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Butter

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« on: June 02, 2005, 11:30:26 AM »

So, what's left for little old Peterborough United, the team I have taken in 7 years from lower league obscurity to England and UEFA Cup Champions?

How about Champions League success?  That is our main goal this year, as we become the team with the mark on us... the one everyone looks to take down.  We clung on to win the Premiership last year, with the fewest points to win the title since 06/07's Chelsea won with 78 also.

Re-visit last year's glory here, or stay with us now as I aim to see if sustainable success is possible at Peterborough United.
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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2005, 11:31:23 AM »

So, you're not bored of this game yet?
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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2005, 11:48:23 AM »

Keep your snippy comments out of my thread, Snippy.
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« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2005, 11:54:30 AM »

Team History
League finishes
2004/05: L1 - 11-19-16, 17th pl., 52 pts.
05/06: L1 - 27-10-9, 1st pl., 91 pts.
06/07: Championship - 17-15-14, 11th pl., 66 pts.
07/08: Championship - 24-14-8, 1st pl., 86 pts.
08/09: EPL - 11-7-20, 14th pl., 40 pts.
09/10: EPL - 19-13-6, 5th pl., 70 pts.
10/11: EPL - 24-6-8, 1st pl., 78 pts.

FA Cup
04/05: Sixth Round
05/06: Third Round
06/07: Fourth Round
07/08, 08/09, 09/10, 10/11: Third Round

Carling Cup
04/05, 05/06: First Round
06/07, 07/08: Second Round
08/09: Third Round
09/10: Second Round
10/11: Fourth Round

UEFA Cup
10/11: Champions

Average attendance
04/05: 6,829
05/06: 7,447
06/07: 12,315
07/08: 13,531
08/09: 14,601
09/10: 15,798
10/11: 16,003

Transfer spending
04/05: Paid - $90k
(L1)   Rec'd - $280k
05/06: Paid - $240k
(L1)   Rec'd - $150k
06/07: Paid - $14k
(CH)   Rec'd - $6k
07/08: Paid - $400k
(CH)   Rec'd - $1.7 million
08/09: Paid - $10M
(EPL)  Rec'd - $3M
09/10: Paid - $2.6M
(EPL)  Rec'd - $1.4M
10/11: Paid - $6.4M
(EPL)  Rec'd - $2.5M
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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2005, 01:03:18 PM »

Roster
Goalkeepers
Depth chart (Age, salary - signed through, value):
1. Libis Andres Arenas (24, $600k - 2014, $13.5M)
2. Lee Grant (28, $650k - 2012, $1.7M)
3. Michel Boumann (22, $56k - 2014, $1.8M)
4. Sindri Tor Hilmarsson (19, $36k - 2015, $3M)
5. Jon Masalin (23, $28k - 2013, $1.25M)
6. Marcus Eskilsson (23, $20k - 2013, $340k)

Arenas will continue to be our #1 keeper... he is currently showing up as being wanted by Sheffield Wednesday, but there's no way I'm selling him, especially not at this salary, and with the performance he's given us.  Lee Grant is a more than serviceable #2, actually starting for us some of last year, and allowing 12 goals in 13 starts.  The others are all reserves, with Boumann being a bit more senior ready than Hilmarsson... but both are very interesting prospects.  Masalin and Eskilsson are just dead weight.

Defense
Depth chart:
Left side:
1. Carlos Bocanegra (32, $1.5M - 2012, $1.95M)
2. Emil Jensen (31, $200k - 2012, $1.25M)
3. Ibrahim Kargbo (29, $650k - 2013, $4M)

Center:
1. Alex (28, $2M - 2014, $13M)
2. John Heitinga (27, $2.2M - 2014, $8.6M)
3. Marcos (23, $1.2M - 2014, $4.6M)
4. Karl Svensson (27, $600k - 2014, $3.4M)
5. Sarr (27, $500k - 2014, $3.4M)
6. Ibrahim Kargbo

Right side:
1. Cristian Zaccardo (29, $1.5M - 2014, $5.4M)
2. Sarr
3. Emil Jensen
4. Diego Gavilan (31, $1.35M - 2013, $4.6M)

Our weakest side is on the left.  We have no real help available to us on the reserve level, so that is our top need entering the summer signing period... signing a successor to Carlos Bocanegra at left back.  Heitinga was not a great performer last season, we'll be looking to him for additional help this year.  Marcos and Alex grew into their own, both playing very well last year.  Zaccardo has been very steady at right back, and will continue to be the starter there for the foreseeable future.  Jensen, Sarr, Svensson, and Kargbo are all more than capable backups, even though Kargbo is not a natural left back.

