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Title: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: c-lando on January 15, 2019, 01:57:09 PM
Go ahead and get it off your chest. But, don't share something that will make us think you're a dick. You can keep that stuff to yourself.

I'll start us off...

Cashews are gross.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Dan on January 15, 2019, 02:00:28 PM
The fact that we play the national anthem prior to sporting events makes no sense and should be removed from the procedures.

It makes sense if it's one country vs another country playing, but tell me WHY precisely the national anthem needs to be played before each. and. every. athletic. contest. over. and. over?
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: foolsgold on January 15, 2019, 03:00:30 PM
People who don't like cashews lead a colorless life.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: c-lando on January 15, 2019, 03:24:47 PM
People who don't like cashews lead a colorless life.

It's your world and I'm just a squirrel
Tryin' to get a nut to move your butt to the dance floor
So your butts up, hands, in the air, come on say, Yeah.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 15, 2019, 05:05:42 PM
Cashews are the bacon of nuts.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: euro60 on January 15, 2019, 05:07:40 PM
The fact that we play the national anthem prior to sporting events makes no sense and should be removed from the procedures.

It makes sense if it's one country vs another country playing, but tell me WHY precisely the national anthem needs to be played before each. and. every. athletic. contest. over. and. over?
Agreed 1,000%.

If this was the practice in, say, China or Russia (I don't know that it is or isn't), my immediate reaction would be "slimy government propaganda trying to control the masses". So why do we do it here then?
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: trixi on January 15, 2019, 09:50:51 PM
The fact that we play the national anthem prior to sporting events makes no sense and should be removed from the procedures.

It makes sense if it's one country vs another country playing, but tell me WHY precisely the national anthem needs to be played before each. and. every. athletic. contest. over. and. over?
Along the same lines, I also don't understand the playing of America the Beautiful in replace of (or addition to) Take me Out to the Ball Game in the 7th inning stretch.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Dan on January 16, 2019, 09:58:09 AM
Not defending it, but that was instituted after 9/11 when there was this huge swell of national pride. Everyone was really with it at the time (seemingly). Problem is that if you try to take it away it looks like you hate your country.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Kwyjibo on January 16, 2019, 10:30:13 AM

Along the same lines, I also don't understand the playing of America the Beautiful in replace of (or addition to) Take me Out to the Ball Game in the 7th inning stretch.


Is this a thing?  Gross.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: c-lando on January 16, 2019, 11:01:58 AM
Cashews are the bacon of nuts.
Overrated?
Delicious on everything?
To be avoided for religious reasons?
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: foolsgold on January 16, 2019, 11:10:27 AM
I don't mind the anthem and find it kinda quaint in a wholesome way.  Granted, most of my enjoyment comes from listening to the singers warble their way through it along with the anticipation of shouting "play ball" at the end.  Supplanting "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" for the 7th inning stretch, however, is borderline treason.

Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: daytime drinking on January 16, 2019, 11:28:35 AM
Go ahead and get it off your chest. But, don't share something that will make us think you're a dick. You can keep that stuff to yourself.

I'll start us off...

Cashews are gross.

so you have a nut allergy or something?
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Butter on January 16, 2019, 11:47:02 AM
I've been having a sleeve of cashews most days with my packed lunch.  They are one of my favorite nuts. 

Lando, your distaste is concerning.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Paco on January 16, 2019, 11:49:07 AM
Not defending it, but that was instituted after 9/11 when there was this huge swell of national pride. Everyone was really with it at the time (seemingly). Problem is that if you try to take it away it looks like you hate your country.

Actually, it started in WWII.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Paco on January 16, 2019, 11:51:17 AM
Not defending it, but that was instituted after 9/11 when there was this huge swell of national pride. Everyone was really with it at the time (seemingly). Problem is that if you try to take it away it looks like you hate your country.

Actually, it started in WWII.

Correction, WWI

https://www.history.com/news/why-the-star-spangled-banner-is-played-at-sporting-events
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Butter on January 16, 2019, 11:53:02 AM
Unpopular opinion, at least around here maybe?:

I really don't like The National.  Never have.  Tried.  I probably have a song or two of theirs in my Spotify.  But their whole thing just sucks, AFAIC.  They should stop making music, at least together.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Dan on January 16, 2019, 12:17:25 PM
oooh, thems throwing fireballs!

I love it Butter.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 16, 2019, 12:22:16 PM
The National are a shit Crash Test Dummies cover band.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 16, 2019, 12:42:21 PM
Don't get me wrong, though.  They're still better than Decemberists or Arcade Fire.

Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Butter on January 16, 2019, 01:06:14 PM
Don't get me wrong, though.  They're still better than Decemberists or Arcade Fire.

Decemberists is occasionally tolerable.  Arcade Fire is great, you're just being curmudgeonly, or turned off by their pretension.

I checked, one National song, "The System Only Dreams in Total Darkness".  I got tired of that one right quick.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Butter on January 16, 2019, 01:06:52 PM
Don't get me wrong, though.  They're still better than Decemberists or Arcade Fire.

Decemberists is occasionally tolerable.  Arcade Fire is great, you're just being curmudgeonly, or turned off by their pretension.


If Lando buys us some podcasting equipment, this should be our first episode.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: c-lando on January 16, 2019, 01:11:47 PM
Don't get me wrong, though.  They're still better than Decemberists or Arcade Fire.

Decemberists is occasionally tolerable.  Arcade Fire is great, you're just being curmudgeonly, or turned off by their pretension.


If Lando buys us some podcasting equipment, this should be our first episode.

Speak into my microphone...
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Drjohnrock on January 16, 2019, 01:29:40 PM
Marty Brennaman has announced he will retire as the radio voice of the Cincinnati Reds after the 2019 reason.  I wish it could be immediately.  I've really grown tired of him.  I've always liked how he wasn't a homer, how he would criticize a Reds player if he deserved it, and would praise a good play by an opposing player.  But in addition to his  becoming too arrogant, he's pathetically insecure.  The Ask Marty portion of each Reds game, where he answers a question submitted by a listener, constantly refers to him as "the Hall of Famer."  Yes, we know you're in the Broadcasting Hall Of Fame or whatever it is--can't be bothered to look it up.  Why have it said over and over, little man?  Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Butter on January 16, 2019, 01:45:39 PM
Marty Brennaman has announced he will retire as the radio voice of the Cincinnati Reds after the 2019 reason.  I wish it could be immediately.  I've really grown tired of him.  I've always liked how he wasn't a homer, how he would criticize a Reds player if he deserved it, and would praise a good play by an opposing player.  But in addition to his  becoming too arrogant, he's pathetically insecure.  The Ask Marty portion of each Reds game, where he answers a question submitted by a listener, constantly refers to him as "the Hall of Famer."  Yes, we know you're in the Broadcasting Hall Of Fame or whatever it is--can't be bothered to look it up.  Why have it said over and over, little man?  Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

I don't listen to radio much anymore, but the times I do his schtick gets real old real quick.  "And he walked him!" in a really exasperated voice seems to be par.

