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Paco

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Re: Random Political Musings
« Reply #1815 on: March 18, 2020, 07:32:30 PM »

Too bad this site doesn't have a "like" button. No, wait, that's not right. I meant a "sad" button.
The response from the White House has been, to say the least, disappointing but not surprising.
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euro60

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Re: Random Political Musings
« Reply #1816 on: March 19, 2020, 12:04:27 PM »

You mean like this?
https://twitter.com/TrumpFrederick/status/1240354833208684544?s=20


This is freaking awesome! Somebody PLEASE make a TV commercial of this and run it 24/7.
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Dan

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Re: Random Political Musings
« Reply #1817 on: March 19, 2020, 03:32:33 PM »

Somehow, they don't even have the part where Trump called it a HOAX from the Democrats.
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euro60

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Re: Random Political Musings
« Reply #1818 on: April 02, 2020, 12:01:34 PM »

Love, love, love this ad:

https://adage.com/article/campaign-trail/anti-trump-ad-trump-basically-made-priorities-usa-pac-gets-grim-update/2247011

This should be "required viewing" on all TV stations across the country  8)
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Markalot

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Re: Random Political Musings
« Reply #1819 on: April 03, 2020, 02:57:41 PM »

It seems to me the some republican governors might soon come to realize they've killed off many of their voters.

An exaggeration to be sure, but when science is not involved the results are going to be horrific.   I suspect the southern states might get some benefit from the rapidly warming weather, we'll have to see.   

If social distancing and the economic shutdown minimizes the deaths be prepared for the majority on the right saying: See, it wasn't so bad, we didn't have to kill the economy for this.  Media HYPE.

That's the way it works, don't fool yourself into thinking otherwise.  Stupid people are incapable of change, only ignorance can be fixed. 
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Zafer Kaya

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Re: Random Political Musings
« Reply #1820 on: April 05, 2020, 02:04:03 PM »

I think the economy will change people's minds in a hurry.  Even Trump supporters. 

Remember-- they're supposed to win.  The coronavirus is supposed to hit mostly big cities and liberal areas that are vulnerable for having too many weird people and especially foreigners living to close together.  It's God's vengeance or QAnon's masterplan that these areas which have already been declared enemies get thinned out.  These people have been subconsciously expecting or outright prepping for a doomsday event for years.

But when the coronavirus peak is over, the big cities will somewhat be able to pick up where they left off.  The small areas and non-college educated workers won't.  The same thing will happen that happened in 2008.  Businesses will realize they can do this better with machines, and machines are pandemic-proof.

We are more reliant on China and Russua than ever, and both countries are pretty much owning Trump. So the fuse of 50's small town America seems like even more of a pipedream

Although none of this is to say that the right wing will return to sanity.  Of course they won't.  They will find a new idiot to follow and a new conspiracy, possibly someone even more dangerous than Trump because that person will really believe it. I just don't think Trump is as much in control of the right as people think.  He's more the beneficiary of Fox news and Breitbart and churches, etc. backing him.  Like Tucker Carlson has way more influence than Trump does. 

euro60

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Re: Random Political Musings
« Reply #1821 on: April 07, 2020, 11:51:02 AM »

Boris Johnson was, Trump-like, dismissive of the coronavirus, and one of the last in Europe to issue a stay-at-home order. Now he is in ICU desperately fighting for his life.

I don't mean to insinuate that "he got what he deserved". Nobody deserves this. But it does show how incredibly reckless he was, ignoring the facts and science at his own peril for far too long, not to mention the peril of 66 million Brits that he is supposed to lead (and protect).
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Butter

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Re: Random Political Musings
« Reply #1822 on: April 08, 2020, 07:33:37 AM »

I guess BoJo is not part of the "herd".
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Zafer Kaya

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Re: Random Political Musings
« Reply #1823 on: April 21, 2020, 12:12:43 AM »

So it seems Trump finally played his big card today.  You knew it was coming before November, with or without coronavirus. 

So now we find out just how stupid Anericans really are.  We should reopen coronavirus because it's a huge hoax, but somehow stopping immigration is necessary.  Basically, it's "White people can't possibly get get hurt, unless it's by colored people."

Boris Johnson deserved coronavirus.  Trump does, too.  He could have prevented a lot of this, why should he be spared?

As a matter of fact, we all pretty much deserve it.  I mean, I'm not rooting for it and it doesn't make me happy.  But when we as a nation elect someone as stupid as Trump and continue to back him, when we have so many fools not social distancing or listening to science you can't say that as a society we didn't bring this on ourselves.  We thought and still apparently do think we're too great for anything bad to happen to us.  We're supposed to be the richest and smartest country in the world.  Clearly that is not the case.