Midfield
Depth chart:
Defensive midfielder:
1. Javier Mascherano (26, $3.2M - 2013, $46M)
2. Ibrahim Kargbo

That's pretty much it at defensive midfield, with the departure of Fabio Rochemback, who never did very well with us.  Mascherano is currently valued at $46 million, which would be very hard to turn down if we were approached.  I would have to say that signing another quality defensive middie is right at the top of our shopping list along with left back.

Left wing:
1. Thando Mngomeni (28, $260k - 2012, $9.4M)
2. Wesley Sneijder (26, $3.2M - 2014, $29M)
3. Kenny Lunt (31, $800k - 2012, $3.6M)
4. Tobias Eriksson (25, $700k - 2013, $4.2M)
5. Carlos Eduardo (20, $32k - 2015, $4.6M)

None of these players, except the reserve Eduardo, are what you'd call true left wingers.  All can play in the middle of attack, and Mngomeni and Eriksson can even play forward.  Eriksson will likely move up to the big squad with the departure of Viana and Fernandes to provide depth, but Eduardo is a reserve.  Mngomeni is very dangerous on the left wing, but is not a crossing machine like Fabrice Fernandes was.  Mngomeni's game is more to get in the box and either shoot himself or try to create on the run... Sneijder is dangerous all over the park, with blazing pace and strong power on both feet.  Kenny Lunt is just a trusty old veteran.

Right wing:
1. Bosko Balaban (32, $2.6M - 2012, $2.2M)
2. Wesley Sneijder
3. Diego Gavilan
4. Kenny Lunt
5. Milciades Omar Bellomo (21, $700k - 2014, $8.6M)
6. Nicolai Graesdal (22, $60k - 2015, $2.8M)

Balaban is more a striker than a winger, much like Mngomeni.  But with all of these potential scorers coming at them, defenses don't know who to cover.  We were very effective in mid-season last year playing Balaban and Mngomeni on the wings, and sending them into the box to support Cole and Wallner.  Balaban is very similar to Mngomeni, as he often looks to score first and pass later.  Diego Gavilan scored 5 times last year, and seems to be as comfortable crossing the ball as he is shooting it.  Gavilan also notched the winning PK of our UEFA Cup Final victory... a well-respected, top notch player.  Bellomo was a reserve last year, who'll be promoted this year in the interest of depth.  He appears to have the skill to compete at the top level, but we shall see.  He is unhappy being at the reserves anyway, and has the potential to be a top notch player with a bit of work on his passing and aggression.  Graesdal is a reserve.

Attacking midfielder:
1. Gerard (32, $1.6M - 2012, $2.8M)
2. Wesley Sneijder
3. Lebohang Mokoena (24, $1.55M - 2014, $7M)
4. Bosko Balaban
5. Milciades Omar Bellomo
6. Tobias Eriksson

Gerard proved himself more than capable as the point man in our attack last year... he is a superb connector between our backline, wings, and strike force.  He didn't have flashy stats last year, but his average rating near 7.4 speaks for itself.  His age is a concern, as is his speed.  He also tends to miss open chances more than is desirable.  Mokoena is more of a striker, but can play here as well.  It probably would be a good idea to sign another dedicated AM-C just for depth purposes... as we have a lot of people committed to multiple positions, and losing one or more of them to injury could prove disasterous.