But I will ALWAYS have fond memories of listening to Marty and Joe in my youth... even when my boys were young, they used to sleep in the same room.  Some nights, I would have to go and lay in between them just to get them to calm enough to lay off each other.  I would turn on Marty and Joe (I think it was Joe's last season) and listen in their room... in addition to helping put them to sleep because it was super boring to them, I loved listening to them together.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Drjohnrock on January 16, 2019, 02:34:07 PM
Marty Brennaman has announced he will retire as the radio voice of the Cincinnati Reds after the 2019 reason.  I wish it could be immediately.  I've really grown tired of him.  I've always liked how he wasn't a homer, how he would criticize a Reds player if he deserved it, and would praise a good play by an opposing player.  But in addition to his  becoming too arrogant, he's pathetically insecure.  The Ask Marty portion of each Reds game, where he answers a question submitted by a listener, constantly refers to him as "the Hall of Famer."  Yes, we know you're in the Broadcasting Hall Of Fame or whatever it is--can't be bothered to look it up.  Why have it said over and over, little man?  Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

I don't listen to radio much anymore, but the times I do his schtick gets real old real quick.  "And he walked him!" in a really exasperated voice seems to be par.

But I will ALWAYS have fond memories of listening to Marty and Joe in my youth... even when my boys were young, they used to sleep in the same room.  Some nights, I would have to go and lay in between them just to get them to calm enough to lay off each other.  I would turn on Marty and Joe (I think it was Joe's last season) and listen in their room... in addition to helping put them to sleep because it was super boring to them, I loved listening to them together.


Nice story. Yeah, I think Joe prevented Marty from being too much of a jerk.  I really miss the old left hander.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 16, 2019, 02:49:42 PM
Don't get me wrong, though.  They're still better than Decemberists or Arcade Fire.

Decemberists is occasionally tolerable.  Arcade Fire is great, you're just being curmudgeonly, or turned off by their pretension.

I checked, one National song, "The System Only Dreams in Total Darkness".  I got tired of that one right quick.

I wouldn't say I was ever a huge Arcade Fire fan, but I liked their first few albums.  Reflektor sucked, but you could kind of write that one off as an "experimental album."  The new one though, really, REALLY sucks.

I think we discussed this before.  Arcade Fire to me is a bit formulaic and yes, pretentious.  Which generally meant that an Arcade Fire album had at least 1 song that sort of annoyed me and 1 song that I thought was brilliant.  The exact ratio differs, but it's usually close to 1:1 and the difference is really whether the rest of the songs are mediocre or kind of good.

I'd say this last Arcade Fire album has 2 songs that are beyond just bad, they're unlistenable to me.  I literally have to change the station or turn off the radio whenever they come on.  It has another 2 songs that are just awful in a normal way.  The other songs are mediocre/okay but I honestly think I'm overrating them just because I'm so grateful that they aren't Creature Comfort.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Butter on January 16, 2019, 02:56:41 PM
Don't get me wrong, though.  They're still better than Decemberists or Arcade Fire.

Decemberists is occasionally tolerable.  Arcade Fire is great, you're just being curmudgeonly, or turned off by their pretension.

I checked, one National song, "The System Only Dreams in Total Darkness".  I got tired of that one right quick.

I wouldn't say I was ever a huge Arcade Fire fan, but I liked their first few albums.  Reflektor sucked, but you could kind of write that one off as an "experimental album."  The new one though, really, REALLY sucks.

I think we discussed this before.  Arcade Fire to me is a bit formulaic and yes, pretentious.  Which generally meant that an Arcade Fire album had at least 1 song that sort of annoyed me and 1 song that I thought was brilliant.  The exact ratio differs, but it's usually close to 1:1 and the difference is really whether the rest of the songs are mediocre or kind of good.

I'd say this last Arcade Fire album has 2 songs that are beyond just bad, they're unlistenable to me.  I literally have to change the station or turn off the radio whenever they come on.  It has another 2 songs that are just awful in a normal way.  The other songs are mediocre/okay but I honestly think I'm overrating them just because I'm so grateful that they aren't Creature Comfort.

We did have this discussion before, but it doesn't make you any less wrong.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 16, 2019, 03:02:08 PM
The opinion that Marty Brennaman sucks is actually wildly popular everywhere in the US except Cincinnati.

How is Brennaman not a homer?  He's an insane homer.  It just maybe feels like he's not a homer because he sucks at it, just like he sucks at everything else.  How is that the one Reds player this guy doesn't wildly overrate and instead craps on all the time is Joey Votto?!?  JOEY VOTTO.  And even as a Cubs fan, I find his Kyle Schwarber fascination a little creepy.

Like how hard is this?  You like the best Reds player of the last 20 or so years BY FAR.  You hate on the generally overrated player from the team that you hate. 

Also FYI, Thom Brennaman also sucks.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 16, 2019, 03:05:22 PM
Don't get me wrong, though.  They're still better than Decemberists or Arcade Fire.

Decemberists is occasionally tolerable.  Arcade Fire is great, you're just being curmudgeonly, or turned off by their pretension.

I checked, one National song, "The System Only Dreams in Total Darkness".  I got tired of that one right quick.

I wouldn't say I was ever a huge Arcade Fire fan, but I liked their first few albums.  Reflektor sucked, but you could kind of write that one off as an "experimental album."  The new one though, really, REALLY sucks.

I think we discussed this before.  Arcade Fire to me is a bit formulaic and yes, pretentious.  Which generally meant that an Arcade Fire album had at least 1 song that sort of annoyed me and 1 song that I thought was brilliant.  The exact ratio differs, but it's usually close to 1:1 and the difference is really whether the rest of the songs are mediocre or kind of good.

I'd say this last Arcade Fire album has 2 songs that are beyond just bad, they're unlistenable to me.  I literally have to change the station or turn off the radio whenever they come on.  It has another 2 songs that are just awful in a normal way.  The other songs are mediocre/okay but I honestly think I'm overrating them just because I'm so grateful that they aren't Creature Comfort.

