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« Reply #30 on: October 18, 2006, 06:35:19 PM »

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First track to go: Snooker Loopy.

Agreed. Song of the morning? What the fuck is wrong with your hearing, Bu'uh? In this particular case, I think your musical tastebuds need dousing in napalm.

On reading your choices so far, the only one I'd miss would be 9-9, but you've already answered that one. However, I'm not the expert, because all my music is hard-copy. Yes, I'm one of those "don't download, because.....um" wankers. Pinko bastard, I know.

Great idea for a thread, though. I'm looking forward to trawling through the list!
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« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2006, 12:43:40 AM »

I just put all my crap in Oboe Music Locker.  

That way I can enjoy less-than-CD quality 192 kbps streams of already less-than-CD quality .mp3's wherever I have internet access.  And if I ever lose my music, it would only take me a mere 260 hours of downloading to restore it to my hard drive.  IF mp3tunes.com doesn't go bankrupt, or decides to TOS me based on some quasi-legal bootlegs I have stored, or they don't get shut down themselves for the thousands of legally shaky DL's available on their sideload service, or don't just decide to screw me over via some random reason or technical glitch.  All this for just $40 a year!!!

It really is a great concept, though.  If you have Tivo 2, you can stream music through your tv/stereo via a free interface, so there's no need to buy an iPod or home stereo streaming device.  You also have full access to your collection at work.  When I was at a conference last week, I ran the service through my laptop.  You can also stream through a Nokia 770.  

The sideload feature is also pretty cool.  If you come across a free song on the web, you can "sideload" it directly to your Music Locker.  The sideload.com site then makes a note of that link, which means that other users can search sideload for songs and similarly DL them to their lockers.  The only problem is the sideload search and browse capability sucks, and half the songs are from music blogs of questionable legality.  There's no one at mp3tunes.com making sure it's legit.

I just wish someone I trusted a bit more (Bill Nguyen, are you listening?) would get into this.  Instead of mailing CD's, the central server that tracks the songs in my locker could just delete my album "token" and assign it to someone else for nominal fee, while making sure the artist gets their share.
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« Reply #32 on: October 19, 2006, 12:50:23 AM »

Wait, so are Oboe Music Locker and mp3tunes.com the same thing?
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« Reply #33 on: October 19, 2006, 02:37:12 AM »

Yeah.  The product is called "Obie Music Locker" and the website is mp3tunes.com.

It's owned by the same guy who used to own mp3.com, and got sued (and lost) for a similar concept with my.mp3.com.  What my.mp3.com was essentially store CD's in a giant database.  If you had a legit copy of the CD you could put the CD in your drive and beam data from that CD to their database and then you'd get access to that CD online in your music locker.

From a certain standpoint, it made sense.  The user got access to their CD online, but ONLY if they owned it.  Problem was (and I agree with this) that everytime someone accessed their library they were essentially using mp3.com's copy.  So in essence they bought one copy of the CD and then charged people to listen to their copy-- yes, the people had to own it first but still they didn't have license to broadcast it.  They only had rights for only personal use and backup just like I do.

The trick to this new version is that the each file is separately saved and stored instead of coming from a central database.  The music I stream from Music Locker is mine, therefore if it's illegal it's my responsibility.  And unlike say, Youtube, only I can access my own files.  They're simply providing a place for me to store and access my files, just like google or any ISP does when they give you space on their server.

Eventually, I think someone will get the labels' permission to do what my.mp3.com tried to do in the first place.  It's much more efficient to store just one copy instead of 5,000 and users are going to start to demand this type of portability.  The labels will just want to take their chunk out of the arrangement and make sure their rights are protected.

It could work out for both sides, kind of like how iTunes is a compromise. Only it will take someone with clout and who is trustworthy to get the buy-in from all sides.
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« Reply #34 on: October 19, 2006, 02:49:02 AM »

Someone like Bill Nyugen, right? ;)

I don't know that he has the clout, yet, but he seems to be working on it.
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« Reply #35 on: October 19, 2006, 07:45:29 AM »

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Just get rid of everything REM--anything worthwhile you probably own the actual CD of, and you're not going to listen to them (do people still listen to REM?) anyway, so it's not a big deal to get out the CD when you're drunk and think it's 1989 again.


This made me laugh and think at the same time.  It was like an episode of Who's the Boss?.

