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Title: The Most Superfluous Rock Musicians of All Time
Post by: rva on March 17, 2006, 12:02:39 AM
#1 in a series:

DAVID BRYAN

OVERVIEW: David Rashbaum spent his formative years in New Jersey, playing in various bands with childhood pal Jon Bongiovi. Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately, or actually let's say indifferently) Bongiovi had music biz connections that Rashbaum did not.  Jon's cousin Tony was part owner of famed New York recording studio the Power Station, and hired Jon as a janitor, where he was free to record and generally messabout on his off hours.  

However it didn't take long before Jon Bongiovi's talent was apparent and soon he was recording demos with members of the E street band and drawing comparisons to the Boss himself.  It also helped that young Bongiovi happened to be extremely good lucking.  Naturally, a major label bidding war ensued.  But Bongiovi was a loyal guy, and having secured his contract and needing a band, immediately hired his friend Rashbaum to man the keys who by this time was attending the prestigious Julliard School.  

In order to de-emphasize his ethnicity, Bongiovi changed the spelling of his  name.  Of course millions of fans all over the world know him as none other Jon Bon Jovi. In order to de-emphasize his ethnicity, Rashbaum also changed his name, adopting his middle name as Bryan.  And of course dozens of fans all over New Jersey recognize him as "the guy who plays keyboards in Bon Jovi."

At the peak of Bon Jovi's fame, David Bryan was featured on the cover of Keyboard magazine and as an aspiring keyboardist myself, I remember the myriad of articles proclaiming him one of the finer keyboard players in rock.  Hey, remember that Bon Jovi song with the awesome keyboard riff? Me neither. What?  No that was Europe.

Twenty-some years later, Bon Jovi is still recording, having transformed themselves from photogenic hair band to pop balladeers to feel-good Springsteen-lite rockers.  Bryan's  style may have changed as well, but we
will never know.  We do know he is still sporting the same eighties curly long hair.  

PEAK OF SUPERFLUOSITY:  At the peak of their fame, Bon Jovi was invited to play at the 1989 VMA music awards.  The MTV brass were expecting a high energy performance of their hits, complete with Richie Sambora guitar pyrotechnics and Jon Bon Jovi's beautiful hair.  Instead the two took the stage, stunned the world, and sparked the "unplugged" phenomenon with by playing stunning acoustic versions of Living on a Prayer and Dead or Alive.  David Bryan was not there.  He would later release On a Full Moon, an album of him playing acoustic grand piano that that showcased (so we are told) "his extensive training on acoustic piano." (All Music Guide)

WHERE IS HE NOW?:  After suffering a potential "career" ending finger injury, Bryan recovered to release "Lunar Eclipse" on the prestigious Blues/jazz label Rounder in 2000.  The album is said to be a masterful display of technical chops, MIDI orchestration, and in musical styles from classical to jazz to electronica and of course, rock.  

Today, Bryan has gone back to doing what he does best.  If one looks closely enough, Bryan's non-signature hair can be seen in several frames of the hit video "Who Says You Can't Go Home?" utterly failing to draw our attention from the extremely photogenic Jon Bon Jovi and Jennifer Nettles.  It is said that he plays well on that song.
Title: The Most Superfluous Rock Musicians of All Time
Post by: rva on March 17, 2006, 12:06:43 AM
#2

LAURENCE TOLHURST

OVERVIEW:  A founding member of The Cure, Cure, Easy Cure, and The Easy Cure, Laurence "Lol" Tolhurst often appeared on album credits with his vocalist, drummer, guitarist, bassist, keyboard player and boyhood friend Robert Smith.  

Originally the band's non-existent drummer, it soon became obvious that he was better suited as non-existent keyboardist.  His failure to make sound was an ideal complement to Smith's stark, sparse playing and vocals on early Cure records. He was dumped from the "group" and replaced by the Psychedelic Furs' Roger O'Donnell prior to 1989's Disintegration.  As fate (or skills) would have it Disintegration was a radical departure from the Cure's previously angular sound, featuring lush orchestration and a heavy keyboard presence.

PEAK OF SUPERFLUOSITY:  It's a tossup between the goofy yet irresistable riff to "Close to Me" or the solo to "Just Like Heaven."  Both parts feature a devasting showcase of keyboard virtuosity requiring as many as one finger to play.  Not Lol Tolhurst's finger of course, but rather Lol Tolhurst's credited finger.