We did have this discussion before, but it doesn't make you any less wrong.

Well of course it doesn't.  That would be impossible as I can't be less than 0% wrong.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: daytime drinking on January 17, 2019, 01:56:49 PM
tom brady.  will there ever be again a more perfect man? 
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Kwyjibo on January 17, 2019, 03:28:20 PM
Unpopular opinion, at least around here maybe?:

I really don't like The National.  Never have.  Tried.  I probably have a song or two of theirs in my Spotify.  But their whole thing just sucks, AFAIC.  They should stop making music, at least together.


This sums up my feelings about The National precisely.  That guy should not sing, ever.  Although, what he does isn't really singing.

I could say the exact same thing about Wussy.  Which is unpopular locally to say the least.

Granted, they are miles better than when they started out... of course, that was back when they had a drummer that couldn't actually play the drums.  What's his name has improved greatly on guitar.  But Chuck has become a caricature and Lisa's voice isn't all that.  The song that WNKU played practically on repeat from that last album was awful... I couldn't understand a word.  I really liked it musically, but  Chuck and Lisa together turns me off.  I am honestly bewildered by their popularity.  I wanted to love it, tried to love it, again and again, but I don't and I don't understand how anybody else does either.

Also, couldn't agree more about Marty and Thom Brennaman.  I don't really get the love for Joe either, unless it was just for the sheer amusement of listening to him around the 7th or 8th when he was drunk off his ass and would only say 5 words per inning.  I remember well turning on the radio to a long stretch of white noise and thinking maybe something was wrong until you'd hear "And here comes the pitch" followed by more silence.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 17, 2019, 04:48:24 PM
Wussy is a little different to me, because I have Ass Ponys context.

Cleaver has never exactly been a songbird but he's a phenomenal song writer.  And at least with the Ass Ponys, it all fit together.  The songs played up his "unique vocal stylings" to create something pretty awesome and different.  Like, I couldn't imagine someone trying to sing Kung Fu reference at a The Voice audition.

His songs have changed a bit now, and of course it's a different band with a different/additional singer.  Wussy as a collective doesn't work as well for me as Ass Ponys did.  They're really uneven and to me, most of their stuff doesn't quite come together.  But sometimes it does.  There are a few great Wussy songs, and I will never knock any act that ever manages to come up with even one great song.  Plus, I know that Cleaver's voice CAN work in the right situation and having that context I can hear how their less-good songs are often pretty close but just come up a little short.

Lisa Walker for all I know could be the greatest singer in the world, or she could be more like Meg White where that non-traditional style is all she knows.  The only reference I have is probably Wussy's cover of Ceremony where it's a song I know, and I'd say the cover is fairly straight-ahead.  Problem is, the original has a rather flat and not-so-tuneful vocal in the first place.  I do think her singing and voice fit well with Cleavers, I don't know if the Wussy songs they're singing work so well.

Also, they both seemed like really cool and nice people the few times I've talked with them, so I will confess I'm probably favorably biased towards anything Wussy puts out.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: notoriouspbake on January 17, 2019, 04:57:25 PM
ketchup or catsup should be banished. it's only for people who like to taste red sugar paste instead of the flavor of the meal.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: euro60 on January 17, 2019, 06:33:53 PM
ketchup or catsup should be banished.
You are correct, sir, albeit for the wrong reason.

It's because there isn't a single meal in the world that cannot be improved when you add MORE MAYONNAISE.

You literally cannot think of a single dish that doesn't go with mayonnaise. And the more, the better.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 17, 2019, 07:42:36 PM
Je suis en accord avec le gentilhomme Belge.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Cockney Rebel on January 17, 2019, 09:31:36 PM
The fact that we play the national anthem prior to sporting events makes no sense and should be removed from the procedures.

It makes sense if it's one country vs another country playing, but tell me WHY precisely the national anthem needs to be played before each. and. every. athletic. contest. over. and. over?
Abso-fukkin-lutely.

At Cyclones games the anthem is preceded by ďtonightís national anthem is brought to you by (canít remember the name) bankĒ. And when it was played at the start of every flying pig marathon I took part in, I threw up in my mouth a little every fucking time.

Xenophobic bullshite
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: euro60 on January 17, 2019, 11:21:35 PM
Je suis en accord avec le gentilhomme Belge.
You are a good man, ZK, just as I always knew.

Just for the record: 60 percent of people from Belgium speak Dutch--some call it Flemish--(as I did growing up), not French. But it's all good.

More mayonnaise for everyone!
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Butter on January 18, 2019, 06:10:04 AM
Chocolate
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: foolsgold on January 18, 2019, 07:33:40 AM
Xenophobic bullshite

(https://66.media.tumblr.com/7b17e476bd1e2a2b4d305e2e9753930e/tumblr_inline_nr899qWwo11qhe5f0_500.gif)

Alright, what else?  I'll also stick up for Marty, even if he isn't the announcer he used to be.  Yeah, he's cranky and comes down on players needlessly hard, but I still enjoy listening to his broadcasts with Jeff Brantley.  One of the things I most admire about him, when he's calling the game and not opining, is he knows how to pace his calls.  Nothing is worse than an announcer who talks the entire time.  I very much enjoy hearing crowd noise or the old WOXY DJ vendor belting out an operatic "Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer" in the background punctuated by a "he fouled it off."  It makes me feel like I'm at the game even if I'm just sitting on the patio with friends.  I can see why people who listen closely would be annoyed by him, though.  For me, he's best as almost background music. 

As for Wussy, I like them a lot and, until the last album, were one of the only bands I like who got better from album to album culminating with Forever Sounds.  As much as I liked Ass Ponys, at times, they seemed like they played a little jokey, almost novelty songs.  They reminded me of that Presidents of the United States or that New Age Girl song at times.  The good thing was that those songs were usually offset by songs dripping in pathos.  I guess it comes down to what I play at home.  The only AP album that gets semi-regular play is Lohio, but I'll play a lot more Wussy, especially the middle to late era stuff. 

Since Boxer, every National release is basically the same album.  Same with Elbow.  It's good for what it is, but there is almost no sonic differences between them, so they sound samey and all bleed into one.

As much as I love mayo, and I do love me some mayo, I have to have it fairly hidden away since handling mayo by itself makes me nauseous.  So, I can't really do mayo on fries unless it's augmented by curry or made into a remoulade.  But, glop it on a BLT and I'm happy.  I also think that certain dishes lend themselves better to mayo and others are better suited for Miracle Whip.  Chicken salad is 100% Miracle Whip, but potato salad is mayo all the way. 

