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[cyclone]

Here's the cast of the new season, which starts in a little under a month.

As rumored, ex-San Francisco Giant Jeff Kent is on the show.

Of the rest, nothing seems too atypical of a standard Survivor cast.  A few middle-aged women to set off the surplus of young attractive model-types.  Maybe Roxy, the seemingly intelligent seminary student, can finally provide a character that isn't the usual showy, fundamentalist Christian.

Of the guys, Zane looks like perhaps the most atypical person they have cast.  Seems like almost a surefire very early boot.  Curious to see how Malcolm plays out, seems like he could be a decent character.

(BTW, there is a video preview with the cast on the site as well, which is what I'm basing these assumptions on)

And if anyone is interested in who the three "mystery" returning players are, I named them earlier in the thread.

[Poncho]

Not a word on the infamous Blair Warner?  SHAME ON YOU CYCLONE!

[cyclone]

Not a word on the infamous Blair Warner?  SHAME ON YOU CYCLONE!

I did mean to mention her in my post for those interested, but I must admit that I had never heard of "The Facts of Life" sitcom before.

[euro60]

So what is the starting date of the new Survivor season?

[cyclone]

So what is the starting date of the new Survivor season?

September 19th, 90-minute premiere.

[euro60]

So what is the starting date of the new Survivor season?

September 19th, 90-minute premiere.

Dang it, I have a work commitment that evening. Guess I'll catch it on the CBS website one of the next couple of days

[Kwyjibo]

Not a word on the infamous Blair Warner?  SHAME ON YOU CYCLONE!

I did mean to mention her in my post for those interested, but I must admit that I had never heard of "The Facts of Life" sitcom before.

I wonder if they'll let her have a bottle of hot sauce?

[cyclone]

Malcolm says the player he will be the most like is Brian Heidik(!)

Go Malcolm.  Long live the Ice Man ...

[cyclone]

Well, the editing had me fooled during the premiere.  Perhaps that could be a good omen for the season.  I was pretty confident that Swan was going home (I'm going to call him by his last name as to not confuse casual watchers of the "other" Russell).  Not that I thought Zane's strategy was potent, it was rather horrific, but I thought Swan blew it with his pseudo-leadership.  I didn't think it was as bad as the tribe was making it out to be when they first got to camp (that's the time when you want to utilize a returning player's experience), but his handling of the tribe at the challenge seemed as bad as it was made out to be.  In fact, Swan was probably saved by Zane's stupidity.  A helpful hint might be to never include telling your tribe to vote you out as a part of your strategy.

It was interesting that Penner's tribe seemed to have a unanimous attitude of getting rid of him.  I predicted that he would have the hardest time pulling a tribe together out of the three of them, but it marks the first time that a tribe would be bent on booting a returning player right off the bat.  Which would be my view as well.  Kind of hate to see it happen to Penner though, considering we've had casts that have made the likes of Coach look like strategic geniuses.  And that girl really recognized Jeff Kent because "her boyfriend was into baseball?"  Really?  I'm a huge baseball fan and I'm not even confident that I would immediately identify Kent's face if I passed him in a crowd.

The yellow alliance with Skupin seems ... annoying.  I appreciate the dark-haired girl playing and playing hard immediately, but she's obviously going to be really annoying.  The young alpha male type in that alliance seems so boring, like a random model they grabbed from LA (which is probably what happened).  I'll withhold judgement until a few episodes in though. 

Still really liking Malcolm, also now like Denise.

[euro60]

I watched it on the CBS website last night. What was 90 min. on TV now becomes 70 min. with few commercials. 20 minutes of my life preserved for other useless things! Woohoo!

I enjoyed the opening episode more than I expected. I generally second your comments, Cyclone. Zane was an utter idiot, reason why Russell is still around.

I like having 3 tribes. I don't recall if it's been done before, but rather than going straight into a full one-tribe merger, I'd reshuffle things in about 3-4 weeks and make up 2 new tribes, let that cook for another 4-5 weeks and then go into the full one-tribe merger.

[cyclone]

You know, upon further evaluation, Zane might jump right atop the list of very worst Survivor contestants ever.

Here was Zane's game: The blue tribe immediately soured against Russell Swan as soon as they got to the beach and he took his leadership role.  Zane then made alliances with every single person on the tribe, including making a deal with Russell and Malcolm last where he revealed to them that he had already made an alliance with everyone.  At the challenge (where Swan further alienated himself against the tribe), Zane bombed and later told the tribe to vote him out due to his poor performance.  On top of that, he then told everyone that he thought that Swan had found the HII, meaning that Swan could then use the idol to take out anyone he wanted to if the rest of the votes were going toward him, or to take it a step further, if they would then decide to split the votes in fear of the idol, the other votes would obviously be for "vote me out" Zane.

That's about as disastrous as it gets, even for a first boot.  Especially considering that he hammed it up as being a genius, game-changing strategy in his confessions.

[trixi]

They did do a 3 tribe set up for Survivor: All-Stars.  Looking forward to learning more about some of the other contestants plans.  Always takes me a few episodes to get a real handle on everyone.

[Poncho]

There have even been 4 tribes before.


I enjoyed the first ep.  I didn't buy into the Swan song... but it made me wonder.  I really wonder if Skupin's comment about yellow being the most balanced is foreshadowing?

[cyclone]

One word for Roxy: jealousy.

Really, making that big of a deal out of a little cuddling under the shelter on a cold night?  Kind of screams out jealousy rather than really being deathly afraid of a "power couple" on day 3 or whatever it was.  And for someone who claimed to have wanted to change how the zany fundamentalist Christians of old were portrayed on the show, that sure was some immature, judgmental showing from her.

Surely I wasn't the only one who wondered the following about Penner finding the HII: isn't the tribe going to notice that there is now a hole in the top of the rice bin rather than the old handle?  The only thing I can think of is that it was purposely designed by producers to create drama.  Then again, considering HIIs are usually in necklace form, is anyone going to realize that a little circular block was the HII?  At any rate it will obviously be suspicious that it's suddenly missing.  I don't know, the whole thing seems really weird to me.  I was glad Penner found it though.

My only complaint is that two episodes in, we still have people will 0 confessions.  You may not know this, but there is a person on the red tribe named Carter. 

[euro60]

Well they had me fooled good last night. In particular at TC, with Probst pounding on Angie's utterly dumb response to his question "what's the one thing missing at camp for this tribe" (Angie: "cookies"), I thought for sure that Angie was a goner.

Cyclone, as to anyone noticing that the handle is gone from the rice bin, I doubt it. Yea, that's how low I rate the skills of that tribe (or the other tribes, for that matter). It really doesn't seem like people are in general on top of their game all that much. It's giving the veterans a huge advantage, to be honest.