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Title: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: euro60 on December 23, 2018, 01:50:57 AM
Yeah, interesting deal.

I still think the Reds should be rebuilding, and this deal moves them in the opposite direction.  So it is easy at firstly blush to just slam this trade.

But OTOH, they aren't taking on any long term obligations.  I think Puig is a bit of a headcase who might blow up in the Reds' face. But I meN, you have to take a bit of a risk.  If Puig weren't who he is, there's no way he'd be abailable.

The Puig risk us offset by Kemp, who I think is a pretty cool guy.  Unfgirtinstely, I think the tank is empty.  But I think he us still an asset.  He's no MVP, but could still be a monster 4th OF/bench bat.

Wood is a great pitcher if he can stay healthy which I seriously doubt he will.  But I'm not going to fing the Reds fir that.  If he could pitch 200 IP reliably with a 3-ish ERS, he wouldn't be on the market

On paper,this team looks competitive if you assume health and repeat performances of last year.  Not favorites, but possibly righting therw.  The problem is there is a ton more downside from that baseline than there is upside.

It is a good trade if you want to take a stab at winning.  If it does not work, you just set back your rebuild one year.  Maybe not even, if they can flip some of those players if they are out of it.  And maybe some if the young players benefit from veteran presence.  They did not blow up the farm system, just dinged it a bit.

I would be grudgingly okay with this trade if I were a Reds fan.  I'd prefer them rebuild, but if they do not want to do that this is the next best thing.

That offense will not be quite as good as you think it is, though. Sure, they will put some points on the board in that park, but so will their opponents.

I have to say I was nothing short of stunned, STUNNED, when I heard about this trade.

I mean, the economics are very hard to grasp, if they are to grasp at all. I surely don't understand them. (Neither does Reds CEO Bob Castellini when asked about by the Enquirer's sports columnist.)

But I will admit that it grabbed my attention, something the Reds haven't done in a loooooong time.

Worst case scenario: Kemp, Puig, and Wood stay here for a year and then are gone. But it should make the Reds immediately "competitive" in the stacked NL Central. Something they haven't done in the last 4 years (and with dramatic attendance falloff to boot). Honestly, I had no intend to attend but more than 1 or 2 games (probably work-related) in 2019, but now? I might go to a few, even some more, if the Reds aren't out of contention after the first month or so, as they have been in recent years.

Bottom line: this is the biggest trade in Reds Country since Griffey Jr., and that was.... 19 years ago, yes, 19 years ago!
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: daytime drinking on December 23, 2018, 08:41:15 AM
or maybe since the mat latos deal.  that's the last time i can remember we razed the farm.  yonder alonso, yasmani grandal, didi gregorius, brad boxberger if memory serves me.  all those guys turned into quality everyday players.  latos surely proved worth even after he was traded.  got disco.  when healthy he's a middle of the road starter.  and latos is out of the league before he turned thirty 
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Zafer Kaya on December 23, 2018, 10:22:52 AM
The Dodgers are drowning in talent.  Alex Verdugo has spent two seasons in AAA now, and he is probably an above average MLB OF.  I donít mean potentially.  I mean he already is.

People keep talking about how the Dodgers that got traded were on their last year, but the reality is the contracts did not matter.  These were guys the Dodgers were trying to get rid of anyway.  They are headaches to have on your team.  If Wood is healthy you kind of have to start him, but you cannot count on him to be healthy.  Puig is a headcase.  Itís awkward to bench Kemp but the truth is he is probably done.

So the Dodgers are so good that despite losing some quality players this is a bit of addition by subtraction for them.  And they free up salary cap money to bring in a stud FA.  And got a couple of pieces for the future to keep their farm stocked. 
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: daytime drinking on December 24, 2018, 08:42:12 AM
you'd be hard pressed to find any red fan not who doesn't like this trade.  kemp had a pedestrian second half but he's not going to play everyday so whatever production he can give is a plus.  awesome pinch hitter i imagine he will be
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: daytime drinking on January 29, 2019, 09:27:42 AM
man, if we only lose that india kid to get realmuto, hot damn 
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 29, 2019, 11:12:42 AM
If you could get Realmuto for just India (or India as the centerpiece) that would be a steal. 

Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: euro60 on March 07, 2019, 10:37:53 PM
I happen to watch a bit of the Reds' pre-season game tonight.

Can anyone explain to me the new weird crest on the Reds uniform? Is is something to do with the Reds' 150 season?
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: foolsgold on March 08, 2019, 07:04:10 AM
https://www.mlb.com/cut4/the-reds-will-have-15-throwback-uniforms-in-2019-c300273754
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Butter on March 12, 2019, 08:22:15 AM
To distract you from the fact that they're still not going to be good.
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Zafer Kaya on March 12, 2019, 11:37:37 AM
Yeah... I don't know. 

On the plus side:  The Reds should be a lot better.  IMO, the NL Central probably isn't as strong this year as last year.

On the minus side:  There's plenty of room for the Reds to be "a lot better" and still not be very good.  The NL Central was unreal last year, so a small step back still yields an insanely competitive and fairly strong division.

I was looking at the projected standings in Fangraphs and they had the Reds at exactly .500.  That seems to be the strong consensus amongst most sites.  Which seems about right to me.  They would finish 7 games behind the Cubs.  But that's not THAT much.  It wouldn't be a shock for the Cubs to be worse than expected and the Reds better and they make up that 7 games.  Except the Reds are also projected to finish behind the Brewers and the Cardinals.  That's how everyone has them-- right around .500 and finishing in 4th place.  So they need either need a bunch of teams to underachieve, or they need to be way better than than projected. 

They have like, a chance.  Just not a very good one.  But they didn't screw themselves over in the long-term to improve the team, so that's good.  They had the option of either just punting this year and taking the high draft picks, or committing some money and giving themselves a half-chance.  They picked the second option and it could work out.  If you're out of the race near at the deadline, you trade the guys you just got for... not a lot but if your scouting is good you can get some good players out of the B level prospects they will get offered.