Striker
1. Carlton Cole (27, $2.4M - 2013, $19.5M)
2. Roman Wallner (29, $2.6M - 2013, $17M)
3. Lebohang Mokoena
4. Bosko Balaban
5. Thando Mngomeni

Cole's running mate has still not been determined... both Wallner and Mokoena are unhappy right now... Wallner because he thinks he's been demoted to a sub role mostly, Mokoena because he wants a new contract.  Mokoena proved more than adept at scoring, but Wallner possesses a power and finishing skill that Mokoena does not.... he is dangerous from 30 yards on in, whereas Mokoena's skill is finishing with time and space.  Both are effective, but Wallner complements Cole, whose skills are best suited to running past the back line.  Plus, Mokoena is one of the fastest men on the team, and is more effective as a striker off the bench, running past the tired defense.  Balaban is ol' dependable when he gets time up front... and Mngomeni is just on here in case of injury.  He won't be playing up front much if we can help it.  Our reserve striker corps is being depleted, but Elvis Hammond and Jim Johansen are still on the roster, over 3 years after they helped us win the Championship.
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« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2005, 12:45:10 PM »

West Bromwich Albion win the final promotion spot to the Premiership, and will join Sheffield Wednesday and Cardiff as Premiership newcomers this season.  WBA beat Everton in the playoff final, 1-0 in extra time to earn their way to the big payday.

As June hits, we bring in our only signing of the Bosman period... 19 year old Polish striker Michal Jablonski joins us from Wisla Plock.  Jablonski signs for $70k per year through 2015.  He is a very good looking prospect, and just needs a bit of technical polishing to become a quality player.  He will be with the reserves this year.

Most of our coaching staff gets a raise.

On June 15th, the European club rankings are announced.  It is noted that Peterborough move up 88 places to 62nd, moving faster than any other club.  The top 10 are:
1. Chelsea
2. Barcelona
3. Liverpool
4. Man U.
5. Arsenal
6. Juventus
7. Roma
8. Newcastle
9. Tottenham
10. Atletico Madrid

Atletico move into the top 10 on the strength of their semifinal appearance in the Champions League.  Their rivals, Real Madrid, sink to 33rd... they are struggling.

Elvis Hammond announces his impending retirement, which will occur on June 29th, 2012.  We'll have to fit him into a senior match this year.  Ruud van Nistelrooy, Didier Drogba, and Shay Given also announce their retirements at season's end.

Carlton Cole is named Fans Player of the Year for the 3rd straight season.

It is announced that we will play Manchester United in the Community Shield on August 7th.

The board are thrilled with my management of the club, but now are complaining about our "enormous" wage budget.  The board expects us to qualify for Europe, while the supporters expect us to win the League this year.  Finally, big expectations are catching up to me.

Harry Redknapp is hired as head man at Tottenham Hotspur, replacing Richard Money.

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Financial summary
The board announce plans to expand the stadium by 1,650 seats... it should be ready in time for the new season.  That will give us a capacity of 19,464.

We are awarded our $24.5 million in TV revenue, and are given a transfer budget of $25 million, about what we started last season with.  I am afraid to spend too much of it... but I guess I shouldn't be considering our standing.

Well, it looked for a while like we were going to be in bad financial shape come the fall, as our surplus dropped from $46 million to start last season, to $21 million late in the year.  But, when you win the title and the UEFA Cup, that tends to help cure what ails ya.  We start this season at a surplus of $65 million.  Our wage budget should be going up from the $35 million it currently sits at.

Our wage budget is adjusted after a while, and we are allowed to spend $60 million on our wage budget... Currently, we have about $41 million tied up in payroll.
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« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2005, 12:46:10 PM »

Arrivals

We make our first signing of the summer, penning 26 year old AM-C Niko Krancjar from Dinamo (Croatia) on a free transfer.  Krancjar is a Croatian international, and possesses some very good (but not great) skill.  He should fit in well as a backup to Gerard.  Krancjar signs for $500k per season through 2015... and he also nets a $100k signing bonus.

The $1 million transfer of Rafael Santos to Portuguese club Gil Vicente is cancelled, as the club cannot afford the fee. DAMN!