WHERE IS HE NOW?:  Tolhurst occupies a permanent room in Robert Smith's dungeon, having sued his former bandmate for royalties.  To this day, there is an ongoing controversy among fans over just how much Robert Smith played on those early records.  Smith claims that at least one but perhaps several of them were essentially solo records, but unfortunately he doesn't remember the exact events.  Among those who care, most agree that whoever it was on those records, it wasn't Lol Tolhurst.  The vast majority of however, don't give a rat's ass.

Tolhurst was last credited in 2004 with the minimalist elevator keyboards in the band Levinhurst, whose release "Perfect Life" garnered quite a bit of critical praise for Cindy Levinson's vocals.  Having ensured himself future superfluosity by not only marrying the band's vocalist but actually working a credit into the band name itself, Lol Tolhurst is far from done.  In fact, some would say he hasn't even started.
Title: The Most Superfluous Rock Musicians of All Time
Post by: rva on March 17, 2006, 01:49:23 AM
#3

PAUL RODGERS

OVERVIEW:   There are super bands, and superfluous bands.  Then there are bands that have Paul Rodgers in them.  Superfluous superband thy name is Bad Company.  Or superfluously, The Firm.  In 50 years of rock history, perhaps no musician has been as ubiquitously superfluous as Paul Rodgers, having sold 125 million records over a thirty year career.

If words are useless because actions speak louder, never has so much unasked for information been given so readily and with so little impact.  We've become privy to his feelings ("All Right Now") and his fantasies (Rock n' Roll Fantasy) and what kind of man he is ("Bad Company," "The Stealer," "The Hunter," "The Travelling Man," "Shooting Star"), and his immediate plans for the future ("Feel Like Making Love" "Ready for Love.")   And we've found it all mundane.  Incessently, unnecessarily mundane.  

You can't even talk about how superfluous Paul Rodgers is without superfluous use of the term "superfluous."  Dude has gone so far into superfluous that he's like wrapped all the way around back into necessary.  Vital even.  For he is the standard of superfluosity against which all others must be measured.

PEAK OF SUPERFLUOSITY:  Releasing greatest hits records.  We don't just have "The Free Story," but also "Chronicles."  Then there's "The Best of Free" "All Right Now" and "The Best of Free:  All Right Now."  And "Now," "Live" and "Now & Live."   I don't wonder at all how many singles are on this record, nor how many albums they came from.  oh.  10 from 6.

WHERE IS HE NOW?:  Still releasing greatest hits packages with already-used titles that tell us in excruciating detail that he's a rocker, these are his greatest hits, and here is how many there are how and when they were recorded.
Title: The Most Superfluous Rock Musicians of All Time
Post by: Cockney Rebel on March 17, 2006, 05:39:34 AM
#3 : PAUL RODGERS

SUPERFLUOSITY ADDENDUM:
Trying to be Freddie Mercury in a bastardization of Queen.

Officially took him from the very thinnest vestiges of "cool" into the category of "stupid cunt"
Title: The Most Superfluous Rock Musicians of All Time
Post by: foolsgold on March 17, 2006, 08:44:28 AM
Great thread idea, RVA!  I suppose that the Madchester Mascots (Bez, Barry Mooncult, Cressa) don't really count as they weren't musicians.  Although, Bez could play a mean maraca.

Right now, it is far too early in the morning to write something in great detail (hopefully later), I do want to nominate Andrew Fletcher of Depeche Mode.  Sure, his fingers touch the keyboards from time to time, but what else does he offer the band?  Dave Gahan has the sex appeal, Martin Gore writes everything, Alan Wilder was a good musician and had that brooding, mysteriousness that the ladies love, but Andy, well, Andy can't play, can't really sing, and looks like a guy you have do your taxes.

Peak: In the 101 Live video, he hunkers down behind his bank of keyboards, furrows his brow and plinks out a couple of notes before looking up at the crowd with relief written all over his mug that he didn't mess his part up.

Where is he now?:  Still with the band, still making more money than I can even dream of, still touring and still being boring.  Congrats, you lucky bastard.

edited to add this (http://www.nme.com/news/happy-mondays/22515) tidbit I read of www.nme.com today: Bez breaks world record for maracas
There really is a whole lot of shaking going on
Happy Mondays dancer Bez has helped to set a world record for maracas shaking.

The dancer, who was famed for his shaking work in Shaun Ryder's band, joined in with a maracas ensemble in Manchester on March 15.

