Cincinnati for 32 years, yet it wasn't until I dated someone in the late 90s who opened my eyes to the library system. It opened a universe to me that I didn't even know existed. We eventually broke up, but it was the best gift she ever gave me. I go to the Blue Ash library a LOT.

As to the Lee County, Fl system: it floored me. I spend a lot of time there in the winter months. It is so much better than the Cincinnati system in so many ways. Spacious, modern, better organized, and lots of better computer access. Compared to that, the Cincinnati/Hamilton County system pales, frankly. Which is a surprise in so many ways, as the tax base here is so much larger.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on April 16, 2019, 10:06:43 AM
WTF, Library???
I checked my online account yesterday and my hold queue for the digital library and the actual library are completely cleared. I thought it was a site issue so I decided not to sweat it and figured I'd log back in today and look at it. Yep, still all cleared out.

For giggles, I logged into the "classic" version of the website and it informed me that my card expired on 4/10/19. Why the hell would that make them remove all of my holds?  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Kwyjibo on April 16, 2019, 10:35:09 AM
Why do library cards expire?  That's my question.  I had to renew mine recently.  I can understand purging inactive users, but that certainly doesn't describe anyone in my household.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on April 16, 2019, 01:45:31 PM
Why do library cards expire?  That's my question.  I had to renew mine recently.  I can understand purging inactive users, but that certainly doesn't describe anyone in my household.
I guess they want to make sure you're still a resident within their service area? Since they require something current with your address on it in order to renew your membership.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Kwyjibo on April 16, 2019, 01:55:30 PM
My library didn't validate anything.  I just handed them my card (actually my phone with the card's barcode on it) and they renewed me no questions asked.  I could have been Bonnie Prince Charlie for all they knew.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on April 16, 2019, 02:22:39 PM
My library didn't validate anything.  I just handed them my card (actually my phone with the card's barcode on it) and they renewed me no questions asked.  I could have been Bonnie Prince Charlie for all they knew.
Then, no clue for your library. "We just want to be dicks?"
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: foolsgold on April 16, 2019, 03:23:21 PM
Outside of shushing people and putting our hair in buns, there is nothing else librarians love to do than dream up ways to piss people off.  Next to overdue fines, the whole expiring library card is one of the finest examples of that.  The origins of this practice can be traced all the way back to the 14th century when, famously snarky Lady Chesty of Lanchestershireton tried to check out Chaucer's latest bestseller, A Seaman's Trail.  Piebald the Persnickety, head librarian of the Lickenton Over Harble branch library didn't like her attitude and denied the check out claiming her card was a fortnight overdue.  Although Piebald was beheaded later that day by Lady Chesty's husband, the Duke Fingerbottom, librarians throughout the country implemented this practice in protest. 

Widespread implementation of expiring cards occured after a a secret international cabal of librarians gathered at their annual gathering to discuss ways to annoy and frustrate their patrons*.  Like a literary pandemic, the practice soon spread across the land and, before long, became de rigueur.

* also discussed in this gathering: how to maximize discomfort in a library's seating options and packing card catalog drawers so tightly that they become functionally useless.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on April 16, 2019, 03:51:03 PM
Outside of shushing people and putting our hair in buns, there is nothing else librarians love to do than dream up ways to piss people off.  Next to overdue fines, the whole expiring library card is one of the finest examples of that.  The origins of this practice can be traced all the way back to the 14th century when, famously snarky Lady Chesty of Lanchestershireton tried to check out Chaucer's latest bestseller, A Seaman's Trail.  Piebald the Persnickety, head librarian of the Lickenton Over Harble branch library didn't like her attitude and denied the check out claiming her card was a fortnight overdue.  Although Piebald was beheaded later that day by Lady Chesty's husband, the Duke Fingerbottom, librarians throughout the country implemented this practice in protest. 

Widespread implementation of expiring cards occured after a a secret international cabal of librarians gathered at their annual gathering to discuss ways to annoy and frustrate their patrons*.  Like a literary pandemic, the practice soon spread across the land and, before long, became de rigueur.

* also discussed in this gathering: how to maximize discomfort in a library's seating options and packing card catalog drawers so tightly that they become functionally useless.

GSPotD.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: trixi on April 17, 2019, 12:26:57 AM
Our cards automatically extend for you every time you use the card, whether it be for checking out materials, logging onto a research database or anything else that authenticates use of the card.  The only cards we don't have do this are the people who are paying for the card and a couple of other cards that are short term or have special borrowing privileges.  The only way your card expires is if you don't use it for 5 years or you turn 18.  Our holds don't disappear either. 
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on April 18, 2019, 01:47:48 PM
WTF, Library???
I checked my online account yesterday and my hold queue for the digital library and the actual library are completely cleared. I thought it was a site issue so I decided not to sweat it and figured I'd log back in today and look at it. Yep, still all cleared out.

For giggles, I logged into the "classic" version of the website and it informed me that my card expired on 4/10/19. Why the hell would that make them remove all of my holds?  >:( >:( >:(

I went in yesterday to pay my $2.10 in fines and renew my card. The lady looked at me like I was crazy when I told her that my holds had all disappeared. But, she took my money and renewed my card (just made me verify my name, address, and phone number verbally) and told me that she could renew my holds for me if I wanted. I told her that I had no idea what I had on hold and I'd have to do it myself at a later date. Just checked my account and all of my holds and checked-out items are visible again. So weird.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Kwyjibo on April 18, 2019, 02:34:54 PM
Outside of shushing people and putting our hair in buns, there is nothing else librarians love to do than dream up ways to piss people off.

If you're not so subtly trying to tell me that this is a first world problem, I'd have to concede the point.  I didn't meant that to be as complainy as it sounded.  Libraries are generally the one place I don't find to be an enormous hassle, and the folks at our library generally go out of their way to fulfill all my first world expectations.  I just don't understand expiring the card with no obvious purpose.

I miss those kinds of posts, so thank you for that.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: daytime drinking on April 18, 2019, 10:55:33 PM
we were at storytime the other week at the northside branch and the moms and i got to chatting.  that library film was topic du jour.  one mom said that downtown librarians are trained to administer narcan.  any yall? 
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: foolsgold on April 19, 2019, 08:27:15 AM
I wasn't pointing fingers at you, Kwyj.  I was just trying to be silly.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Dan on April 19, 2019, 10:13:39 AM
I was just trying to be silly.

Goal achieved!

My favorite experiences in a library were all when I needed to find something and didn't really know how to do so. Then I asked a librarian, and whoever the librarian was ended up spending like 45 minutes with me getting resources, digging up leads, and making good suggestions. I always felt a little bit like ...
A) they were doing my homework for me, which I then in turn felt like I was abusing the system and thus felt guilty
B) I was wasting their time because it wasn't the end of the world - just a simple request - and they still spent ALL THAT TIME on it
C) they were in their happy place and that my request absolutely made their day better

It's a very strange experience. Librarians are a breed apart.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: Kwyjibo on April 19, 2019, 03:22:33 PM
I wasn't pointing fingers at you, Kwyj.  I was just trying to be silly.

All good, I took it as such for the most part.  You wouldn't have been wrong to poke at me.
Title: Re: Library talk
Post by: c-lando on April 22, 2019, 08:30:56 AM
I wasn't pointing fingers at you, Kwyj.  I was just trying to be silly.

All good, I took it as such for the most part.  You wouldn't have been wrong to poke at me.

Poking is for Facebook.