We make a signing for December, as 28 year old Swedish left back Fredrik Stenman signs with the Posh.  He will join us on Dec. 1st, and help provide some left sided depth.  He signs for very cheap, but I can't disclose the contract details right now.

We offer AM-RL Fabrice Fernandes a bare bones contract worth $600k for 2 more years... he had his finest season with us last year, and I wouldn't mind a little more of the same... despite his age, he is still a solid looking player.  He agrees to the deal, and Fernandes will hang around on the cheap for 2 more seasons.

We make another minor signing, bringing in 19 year old DM-RC Jesus (yes, it's just Jesus... pronounced the Spanish way) on a free transfer.  Jesus signs for $160k per season through 2015... he will be a reserve for the first year or two, but certainly looks to have the ability to move up to the big club fairly quickly.  We also sign 4 U-18 players, a DM, 2 AM's, and a forward who will be assigned to our U-18 squad.


Departures

GK Graham Stack is out of contract and leaves the club.  Stack spent 3 years with the Posh, starting 19 games and yielding 39 goals.  

Striker Elvis Hammond decides not to retire with us, leaving the club.  Elvis Hammond was signed to bolster the squad in an attempt to move out of League One in 2005.  And did he ever lead us to the promised land.  Elvis is 31 now, but was in his prime during our Championship League days.  Hammond scored 58 goals in 136 starts for the Posh, and netted 30 assists and 6 man of the match awards in his 6 year stay with us.  His average rating with us was just over 7.25.

We release DM-C Fabio Rochemback from his contract... he played in 46 games over 2 seasons for us, with 3 assists, and an average rating around 7.15.  He also managed 19 yellow cards and 3 reds during that span.

D-LC Luke Pritchard leaves the club.  Pritchard was one of our first ever purchases, joining us in our first year for $6k from Rotherham.  Pritchard was very young then, and is only 24 just now.  He appeared in 142 games over the last 7 years, averaging a 7.19... his best year was 2005/06, averaging a 7.30 during our League One title year.

28 year old center back Sashi Chalwe leaves the Posh.  He played in essentially only one season, disappointing with a 6.85 in 20 appearances in our first season in the top flight... he spent the last 2 seasons in the reserves, marking time on his contract.

GK Zlatan Azinovic leaves the club... he signed on a free transfer in my very first year, but never developed.  He appeared in 5 games in his first season with us, allowing 6 goals in those appearances.... he was a reserve the last 6 seasons.

Striker Franco Cataldo is also out of contract, and walks.  He came over from AC Milan in 2007, and played well the first year, netting 11 goals in 36 appearances during our Championship title season.  He scored 1 goal in 14 Premiership appearances the following year, and was relegated to the reserves the last 2 seasons.
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« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2005, 12:47:27 PM »

Bad news for us, as our lone solid defensive midfielder goes down for a month with a groin injury.  Javier Mascherano may well miss our season opener.

Here is our pre-season schedule... not a one of them at London Road:
@ Dundee (Scottish Premier League)
@ TOP (Dutch 2nd division)
@ Fortuna Sittard (Dutch 2nd division)
@ NEC Nijmegen (Dutch Eredivisie)
@ 1.FC Koln (German 2nd division)
v. Manchester United (Community Shield)

We have a ton of people on the senior roster right now, and the fans at Dundee will be disappointed that not a one of them is a planned starter for next season.

July 10, Friendly #1
@ Dundee


Lineup:
GK: Michel Boumann (reserve)
Def: Jensen, Sarr, Svensson, Mads Reginuissen (res.)
Mid: Jesus (status undetermined - competing for backup DM), David Black (U-18), Nicolai Graesdal (res.), Bellomo
Str: Danny Wilkinson (U-18), Michal Jablonski (res.)

Boumann rates an 8 in the scoreless first half before yielding to Hilmarsson... the rest of the lineup gets a 7 for the first 45... Jablonski and Wilkinson each had an open chance that they missed.  The game ends a riveting scoreless draw, as we manage 1 shot on target the entire match.  Nee-ha.  This game told me dick.