Ketchup is embryonic BBQ sauce.  There is nothing that ketchup can do that a tomato based BBQ sauce can't do a million times better. 
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Dan on January 18, 2019, 11:21:12 AM
ketchup or catsup should be banished. it's only for people who like to taste red sugar paste instead of the flavor of the meal.

In high school I took an Anatomy and Physiology class, and the teacher had us dissect a number of different animals over the course of the year (I remember and rat and a frog, but I know there were more). This teacher also taught biology classes. 

One day he told us a story that basically went: years prior, he noticed that he loved ketchup. It was so good. He was putting ketchup on everything. EVERYTHING. It became that ketchup made all of his food taste better. Then he thought about it some more... and realized that the years and years and years of teaching and having all that formaldehyde nearby had dulled and eventually killed his taste buds. Ketchup was the last flavor to go.

Sad story, but if that's a real thing (unverified)...then I cannot hate anyone who can only taste ketchup anymore.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 18, 2019, 11:27:36 AM
Je suis en accord avec le gentilhomme Belge.
You are a good man, ZK, just as I always knew.

Just for the record: 60 percent of people from Belgium speak Dutch--some call it Flemish--(as I did growing up), not French. But it's all good.

More mayonnaise for everyone!

Yeah, I know.  I was gonna try to see if I could google translate something into Dutch/Flemish, but that seems impossible.  I thought it wouldnít be too bad since it is closer to English than the Romance languages, but I was dead wrong.  I had to abandon following Lokeren because I could not make heads or tails out of anything written about them.  So half-ass Walloon was the best I could do.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Dan on January 18, 2019, 01:21:31 PM
Not defending it, but that was instituted after 9/11 when there was this huge swell of national pride. Everyone was really with it at the time (seemingly). Problem is that if you try to take it away it looks like you hate your country.

Actually, it started in WWII.

Correction, WWI

https://www.history.com/news/why-the-star-spangled-banner-is-played-at-sporting-events

Thanks! I was referencing the "America the Beautiful" element of the 7th inning stretch, but this is nice too.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Drjohnrock on January 18, 2019, 01:26:39 PM
ketchup or catsup should be banished.
You are correct, sir, albeit for the wrong reason.

It's because there isn't a single meal in the world that cannot be improved when you add MORE MAYONNAISE.

You literally cannot think of a single dish that doesn't go with mayonnaise. And the more, the better.



Can't go all in on mayonnaise like you but it does work well with some foods you wouldn't think it would.  When I was growing up, a kid in my neighborhood was eating a peanut butter and mayonnaise sandwich.  No one else I knew ever ate such a concoction.  I thought he was fucking crazy until I tried it myself and found it wasn't bad at all.  I still have one occasionally.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Butter on January 18, 2019, 02:42:37 PM
I want everyone to list the objectively worst song in their streaming or personal catalog that they enjoy:

I think I have mentioned I am a sucker for dance/bass songs.

So HARLEM SHAKE just came on in the shuffle.  Probably that or MACARENA.  C-Fan groans every time MACARENA comes on, then stares at me in disbelief.  To be fair, it's not like it's often.

What I'm saying is, make me feel better.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: foolsgold on January 18, 2019, 03:19:18 PM
Easily, it's Poing by the legendary Rotterdam Termination Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ6jZgMaZk4
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Dan on January 18, 2019, 03:20:05 PM
I have always enjoyed some of the early Britney Spears hits. Baby One More Time or...oooh.... I love love love Crazy.

I know you all think they are terrible though.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: c-lando on January 18, 2019, 03:41:03 PM
I have always enjoyed some of the early Britney Spears hits. Baby One More Time or...oooh.... I love love love Crazy.

I know you all think they are terrible though.
I didn't really "get" Britney until I started doing cardio dance workouts (aka JAZZERCISE).
A whole new world of workout jams opened up to me. I saw the light!
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: euro60 on January 18, 2019, 04:44:37 PM
I have always enjoyed some of the early Britney Spears hits. Baby One More Time or...oooh.... I love love love Crazy.

I know you all think they are terrible though.
There is no shame in loving Britney's stuff. I have all of her albums (admittedly I bought most of them for $1 or $2 at Half Price Books). The first 3 albums and 2011's Femme Fatale", are all sheer genius. The other early albums were pretty good too.

Her live shows are pure guilty pleasures. Her Vegas show was outstanding (in my book).

Sadly, her last two albums, "Britney Jean" and "Glory", sucked big time.
 
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Paco on January 18, 2019, 05:00:44 PM
i would say it's Moves Like Jagger.
For.....reasons.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Paco on January 18, 2019, 05:02:14 PM
Not defending it, but that was instituted after 9/11 when there was this huge swell of national pride. Everyone was really with it at the time (seemingly). Problem is that if you try to take it away it looks like you hate your country.

Actually, it started in WWII.

Oh, i was looking at your original post hating on the national anthem.
Correction, WWI

https://www.history.com/news/why-the-star-spangled-banner-is-played-at-sporting-events

Thanks! I was referencing the "America the Beautiful" element of the 7th inning stretch, but this is nice too.

I was looking at your first post hating on the national anthem.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Butter on January 18, 2019, 05:47:31 PM
Quote from: euro60
There is no shame in loving Britney's stuff.

Isn't there?
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: euro60 on January 18, 2019, 05:50:33 PM
Quote from: euro60
There is no shame in loving Britney's stuff.

Isn't there?
If you wanna feel shameful for liking Britney, go right ahead.

I feel NO SHAME.
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Post by: MissKitty on January 18, 2019, 06:29:13 PM
I want everyone to list the objectively worst song in their streaming or personal catalog that they enjoy:

I think I have mentioned I am a sucker for dance/bass songs.

So HARLEM SHAKE just came on in the shuffle.  Probably that or MACARENA.  C-Fan groans every time MACARENA comes on, then stares at me in disbelief.  To be fair, it's not like it's often.

What I'm saying is, make me feel better.

Pitbulll "Fireball."
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Post by: c-lando on January 18, 2019, 10:01:31 PM
I want everyone to list the objectively worst song in their streaming or personal catalog that they enjoy:

I think I have mentioned I am a sucker for dance/bass songs.

So HARLEM SHAKE just came on in the shuffle.  Probably that or MACARENA.  C-Fan groans every time MACARENA comes on, then stares at me in disbelief.  To be fair, it's not like it's often.

What I'm saying is, make me feel better.