Accompanied by the Inspiral Carpets' Clint Boon and members of the Manchester public, Bez led the way to the new world record as 406 shakers performed the Mondays' 'Step On '.

"This is one of those cool mass-participation records," Guinness Book Of Records editor Craig Glenday told the Daily Record. "The whole point is to get together with mates and have fun."

The maracas record was organised to mark the launch of XFM's new Manchester station.
Title: The Most Superfluous Rock Musicians of All Time
Post by: Bronzetree on March 17, 2006, 12:29:59 PM
Dude, these would be great for the 'zine.
Title: The Most Superfluous Rock Musicians of All Time
Post by: Nate on March 17, 2006, 12:33:50 PM
Indeed it would.  They're great.
Title: The Most Superfluous Rock Musicians of All Time
Post by: rva on March 17, 2006, 01:44:22 PM
Quote from: "Cockney Rebel"
#3 : PAUL RODGERS

SUPERFLUOSITY ADDENDUM:
Trying to be Freddie Mercury in a bastardization of Queen.

Officially took him from the very thinnest vestiges of "cool" into the category of "stupid cunt"


I didn't know this, but it's not surprising. I thought he just did like one benefit thing with them.

I root for David Bryan, and Andrew Fletcher (nice one, FG) and even Lol Tolhurst.  At worst, they're harmless and at best they have an "everyman" quality-- I'm absolutely confident I could replace Andrew Fletcher in Depeche Mode, so my rockstar dreams are still alive.

But Paul Rodgers.  Man, I hate that guy.  Just hate him.  Right down to the superfluous "d" in his lost name.
Title: The Most Superfluous Rock Musicians of All Time
Post by: Jonathan on March 17, 2006, 01:57:41 PM
Quote from: "foolsgold"
Great thread idea, RVA!  I suppose that the Madchester Mascots (Bez, Barry Mooncult, Cressa) don't really count as they weren't musicians.  Although, Bez could play a mean maraca.

Bez was who I fully expected to be No. 1 in a series. My favorite is the liner notes from Pills 'n' Thrills and Bellyaches, where they have the band listing:

Shaun Ryder - Lyrics and Vocals
Paul Ryder - Bass Guitar
Mark Day - Lead and Rhythm Guitar
Paul Davis - Keyboards and Programs
Gary Whelan - Drums
Bez - Bez

His job was just to be himself. Can you get any more superfluous?
Title: The Most Superfluous Rock Musicians of All Time
Post by: Sonic Boom on March 17, 2006, 02:03:46 PM
Quote from: "rva"

PEAK OF SUPERFLUOSITY:  Releasing greatest hits records.  We don't just have "The Free Story," but also "Chronicles."  Then there's "The Best of Free" "All Right Now" and "The Best of Free:  All Right Now."  And "Now," "Live" and "Now & Live."   I don't wonder at all how many singles are on this record, nor how many albums they came from.  oh.  10 from 6.

WHERE IS HE NOW?:  Still releasing greatest hits packages with already-used titles that tell us in excruciating detail that he's a rocker, these are his greatest hits, and here is how many there are how and when they were recorded.

That cracked me up right there.  :lol
Title: The Most Superfluous Rock Musicians of All Time
Post by: rva on March 17, 2006, 02:05:42 PM
Yeah, Bez is a good one.  Of course there's a tendency to overlook these guys do the sheer unnecessity of their existence.

I wonder if the previous maraca record was 405.  Because if not, then his presence was... you know.
Title: The Most Superfluous Rock Musicians of All Time
Post by: foolsgold on March 17, 2006, 02:07:24 PM
Quote from: "Jonathan"
Bez was who I fully expected to be No. 1 in a series. My favorite is the liner notes from Pills 'n' Thrills and Bellyaches, where they have the band listing:

Bez - Bez

His job was just to be himself. Can you get any more superfluous?


I forgot about that!  In the Bummed (I think) liners, he is credited as "Bez - Vibes".  And, try as I might, I hear absolutely no vibrophone on that record.

That said, it could be argued that Bez did have a profound influence on the band as he was the one who supplied Shaun and the boys with their first dose of ecstacy.  That little pill really shaped the Monday's direction.