I will probably be more likely to cut the REM songs now because of your witty off the cuff remark.  Honestly, I bet about 1/20th of the library is REM stuff, most of which I am not in love with, but just have because they're my favorite.  Well, next to Radiohead.
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« Reply #36 on: October 19, 2006, 08:30:02 AM »

Wow, that's a lot of REM.  Seriously, I didn't know that they had that much stuff out there.
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« Reply #37 on: October 19, 2006, 08:47:28 AM »

36-50:
 
Airbag – Radiohead
Airbag (cover) – RJD2
Alan is a Cowboy Killer – McLusky
Alanson, Crooked River – Sufjan Stevens
Alarm Call – Bjork
All Alone – Gorillaz
All for Swinging You Around – New Pornographers
All Good Naysayers, Speak Up!.... – Sufjan Stevens
All Hands Against His Own – Black Keys
All Hands and the Cook – Walkmen
All Hands on the Bad One (Live) – Sleater-Kinney
All I Need – Air
All is a Game – Nada Surf
All is Full of Love – Bjork
All Mine – Portishead

The RJD2 version of Airbag is not that bad, but if I want to listen to it, I’ll probably just stick with the original.

Alanson is gone, it’s a 1:18 piano solo which is fairly drab.  The other SS song doesn’t do much for me either.  I probably never should’ve bothered downloading that album, to be honest…. The Michigan one, I mean.

The Walkmen song is borderline.  It starts off interestingly enough, but then the vocals start out barking even louder and more incoherently than normal for them.  It ends up hopefully enough, but do I ever want to hear this song again?  Not really.  

I like the SK song… it actually starts to make me wonder why I’ve never attempted to listen to a full album of theirs.  I don’t know.  But I do know that this version of it sounds like it was recorded underwater, through a tunnel.  Perhaps it’s an audience recorded bootleg from an actual concert.  Perhaps it just didn’t rip properly from its original source.  Either way, it sounds crap, and it’s gone.

I love Bjork… or rather, this album of hers, but this particular song is too… drowsy to do anything for me as a single.
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« Reply #38 on: October 19, 2006, 08:47:45 AM »

We're an REM family. REM was one of the things that brought Butter and I together. At least for me REM= lots of memories stirred up about the beginning of our relationship.
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« Reply #39 on: October 19, 2006, 08:58:07 AM »

The reason I have so much REM at work is because long ago we bought all of the pre-Out of Time REM albums.  About 5-6 of them.  I listened to Murmur a few times, and the others maybe once.  Never really had time to listen to them.  So one day at work, I decided I'd just get all these songs onto the computer and listen to them here, since I actually have time for music at work.

Well, now I have 100+ REM songs on here, I'm fairly certain.  Most of which are from that early period that I never listened to much before.  I have a few selected tracks from later, and their latest album "Around the Sun" as well.
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« Reply #40 on: October 19, 2006, 09:31:41 AM »

51-60:
 
All Neon Like – Bjork
All Sewn Up – Longwave
All Systems Red – Calexico
All the Money or the Simple Life Honey – Dandy Warhols
All the Pretty Girls Go to the City – Spoon
All the Right Friends – REM
All the Way – Ladytron
All Things – Splashdown
All We Have is Now – The Flaming Lips
All White - …Trail of Dead

The Calexico song teetered on the edge of detonation, but about the 2:30 mark that song starts to kick ass.  So it stays.

I sorta like The Dandy Warhols song… or at least I feel like I should like it.  But my toe doesn’t tap or anything.

The Spoon song sounds like the piano is being played by someone from a 6th grade recital.  But I caught myself singing along (to myself) which is a good sign.

Early REM = cut.  Blame it on slow-dog.

I fully expected to dump the Splashdown song, but I enjoyed it.  So many of these songs I am surprised to find that I’ve never really LISTENED to before.  I find that I’m finding more reasons to keep songs than I am to delete them.  Which will probably keep me from reaching 40%.
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« Reply #41 on: October 19, 2006, 09:35:38 AM »

Funny, because, to me, the pre-Out of Time stuff is the stuff worth listening to.

I don't even have anything from that album forward on my computer.
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« Reply #42 on: October 19, 2006, 09:39:42 AM »

No Automatic for the People?  No Monster?  No New Adventures in Hi-Fi?  None?
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« Reply #43 on: October 19, 2006, 09:47:02 AM »

Nope. Nope. Nope.

Monster is where for my money, to borrow a tired, played-out phrase, R.E.M. jumped the shark.

Automatic has some decent stuff, but also some dross. Too much dross for me to rip the CD.

Eh, much like with you, I haven't really listened to all that much R.E.M. on my computer lately. But I might want to at some point, so I should be prepared.
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« Reply #44 on: October 19, 2006, 09:52:15 AM »

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All the Money or the Simple Life Honey – Dandy Warhols

I sorta like The Dandy Warhols song… or at least I feel like I should like it.  But my toe doesn’t tap or anything.


Really? My toe does tap do it. I don't think I would have cut it. Unless I was feeling spiteful towards Courtney Taylor for being a self-absorbed ass.

Yeah, you're not going to make it to 40%, unless you start cutting them ten at a time or something.
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