I have no problem with what they did this offseason.  It didn't really hurt them, and it could end up being a clever strategy.  You just have to trust that the Reds know what they're doing now, and won't try to extend the players or refuse to trade them.  Which is the part I have trouble with.  Because you can also kinda look at this offseason as the Reds once again looking to fading/questionable vets as short-term fixes that never work, and they just kind of got some halfway decent guys this time.  So they are perfecting their strategy, but not addressing the larger problem that the strategy isn't a very good one.

Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Zafer Kaya on March 23, 2019, 06:52:10 PM
People need to quit complaining about Senzel.  If you can trade two weeks without a player as a rookie for one full year of that player in his prime, you do it every time.

I would leave Senzel down for two weeks even with Gennett hurt.  Senzel should definitely be super angry because he just got screwed out of a year of free agency.  But his loss is the Redsí gain.

Plus, heís coming off an injury that stopped him from playing for half a season and heís learning a new position.  So a few weeks to get in the groove kinda makes sense even without service time issues. 

Phil Ervin is probably getting screwed more than Senzel.  I bet Scheblerís agent is not complaining about service time manipulation.

Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: euro60 on March 23, 2019, 10:49:46 PM
Scooter Gennett being out for 2-3 months is a major bummer for the Reds. He was arguably the Reds' best player last year.

I don't know what to make of the Senzel situation, to be honest.

I just hope that the Gennett injury isn't a forbearance of the Reds' season <sigh>
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: daytime drinking on March 24, 2019, 09:49:24 AM
derek dietrich is scooter 2.0
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: euro60 on April 03, 2019, 05:56:33 PM
Is the Reds' season over already? They have looked absolutely horrendous, playing with the energy of a dead door nail (did I just make up a new word?).

The attendance (other than Opening Day) has matched accordingly. Check out these jaw dropping numbers (remember, these are not actual attendance numbers, but tickets sold):

Monday 4/1: 7,799 (all-time new record low for GABP)
Tuesday 4/2: 10,195
Today: 13,439

I look out at GABP from my office and frankly you could barely tell that there have been games going on these last 3 days. Absolutely amazing.
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: daytime drinking on April 03, 2019, 10:06:18 PM
it's pretty funny.  hunter green's getting tugged and apathy is slowly setting in.  pro sports in this city suck balls.  thank god for college hoops 
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: euro60 on April 03, 2019, 10:46:26 PM
it's pretty funny.  hunter green's getting tugged and apathy is slowly setting in.  pro sports in this city suck balls.  thank god for FC Cincinnati
corrected that for you ;=)
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: daytime drinking on April 03, 2019, 10:56:49 PM
forgot about them.  hope it works out
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Zafer Kaya on April 04, 2019, 10:43:45 AM
I mean, you can't write off a team based on five games. But it really wouldn't be that much of a shock if the Reds sucked this year.  Sonny Gray had a near 5.00 ERA last year, and Roark is the kind of fifth starter type that lives on the margin and could just massively suck at any time.  He loses like .25 mph off his crappy fastball or the tiniest sliver of command and he's awful.

I think Winker will be good, Senzel will be good if he's ever healthy, and Ervin might be pretty good.  I don't think Castillo will be a real Kershaw ace but he's pretty good and ace-like in streaks a la Cueto.  DeSclafini is probably pretty good if he can stay healthy.  So they do have some decent and/or exciting pieces.  They deserve a little better attendance than they are getting based on the talent on paper. 

But I think everyone has just kind of written the franchise and Castellini.  It's like even if they sort of luck their way into being semi-decent this year everyone knows they'll just fuck it up so why bother getting your hopes up? 
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: euro60 on April 04, 2019, 10:48:35 PM
I mean, you can't write off a team based on five games.
What about after six games?

Anyhow, whatever interest I had in the Reds with that monster trade with the Dodgers (and other moves) in the off-season has pretty much disappeared. My big worry now is how am I going to fill our firm's suite at GABP with clients that I've signed up for in June? Seems like a long time away. A worry for another day, I suppose.

Meanwhile, client interest in our suite for FCC games is at an all time high. I'm hosting on May 11, and have plenty of clients already on board for that.
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Butter on April 05, 2019, 07:21:32 AM
If the hitting comes around, the Reds will actually be mediocre this year.  Just everybody coming out hitting like crap is really just bad luck. 

That said, I still watched women's tennis and the NIT final last night rather than the Reds game.  Sloane Stephens and Ajla Tomljanovich.  It was a good match!  And I knew the Reds would fuck it up anyway, which they did.
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: euro60 on April 05, 2019, 11:24:04 PM
And I knew the Reds would fuck it up anyway, which they did.
And they did again tonight. 3rd time shut out, first this happened since 1989, yes 30 years ago, and yes this is how bad it is right now.

Incidentally, I love watching tennis too. Watched the Miami Open here and there.
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Zafer Kaya on April 17, 2019, 12:04:34 AM
Is it me, or is David Bell a really shitty manager?

I donít have a problem with Votto batting first, per se.  Or really anywhere else.  But pickup a lineup and batting order and stick with it. 
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: euro60 on April 17, 2019, 10:40:29 PM
Reds swept by the Dodgers. <sigh>

Seemingly settling into last place comfortably indeed.
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: euro60 on April 30, 2019, 11:00:11 PM
Reds still in last place, but showing signs of life. Darn that they lose tonight at the Mets in extra innings... What is wrong with closer Iglesias, so reliable in 17-18?
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Zafer Kaya on May 01, 2019, 02:58:36 PM
I would guess nothing is wrong with Iglesias. 

Iglesias has always been a little over-rated, IMO.  He walks a few too many, and he gives up too many flyballs in a bad park to give up flyballs.  TBF, that's the case with a shit-ton of closers.  Iglesias is a perfectly fine, generally reliable, better-than-average closer.  If you have him, there's no need to spend a bunch of money trying to improve that position.