Draw, 0-0
A: 11,824


July 13, Friendly #2
@ TOP


Lineup:
GK: Grant
Def: Kargbo, Marcos, Alex, Zaccardo
Mid: Jesus, Fernandes, Sneijder, Kranjcar
Str: Wallner, Cole

Carlton Cole scores a patented stormer of a goal in the 31st, by running straight through 2 defenders and slotting it home.   A TOP midfielder gets sent off just before halftime for elbowing Zaccardo in the face.  Fernandes and Cole with 8's in the first half... we pull the starters around the 55th minute.  In the 57th, Mngomeni with a good pass to the middle for Bellomo... Bellomo with a nice move around the keeper, and he powers it home.  Bellomo might well be a good one for us.  Bellomo nearly scores again 2 minutes later off a pass from Balaban, but just misses the far post.  Youngster Steve Miller with a good pass to Balaban in the 72nd, and he finishes far post to make it 3-0.  Gerard and Balaban pick up 8's in the 2nd half.

Win, 0-3
A: 4,616


We get Lebohang Mokoena to sign a new 3 year contract worth $2.6 million per season... up from the previous $1.55M he was making.  He is thrilled to sign it, as well.  He will hopefully happily stay with us through 2014.

July 15, Friendly #3
@ Fortuna Sittard


Lineup:
GK: Marcus Eskilsson (reserve)
Def: Jensen, Marcos, Svensson, Kargbo
Mid: Arzo, Craig Murphy (U-18), Graesdal, Bellomo
Str: Jablonski, Vagner

Fortuna Sittard largely dominate the first half of play.  Bellomo looks dangerous early on in attack, but he gets a yellow and seems more subdued the rest of the half.  Jablonski and Vagner are largely non-factors up front in the first 45.  Then, in the 2nd half, Jablonski with a fine individual move around a defender, then he strikes it into the top right corner for our first goal.  The subs come on shortly thereafter, and in the 83rd, Kranjcar slides a ball to Mokoena, and he finishes from 8 yards.  Mokoena strikes again off a pass from Kranjcar in the 85th to finish the scoring.  And in the 87th, our 2nd straight opponent has a man sent off... in a friendly!  He got a card for the foul, then an immediate yellow for dissention.  Michal Jablonski wins MoM, and there are several 8's to go around.

Win, 0-3
A: 12,447


Thando Mngomeni gets a huge pay increase... from $260k per year to $1.8 million per year through 2013 as we continue to whittle away at those disgruntled by their pay rate.

July 18, Friendly #4 - Televised
@ NEC Nijmegen


Arenas is still away playing for Colombia in the Copa America.
Lineup:
GK: Grant
Def: Jensen, Alex, Marcos, Sarr
Mid: Jesus, Fernandes, Sneijder, Kranjcar
Str: Wallner, Cole

We dominate the ball and the chances in the first half, but can't get one past the NEC keeper, who is playing very well.  The 2nd half is pretty boring, as we get far fewer chances, but Wallner to Cole on a long ball, and Cole scores ahead of the defense again in the 87th minute to give us the victory.  We let nearly everyone play the full 90 in this one.  They'll now get the next game off, and their next action will be in the Community Shield.  Alex and Wallner pick up 9's, while Cole and Grant get 8's.

Win, 0-1
A: 12,379


That marks a clean sweep on our tour of Holland.

I ask the physios about Javier Mascherano, and they all suggest surgery for his groin injury.... I am reluctant to do that, because he could be out up to 6 months, and we have no defensive midfield backups anywhere near the same quality.  

Former Posh keeper Graham Stack signs with Blackburn Rovers.

We take in 30 year old AM/F-LC Diomansy Kamara, formerly of Portsmouth, on a 2 week trial.

We will play Roma in the European Super Cup on August 26th... the match will be at Stade Louis II in Monaco.

Our stadium expansion is completed... and I check on the confidence screen and see that the board is down to "very pleased" with me, as are the fans... and the fans are upset at my sale of Hugo Viana.  