Ace of Base - "The Sign"
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: euro60 on January 18, 2019, 10:50:40 PM

Ace of Base - "The Sign"
Agreed! That first Ace of Base is a guilty pleasure right up there with Britney!
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Butter on January 18, 2019, 11:20:19 PM
Quote from: euro60
There is no shame in loving Britney's stuff.

Isn't there?
If you wanna feel shameful for liking Britney, go right ahead.

I feel NO SHAME.

I also feel no shame because Britney suuuuuuucks
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Post by: Drjohnrock on January 18, 2019, 11:56:51 PM
The 1910 Cotton Candy Castle by the bubblegum group 1910 Fruitgum Company.  It's even worse than their radio hits.  A guilty pleasure if there ever was one.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 19, 2019, 02:14:33 AM
I have always enjoyed some of the early Britney Spears hits. Baby One More Time or...oooh.... I love love love Crazy.

I know you all think they are terrible though.

Thereís no shame in liking Britney Spears songs.  Sheís actually not a bad singer, though her range is kind of low and she maybe doesnít have the purest voice. She made it work for her in her heyday, though.

Max Martin is kind of a genius.  Dude has what, like 30 #1 songs or something?  He actually uses some rather unusual and sophisticated chord progressions for pop.  Especially for his early Britney stuff.  Probably because Spears had no pretensions as a songwriter or a desire for a particular sound and was more into the dancing so Martin had freer rein.  I think both Baby One More Time and Crazy are both in minor keys, which you might not expect.

Thereís certain things he does which are a little formulaic, but 1. Itís pop dance music.  You have to keep it simple 2.  People often pay him crazy money to write a song just like another one, so he does, 3.  You try writing like 500 songs and have them all be different. 

Admittedly a lot of his later work tends toward the same old I-V-vi-IV everyone else uses.  Theyíre still catchy, but not as interesting. 

But anyway, yeah.  Critics jizz all over Robyn but Body Talk is Max Martin, too. 
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Post by: Dan on January 19, 2019, 04:26:11 PM
Thought of two more that I love:

Pitbull's "Timber"

T.A.T.U.'s "All The Things She Said"
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Post by: Zafer Kaya on January 19, 2019, 05:04:55 PM
Canít help you there.  Those two just suck.
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Post by: Kwyjibo on January 20, 2019, 01:01:44 PM
I had a Fresh Beat Band song in my iTunes for a while.  Not proud of that.  I either deleted it or don't sync it anymore so it might as well be gone.  I think I have some Katy Perry songs...
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Post by: Kwyjibo on January 20, 2019, 01:12:31 PM
Wussy is a little different to me, because I have Ass Ponys context.

I also have Ass Ponys context.  I probably saw them live two dozen times. Wussy maybe half a dozen.  And I know both Chuck and Lisa socially, though I haven't spoken to either in years.  I dunno, I just vastly prefer AP, though I'll agree with FG that they were more than a little schtick-y. 
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Post by: Ella Minnow Pea on January 21, 2019, 05:43:32 PM
Another Ace of Base  "The Sign" fan here. Attributed to first hearing it during my semester abroad in Luxembourg.

I also enjoy "What Is Love" by Haddaway.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: twentyshots on January 21, 2019, 11:37:53 PM
-legos......enough of that crap.

-c'mon, man! there are too many types of pretzels. basic twists, rods, nuggets, sticks, bites, knobs, crisps, knots, soft ones, super hard-ass ones...... whatever the fuck they are.....stop with all of that crap.

-flat toothpicks. WASTE OF TIME. CHEAP CRAP.

-four horsemen of the apocalypse: pestilence, ok. famine, ok. war, ok. and....death? what? isn't death the result of the other three? lazy writing! CRAP!
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Post by: Butter on January 22, 2019, 06:55:44 AM
-c'mon, man! there are too many types of pretzels. basic twists, rods, nuggets, sticks, bites, knobs, crisps, knots, soft ones, super hard-ass ones...... whatever the fuck they are.....stop with all of that crap.

Buffalo pretzel nuggets.  The best.
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Post by: va-vacious on January 22, 2019, 09:08:52 PM
Another Ace of Base  "The Sign" fan here. Attributed to first hearing it during my semester abroad in Luxembourg.

I also enjoy "What Is Love" by Haddaway.

I figured the Ace of Base mention would bring you out!!!
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: daytime drinking on January 22, 2019, 10:09:23 PM
fuckin love legos.  we never had those stupid kits growing up.  just a box.  a box with potential.  wife came home one day with a box of legos.  there's some facebook or whatever thing about neighbors giving away shit.  shit yeah.  complete absorption my daughter and i.  we leave each other alone and build.  build

half the pieces are from those stupid fuckin kits and not even enough to actually try and build whatever the hell the idea was.  you can't incorporate them in any capacity into a flying assault prison so you just chuck those pieces under the coach.  one thing that legos of today that i wouldn't even have realized was cool back then and even though it's totally stale now, mustaches.  there's even sexy hair   
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Dan on January 23, 2019, 05:06:11 PM
I do love giving Legos as a gift to nieces and nephews. I have no idea if they love them, and I don't have to deal with stepping on them, but I think they are great gifts.
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Post by: daytime drinking on January 31, 2019, 01:19:14 PM
i'm having so much fun with these legos.  my latest discovery is coffee cups.  i've at least got two my guys drinking coffee.  one's, i shit you not, an old west sheriff.  the old west has been motif du jour for most of my life.  he's my captain.  the driver is the other guy.  he's got wavy blond blonde, see thru shades, and a shit eating grin.  i'm reading the bhagavad gita right now and this is a manifestation of my attachment.  i shouldn't do that 
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: euro60 on January 31, 2019, 11:08:31 PM
i'm having so much fun with these legos.  my latest discovery is coffee cups.  i've at least got two my guys drinking coffee.  one's, i shit you not, an old west sheriff.  the old west has been motif du jour for most of my life.  he's my captain.  the driver is the other guy.  he's got wavy blond blonde, see thru shades, and a shit eating grin.  i'm reading the bhagavad gita right now and this is a manifestation of my attachment.  i shouldn't do that
I honestly have no idea what you just said there...
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Butter on February 01, 2019, 05:53:34 AM
Death Cab for Cutie. Also sucks. I've had enough of that guy's voice to last me the rest of my life.

