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 on: July 16, 2019, 07:24:02 AM 
Started by Ella Minnow Pea - Last post by Markalot
Palin shook my confidence in McCain.  It's the only time I've ever let a veep decide how I vote.  I mean there was Dan Quayle and I was a lot younger, but I didn't see Quayle as such a bad pick.  Palin though, horrible choice and made me doubt McCain's ability to make good decisions.   I still admire McCain, but I'm not sure he had what was needed to be President. 

 on: July 16, 2019, 07:12:15 AM 
Started by Ella Minnow Pea - Last post by dirk

Obama (this would have easily been McCain if not for Palin)

surprised that you voted based on a Vice Presidential nominee.... that would never enter my mind. It's all about the top line for me.
I think most people think the same way you do (myself included), but Palin was just such a terrible pick and so out there making waves showing how terrible she was that you couldn't really ignore her. Usually the VP is a fairly quiet, policy minded pick so they don't get a lot of attention. Palin was constantly trying to get in the spotlight and continually showing exactly how unqualified she was for the job, which not only reflected poorly on McCain and showed how much the GOP was controlling him (as she was a pick he would not normally make on his own), but also worried people because McCain wasn't in the best of health and she would be next in line.

 on: July 15, 2019, 11:09:13 PM 
Started by Ella Minnow Pea - Last post by euro60

Obama (this would have easily been McCain if not for Palin)

surprised that you voted based on a Vice Presidential nominee.... that would never enter my mind. It's all about the top line for me.

 on: July 15, 2019, 11:04:40 PM 
Started by Ella Minnow Pea - Last post by euro60
As a running joke (but not really), I always tell people "hey you wanna know who's gonna win the presidential elections, I know! I always vote for the losing candidate!"

2008: John McCain (RIP, what a great man)
3012: Mitch Romney
2016: Hillary

So based on that sad track record, Trump will be re-elected. Hey US, please prove me wrong!!!!!!

I became a US citizen in 2008 (while maintaining my Belgian citizenship--and I vote there too, but that's another story)

 on: July 15, 2019, 10:20:01 PM 
Started by clemsonfan - Last post by daytime drinking
one of my favorite parts of infinite jest is the poster that m. pemulis is gifted that reads yes i'm paranoid.  but am i paranoid enough?

with the little one i always make objects rhyme and with a y.  like socky wockies, wammy jammies.  there's a song and dance number with the socky wockies originating in milwaukee.  when i first heard fiddle leaf fig, i was envisioning a reclining leaf chair.  not a fan of watering house plants.  i'd like to not need a six foot ladder to get a majority of them because fuckin cats 

 on: July 15, 2019, 03:27:46 PM 
Started by whigsgeek - Last post by Butter
The most awkward thing I saw all season was Joyce in a Russian military uniform.

 on: July 15, 2019, 12:54:37 PM 
Started by whigsgeek - Last post by Zafer Kaya
I think the problem with Hopper and Joyce was they outgrew their characters.  I think that's mostly the issue with the season.

You can believe that a ragtag gang of misfit kids with (maybe some minor help from a few adults) could like, defeat the Goonies or Gremlins.  Once.  But it's harder to accept them winning an ongoing war where the enemies keep getting stronger.

They wanted to keep the central gang of kids as kids, which was the right decision.  But it they wanted to keep the kids that way, but the enemies get stronger it means other characters have to step to the plate.  So Hopper had to move from scruffygruff-but-loveable small time cop dad into action-adventure hero territory.  They didn't do that transition very well.  Same with Joyce.  In her case, they tried to keep her as the mom, but then it's kind of unbelievable that she's battling Russians, etc.

I think it hurt El, too because for a large part of the season she was sort of carrying the kids.  Her character swung between "I'm just a teen" El, and "Actually no, I had a massively messed up upbringing that has given me insane mental powers, so I should not be fitting in this comfortably at all."  And for too much of the season, the fights were just the rest of the kids about to get their asses kicked, then El does something awesome.

All of this stuff is a little nit-picky.  They still got a ton more right than they got wrong, and I highly enjoyed the season.  I just feel like after season 1 I could see all these ideas and directions they could go and was looking forward to season 2.  After season 2, I felt like pretty much everything was good and they could end the season right there, but I wouldn't mind a little extra.  After season 3 though, I just feel like they're kind of boxed in now.  The only way I can see is if they do a time-forward reboot and it turns into maybe more Indiana Jones.  But that interests me a lot less.

 on: July 15, 2019, 11:25:57 AM 
Started by c-lando - Last post by Dan
Movies seen in 2019 (new movies in bold):
1. Shaun of the Dead
2. Twister
3. Super Troopers 2
4. A Quiet Place
5. The Untouchables
6. Solo: A Star Wars Story
7. Rabbit-Proof Fence

8. Shine
9. The Fugitive
10. The Firm
11. Meru

12. What We Do In The Shadows
13. The Godfather
14. The Incredibles 2
15. Catwalk: Tales from the Cat Show Circuit

16. Avengers: Infinity War
17. Rampage
18. Four Weddings and Funeral
19. High Flying Bird
20. The Old Man and the Gun
21. The Pelican Brief

22. Deadpool 2
23. Mission Impossible: Fallout
24. Peppermint
25. Crazy Rich Asians
26. Training Day

27. Deadpool
28. Captain Marvel
29. Green Book
30. Lego Movie 2
31. Dead Poets Society
32. The Girl in the Spider's Web
33. Ralph Breaks the Internet
34. Triple Frontier

35. Maverick
36. Reality Bites
37. A Knight's Tale
38. Major League
39. The Natural
40. Avengers: Infinity War
41. Avengers: Endgame
42. Edge of Tomorrow
43. The Meg
44. Comedian
45. Destination Wedding

46. Bloodsport
47. Bad Times at the El Royale
48. Booksmart

49. Clue
50. Men In Black: International
51. Notting Hill
52. V for Vendetta
53. Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse

V for Vendetta: After it was over, I said to my wife, "Top 10 movie ever?" to which she thought I was nuts. But I stand by it! I do love this film tremendously.