I'm just saying, he's not at the level where a few blown saves should make anyone think he's injured or something drastic has happened.  Naw... he's just a very good but not great closer, and very good but not great closers will inexplicably suck for stretches.  Something goes off with their mechanics, they suck for a bit, they figure it out, and then it's like nothing ever happened the whole rest of the season.

Team looks better without Kemp in the lineup.  Hopefully his injury is worse than they thought.  Now you just have to hope Schlebler runs into a wall.
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: daytime drinking on May 02, 2019, 03:33:38 PM
senzel is supposed to come up i guess this weekend which will mean schebby gets sent down.  if that's an option
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Zafer Kaya on May 02, 2019, 04:00:05 PM
It doesn't make sense to send Schebler down, actually.  It's not like he just needs some AAA seasoning and he'll get better.  This is all he is and will ever be.  He's a crappy bat off the bench.  He just shouldn't be starting.

They will probably send down Ervin, who probably could use the everyday AB's.  Or one of their shitty relievers.  Or DFA Zach Duke.  DFA Puig and Kemp while you're at it.  Derek Dietrich can go.  They are carrying three shitty catchers, any one of them can go.  There are basically like 15 spots on the 25 man roster that are useless.

They had ONE really good prospect and ONE really good, tradeable player nearing the end of his contract.  They happen to play the same position.  So common sense dictates you trade Gennett and that frees up a position for Senzel, and you get back an outfield prospect in return so now you have TWO good prospects and someone to play OF instead of a faded, over-priced vet.

People are going to criticize the Reds for the moves they made in the offseason.  But none of those moves really hurt them.  It's the moves they didn't make at the trade deadline to build a core.  In the offseason all they did was throw some money at some dudes like why not?  It looked impressive, but it really didn't help or hurt them that much at all.





Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: euro60 on May 02, 2019, 10:47:21 PM
So the Reds beat the Mets 1-0 last night, and then turn right back around, and lose 1-0 today, by a home run of the opposing pitcher, who incidentally then goes 9 innings to end the affair. Wow.

Reds starting pitching has been a pleasant surprise.

OTOH, the power drop-off of Joey Votto has become a major concern. I mean, the guy has 5, count them, 5 RBIs to date, 6 weeks into the season. I love the guy, but wow.... The Enquirer's sport columnist, Doc, had a write-up about it a few days ago, and looked at Votto's astonishing power drop-off after the 2017 season (when Votto finished 2nd in the league's MVP vote). Look, there isn't a guy more dedicated to the game than Votto, and nobody will ever question that or his character. He is probably harder on himself than anyone of us is on him. But he also makes a guaranteed $25 mill. a year, and for the next 4 1/2 years (through 2023 when he will be 40). Unless he can turn this around, what do you do with a guy like that? I'm thinking you ride it our as long as you can, perhaps over the next 2 years, and then make him a part of the Reds coaching or front-office team. I mean, he's a legend here, and nobody wishes a single bad thing for the guy. And I think he's a major league manager in the making.
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Zafer Kaya on May 03, 2019, 01:49:37 PM
It was DeGrom and Syndergaard so you can't really fault the Reds too much.  I would look at those two 1-0 games as a positive sign as to how good their pitching has been.  And a split is really not too bad overall.  It's all the other games where the Reds can't hit for shit that's the problem.

The time to do something about Votto was three years ago.  As it is... like you said, no one works harder than he does, he's just getting old.  You can't trade him now, because the fans would revolt and besides you wouldn't get that much for him.  And even if he sucks for the rest of the contract (but I think he still has a bit left in the tank), he was still worth the big signing based on what he has already delivered.  It wasn't his fault the rest of the team that sucked.

Votto strikes me as the kind of guy who will want nothing to do with baseball after he retires though.  Just kind of an introverted, thinking dude.  I think he's the kind of guy who when he is playing baseball he gives the game 100% until he feels like he is done, and at that point he'll want to do something else.  Also, he's kind of an introverted guy.  I don't think the idea of lots of press conferences and yelling at players what to do appeals to him.
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: euro60 on May 03, 2019, 11:54:33 PM
so the Reds were up 8-0 against the Giants, and then lost the game 12-11 in extra innings, wow. I have no words other than they are in, comfortably, in last place in the NL Central... <sigh>
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Zafer Kaya on May 04, 2019, 12:07:26 AM
Yeah, that was a brutal loss.

Votto went 0-6 leading off, and Iglesias blew another one.  I suspect there will be a lot of kvetching over that.  And also why Bell pulled his starter after 5 innings and up 8 runs.  Or why Atephenson did not pitch.

But honestly, asking your bullpen to pitch a a game with a collective ERA under 9.00 is not a big ask.  And the pen has been good all year.  There was no reason to expect them to be bad, and certainly not ridiculously awful.

On any other night, they probably could have picked four position players to throw one inning each and still won.
Just one of those fluke-y things, but it still hurts.
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: daytime drinking on May 05, 2019, 10:25:58 PM
and another one!  we went to the game today.  first game in like five years or something.  went to a bats game a couple weeks ago.  we missed every dinger

luis looked good outside that fart in the sixth.  showed good composure not getting fazed after coughing up the lead.  t'ain't looking good
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: euro60 on May 05, 2019, 10:31:33 PM
Just amazing...

And like I said a while ago, the Reds are comfortably settling into last place of the NL Central <sigh>
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Zafer Kaya on May 06, 2019, 12:41:28 AM
The difference in talent between this years last place Reds and last year is immense, though.I honestly think the only difference between the Reds being 14-20 vs 17-17 is David Bell.  God, that guy sucks.

OTOH, is there really a huge difference between .500 and .450, or in the cellar by a game or two vs just out of the cellar by a game or two?

Baseball mediocrity is its own special hell, often more frustrating than just outright sucking.  The Reds on a good day when the hitting and pitching are on, are completely capable of destroying the Dodgers by 6 runs.  On a bad day, they can lose to the Marlins by 3 or 4 runs.  And on a typical day, they are just good enough to keep it competitive but not good enough to consistently win. 

Itís hard to come up with a way to even improve the team, because while no one is good, no one is really bad, either.