So, I guess I just talked myself out of defending Bez as being an integral member of the band in favor of a tablet.  Go figure.
Title: The Most Superfluous Rock Musicians of All Time
Post by: Jonathan on March 17, 2006, 02:11:40 PM
Think of it as cementing Bez's place as No. 4 in a series...
Title: The Most Superfluous Rock Musicians of All Time
Post by: foolsgold on March 17, 2006, 02:34:26 PM
Professor Griff

Overview: The Minister of Information for Public Enemy.  His role in the group was somewhat hazy, but it appeared that he was in charge of the S1Ws and would occasionally say "Step" while directing their paramilitary dance routines.  It must be said that he did look pretty snappy in military fatigues. But the problem was, PE already had a hype man in Flava Flav and had a dance crew in the S1Ws.  Hell, they even had a writer in Harry Allen.  However, it all came unraveled when he gave an interview to the Washington Times which featured some pretty nifty anti-Semitic remarks.  He was sacked from the group and no one really noticed.
 
Peak: This is really hard one.  I'd suggest that his peak came well after he left the group.  Chuck D was being interviewed by a rather uppity Terry Gross and she kept banging on about the incident, actually coming somewhat undone.  It was an uncomfortable moment for the listener and probably for Chuck himself.  Either way, it shone an bad light on two people I really like, so he can go fuck himself for that.

Where is he now: Last I heard he released a couple of solo records and also formed a group called the Asiatic Disciples.  The sad thing is, after Flav's recent turn as a VH1 celebreality, he is no longer the most embarrassing member (or former member) of Public Enemy.
Title: The Most Superfluous Rock Musicians of All Time
Post by: Nate on March 17, 2006, 02:36:23 PM
Griff is back with P.E. and is on their last two albums, rapping, no less.
Title: The Most Superfluous Rock Musicians of All Time
Post by: foolsgold on March 17, 2006, 02:53:10 PM
This is why I like that, for years, I convinced myself that PE broke up after Fear of a Black Planet.
Title: The Most Superfluous Rock Musicians of All Time
Post by: Nate on March 17, 2006, 04:49:19 PM
Ouch.  Apocalypse '91 had its moments, yo.  'Shut Em Down,' 'By The Time I Get To Arizona,' some days I'll bust out the Anthrax/PE version of 'Bring The Noise' for fun.
Title: The Most Superfluous Rock Musicians of All Time
Post by: whigsgeek on March 17, 2006, 06:05:57 PM
I'd like to respectfully submit Andrew Ridgeley of Wham! to the list. When I have a minute, I'll post his dossier of superfluousness.
Title: The Most Superfluous Rock Musicians of All Time
Post by: rva on March 17, 2006, 06:12:45 PM
Yes, please do.  I have Andrew Ridgely in my list somewhere.   He married into Bananarama didn't he?
Title: Re: The Most Superfluous Rock Musicians of All Time
Post by: slow-dog on March 17, 2006, 06:33:28 PM
Quote from: "rva"
as an aspiring keyboardist myself


brilliant!
Title: The Most Superfluous Rock Musicians of All Time
Post by: slow-dog on March 17, 2006, 06:41:05 PM
I'm assuming that it's not even necessary to put Linda McCartney on the list.  She's like Lord Stanley, or Oscar--name the award after her, or put her likeness on the statue.
Title: The Most Superfluous Rock Musicians of All Time
Post by: whigsgeek on March 17, 2006, 08:50:52 PM
ANDREW RIDGELEY

OVERVIEW: Andrew John Ridgeley was born Andrew John Ridgeley on January 26, 1963, in Windlesham, Surrey, England, the first-born son of Jennipher Jill Ridgeley and Albert Mario Ridgeley.

Aphter relocating with his phamily to London, young Andrew made his date with superfluous history in September of 1975, when new student Georgios Kyraicos Panayiotou walked into Ridgeley’s classroom at Bushey Meads School in Watford. The two young guns quickly bonded over Queen and Elton John. While Gorgeous Georgios wanted desperately to become a singer, Andrew nearly missed his rightful place in superfluity by planning on life as a professional footballer.

Fortunately, the Greek gods were watching.

While in their teens, Ridgeley and Panayiotou formed A SKA BAND (emphasis mine) called The Executive. Tragically, The Executive only played two gigs, after which the members decided to take a creative break from each other. Andrew spent his time “developing and refining his formidable musical talents, remarkable sense of style, and artistic direction.” (ClubWham.Tripod.Com)

Enter the 1980s.