There are a lot of songs that I once loved, that thanks to radio I have also heard enough to last me the rest of my life.  "Losing my Religion" comes to mind.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: c-lando on February 01, 2019, 07:59:16 AM
Least favorite Prince song, "Purple Rain".
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Post by: foolsgold on February 01, 2019, 08:29:03 AM
Not Cream?
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: c-lando on February 01, 2019, 08:44:46 AM
Not Cream?
Oh, DAMMIT.
foolsgold knows me better than I know myself.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: daytime drinking on February 01, 2019, 09:44:04 AM
i'm having so much fun with these legos.  my latest discovery is coffee cups.  i've at least got two my guys drinking coffee.  one's, i shit you not, an old west sheriff.  the old west has been motif du jour for most of my life.  he's my captain.  the driver is the other guy.  he's got wavy blond blonde, see thru shades, and a shit eating grin.  i'm reading the bhagavad gita right now and this is a manifestation of my attachment.  i shouldn't do that
I honestly have no idea what you just said there...

lego accessories.  i don't think lego's had ever come with accessories.  although i forget what they did have.   they have country western people, a texas billionaire, prison undershirts, black people, handcuffs, beards and all the women have a sly look on their face.   i forgot to mention that all the black people either look crazy or they're about to commit a crime.  i found that fascinating

now do you understand my attachment? 
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: foolsgold on February 01, 2019, 02:52:12 PM
I hope Tom Brady wins the Super Bowl.  Yes, he's a cheating, joyless, skillwise average QB who is probably/definitely a horrible human being in the real world, but dammit if I don't thoroughly enjoy watching him play.  He's the QB I wish the Bengals had or, at least, has the temperment of a QB I wish the Bengals had.  He's one of the very few athletes I've seen who gets pissed off and then proceeds to demoralize and beat his opponent.  It's weird that I find nearly everything about the man awful, except for his ability to win.  Besides, fuck the Rams.  They shouldn't be there anyway.
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Post by: Zafer Kaya on February 01, 2019, 02:57:25 PM
I actually like Tom Brady okay.  He's not my favorite or anywhere close, but I don't dislike him either.

I feel about Belichick the way you feel about Brady.  He seems like he doesn't even enjoy coaching.  And yeah, he cheats likea madman.  Plus he's a Trump supporter.  But he is an incredible coach.  Except I don't hope Belichick wins the superbowl.  I hope he loses 548-3.  I just have to grudgingly admire his coaching skills.
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Post by: daytime drinking on February 01, 2019, 03:57:25 PM
I hope Tom Brady wins the Super Bowl.  Yes, he's a cheating, joyless, skillwise average QB who is probably/definitely a horrible human being in the real world, but dammit if I don't thoroughly enjoy watching him play.  He's the QB I wish the Bengals had or, at least, has the temperment of a QB I wish the Bengals had.  He's one of the very few athletes I've seen who gets pissed off and then proceeds to demoralize and beat his opponent.  It's weird that I find nearly everything about the man awful, except for his ability to win.  Besides, fuck the Rams.  They shouldn't be there anyway.

what's awful about brady? 
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Post by: euro60 on February 02, 2019, 12:25:08 AM
I hope Tom Brady wins the Super Bowl.  Yes, he's a cheating, joyless, skillwise average QB who is probably/definitely a horrible human being in the real world, but dammit if I don't thoroughly enjoy watching him play.  He's the QB I wish the Bengals had or, at least, has the temperment of a QB I wish the Bengals had.  He's one of the very few athletes I've seen who gets pissed off and then proceeds to demoralize and beat his opponent.  It's weird that I find nearly everything about the man awful, except for his ability to win.  Besides, fuck the Rams.  They shouldn't be there anyway.
agreed. I will be rooting for the Pats and Tom Brady, the GOAT for sure.

It reminds me of a long-ago conversation I had with my son when we were watching Micheal Jordan in the NBA playoffs, 20 years ago or even more? He told me "I wish Micheal Jordan would retire already!" (as he was rooting for the Pacers, yet again beaten) and I told him, "Enjoy him while you can, he's the GOAT". Many years later, my son came around about that.

Look, you may or may not like the Pats, I certainly don't have any affinity for them as such. But you cannot dismiss the level of excellency they have achieved. The Bengals could only hope for that. And Tom Brady is surely the GOAT in the NFL.
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Post by: Zafer Kaya on February 02, 2019, 01:42:39 AM
Yeah see, thatís why everyone hates Tom Brady.

Iíd argue he isnít even the best QB of his generation.  Or the second best.
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Post by: daytime drinking on February 02, 2019, 08:14:22 AM
big ben or brees? 
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Post by: Zafer Kaya on February 02, 2019, 01:55:22 PM
Yeah, I would say Brees has edge.

To be fair, I think a decent case could be made for any of Brees, Manning, Rodgers, Brady, or yeah, even Roethlisberger although IMO he is a notch below.  I could possibly even entertain an argument for Romo in that group although not as #1.

Brady is an easy HoFer.  He's undeniably great.  I have no problem with him in the debate as GOAT.  He deserves strong consideration.  It's just that to gauge number of people there is no debate.  He's just clearly the best, like forget Brees and those guys, forget Montana or Marino.  It's just Brady.  And those people won't give you legit stats
Or reasoning.

There are fans that are sort of fairweather in the sense they don't follow bad players or bad teams.   They are mostly interested in seeing the game played at its highest level.  Which is  where euro60 seems to be coming from.  I think he's over the top in his assessment, but he is appreciating the skills a d artistry of a great player.

Then there are the dickhead fans who only follow good teams and players because they feel like the world is divided into winners and losers.  And they want desperately to be winners and they feel like following a winner is evidence if their own winnernessin a game re organize game sort of way.  These are the guys who think every game us won by who wants it more and the team that wants it less nost is chokes and losers.  Brady is the posreboy for those fans.  Which is not Brady's fault.  But it makes him an easy guy to hate.

Personally, I like Yom Brady because I get legit joy from hating him.  I respect that.

My favorite Tom Brady story is that Jeannie Buss plays fantasy football and she refuses to draft Tom Brady on any of her teams just because she hates him as a fan.  Like, if anyone could appreciate athletes and separate personality and legit dickishness from fan sentiment, it would be her.  I'd also argue she is the Tom Brafy of owners in a lot of ways.  And she hates Tom Brady.
 
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Post by: daytime drinking on February 02, 2019, 03:33:42 PM
i always forget about aaron rodgers.  what's up with the pack having legendary qb's with barely any return?  as much as i hate the steelers, i've always had a soft spot for ben.  he's a marvel of a qb.  a game manager with elite talent.  to tackle him is akin to tackling the statue that one day will grace the presumable square in flag city usa
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Post by: euro60 on February 02, 2019, 11:28:49 PM
Yeah, I would say Brees has edge.
 