I was thinking about picking up Vanmeter for my fantasy team today, but then I was like... where does he play?  Winker, Puig, Senzel in OF.  Suarez at 3B.  Gennett returning to play 2B soon, but until then you have to find a way to play Dietrich and then even beyond that you probably need to see if Peraza can turn things around.  So one of the most putrid offenses in baseball to date legitimately does not have a place to play the hottest AAA hitter in the country.
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: daytime drinking on May 06, 2019, 09:29:03 AM
they say it's a good problem to have
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Zafer Kaya on May 06, 2019, 12:30:12 PM
If you have a lousy team and you are trying to find space for a lousy prospect, then it's a lousy problem to have.

If you have a great team and you are trying to find space for a great prospect, it's a great problem to have. 

If you have a mediocre offense and are trying to find space for a mediocre prospect.  That's a mediocre problem to have.

The Reds have a mediocre problem.
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: euro60 on May 15, 2019, 10:57:28 PM
Reds won in dramatic fashion against the Cubs tonight, 6-5. Sadly they are still way, way back in last place. In fact, the only team below .500 in the NL Central. Yea, that is how tough that division is.
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: daytime drinking on May 17, 2019, 02:58:31 PM
that staff has carried them almost single handedly to twenty wins.  this fuckin offense better wake up.  watch out central.  of course what always happens is that we start losing 12-8 slugfests.  i don't think optimism is allowed in cincinnati sports 
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: euro60 on May 29, 2019, 10:57:24 PM
Reds are playing better, BUT why does it seems that they win by bit margins, and then to lose by a small margin

All that aside, last night's game (with Dietrich's 3 home runs, and Sims, just called up from Louisvile, and DEALING) was fun to watch.

Reality check: Reds are still in last place in the NL Central <sigh>
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: euro60 on June 11, 2019, 11:10:37 PM
Every time you think the Reds are going to crawl back to .500 and/or out of last place, they don't yet again. Witness tonight's loss at Cleveland, a game they by all means should've won. <sigh> I'm trying to be hopeful, and the Reds' stats are not that bad, but they just don't translate into wins...
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Zafer Kaya on June 12, 2019, 12:50:50 AM
Itís just an artificial line in your head.  Whatís the difference between .500 and .495?  Just a bit of luck.

The Reds should probably be .500, or even above.  Third place in the NL Central gets you nowhere though.  I actually prefer knowing the team has the talent to be .5000 but will get a better draft pick than they deserve and have the chance to improve next year.

Winker situation is getting a little worrisome though.  I thought he had turned it around a couple weeks ago, but now he is stinking it up again.  The power still seems to come only in short (albeit impressive) busts, and his OBP skills have gone from off-the-charts to merely pretty good.  Thatís not going to cut it for an OF.  Also, he remains helpless against lefties. 
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: euro60 on June 16, 2019, 11:32:36 PM
The Reds are as of today 7 games under .500 and tied for last place, although the "least worst" team that is in last place. Does that give me any comfort? None.

Case in point: I'm slated to host our firm's corporate suite at GABP with clients on Sunday, June 30 (yes, only 2 weeks from today) As of now, I have NOT A SINGLE CLIENT that I have invited (and I have invited many) to attend the game. I mean, I'm getting desperate now. ZK, you wanna come up from Richmond and attend? I'm sure I could call you a "potential client" or some such, Yea, it's that bad. And mind you, it's the only suite game I am hosting this year (cutting down from 2 last year, and 3 or 4 in the years before).

I see ZERO interest among our clients to attend a Reds game, in a corporate suite no less, with free food and unlimited drinks. What does that tell you? <sigh>
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: daytime drinking on June 17, 2019, 11:05:07 PM
i'll do it euro as long as you drive me home.  don't worry about me, i can get there alright

a two game win streak! 
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: daytime drinking on June 18, 2019, 11:01:20 PM
three in a row! 

granted the 'stros are without multiple all stars and coulda won both.  it was a man's win.  garrett stumbles and iggy and lorenzen lights em out.  it's gotta be one of the best pens in the league.  a marvelous collection of failed starters.  and the bench has also got to be amongst the best as well.  so essentially the only reason the reds are just beyond middling is because they're forced to resort to those folk more often than, i imagine, they'd like

i think the offense will come around, just frustrating.  and it's not like i'm the only one who thought this team could be a dark horse.  i can't be
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Zafer Kaya on June 18, 2019, 11:53:09 PM
They do have an excellent pen.

Although not to burst your bubble but a last place team with an awesome bullpen is pretty good indication that your GM sucks. Even more true when the strength of the pen is itís depth rather than quality.  Itís the least important, most fungible part of a team and completely useless when your team is bad.  So your FO prioritized poorly and/or you wasted a lot of draft picks or potential trades on starting prospects who failed.

They could still deal from a position of strength and trade Iglesias.  They wonít, but they should.
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: euro60 on June 19, 2019, 01:14:59 AM

They could still deal from a position of strength and trade Iglesias.  They wonít, but they should.
which Iglesias do you mean? If it is the bullpen guy, they won't get much for him... So I don't think they should. I think he'll come around
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Zafer Kaya on June 19, 2019, 12:06:39 PM
Iglesias is not pitching badly.  He has a 2.90 ERA.  His skills indicate that he walks too many people and gives up too many flyballs and his ERA should be way higher.  But, he has outperformed his skills his entire career.  I think he's just one of those legitimate outliers who for whatever reason can't be fit into existing models.  He's not really pitching any worse than he has over his career.

The reason you trade him is because some teams will overpay for closers. And he's under contract until 2021.  So he has some decent value.  But not to the Reds, because Stephenson and Lorenzen or maybe Amir Garrett aren't that much worse and might even be better.  And there is no point in having a decent closer when half of your games, you're already losing by the 7th inning, and anyway all he does is give you 2 extra wins a year and what you need is 10 extra wins.

The Reds should have rebuilt 4 or 5 years ago.  They totally fucked it up.  If they hadn't they could be the Milwaukee Brewers who are in WS contention and still have a better farm than the Reds.