While boy bands like Duran Duran and Spandau Ballet were taking the world (and the hearts of young girls) by storm with their good looks, catchy pop tunes, and sense of style, Andrew Ridgeley and Georgios Panayiotou sought to blaze their own unique trail to pop stardom using a blend of good looks, catchy pop tunes, and sense of style.

(http://achimai.boo.jp/archives/wham.jpg)

Wham! made their television debut on the UK’s Top of the Pops and across the pond on American Bandstand in 1983. Their risky pop stardom strategy paid off in spades that year when “Wham! Rap,” co-written by Ridgeley, charted at #8 and “Bad Boys” charted at #2!

On the horizon, however, storm clouds were brewing.

By 1984, Georgios Panayiotou had become George Michael and Andrew Ridgeley became fucked. Michael now commandeered the band’s songwriting, leaving Andrew to “provide the intangible artistic development, control, and style for the group.” (ClubWham)

(http://www.jkkonsult.se/nostalgi/rock/Wham!.jpg)

Two years and numerous Michael-penned superhits later, Michael stuck the fatal fork in Wham! and went on to become a megastar and megalomaniac—two great tastes that taste great together. Twenty years later, Michael was arrested on suspicion of drug possession after being found slumped over the steering wheel of his car, leaving stunned fans everywhere wondering why Michael’s friends didn’t wake him up before they went-went.

Conversely, Ridgeley, staying true to his superfluous roots, became a Formula Three racecar driver and, even more inexplicably, released his own solo record titled Son of Albert. His label, however, titled it a sonofabitch and promptly dropped Andrew, “refusing to recognize his artistic evolution.” (ClubWham)

Ridgeley found solace in his marriage to Bananarama’s Keren Woodward, their son, Thomas, and the knowledge that millions of now-40-year-old women will always remember him fondly as “that other guy from Wham!.”

PEAK OF SUPERFLUOSITY: “Club Tropicana drinks are free; fun and sunshine, there's enough for everyone; all that's missing is the sea; but don't worry, you can suntan.”

WHERE IS HE NOW?: Andrew Ridgeley resides with his family in Cornwall, England, where he lends his considerable name and even more considerable free time to the nonprofit organization Surfers Against Sewage (http://www.sas.org.uk/).
Title: The Most Superfluous Rock Musicians of All Time
Post by: rva on March 17, 2006, 09:55:18 PM
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Title: The Most Superfluous Rock Musicians of All Time
Post by: Bronzetree on March 17, 2006, 11:18:59 PM
These are amazing.

Anyone care if I post these as a series on the mag?
Title: The Most Superfluous Rock Musicians of All Time
Post by: whigsgeek on March 18, 2006, 10:15:10 AM
Thanks, Wherle. I used to do a lot of freelance music writing, but it's been a while. This has got the ol' juices going again. (Thanks, rva!) I don't care if you post mine.
Title: The Most Superfluous Rock Musicians of All Time
Post by: whigsgeek on March 18, 2006, 10:26:32 AM
Hey, rva, do you mind if I do another one, this time on John Oates? (In the spirit of full disclosure, I've been a Hall & Oates fan since 4th grade. But that doesn't mean I'm in denial about his rightful place on the list.  :))
Title: The Most Superfluous Rock Musicians of All Time
Post by: rva on March 18, 2006, 11:48:12 AM
Of course I don't mind, whigsgeek.  This wasn't supposed to be like my "special" thread or anything.

Anyone who wants to can post on a superfluous rockstar.  Or argue against a post.  It's just a (hopefully) fun discussion topic.

Scott, you can any of mine for the 'zine if you want.  Feel free to clean 'em up and edit them how you need to.  I made some grammar and spelling errors.   And I like ending sentences with prepositions.
Title: The Most Superfluous Rock Musicians of All Time
Post by: Mr Pink on March 18, 2006, 09:10:29 PM
i'd like to throw jack irons (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:44jiea104xa7~T1) name into the fold...
Title: The Most Superfluous Rock Musicians of All Time
Post by: Buzzstein on March 19, 2006, 03:02:42 PM
How about that guy from the Mighty Mighty Bosstones who does nothing but dance?  Somebody write a thing on him.
Title: The Most Superfluous Rock Musicians of All Time
Post by: foolsgold on November 03, 2006, 12:05:38 PM
All the torturethon material got me thinking about this thread.  I've been mulling around a couple of members in my head, but it wasn't until I stumbled on to an Arrested Development show in Boston that I finally realized who should be next.