I mean, even to the extent we don't like Trrump we apparently still favor the two worst of all the Democrat candidates in Biden and Sanders.  I am not a huge Warren fan, but she would be so awesome right now compared to these yahoos.  Can't wait for all the nevertrumpers to blame the Dems for nominating weak candidates as if they weren't the ones backing Biden. 

We're fucked.  We can't keep the economy closed until July because it is not strong enough and has been propped up for years.  And we're too spolied and spineless to endure that long without people falling apart.  The only way through is to get have adequate testing in place and some sort of reasonable phase in so we can quarantine those who test positive.  But nope, we're just going to do nothing about medical stuff, just reopen the country stupidlty, hand out more cash to corporations, and blame it all on colored people.

twentyshots

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Re: Random Political Musings
« Reply #1824 on: April 22, 2020, 01:31:43 AM »

i had the thought the other day....what if i really DID move to canada? what IF i lived in a place where i didn't have to be reminded every 45 minutes how bad it sucks? because do you really think we are going to have anything resembling a normal, well-adjusted country ever again? it's hard to imagine. yeah, canada is kind of boring and that sounds pretty good. and just as i completed that thought they had the deadliest episode of gun violence in their history.

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Zafer Kaya

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Re: Random Political Musings
« Reply #1825 on: April 25, 2020, 11:02:03 PM »

Interesting thing about coronavirus is Trump seems to have taken a big bump amongst non-/sketchy voters while getting hammered amongvlikely voters.

So polls that target likely voters or registered voters that traditionally skew Republican even under Trump like Rasmussen are now where he does the worst.

This may be related to Slate's recent findings on what they call "doublehaters" who hated both Clinto and Trump but as a group went for Trump, and particularly were swayed in the last few weeks.  These people apparently favor Biden now by a decent margin.

I think of these people as the "outsiders."  They basically hate government and react negatively to anything they hear and don't follow things all that closely on account of they think it is BS.  BUT they do care enough to vote.  So it stands to reason they would more dislike the establishment and the person they hear most from.  And right now, that's Trump.  We are coming closer to elections so they are paying more attention and therefore hearing more about Trump.  And the fact that Trump was having press conferences every day and saying insane shit tgat contradicted himself so obviously makes it worse.  Like who knows if Russsia really interfered with the election unless you pay close attention to and believe the media.  But Trump saying to inject disinfectants or asking people to liberate states one day and tgriwingvKemp under the bus in the next day is something even a casual follower can catch.

At the same time, there is also likely a group that perhaps you could call "triple haters" or I think of them as "Blow up the system" types.  They hate everyone in politics but they also hate everyone involved in political, the media, the popular sentiment, everything.  So where the "double haters" vote erratically on who just happens to be pisssing them off slightly less at the time and us offended by their choices, the "triple hater" dies not even vote is offended by the mere act of voting and legitimizing the system.

I suspect these triple haters are a factor behind Trump's popularity among overall adults.  I further suspect that some if them WILL actually vote this time because the stakes are high enough they feel like they have to.  When the government is telling people they cannot go out and which businesses can open and huge amounts of people are out if work, it is a massive intrusion and one that finally impacts these people enough to vote. And they will likely vote for Trump because he hates everything, too even if he's still a dick in their eyes they do have that in common.

This group is sort of beyond any traditional politics.  It probably includes people who have as many weirdo far right views as far left.  Just nothing in the middle.  It's racist Socialists or new age hippies that don't believe in science or conspiracy theorists of all kind.

So between the establishment/suburban GOP and the "double haters" starting to flee from Trump but the "I hate everything crowd" mobilizing for Trump is it a wash?  Or dies Trump come out ahead or behind?

notoriouspbake

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Re: Random Political Musings
« Reply #1826 on: April 30, 2020, 08:04:00 PM »

gaslighting: republican strategy.
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euro60

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Re: Random Political Musings
« Reply #1827 on: May 07, 2020, 01:59:52 PM »

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Zafer Kaya

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Re: Random Political Musings
« Reply #1828 on: May 08, 2020, 12:45:29 PM »

Does anyone actually believe that Krystal Ball, Briahna Joy Gray, Sirota or any of these other Sanders surrogates actually gives a fuck about minorities or the poor?

If joining the KKK meant that Bernie would become President, they’d all be in hoods tomorrow.  Except for BJG, she wouldn’t do it unless there were money in it for her.  I will bet that we see her face on Fox within the next two months.




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