Because you screwed up your rebuild, you need to start over and rebuild again.  The Reds still think they're a young team on the rise somehow but most of their "young prospects" aren't even young anymore.  And they're not good.  Most of their decent players are not going to be around when they contend.

They are two or three horrible years away from being an awesome team if they trade everyone.  Or an infinity number of years away from being an awesome team if they keep doing what they are doing.





Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: daytime drinking on June 19, 2019, 05:05:53 PM
make that four

Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: daytime drinking on June 19, 2019, 09:47:54 PM
Iglesias is not pitching badly.  He has a 2.90 ERA.  His skills indicate that he walks too many people and gives up too many flyballs and his ERA should be way higher.  But, he has outperformed his skills his entire career.  I think he's just one of those legitimate outliers who for whatever reason can't be fit into existing models.  He's not really pitching any worse than he has over his career.

The reason you trade him is because some teams will overpay for closers. And he's under contract until 2021.  So he has some decent value.  But not to the Reds, because Stephenson and Lorenzen or maybe Amir Garrett aren't that much worse and might even be better.  And there is no point in having a decent closer when half of your games, you're already losing by the 7th inning, and anyway all he does is give you 2 extra wins a year and what you need is 10 extra wins.

The Reds should have rebuilt 4 or 5 years ago.  They totally fucked it up.  If they hadn't they could be the Milwaukee Brewers who are in WS contention and still have a better farm than the Reds.

Because you screwed up your rebuild, you need to start over and rebuild again.  The Reds still think they're a young team on the rise somehow but most of their "young prospects" aren't even young anymore.  And they're not good.  Most of their decent players are not going to be around when they contend.

They are two or three horrible years away from being an awesome team if they trade everyone.  Or an infinity number of years away from being an awesome team if they keep doing what they are doing.

i thought this offense was going to hit the ground running.  if the deals are right, i wouldn't mind trading everyone.  too risky to try and contend now, this close to the all star break.  i think part of the problem is that this rebuild has been in the hands who knows how many gms and that castellini sux 

you sure aren't kidding about how old our youth is and how much of it was wasted.  but it still is a formidable lineup that with just a few moving pieces come all star, they could be poised to contend next year.  imo.  just stinks there's not much of a market for the expendables; gennett, dirty derek, maybe puig.  it's tempting to want to keep the core of winker, senzel, suarez. and i just don't know how to quit joey votto.  i'd like to see half the pen unloaded.  bob steve's the closer of the future.  i'd rather have iglesias than peraza i think

do all that (with a good return) coupled with debuts of taylor trammell, jonathan india, and that pitcher they drafted from tcu a month ago (compared to sale), cubs pitching sux, cardinals are mortal and the brewers unsustainable (even though you tout their farm).... i smell playoffs 

the reds are set up for at least the next five years.  if hunter greene becomes worthy of the number two pick and that sale esque feller, two aces?  you ride that to the pennett
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Zafer Kaya on June 20, 2019, 02:04:34 PM
I don't know what's up with Winker.  He constantly looks like he's just about to break out, and then he goes 0-15.

I think you put your finger on the major problem which is that teams are wiser now and will not trade very much for a rental.  The core they have isn't terrible, but it's not like the Cubs or Astros in 2016 or the Brewers last year/this year.

I think the mistake they made last time was thinking they could turn things around in a year.  They kept asking for MLB-ready players like Peraza instead of younger players with much higher ceilings (and risk).  I think they need to trade for the best talent available regardless of how far away they are.  They'll be terrible next year.  They'll be okay the year afters as the first wave of present prospects arrives and goes through their rookie struggles.  And then the year after that, they could be awesome as most of their team will have had 1-2 years under their belt, and they can fill up the remaining gaps with hotshot prospects they acquire in deals this year.

But they're not going to do any of this.  They're going to sit on their asses.
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: euro60 on June 22, 2019, 12:25:19 AM
Reds win again! holy cow, this is 6 in a row.... Can something be brewing here?
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: euro60 on June 24, 2019, 12:49:50 AM
6 feet forward, 2 feet back <sigh>
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: foolsgold on June 24, 2019, 08:10:29 AM
They lost two in pretty close fashion against a very dangerous offensive team.  DeScalfini had a one bad inning that the Brewers exploited.  Other than that, they played them close.  This season's Reds are equally capable of a 10 game win streak as they are a 10 game losing streak.  Mostly, they're a low average team and we knew that going in to the beginning of the season.  I'm curious what you expected.

Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: euro60 on June 24, 2019, 10:48:10 PM
They lost two in pretty close fashion against a very dangerous offensive team.  DeScalfini had a one bad inning that the Brewers exploited.  Other than that, they played them close.  This season's Reds are equally capable of a 10 game win streak as they are a 10 game losing streak.  Mostly, they're a low average team and we knew that going in to the beginning of the season.  I'm curious what you expected.
agreed with everything.
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Butter on June 25, 2019, 07:49:38 AM
Reds are 10 over in the Pythagorean W/L record, which really doesn't mean anything unless you are looking for reasons to blame the managing.  They are the "unluckiest" team in baseball, with a 7 game difference between their Pythagorean W/L and their actual record.

Iglesias has 6 losses, and Bell continues to insist he is the "closer" despite the fact that Amir Garrett has been vastly more effective in pressure situations this year.

Tucker Barnhart is showing unsurprising regression, and Peraza continues to be run out there every day despite a barely over .600 OPS.

If Scooter Gennett can return to form, and they resist the urge to keep developing Peraza, and Bell somehow becomes a less shitty manager, this could be a WC team.  But that's probably the absolute ceiling for this season.  They basically need to luck into some starting pitching improvement and avoid further injuries to the current starting lineup... getting Puig back over an .800 OPS would help also, but he has definitely improved of late.
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: euro60 on June 26, 2019, 01:09:25 AM
now 6 steps forward, 3 steps backwards <sigh>
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: euro60 on June 26, 2019, 11:14:21 PM
6 steps forward, 4 steps back

And back in last place in the NL Central <sigh>
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Zafer Kaya on June 27, 2019, 11:36:28 AM
That's the problem with being a mediocre team.  It's not how far away you are from the leaders or the wild card slot.  It's the number of teams who are ahead of you or in the same position.  There are really only two teams in the NL that can truly be said to be out of it. 