Over Tom Brady? In what universe are you living? I mean, Brees is great, but c'mom. Just looking at the Pats record in the last 19 years tell you all you need to know. And what would the Pats be without Brady? ..... Exactly.
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Post by: Zafer Kaya on February 03, 2019, 10:33:49 AM
Where would the Saints be without Brees?  Or the Packers without Rodgers?  Or the Seahawks without Russell? 

All those teams would be awful without their QB.  The Patriots with an average QB would of course also be much worse.  But they'd probably not be awful, especially considering they play in what is fairly consistently the shittiest division in the NFL.  I mean, come on.  Dolphins, Jets, Bills.  Those teams don't even try.

Brees has more yards, Brady has more TDs. That is what you'd expect from a good QB on a bad team vs a good QB on competent team.  Brees has more completions, more yards, but also more INTs.  Which is again what you,d expect from a QB who has to throw a lot and take chances.

My feeling is that if Brees were on the Pats and Brady on the Saints, nothing much would change.  Both QBs would still be awesome, but their stats (including championships) would be reversed. 

Also, both QBs play in an era where they get massive protection in the rules, plus it's pass interference if a DB so much as glances a receiver.  So you can't really compare them to players like Montana easily.  It's much easier for QB's to be awesome these days.
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Post by: daytime drinking on February 03, 2019, 02:25:10 PM
i just looked up their stats.  drew's got 5,000 yards on tom and like twenty touchdowns.  of course, tom still has a game left to play
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Post by: daytime drinking on February 03, 2019, 02:27:42 PM
i mean three more touchdowns
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Post by: Zafer Kaya on February 10, 2019, 09:49:11 PM
I want everyone to list the objectively worst song in their streaming or personal catalog that they enjoy:

I think I have mentioned I am a sucker for dance/bass songs.

So HARLEM SHAKE just came on in the shuffle.  Probably that or MACARENA.  C-Fan groans every time MACARENA comes on, then stares at me in disbelief.  To be fair, it's not like it's often.

What I'm saying is, make me feel better.


Okay.  Do I spent some time yesterday thinking about this. 

I had some trouble with ďobjectively worstĒ because I donít know how to parse that.  I like a shit ton of power pop like songs that are all just 3-4 of the same Beatles jangly chords.  Or like Breeders.  Their songs are just childishly bad from a theoretical standpoint, but that is what gives them their charm.

So, I went with songs that for whatever reason, I think are bad.  Like, they just make me cringe and feel embarrassed.  Regardless of their reputation or what others think about them. Just me personally, have an immediate emotional reaction to the song like man this sucks.

Okay, then I did this on the other side as far as what I liked.  It had to be a song that I legit love, regardless of objective critical analysis or reputation.  The song has to hit me right in the feels.  So hard that I am embarrassed I like ANY song this much on top of the fact that I also think the song sucks. 

So itís like an emotional roller coaster with all of these feelings roiling inside me every time I hear the song.

So I went through my old database of albums I use to have and my old Rdio Catalog and Spotify library and came up with about 25 songs.

These songs had two strong themes. The first is, they all came out or I first heard them when I was young. That makes sense to me because when you are younger you are not as hung up on what is cool or aware of the cultural contexts.  So thereís a selection bias in that songs were the ones where I was more easily able to confirm my true feelings about the song.

The second thing is, they are almost all ballad-y, Pseudo-soul slow jams.  They all have a bit of soul, a bit of jazz/sophistication, but ultimately are very boring and well, white.  Somewhere between AM soft rock and quiet storm soul.  Itís like this brew of contradictions.  ďI am a manís man, but also I am really sensitive.Ē ďI want you to know I have insane musical chops, but also Iím also a songwriter for the common man.Ē  Just trying to pull off the impossible while also pandering grossly to the lowest pop common denominator.

I got to thinking, why isnít Prince like this?  First, legit talent, but also, I think because he was keenly aware of these contradictions.  When he was pop, he was pop.  When he was funk, he was funk.  He mixed genres but not all of them at once in the same song.  And also Prince purposely played a larger than life character.  He was like a comic book guy who embraced the fantasy and escapism, including the humor.  He did not take himself that seriously, it not being real was part of the fun.  I think he was fully aware that assless chaps were stupid on some level.  Then later on, when he tried to embrace hip-hop and other things he did actually lose his way.

The next level below this is like maybe Terrance Trent DíArby or perhaps Lenny Kravitz.  These guys also cultivated larger-than-life personas knowing they were on some level playing characters.  But they werenít able to properly separate their egos and real personalities from the rock star persona.  They took themselves too seriously at times.  Other times they went the other way and were just all show.  They had the goods, they jus didnít have the ability to edit themselves. 

Then the basement level is the artist who seemingly really took themselves seriously as super heroes.  While also probably having the least amount of skills.  But every once in a while they kinda got it right.  And to the extent they missed painfully, it still gets me in the feels because I relate to the cringe-y embarrassment of spectacular failure.  It makes me relate strongly to the song in a way that probably was not intended.

This explains I think why I at once hate smooth jazz yet also seem to have some natural affinity for it.  I relate to those dudes, but the thing I relate to also represents the part of me I dislike and find embarrassing.

Anyway, in the end one song stood out above the rest. Itís Try Again by Champaign.

Here is a YouTube link:  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pkb-YtIGFHU because I feel it is important for you to appreciate each member of this multi-ethnic band.  They all look EXACTLY and clownishly like what you would expect, while at the same time looking absolutely nothing like each other.  The Lionel Ritchie alike singer with his lusciously activated curls.  The nerdiest drummer in the world behind an electronic set with leather pants and zipper undone to expose his hairless scrawny chest, the sensitively bearded guitar player with jazz pretensions and someone is playing a Steinberger because OF COURSE he plays a Steinberger. 

 Feel the impossibility of trying to dance to this song and how it confuses even the vaunted Soul Train dancers.  I this a slow couples dance?  No, wait Iím a chick and think I need to do the solo sensuous twirling arms slow jam thing.  No wait, Iím a dude and I need to figure out how to rock out solemnly, or maybe funk out slowly?