I also note that my reputation, as well as the club's, has become "continental".  

At the risk of pissing off the board, I ask for another stadium expansion.  They tell me that plans are "afoot" to expand the stadium... which would hopefully put us over the 20,000 capacity mark.

Carlos Bocanegra finally returns from treatment for his late season injury from the last campaign... and we'll be putting him straight back into the lineup.  Heitinga also rebounds from his nagging injury, and Zaccardo comes back quickly from a sprained wrist to give us our full 1st team defense back on healthy terms.

July 29, Friendly #5 - Televised
@ 1.FC Koln


The aim is to start and play the 2nd string the entire match.  And we'll throw Kamara out there to see how he does in attack.  I don't think I want to blow $3 million on him, though.
Lineup:
GK: Arenas
Def: Jensen, Svensson, Marcos, Sarr
Mid: Kargbo, Fernandes, Bellomo, Kamara
Str: Jablonski, Vagner

There is a lot of end-to-end action in this one, but it stays scoreless at the break, mostly thanks to Arenas... sadly, he can't get to a loose ball fast enough in the 56th, and we yield our first goal of the preseason on a strike by Sven Wolf.  We fail to put much pressure on Koln in the final half hour, and we lose 1-0.  Fernandes with a 6, and everyone else gets a 7.  Kamara was less than impressive.

Loss, 1-0
A: 17,816


The board gives me another $10M in transfer funds, setting our transfer budget at a whopping $37.5 million now.  I go out looking for defensive midfielders immediately.

English Premier League Title Odds
Manchester United - 2:1
Chelsea, Arsenal - 3:1
Peterborough United - 6:1
Liverpool - 12:1
Newcastle - 20:1

As far as your team is concerned, the bookmakers believe that you definitely have the quality to mount a serious title challenge and that no matter what happens you will be there or thereabouts come the end of the season.


Arsenal approach us about Wesley Sneijder.  I tell them they can give us $20 million and the rights to their top defensive midfielder, Vincent Kompany.  

Next up, the traditional season opener: The Community Shield.
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« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2005, 01:52:58 PM »

That's a lot of typing.  I don't think I understood 3/4 of it.  
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« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2005, 01:58:55 PM »

If you really want to understand it, you should start with Season 1... I started out explaining stuff a lot better back then.  If you still have questions about what the eff is going on, just ask me... I love talking about soccer and video games... it's like a dream come true!

If you don't really care, than you can screw off.   ;)
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« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2005, 02:00:16 PM »

Yeah, Vincent Kompany's definitely somebody you want on your team.
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« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2005, 02:00:38 PM »

Soccer and vid...........   snore



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« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2005, 02:04:31 PM »

Quote from: "Butter"
If you really want to understand it, you should start with Season 1... ... I love talking about soccer and video games... it's like a dream come true!

If you don't really care, than you can screw off.   ;)

Well, I do really want to understand it.  but I don't really want to read it all.  And I know "some" about soccer, but by no means your level.  So I guess I might just pop in every now and then and lurk more than anything.
I think I remember actually reading a little bit of the first season, and didn't understand most of that, either.  Oh well...

I won't rain on your parade.  Carry on.
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« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2005, 02:09:44 PM »

Quote from: "mistergugi"
And I know "some" about soccer, but by no means your level.  So I guess I might just pop in every now and then and lurk more than anything.
I think I remember actually reading a little bit of the first season, and didn't understand most of that, either.  Oh well...

I won't rain on your parade.  Carry on.


Just PM me then.  Ask any and all questions you like.  I knew slightly above zero about English soccer when I started playing the earlier version of this game in 2001.

Now, I would consider myself as having a medium amount of soccer knowledge.  I can't top CR or Jonathan, but I do alright.  But I don't know all the little nicknames for people, or teams like they do, nor do I know the ins and outs of certain aspects of the sport.  But I keep trying.

And somehow I'm still married.
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Butter

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« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2005, 02:11:16 PM »

And, to emphasize, I kinda like it when people comment or ask questions... it makes me feel I'm not writing for an audience of one (or two).
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