If you look at it like "Hey the Reds are only 6 games out of the NL Central title, and only 5 games out of the wildcard" then it feels like they have a shot.  It's quite possible to make up 5-6 games in half a season on any given team.

But if you look at the NL as a playoff race with 13 remaining teams and the Reds are in 12th, and a simultaneous 6 team race where the Reds are in 6th, then it's a lot more grim.

The NL Central has mostly stunk it up the last few games, so the Reds are really no further behind than they were three games ago.  Except Pittsburgh managed to win, so that's one more team the Reds have to beat now even though they're still the same distance behind. 
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: euro60 on June 27, 2019, 10:56:09 PM

But if you look at the NL as a playoff race with 13 remaining teams and the Reds are in 12th, and a simultaneous 6 team race where the Reds are in 6th, then it's a lot more grim.

I totally get that, and I'm not in the furthest of my mind thinking of the Reds as a potential WC contender. My mindset is: get out of last place, not just for a few days, and let's go from there. Until that happens (which it hasn't now, half way into the season), I really can't be bothered by anyone saying, "the Reds are so much better this year!" It may not be fair, but at this point I am of the "show me" attitude.
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Zafer Kaya on July 17, 2019, 01:27:56 PM
The best thing that can happen for the Reds is a Cubs sweep, to put any notion of them being buyers at the deadline to rest.



Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Butter on July 17, 2019, 01:31:12 PM
So you want the Reds to retroactively forfeit Game 1?  Bold move.
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Zafer Kaya on July 17, 2019, 01:36:08 PM
Yes, if only they could.
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: euro60 on July 17, 2019, 11:46:26 PM
the Reds are done. 7.5 games out of 1st place, 6 games under .500 and 8 teams ahead of them of the WC spot.

They had a real chance in the Chicago Cubs series to show they are a contender, and blew it.
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: euro60 on July 20, 2019, 12:25:11 AM
Not to beat a dead horse, but the Reds blew a 7-0 lead tonight, and lost. Stick an official fork in this year.

As a TV guy pointed out, the Reds' record right now after 95 games is EXACTLY the same as it it was last year. Wow. So much for "improvement".
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Zafer Kaya on July 30, 2019, 11:20:26 PM
I like Trevor Bauer in the abstract, but I think I would have a difficult time actually pulling for him on my team.  He seems to be getting worse, too.  Like he has crossed the line from haha heís so crazy to whoa heís so crazy shitís not funny anymore. 

I suppose the same could be said of Puig, though.  Still, getting fined/suspended right AFTER youíve been traded tops getting find/suspended right BEFORE you are traded.

And Bauer will feel right at home wearing a red cap. 

I think I like this deal for the Indians.  I donít think I like this deal for the Padres.  Donít know wha to make of the Reds end.  They needed hitting for this year or they needed prospects.  They gave up hitting and prospects and got more pitching.  But the price wasnít too bad.  Just depends on what they do next.  I think if they now trade Roark and/or Wood for something decent, this could work out well for them. As it stands now, just kind of confused. 
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Zafer Kaya on July 31, 2019, 12:14:54 AM
Oh yeah.  FREE JOSH VANMETER!! 
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Butter on July 31, 2019, 07:48:12 AM
Josh Vanmeter.  I can't believe he is taking at bats away from... anybody, really.

I am ambivalent about this trade, unless Bauer improves.  It seems like he might've been a one season wonder and is settling back to his normal 4.00 ERA self.  Even though his K rate has stayed pretty high, you got the headcase thing to go along with it.  And they traded what before the season was the top prospect in the system for him along with the current 4-hole hitter. 

The only thing I can think of is they saw Trammell at AA this year hitting .230 or whatever and decided maybe the time was now to sell on him.  The Padres have collected some good prospects of ours in the past, like Grandal, who then went on to produce.
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Zafer Kaya on July 31, 2019, 09:35:40 AM
Yeah, I think it's way to early to call Trammell a bust, but it at least makes it understandable if the Reds feel like maybe he isn't quite the prospect he's cracked up to be. 

If that's the case, then this trade is undoable.  Because they can simply flip Bauer at the end of the season.  Theoretically, they should get somewhat less for one year of Bauer than they will for a year and a half of Bauer.  But if Trammell is really only a "one year of Bauer" player then the Reds will have broken even. 

They'll simply have given up half a year of Puig for half a year of Bauer.  Neither player is exactly the most reliable performer or stable influence in the clubhouse, but both of them can play at MVP levels when they're on.  So... fair trade except that the Reds don't need pitching.  But again, they solve that if they trade Wood or Roark.  It gives them flexibility to trade an SP and maybe package Dietrich or Gennett with them and get whatever future prospect or present hitter they really need.

Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Dan on July 31, 2019, 10:31:42 AM
Having had Trevor Bauer on my team for years, I want to get this out there:

I LOVED Trevor Bauer. LOVED HIM. And very sad to see him go. I liked that he was weird and different and experimented and was tinkering and a thinker (baseball ABHORS a thinker, and that's just absurd). I liked that he's a competitor - he was mad about being taken out and threw the ball over the fence. Obviously he shouldn't have done that, but he's a competitor and loves being out there. These are good things and as long as the Reds are able to be an open-minded organization to handle his quirks they are getting a good guy. Clearly there was something off this year and he wasn't as good as he has been the past few years, which was a bummer, but I think he'll return to form. And I think he'll pitch well for them. I'll miss him.

Having said all that, the Tribe has plenty of pitching. We need outfield production most sorely, and any bats really. So I see the trade as a logical move. And the Tribe is usually good with the prospects they get back in these kinds of deals, so there's a decent chance one of the five turns into a regular everyday player for us, if not better.
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: notoriouspbake on July 31, 2019, 02:52:06 PM
baseball. does detroit have a team?
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: foolsgold on July 31, 2019, 03:24:51 PM
Sports.  Does Detroit have any teams?
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Zafer Kaya on July 31, 2019, 10:10:54 PM
And they end up moving Gennett for a lowly PTBNL.  So stupid not to trade him last year.