Spider-Man cartoon: really really good. We enjoyed it thoroughly. The animation was incredible, the NYC references fantastic, and I did enjoy the various Spider-Characters quite a bit. Recommended for something random and light and good.

 on: July 15, 2019, 11:00:44 AM 
Started by c-lando - Last post by Butter
1. Shirkers (Netflix) - 9
2. Blockers - 6
3. Crazy Rich Asians - 8
4. First Reformed (Amazon Prime) - 5
5. Minding the Gap (Hulu) - 8
6. If Beale Street Could Talk - 9
7. Super Troopers - 6
8. Fyre (Netflix) - 8
9. Remastered: Massacre at the Stadium (Netflix) - 6
10. Wayne's World
11. They Shall Not Grow Old - 8
12. The Favourite - 9
13. Abducted in Plain Sight (Netflix) - 7
14. Leave No Trace - 7
15. Ghostbusters (the "all-women" one) - 6
16. Alita: Battle Angel (in 3D!  on a cruise ship!) - 7
17. Superpower Dogs (in 3D!  on a cruise ship!) - 7
18. Us - 7
19. Too Funny to Fail: The Life and Death of the Dana Carvey Show (Hulu) - 8
20. Captain Marvel - 7
21. Period. End of Sentence. - 9
22. Free Solo - 8
23. Tag - 6
24. Avengers: Endgame - 8
25. The Departed - 8
26. Unsane - 9
27. The Strangers: Prey at Night - 5
28. mother! - 5
29. The Ballad of Buster Scruggs - 7
30. Unseen - 6
31. The Endless - 3
32. Hereditary (re-watch)
33. Burning - 7
34. Starry Eyes - 3
35. Amy - 8
36. Shazam - 7
37. Long Shot - 7
38. Clue
39. Leaving Neverland (HBO) - 8
40. Perfect Bid (Netflix) - 4
41. Beautiful Boy (Amazon Prime) - 6
42. The Disaster Artist (Amazon Prime) - 7
43. Missing Mom (Amazon Prime) - 1
44. Wine Country (Netflix) - 5
45. The Perfection (Netflix) - 7
46. Obvious Child - 7
47. Always Be My Maybe (Netflix) - 8
48. Booksmart - 8
49. I Am Mother (Netflix) - 7
50. Hell or High Water - 7
51. Toy Story 4 - 7
52. Caddyshack
53. Miracle (2004) - 7
54. Spiderman: Far From Home - 7
55. Vice - 7

56. Midsommar - 10

I realized about halfway through that despite the weird imagery and shit that was going on (and it starts off unsettling and stays that way), that I was smiling way too much.  I just was so enjoying the experience of the movie and of this environment specifically, that it was written on my face as people were being offed.

There is a LOT of disturbing imagery, maybe a little too much.  Gore for gore's sake in a couple of spots...close-ups of it that were intended for sure, as a juxtaposition of this cheery, smily group of people.

Ultimately it deals with a lot of the same themes as HEREDITARY, family, cults, happiness, the elderly.  This movie is much less outright scary, and much more creepy as unlike the other film this cult is in your face for most of the running time.  Unsurprisingly, things turn at a certain point, but there aren't really any jump scares.  Which is an accomplishment in itself.

Highly recommended for fans of the genre.  Something different is happening with it here, between HEREDITARY and now this.  Don't miss it.

 on: July 15, 2019, 09:56:42 AM 
Started by Ella Minnow Pea - Last post by Markalot
For me American Exceptionalism is the fact that many in the US chose to be here, which made us great.  This is American Exceptionalism as the reality, not as the phrase co-opted by whoever wants to claim they know why.  This 'exceptionalism' requires robust immigration to stay true, and also equates quite nicely with your spoiled view, because yes, we are spoiled.  That's my belief anyway, is it true?  /shrug 

So my presidential votes over the years are as follows.  I've listed this before but since I'm now a neocon maybe I need to repeat it.  It's one thing to have an ideology, it's quite another to only vote based on it. 

Bush I
Perot (charts!) -- with what I know now this would have been Bush I
Perot (don't ask) -- as above, probably Clinton but maybe Dole?  Really not sure, I was not a fan of Clinton
Bush II
Kerry (this one is interesting, it might be Bush II if I had a do-over but Kerry, while a bad candidate, was not that bad))
Obama (this would have easily been McCain if not for Palin)
Clinton (I still don't see the Clintons as very liberal)

Fingers crossed that my next vote will be for Biden because I can't imagine voting for any of the other dems ... maybe Harris, but probably not.  I honestly feel like the other dems running will tank the economy and set us back even further. 

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