Granted, picking a extraneous member of a hip hop ensemble is probably a bit too easy.  Kind of like doing a mix CD with a city theme and having it be 90% hip hop.  But, while Arrested Development pumped out their biggest hits (ummm, "Tennessee" and "Mr. Wendal" and...ummm...a cover of "Redemption Song), I was inspired by one of the members to write the following:

Baba Oje

OVERVIEW:  He's that old guy from Arrested Development who wears the dashikis with a kofia and looks old and frail in the videos and at the shows.  He does occasionally raise the mic to his mouth and appears to be saying something, but either his mic is off or so low in the mix that nothing is audible.

PEAK: Obviously this came in 1992 when "3 Years, 5 Months & 2 Days in the Life Of..." was released and the group enjoyed success with the hit singles "Tennessee" and "Mr. Wendal".  They offered a refreshing alternative from all that scary gangsta rap that was cluttering the charts and secured a place in music history with their daring use of overalls and strawhats.  Among the members, Oje was, perhaps, the enigmatic.  He was kind of like that bad ass ninja dude in the kung fu movies who doesn't do anything for a long time, so you know when he makes his move, it's going to be fucking awesome.

But, old Oje never really made that move.  At the time, perhaps, fans were lead to believe that this guy was some sort of spiritual advisor that kept the group focused and grounded.  Perhaps, he was exactly what the likes of Dr. Dre, Snoop and Ice Cube needed to put down their gats and pick up something a bit less deadly.

But, it wasn't to last.  America enjoyed that brief break from the West Coast keeping it real, but by the time Arrested Development released their next album, it was back to the lowriders and colors.

PEAK OF SUPERFLUOSITY: That is hard to say.  I did a bit of research on this dude, but didn't come up with a whole lot, so I am loathe to understand what the guy did for the band.  Unlike other superfluous dancers like Bez, Cressa, Chas Smash, 75% of Prodigy, he really doesn't do anything on record or on stage.  He just wanders around and looks deep.  That said, at the show, the band took a break and Oje took the front of the stage to do a weird yoga routine that culminated with him on his knees bending all the way backwards.  The crowd ate it up.  I thought I might of seen his nuts.


WHERE IS HE NOW: On stage, doing yoga, wearing African robes and mouthing into his mic.  He's 72 and a vegan.  Bless him, he's still living the dream.  I do have to hand it to the band.  They can't be making much dough and the generosity they exhibit to this man really is rather touching.  Those old efficiency classes I took in my P&G days are kicking in, urging me to call Speech and tell him that he'd save up to "18%" if he'd give the old dude the boot.
Title: The Most Superfluous Rock Musicians of All Time
Post by: rva on November 03, 2006, 08:21:19 PM
That's some stellar work right there.  I believe you have indeed uncovered the must superfluous "musician" in the hip-hop category.

I was set to hand it to Jarobi White (not) of Tribe Called Quest, but I found out that after being credited as a "performer" on People's Instictive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm (despite not having a single line on any song), he "left" the group.   Apparently, he "re-joined" them for Bumbershoot this year doing whatever it is he does-- I think he's one of the people who gets to yell "Can I Kick It?"
Title: The Most Superfluous Rock Musicians of All Time
Post by: Jonathan on November 03, 2006, 11:34:17 PM
"Can I Kick It?" sounds like something Graham Taylor might yell.


(I made that joke anyway, knowing full well that only Rafe and CR, and possibly RVA, would get it.)
Title: Re: The Most Superfluous Rock Musicians of All Time
Post by: Drjohnrock on January 23, 2015, 04:24:19 PM
I don't believe Lol Tolhurst was nonexistent when he was the band's drummer--at least on live appearances.  There are live recordings on youtube of early Cure shows which verify this.  When he switched to keyboard, however--that's a different story.
Title: Re: The Most Superfluous Rock Musicians of All Time
Post by: Kwyjibo on January 26, 2015, 07:58:58 AM
Wow, did this thread just make a 9 year comeback?  That's gotta be a record.
Title: Re: The Most Superfluous Rock Musicians of All Time
Post by: cuddlyevil on January 26, 2015, 08:58:04 AM
This is the zombie thread of all zombie threads. Wowza.
Title: Re: The Most Superfluous Rock Musicians of All Time
Post by: Jonathan on November 16, 2017, 09:22:30 AM
Clearly, my Graham Taylor joke killed it.

And then I brought it back to life again. Sort of...