OTOH, Josh VanMeter has apparently been freed. 
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: euro60 on July 31, 2019, 10:59:36 PM
somewhat surprised (but not really) that the Reds traded Scooter to the Giants. Local guy who has been a massive surprise (and fan favorite) since picked up from the Brewers on a dime 2 1/2 years ago. But he is due mega bucks (being a free agent at the end of this year), and has battled injuries, and really hasn't come around this year. Good move for the Reds IMHO (even though I hate seeing him leave).
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: daytime drinking on July 31, 2019, 11:08:44 PM
And they end up moving Gennett for a lowly PTBNL.  So stupid not to trade him last year.

OTOH, Josh VanMeter has apparently been freed.

fo real.  i never understood why folks get sentimental for players.  i did that when i was ten

essentially the reds gave up chase jeter and taylor trammell to get corey kluber and alex wood for at least a year total.  well i think they needed good to great starting pitching.  i know i shouldn't, but i still believe in this team. 

should be a solid staff next season

castillo
bauer
gray
disco
i guess mahle

i wouldn't mind seeing them make a run at getting a contract outta wood if he earns it.  mahle's alright, but we could be doing better
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: daytime drinking on August 03, 2019, 12:11:34 AM
what you are seeing is vintage joey votto.  off on another historic second half terror
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Zafer Kaya on August 03, 2019, 12:45:46 AM
.250 and 3 HR since July?
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: daytime drinking on August 03, 2019, 10:04:48 AM
.259
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Zafer Kaya on August 06, 2019, 02:29:15 AM
I guess VanMeter has not been freed after all.

Only the Reds could trade Gennett and Puig, and yet still end up with a worse playing time jam than they started with.

I guess the plan is to play Peraza, Aquino, VanMeter, Ervin, Winker, OíGrady?,  One game a week.  That will really help their development. 

Seriously, David Bell is a complete clown. 
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: daytime drinking on August 06, 2019, 09:14:22 AM
david bell be suspendered
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Zafer Kaya on August 06, 2019, 11:38:35 AM
Yeah, but I imagine he us still the one determining the lineups.  Not to mention the idiocy that got him suspended in the first place.
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: daytime drinking on August 06, 2019, 02:05:13 PM
you mean the pirates?  and he most likely doesn't control who gets traded.  i like how firey he is.  imagine the players like him.  whether that's a good thing or not....  they're at least playing better ball
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Zafer Kaya on August 06, 2019, 03:41:22 PM
I'm not talking about the trades.  The trades were actually okay.  I'm talking about the day-to-day lineups.  I also don't think it's any great shakes to manage this Reds team to a .477 record.  If anything, they're underachieving. 

The Pirates were pretty lame throwing at batters. They deserved the suspensions they got for the most part.  But when you try to charge the opposing manager AFTER you've already been tossed out of the game, and the fight started because your reliever basically told you he was going to fight the other team and you let him... that's just stupid.
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: daytime drinking on August 06, 2019, 10:36:50 PM
i really don't even know how important a manager is.  it was fun seeing bell coming back from the dugout.  i didn't know garrett told bell he was going to charge their dugout.  what inning was that in?  well, i've always liked colorful managers.  earl weaver was a hoot

but i dunno.  the outfield might be a mess for a minute now.  apparently they've got some bank.  maybe get puig back.  i'd rather ervin get the spot, but who the hell knows if he deserves it.  he's been up long enough to where a decision needs to made
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: euro60 on August 06, 2019, 11:49:56 PM
Maybe get Puig back?? What are you talking about? Zero, less than zero, chance of that.

Apparently the Reds picked up a pitcher who was waived by the Brewers, with a terrible record (and ERA) and a $3 mill price tag for the last 2 months. WHY?
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Zafer Kaya on August 07, 2019, 12:00:58 AM
I mean, I find Bell pretty entertaining.   I wouldnít if I were a Reds fan, though.

Gausman pick up wasnít that bad, euro60.  $3m is chump change in todayís game.  Gausman was a highly touted prospect.  Never developed because he was in the shittiest baseball organization for pitchers.  Then he got traded to the Braves where he was in maybe the best organization, and he pitched well end of last year.  This year, he stinks but lots of failed starters become good relievers.  So thatís what the Reds will try and do.

Itís not really harmful, just kind of pointless.  Because why do the Reds need a good reliever when their pen is solid?  Also, who cares at this point when it seems unlikely the Reds will make the post-season?

I doubt they will go to arbitration and keep Gausman next year, so really they are just training him to be a reliever for some other team.  Maybe they think they can DFA him and get him back?

I dunno. Kinda silly, but not really a big deal.
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: daytime drinking on August 07, 2019, 09:50:58 AM
i think they could totally get puig back.  maybe like a two year deal or something.  as for gausmann, peralta needs to be sent down
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Zafer Kaya on August 07, 2019, 05:14:20 PM
Yeah, depends on how he finishes out the season but I think you could probably get Puig back on a 2-3 year deal if you wanted him.  But why in the world would you want do something as stupid as that?


Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: euro60 on August 07, 2019, 11:50:54 PM
But why in the world would you want do something as stupid as that?
You wouldn't and the Reds certainly won't. It was nice having here for 4 months. And that's it.
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: daytime drinking on August 07, 2019, 11:53:11 PM
i just have a feeling no one's going to win the other outfield spot and they'll burn some loot on a free agent.  not sure what the market's going to be, but this front office doesn't appear to wait out contention.  i bet they get alex wood as well
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Zafer Kaya on August 08, 2019, 11:36:21 AM
Well, that's fair.  I guess my question was rhetorical.  The practical answer of "Because the Reds are idiots" has some truth to it.

If no one is going to win that OF spot then they need to start over.  I mean, they had Puig in the outfield already and the result is a mediocre club. 