I have been moved to tears by this song, for real.  Without knowing whether they are tears of raw beauty, rage, happiness, shame, or laughter.  Probably a bit of all of that.  I want this song to be played at my funeral.  Live.
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Post by: Zafer Kaya on February 10, 2019, 11:28:36 PM
Ooh.. I forgot that I rediscovered this on my journey:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm_QilrHkh8

That is a tight band.  TWO singers. TWO electronic percussionists.  TWO keyboard players.  One with the keytar and the other rocking the 90 degree dual Quiklok double tiers.

I remember this video vividly because I was and am secretly in love with the keyboard player. I have no idea why. The part where she plays two keyboards at once (and of course itís one from each angle and one from each tier for maximum visual impact and plus the one keyboard is placed at a stupid height for no reason just so they can angle it down and look cooler) while singing harmony, then still hits the keyboard splash right on time before breaking into her perfectly synced dance move is sublime.  I think the lead singer in green was 12 years old at the time.

I mean, itís a video so I doubt they were doing that live but still I remember thinking begrudgingly at the time that those guys were actually pretty good despair their annoying sugar pop wholesome songs.  Later, they did move into adult contemporary Quiet Storm territory with Youíve Got It Over Him and then into CCM.  And dude started playing a Steinberger BECAUSE OF COURSE HE PAYS A STEINBERGER.

Anyway, I hate this song but it still makes me dance.  I suppose that makes it a guilty pleasure but it wouldnít make my list of worst songs I love.  Because it isnít really super terrible and I donít really love it.  Itís just kind of a run-of-the-mill guilty pleasure, rather unremarkable except for me having a crush on the keyboard player.

Also, while Iím at it... I will admit I had a brief secret crush on Debbie Gibson. Everything from Electric Youth was crap and I hated her.  But then Lost in Your Eyes Came Out and it made me sigh and hug my pillow.  I mean, tbf she was pretty talented.  Wrote all her own stuff, then did Broadway.  Scored a soundtrack.
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Post by: MissKitty on February 11, 2019, 09:00:24 AM
I want everyone to list the objectively worst song in their streaming or personal catalog that they enjoy:

I think I have mentioned I am a sucker for dance/bass songs.

So HARLEM SHAKE just came on in the shuffle.  Probably that or MACARENA.  C-Fan groans every time MACARENA comes on, then stares at me in disbelief.  To be fair, it's not like it's often.

What I'm saying is, make me feel better.


Okay.  Do I spent some time yesterday thinking about this. 

Anyway, in the end one song stood out above the rest. Itís Try Again by Champaign.


I thought that song had been successfully purged from my memory banks. And it had. Until I clicked on that link.

DAMN YOU RVA.
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Post by: Zafer Kaya on February 11, 2019, 10:20:38 AM
That was a strange period in US pop history right after disco.  Like right around '80-'81. Everything on the radio was so smoothed out, and adult contemporary.  It was also kind of an oddly chaste/clean era.  I'm too young to really remember the AM/Yacht rock 70's but I find it hard to fathom that there was a wimpier era in pop music than '80-'81. 

It spanned every genre.  The Commodores went from crazy funk into Lionel Ritchie doing Endless Love with Diana Ross. In "rock," you had REO Speed Wagon, Styx and Journey churning out ballads left and right.  Marty Balin from Jefferson Airplane singing "Hearts."  Fucking Christopher Cross was everywhere.  Even John Lennon fell prey, because the hits on Double Fantasy were all kind of smoothed out and tame.  Anne Murray.  Cliff Richard.  Juice Newton.  Cliff Richard.  Little River Band.  Even jazz.  It was all going R&B smooth jazz or New Age.  My sister to this very day refuses to believe that George Benson is a legitimate jazz legend because all she knows about him is "Gimme the Night."
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Post by: Kwyjibo on February 11, 2019, 10:39:48 AM
I'd say it went beyond '81.  It's funny you should bring this up because I happened to hear I.G.Y. by Donald Fagen for the first time in probably 20 years yesterday and holy crap is that a smooth-jamz snooze-fest.
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Post by: Zafer Kaya on February 11, 2019, 01:20:20 PM
Yeah, it definitely persisted beyond that but I feel like somewhere around '80/'81 was the peak.

After that you started to get some new wave influence with say, Police.  And then like Cyndi Lauper, Huey Lewis, Madonna, Gogo's that dominated the pop scene for a bit, and then hair metal and the mall stars in the mid-80's.  Springsteen in '84 with Born to Run.  U2 in '87 with Joshua Tree.  The early rise of hip hop.  Punk.

Adult contemporary/smooth/very produced-type stuff was still a pretty significant presence on the chart all through the 80's both as a sort of semi-genre in and of itself as well as influencing other genres.  But I feel like those two first years of the 80's they just absolutely dominated the scene.  It was like the disco hangover.
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Post by: notoriouspbake on February 13, 2019, 10:28:12 PM
i really think radiohead's electronic phase sucks. i don't get why hail to the thief and beyond is heralded as great.
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Post by: Butter on February 14, 2019, 06:53:29 AM
You don't count Amnesiac or Kid A as part of their "electronic phase"?

If anything The Bends is the outlier.
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Post by: Zafer Kaya on February 14, 2019, 10:37:31 AM
I've been a vocal proponent of the "Radiohead is vastly overrated after OK Computer" position for years.

I can carve out an exception for Kid A and Amnesiac, which are pretty similar.  I'm not a huge fan of either of them, but they were bold as shit records to put out at that time period. Especially for a band like Radiohead that was coming off the huge success of OK Computer.  I find both those albums "difficult" to listen to.  It's too much work for me personally, but they are rewarding if you put the time in. 

Everything after those records is mostly boring, and to me actually rather safe.  They just sound like repeat watered down Kid A, and not only have Radiohead already done that sound but unfortunately electronic stuff in general started getting big and other acts ripped off their sound.
Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Dan on February 14, 2019, 03:26:22 PM
Other than a few individual tracks from The Bends and Ok Computer, I generally just don't want to listen to any Radiohead. I tried and tried to love them the way everyone seems to, but they never really stuck with me.

Title: Re: Share an Unpopular Opinion
Post by: Zafer Kaya on February 14, 2019, 04:35:17 PM
I suspect that appreciation of post-Ok Computer Radiohead is highly correlated with headphone listening and/or the degree to which you engage in similar immersive listening.  Maybe if you're taking a long drive or something.

I almost never just put on an album and just sit and listen to that album.  I mean, sometimes I will listen to an album and it's *mostly* what I'm doing but I'm still probably idly dorking around on the internet to some degree or my mind is wandering.

That's my thing with Radiohead.  It's not that I find it so unpleasurable to listen to, it's that it's just so easy for me to drift off into doing something else.