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The government is a goddamned mess: UK Edition
« on: June 09, 2017, 11:48:13 AM »

Okay, someone explain to me the crap that's been going on in the UK.  Tell it to me like I don't have a clue about British politics, which is true.  All I know is something about a referendum, May wanting a mandate, and a snap election.  I really don't know what any of those things mean.
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Re: The government is a goddamned mess: UK Edition
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2017, 02:33:11 PM »

2010, Labour in charge, but undermined by 1) Blair's shortsighted decision to lick GWB's arse and go to war in Iraq 2) newer PM Gordon Brown's ineffectiveness as a leader.

General election called. No overall majority. Labour lose like 100 seats and only way of retaining power is to have a coalition with the Liberal Democrats.

LibDems decide to do coalition agreement with the C***servatives with pompous tw@ David Camoron as PM and LibDem leader Nick Clegg as Deputy PM.

2015 Election gives Tories a majority, partly due to Camoron's promise to hold a referendum about the UK's membership in the EU.

Although not pressured to keep promise, Camoron decides to have referendum having the hubris to believe that voters will never opt out of the EU.

A campaign of misinformation and mixed messages (thanks Boris Johnson) results in referendum NOT going Camoron's way. The U.K. Is set to Brexit (Britain + Exit, clever eh?).

Camoron falls on sword, resigns leaving a legacy of fuck all.

Tories elect new leader. Teresa May. Clueless spawn of Thatcher.

May decides she wants a "mandate of the people" so they know she is her "own woman". Decides this only because Labour have apparently the least charismatic and least liked leader since Michael Foot. Jeremy Corbyn is cut of 'old socialistic cloth' and boy the Tories (and the right-wing press) hate him with a vengeance.

She has her own moment of hubris and holds a snap general election, despite the Tories _actually_ having a majority/mandate to govern until 2020.

Expectation was that she would win, improve the C***servative majority and give herself the power to do whatever she wanted to do to screw up the U.K. even more. Including looking after their wealthy overlords, undermining the NHS & social services and continuing to steal from the poor and treat most people like dirt. She even had the support of the right wing press, most of which treated Corbyn with disrespect and Labour policies as "old fashioned" and "out of touch with the people"

The people quite rightly decided this was bullshit and voted against the Tories instead of for them, resulting in (initially) a hung parliament. May decided rather than doing the decent thing and resigning, she and her party would instead form a thin coalition with Northern Ireland's DUP, a socially Conservative party who - amongst other things - hate gays, are anti-abortion and are actually against EU Membership meaning they are in direct opposition to everything that May stands for.

It's a DISGUSTING coalition. However, with a bit of luck it will set the Tories back decades, just as Drumph has set back the Republic*n*s.
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Re: The government is a goddamned mess: UK Edition
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2017, 03:29:24 PM »

From what I'm reading, such as in the Financial Times, it seems that yesterday's vote is the "revenge of the Remainers", that voter turnout among older voters (who voted the UK out) was lower than expected, while voter turnout among the younger voters (who massively wanted to stay in the EU) was higher than expected.

Teresa May is just like any other politician, left or right: she'll do anything to cling on to power. Heads off with them all!
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Re: The government is a goddamned mess: UK Edition
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2017, 03:55:00 PM »

Politically, Theresa May was way more incompetent than I would have expected.  And conversely, Corbyn turned out way more competent than I thought.
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