But one reason I think the reason why no one will with that OF spot is because no one will get a chance to win it. That's kind of been the problem all along.

I don't really think Peraza is that good, but he definitely had a decent season last year.  He started off bad, and Dietrich and Iglesias were the only two hitting, so he stopped getting playing time.  And I think he has lost his groove and confidence now.  It's possible he's just not that good, but the Reds won't know because they didn't give themselves time to find out.  Instead they played two players who also aren't that good, and won't be around next year.

Then they called up VanMeter and kept him on the bench for weeks.  He starts hitting and everything looks good so they trade Gennett and Puig to create a space for him.  And Ervin who has been stuck in kind of the same predicament.  But no, then they call up Aquino.  So after a long overdue logjam clearance, they immediately create another logjam.

And they're still playing Iglesias at SS, and they were playing Dietrich at 2B before he got hurt.

Shit or get off the pot.  Take the most promising prospects and give them a real run until the end of the season.  If they suck, then send them all back down to AAA and start the season with the guys who didn't get a chance this year.

Like, I'm still amazed that Senzel was moved out of the infield and especially SS where he'd be hugely valuable if he can play it, into CF so the Reds could play the likes of Iglesias, Peraza, and Dietrich and finish .500.  And it's not like they were stuck with bad contracts.  They went out and signed two of those players.  To me, that's just brutally bad management.

I get that VanMeter and Aquino were never that highly rated as prospects.  And that Ervin has disappointed.  So maybe the odds for any of them individually aren't good.  But there's three of them.  Between VanMeter, Aquino, and Ervin at least one of them is probably a legit starter. 

The Reds have three jobs the rest of the season:  Figure out which one of the players they keep juggling in OF and 2B is for real.  Get Winker going.  Fire David Bell.  That is all that matters. 
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: euro60 on August 08, 2019, 10:57:34 PM
Huh, fire David Bell? WHY?
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: daytime drinking on August 08, 2019, 11:45:44 PM
iglesias ruined whatever plans they had for short.  he's still young enough to warrant a contract.  i hear you about the logjam at right.  it's sorta like; these guys belong on the team so let's do that.  ervin has a decent enough sample to warrant the full time gig.  winker and senzel don't play everyday because of it as well.   i guess they're just playing for next year, despite playing decent ball
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Zafer Kaya on August 08, 2019, 11:53:09 PM
Man, I feel a little bad for David Hernandez.

I think there must be few suckier things than the pitcher who starts off in a competitive game and then gets bombed so quickly and mercilessly that like his job duties wraps around from trying to win game to mop up duty.  You get to keep pitching because you were shitty.

And then you try to get it together and at least eat some innings, but you are so bad you canít even do that and of course it gets harder and harder as your arm wears down from throwing 35 pitches in an inning. And then you start thinking, ďOkay, now we have moved beyond Ďsave the armsí mode into ďLetís blow this guyís arm out so that at least he canít itch the rest of this series and hopefully he gets hurt so we can DL him and bring up another player.Ē

And in the end, you still fail and the team is forced to use a position player who thinks it is all a fun goof.... and then that guy works a crisp 1 and a third inning making it look easy. 

It happens multiple times a year, but it is always cringe-y watching.

I remember LaRussa did this like twice in one season to Jason Marquis.  He *hated* Jason Marquis.  I donít know why.  Marquis was not very good, but he was an okay 5th starter.  But LaRussa hated him.  He would always leave him in too long even when he wasnít awful.  Like Marquis would be down 3-1 after 6 innings which is typical 5th starter stuff and LaRussa would make him pitch the seventh and throw 110 pitches.  He was also always making Marquis do other stuff, too. Like ph just to sac bunt on off nights.  Or pinch run for no reason, 

Anyway, The second time it happened, I was certain Marquis was going to punch La Russa when he finally took the ball.  I think LaRussa knew it, too, so he sent out the pitching coach.  Pitching coach takes the ball tries to give him the pat on the ass and Marquis kind of stiff arms him and walks off, staring daggers at LaRussa the entire time.  That was it for him in St. Louis.  Next year they traded him to the Cubs.  He was pretty good for us.  Did a good job eating some innings.
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: Zafer Kaya on August 08, 2019, 11:59:05 PM
iglesias ruined whatever plans they had for short.  he's still young enough to warrant a contract.  i hear you about the logjam at right.  it's sorta like; these guys belong on the team so let's do that.  ervin has a decent enough sample to warrant the full time gig.  winker and senzel don't play everyday because of it as well.   i guess they're just playing for next year, despite playing decent ball

Itís like some weird platoon thing of VanMeter, Senzel, Ervin against righties and Winker, ?, Aquino vs lefties.  Aquino just hit the hardest ball in MLB all season, and threw the fastest ball from outfield in the same game.  Heís a beast. 

Iglesias is an okay player.  Kind of a borderline starter/really good utility guy.  He will not have a problem getting a contract, just not sure why the Reds would do it.

Brutal game for Peraza today.  It may be time to just give up on him.  He needs a change of scenery.
Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: daytime drinking on August 17, 2019, 11:07:20 PM
every time aquino doesn't hit a home run i start to wonder if he isn't just a flash in the pan

it was like the reds hitting coach or something (i don't think the minors) who suggested he open up his stance.  he can apparently see the ball that much better.  i could never keep my eyes on the baseball when i was batting.  my head thought it was part of the follow thru.  no one ever corrected me.  i only self diagnosed myself something like five years ago when it occurred to me why i sucked at the plate.  maybe they did try to give me advice only i never listened.  keep your eyes on the ball they might have said.  of course.  yeah yeah.  how else you gonna hit it?  or maybe they thought i was too sensitive and any criticism would cause me to cry

jesus christ.  could you only imagine if i opened up my stance?

Title: Re: Cincinnati Reds 2019
Post by: euro60 on August 18, 2019, 12:36:48 AM

jesus christ.  could you only imagine if i opened up my stance?
I think I'd be afraid, very afraid  :o